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Ideally, by what age would you like to be married?

Or, another way of putting it, at what age would you start t...
Fragrant narrow-minded space
  02/25/05
1000.
filthy orange therapy
  02/25/05
Never. Ever.
sticky senate
  02/25/05
when was the last time you kissed a guy?
razzle clear quadroon trust fund
  02/25/05
Around Halloween, I guess.
sticky senate
  02/25/05
Why?
sticky senate
  02/25/05
are you saying you don't want to get married or just that it...
Cracking organic girlfriend national
  02/25/05
I don't want to get married. Even if I found "the rig...
sticky senate
  02/25/05
yeah. I mean part of me still want to get married, but part...
Cracking organic girlfriend national
  02/25/05
What happened? You guys went out and she pulled away?
sticky senate
  02/25/05
well, kind of. We were dating and she basically told me tha...
Cracking organic girlfriend national
  02/25/05
Well, it's good that you cut the ties instead of playing alo...
sticky senate
  02/25/05
...
Cracking organic girlfriend national
  02/25/05
F edit that
Titillating Slimy University Mexican
  02/25/05
Date: February 25th, 2005 5:43 PM Author: Luke_Schenscher_h...
provocative home
  11/11/05
Date: February 25th, 2005 5:15 PM Author: Luke_Schenscher_h...
provocative home
  11/11/05
Please don't give up b/c of one crappy chick.
Swashbuckling brunch
  11/11/05
I'd feel weird if I hit 30 and was still single. I think get...
House-broken frozen lodge turdskin
  02/25/05
58, to an 18 year old.
lavender halford police squad
  02/25/05
A 30 year old will look good when you're 58.
heady autistic affirmative action
  02/25/05
Probably around 34-35. Since I'd like to have kids, at that...
Chrome insanely creepy degenerate
  02/25/05
Late 30's
Sepia kitchen
  02/25/05
26-28. Currently 23.
Seedy passionate stag film
  02/25/05
30-32 Currently 23
Diverse cruel-hearted house windowlicker
  02/25/05
35
odious institution pisswyrm
  02/25/05
Get on AIM, pls. If you're not too busy.
provocative home
  02/25/05
Between 28-32... somewhere in there.
bright tripping ticket booth
  02/25/05
Mid-30's. My current bf is all gung-ho about getting married...
angry base
  02/25/05
Is mid 30's when you'd like to get married or when you'd sta...
Chrome insanely creepy degenerate
  02/25/05
I'm 29. 35ish would answer both your questions.
angry base
  02/25/05
I'd like to get married between 25 and 30. edit: I'm 23
Cracking organic girlfriend national
  02/25/05
AGe does not matter...she just has to be prestigous enough t...
plum indecent main people
  02/25/05
Probably sooner than later - my gf of 5+ years is starting t...
Exhilarant Dog Poop Gunner
  02/25/05
Let me guess - she puts up with it for a while, then get's m...
lavender halford police squad
  02/25/05
Not until I fall in love. 60 would be nice.
judgmental old irish cottage useless brakes
  02/25/05
27 or so. Start making little Skeletors areound 30.
bistre orchestra pit rigpig
  02/25/05
37.
lascivious offensive nursing home wrinkle
  02/25/05
I'd like to be married by my mid-thirties, obviously subject...
Hilarious shrine
  02/25/05
by 30 bc i want kids before 30 and need to be married before...
Emerald infuriating yarmulke garrison
  02/25/05
mid-thirties. looks like i'll be getting married in my earl...
exciting mischievous shitlib
  02/25/05
30.
provocative home
  02/25/05
25-27. 21.
sadistic spot
  02/25/05
right before i get noticeably balding. If i wait till afterw...
french sneaky criminal
  02/25/05
Depends. If it's to my ex-boyfriend (we broke up only becau...
dun resort messiness
  02/25/05
You're only 24? How old were you when you started LS?
floppy citrine filthpig
  02/25/05
21
dun resort messiness
  02/25/05
Im 22-- will be married before I'm 23.
iridescent rough-skinned roommate abode
  02/25/05
Are you engaged? Or just wishful thinking?
dun resort messiness
  02/25/05
Never
Puce startling foreskin potus
  02/25/05
Ditto. Marry me?
claret bbw boiling water
  02/25/05
LOL we're perfect for each other
Puce startling foreskin potus
  02/25/05
28
Thriller Cruise Ship Incel
  02/25/05
I'd never feel odd about not getting married, and I don't kn...
Balding Irradiated Den
  02/25/05
I want to find a nice hot Heeb to make love to by the time I...
aromatic international law enforcement agency
  02/25/05
Never
Racy Sandwich Forum
  02/25/05
30 or thereabouts.
Sable Property
  02/25/05
I'd probably start catching serious shit from female family ...
Copper stimulating kitty cat
  02/26/05
Men get that kind of pressure? I thought it was not even lo...
dun resort messiness
  02/26/05
I think it's a regional thing. My mom's side of the family i...
Copper stimulating kitty cat
  02/26/05
So, if you're still a bachelor at 35, would people think you...
dun resort messiness
  02/26/05
Nah, not as long as I am dating. It's more of a "you sh...
Copper stimulating kitty cat
  02/26/05
Wow...my parents often talk about how they look forward to b...
dun resort messiness
  02/26/05
Poor NASC. You fuckers are cruel.
Pea-brained Charismatic Hominid
  11/11/05
wait, what happened why is jories bumping these?
Adventurous bipolar kitty
  11/11/05
Because NASC is a fuckhead .
provocative home
  11/11/05
uh, and you aren't?
Adventurous bipolar kitty
  11/11/05
32 currently 26
cerebral irate locus codepig
  11/11/05
32
blathering stain
  11/11/05
Before 30. Oh, I forgot, I already achieved this goal.
onyx theatre
  11/11/05
Then start picking out Husband No. 2 (the upgrade).
blathering stain
  11/11/05


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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:49 PM
Author: Fragrant narrow-minded space

Or, another way of putting it, at what age would you start to feel odd about not being hitched?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208049)





Date: February 25th, 2005 4:49 PM
Author: filthy orange therapy

1000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208052)





Date: February 25th, 2005 4:51 PM
Author: sticky senate

Never.

Ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208063)





Date: February 25th, 2005 4:53 PM
Author: razzle clear quadroon trust fund

when was the last time you kissed a guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208088)





Date: February 25th, 2005 4:56 PM
Author: sticky senate

Around Halloween, I guess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208115)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:02 PM
Author: sticky senate

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208180)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:05 PM
Author: Cracking organic girlfriend national

are you saying you don't want to get married or just that it wouldn't make you feel old if you didn't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208211)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:06 PM
Author: sticky senate

I don't want to get married. Even if I found "the right guy", I don't see the point in it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208214)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:07 PM
Author: Cracking organic girlfriend national

yeah. I mean part of me still want to get married, but part of me has been soured by this whole Susie thing. I really thought I had found "the one".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208235)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:08 PM
Author: sticky senate

What happened? You guys went out and she pulled away?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208247)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:15 PM
Author: Cracking organic girlfriend national

well, kind of. We were dating and she basically told me that she really liked me a lot, but she would not get serious with anybody right now. I had tried to date other people, but as long as we were dating it didn't work out so well because I always just wished I was with Susie. So I told her we should stop dating and just be friends. So then she proceeds to start exclusively dating another guy and gets semi-serious. Then all of the sudden she starts calling me at all times of the day, 3 AM or 8AM or 2 in the afternoon. Then one night she got drunk and needed me to pick her up. Logistically it was impossible for me to take her back to her apt, so she just stayed at mine. I made her sober up before she went to bed. So I go to put her in my bed and I was going to sleep on the couch. However, she just starts taking off all her clothes and tells me she wants me to hold her. So I do, the whole night. I didn't sleep at all, I jsut stared at her the whole night. She told me the next morning how wonderful it felt to wake up in my arms. I didn't know what was going to happen, I wasn't really thinking about it. Then about two days later she invited me to go hang out with her, except she was in a group of people that included the guy she had been dating. It was then when I realized what I had to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208299)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:41 PM
Author: sticky senate

Well, it's good that you cut the ties instead of playing along.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208506)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:43 PM
Author: Cracking organic girlfriend national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208517)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:44 PM
Author: Titillating Slimy University Mexican

F

edit that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208532)





Date: November 11th, 2005 9:54 AM
Author: provocative home

Date: February 25th, 2005 5:43 PM

Author: Luke_Schenscher_has_a_posse(http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=nascjacket)

yeah, I realize i'm an ugly dude and all...just gotta move on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#4266608)





Date: November 11th, 2005 9:50 AM
Author: provocative home

Date: February 25th, 2005 5:15 PM

Author: Luke_Schenscher_has_a_posse(http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=nascjacket)

well, kind of. We were dating and she basically told me that she really liked me a lot, but she would not get serious with anybody right now. I had tried to date other people, but as long as we were dating it didn't work out so well because I always just wished I was with Susie. So I told her we should stop dating and just be friends. So then she proceeds to start exclusively dating another guy and gets semi-serious. Then all of the sudden she starts calling me at all times of the day, 3 AM or 8AM or 2 in the afternoon. Then one night she got drunk and needed me to pick her up. Logistically it was impossible for me to take her back to her apt, so she just stayed at mine. I made her sober up before she went to bed. So I go to put her in my bed and I was going to sleep on the couch. However, she just starts taking off all her clothes and tells me she wants me to hold her. So I do, the whole night. I didn't sleep at all, I jsut stared at her the whole night. She told me the next morning how wonderful it felt to wake up in my arms. I didn't know what was going to happen, I wasn't really thinking about it. Then about two days later she invited me to go hang out with her, except she was in a group of people that included the guy she had been dating. It was then when I realized what I had to do.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#4266592)





Date: November 11th, 2005 12:24 PM
Author: Swashbuckling brunch

Please don't give up b/c of one crappy chick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#4267253)





Date: February 25th, 2005 4:55 PM
Author: House-broken frozen lodge turdskin

I'd feel weird if I hit 30 and was still single. I think getting married in the next five years or so would be nice (I'm 20 now).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208107)





Date: February 25th, 2005 4:58 PM
Author: lavender halford police squad

58, to an 18 year old.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208134)





Date: February 25th, 2005 8:37 PM
Author: heady autistic affirmative action

A 30 year old will look good when you're 58.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2209748)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:00 PM
Author: Chrome insanely creepy degenerate

Probably around 34-35. Since I'd like to have kids, at that point I think my biological clock would take over and I'd start making bad relationship decisions.

Ideally I'd like to get married in a couple years (am 27 now).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208149)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:01 PM
Author: Sepia kitchen

Late 30's

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208157)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:01 PM
Author: Seedy passionate stag film

26-28. Currently 23.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208161)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:01 PM
Author: Diverse cruel-hearted house windowlicker

30-32 Currently 23

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208168)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:02 PM
Author: odious institution pisswyrm

35

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208178)





Date: February 25th, 2005 8:38 PM
Author: provocative home

Get on AIM, pls. If you're not too busy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2209755)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:04 PM
Author: bright tripping ticket booth

Between 28-32... somewhere in there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208191)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:05 PM
Author: angry base

Mid-30's. My current bf is all gung-ho about getting married, so if we stay together, it might be sooner than that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208206)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:06 PM
Author: Chrome insanely creepy degenerate

Is mid 30's when you'd like to get married or when you'd start feeling weird? How old are you now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208213)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:07 PM
Author: angry base

I'm 29. 35ish would answer both your questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208233)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:06 PM
Author: Cracking organic girlfriend national

I'd like to get married between 25 and 30.

edit: I'm 23

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208225)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:21 PM
Author: plum indecent main people

AGe does not matter...she just has to be prestigous enough to be my trophy wife...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208335)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:25 PM
Author: Exhilarant Dog Poop Gunner

Probably sooner than later - my gf of 5+ years is starting to chomp at the bit. But I rather like living in sin. I'm 26.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208370)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:45 PM
Author: lavender halford police squad

Let me guess - she puts up with it for a while, then get's mad and threatens to go find (i.e. fuck) another guy, you promise to marry her which placates her, she puts up with it for a little while...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208534)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:43 PM
Author: judgmental old irish cottage useless brakes

Not until I fall in love. 60 would be nice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208522)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:51 PM
Author: bistre orchestra pit rigpig

27 or so. Start making little Skeletors areound 30.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208591)





Date: February 25th, 2005 5:55 PM
Author: lascivious offensive nursing home wrinkle

37.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208617)





Date: February 25th, 2005 6:00 PM
Author: Hilarious shrine

I'd like to be married by my mid-thirties, obviously subject to change. I'm 23.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208643)





Date: February 25th, 2005 6:12 PM
Author: Emerald infuriating yarmulke garrison

by 30 bc i want kids before 30 and need to be married before kids come. i'm 20 now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2208727)





Date: February 25th, 2005 8:19 PM
Author: exciting mischievous shitlib

mid-thirties. looks like i'll be getting married in my early thirties, so that's fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2209596)





Date: February 25th, 2005 8:37 PM
Author: provocative home

30.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2209753)





Date: February 25th, 2005 8:39 PM
Author: sadistic spot

25-27. 21.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2209761)





Date: February 25th, 2005 8:40 PM
Author: french sneaky criminal

right before i get noticeably balding. If i wait till afterwards, the quality of women i have to select from will decline precipitiously. If I marry beforehand, it will probably be too soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2209766)





Date: February 25th, 2005 9:30 PM
Author: dun resort messiness

Depends. If it's to my ex-boyfriend (we broke up only because of distance and we're still extremely close emotionally), then within 5 years (I'm 24). But if it's to someone I haven't met yet, I can't see myself getting married until my early-mid 30s.

I'm not so concerned about kids/fertility. I'd rather get married much older to the *right* person and not have kids, than get married younger so I can have kids and be a young/energetic parent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2210073)





Date: February 25th, 2005 9:33 PM
Author: floppy citrine filthpig

You're only 24? How old were you when you started LS?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2210082)





Date: February 25th, 2005 9:40 PM
Author: dun resort messiness

21

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2210111)





Date: February 25th, 2005 10:31 PM
Author: iridescent rough-skinned roommate abode

Im 22-- will be married before I'm 23.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2210408)





Date: February 25th, 2005 10:46 PM
Author: dun resort messiness

Are you engaged? Or just wishful thinking?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2210495)





Date: February 25th, 2005 10:34 PM
Author: Puce startling foreskin potus

Never

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2210420)





Date: February 25th, 2005 11:04 PM
Author: claret bbw boiling water

Ditto. Marry me?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2210561)





Date: February 25th, 2005 11:07 PM
Author: Puce startling foreskin potus

LOL we're perfect for each other

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2210574)





Date: February 25th, 2005 11:01 PM
Author: Thriller Cruise Ship Incel

28

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2210545)





Date: February 25th, 2005 11:16 PM
Author: Balding Irradiated Den

I'd never feel odd about not getting married, and I don't know if I want to. But assuming I did do it, maybe 40-45? To as young a chick as permissible by law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2210625)





Date: February 25th, 2005 11:25 PM
Author: aromatic international law enforcement agency

I want to find a nice hot Heeb to make love to by the time I hit 30

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2210686)





Date: February 25th, 2005 11:36 PM
Author: Racy Sandwich Forum

Never

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2210742)





Date: February 25th, 2005 11:37 PM
Author: Sable Property

30 or thereabouts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2210756)





Date: February 26th, 2005 10:24 AM
Author: Copper stimulating kitty cat

I'd probably start catching serious shit from female family members if I'm a bachelor at 35. I already started getting subtle hints in my mid 20s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2212378)





Date: February 26th, 2005 10:29 AM
Author: dun resort messiness

Men get that kind of pressure? I thought it was not even looked askance upon for guys to stay bachelors well into their 30s (b/c people say things like, "he's focusing on his career", or "he's waiting to get his finances in order").

I've never got "marriage pressure" from my family; a lot of my aunts are doctors who married late and had daughters that married late (mid-30s).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2212387)





Date: February 26th, 2005 10:41 AM
Author: Copper stimulating kitty cat

I think it's a regional thing. My mom's side of the family is originally from Texas (and I really only get it from that side). And it's not really intense or anything so far, just carefully targeted teasing; I'm also sure it's not as intense as my sister will experience if she remains unmarried.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2212407)





Date: February 26th, 2005 10:50 AM
Author: dun resort messiness

So, if you're still a bachelor at 35, would people think you're gay?

But you are right, it could be a regional thing. My family is from the Northeast, Chicago, and San Diego. If I didn't get married until my mid-30s, people would just attribute it to me focusing on career for a good part of my life, and think I was doing the mature thing by waiting until later in life to marry. If anything, my family is more into having me wait until I was older to get married: I would raise much more eyebrows if I got married in my mid-20s than if I got married in my mid-30s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2212427)





Date: February 26th, 2005 10:52 AM
Author: Copper stimulating kitty cat

Nah, not as long as I am dating. It's more of a "you should settle down and give me grandkids" attitude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2212431)





Date: February 26th, 2005 10:58 AM
Author: dun resort messiness

Wow...my parents often talk about how they look forward to being grandparents, but they never pressure me to give them grandkids. If anything, they say, "if your career is too busy for you to devote enough time to raising your kids, we'd love to take them off your hands."

Very tempting, although I don't know how I'd feel about a pair of senior citizens that could well be cracking 70 by the time I procreate raising children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#2212453)





Date: November 11th, 2005 9:52 AM
Author: Pea-brained Charismatic Hominid

Poor NASC.

You fuckers are cruel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#4266601)





Date: November 11th, 2005 9:55 AM
Author: Adventurous bipolar kitty

wait, what happened why is jories bumping these?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#4266613)





Date: November 11th, 2005 9:58 AM
Author: provocative home

Because NASC is a fuckhead .

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#4266621)





Date: November 11th, 2005 9:59 AM
Author: Adventurous bipolar kitty

uh, and you aren't?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#4266625)





Date: November 11th, 2005 11:55 AM
Author: cerebral irate locus codepig

32

currently 26

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#4267109)





Date: November 11th, 2005 12:37 PM
Author: blathering stain
Subject: 32

Then, would you try to get pregnant right away?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#4267315)





Date: November 11th, 2005 12:37 PM
Author: onyx theatre

Before 30. Oh, I forgot, I already achieved this goal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#4267321)





Date: November 11th, 2005 12:38 PM
Author: blathering stain

Then start picking out Husband No. 2 (the upgrade).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141298&forum_id=2#4267323)