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class ranking for clerkship applications

schools really need to stop taking away class rankings for c...
contagious cuck
  09/07/10
so HYSC are at a disadvantage then? they don't give pre-gra...
Concupiscible peach university
  09/07/10
yep. sad because if all applicants were weighed equally they...
contagious cuck
  09/07/10
Agreed. Most of the applications that I pulled for my judge ...
swashbuckling flushed school
  09/07/10
oh yeah I forgot that everyone on XO is at least marginally ...
supple corner
  09/08/10
Do you guys look at every app?
Iridescent talented weed whacker clown
  09/07/10
glance at resume at least
contagious cuck
  09/07/10
My chambers does, but we don't use OSCAR... since OSCAR allo...
Fishy locus ceo
  09/07/10
by criterial you mean school and journal? I didn't see where...
Iridescent talented weed whacker clown
  09/07/10
school, journal, class rank, date applied, prior clerkship, ...
contagious cuck
  09/07/10
Very quick glance, but only spend more than a few seconds on...
swashbuckling flushed school
  09/07/10
if the person's school doesn't rank, what is likely to make ...
Concupiscible peach university
  09/07/10
If the transcript is almost all H's (or whatever crap the sc...
swashbuckling flushed school
  09/07/10
is Yale just on a different level then?
Lavender adventurous incel church
  09/07/10
lulz
contagious cuck
  09/07/10
lol I'm serious. I didn't think Yale was so much ahead of H...
Lavender adventurous incel church
  09/07/10
by harvard/stanford, he meant t14 schools that do not rank (...
contagious cuck
  09/07/10
yeah. boalt also. i think there's one other, but they all bl...
swashbuckling flushed school
  09/07/10
Boalt apps at least have HH grades, which correspond to top ...
carmine space
  09/08/10
what level of judge are you at? competitive district?
Dark love of her life national
  09/08/10
around 1000 apps and it is a flyover. the idea that any dis...
contagious cuck
  09/08/10
rofl you epic fucking faggot
Aphrodisiac Doobsian Stage Dog Poop
  09/08/10
lol u so mad?
Lavender adventurous incel church
  09/08/10
what about UChicago grades. We're on the 186 scale and we do...
Aromatic erotic nowag idea he suggested
  09/08/10
Sounds like needless obfuscation. If you're going to give th...
180 travel guidebook
  09/08/10
cuz we want to be RIGOROUS, but not TOO RIGOROUS. The school...
Aromatic erotic nowag idea he suggested
  09/08/10
the difference is that dennis hutchinson knows where people ...
khaki blood rage den
  09/08/10


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Date: September 7th, 2010 8:44 PM
Author: contagious cuck

schools really need to stop taking away class rankings for clerkship applicants. when you get around 1000 applications and about 1/3 of them don't have class rankings, you end up throwing out most of the 1/3 unless the applicant appears superhuman. no one wants to troll through 300 law school transcripts to get a feel on how well an applicant did in school. it's even more annoying when career services sends your judge a 2 page explanation on how students are graded and (stanford) how elite and prestigious it is to get an H or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990029)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 8:45 PM
Author: Concupiscible peach university

so HYSC are at a disadvantage then? they don't give pre-graduation rankings (and YC no rankings ever)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990039)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 8:49 PM
Author: contagious cuck

yep. sad because if all applicants were weighed equally they would probably beat the shit out of all these T1 top 10ers.

actually, if a judge is looking to hire from only a few schools it is obviously not a disadvantage. a lot of judges do this. a lot of judges do not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990062)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 8:48 PM
Author: swashbuckling flushed school

Agreed. Most of the applications that I pulled for my judge are from students at T14s that still rank. Much easier to see that someone is in the top 5%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990055)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 9:42 AM
Author: supple corner

oh yeah I forgot that everyone on XO is at least marginally competitive to clerk for SCOTUS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15993926)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:00 PM
Author: Iridescent talented weed whacker clown

Do you guys look at every app?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990143)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:01 PM
Author: contagious cuck

glance at resume at least

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990160)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:03 PM
Author: Fishy locus ceo

My chambers does, but we don't use OSCAR... since OSCAR allows you to narrow down the list of applicants based on set criteria, it's far more likely your app will be read if you apply to non-OSCAR judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990168)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:08 PM
Author: Iridescent talented weed whacker clown

by criterial you mean school and journal? I didn't see where you enter your gpa on OSCAR....

I guess you can enter your rank if school ranks...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990218)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:09 PM
Author: contagious cuck

school, journal, class rank, date applied, prior clerkship, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990232)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:12 PM
Author: swashbuckling flushed school

Very quick glance, but only spend more than a few seconds on about 10 percent of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990275)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:13 PM
Author: Concupiscible peach university

if the person's school doesn't rank, what is likely to make you take a closer look at the person's resume/materials?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990285)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:18 PM
Author: swashbuckling flushed school

If the transcript is almost all H's (or whatever crap the schools use for highest grade), and there is LR, I'll look more closely. But we mostly consider Harvard/Stanford students only if their profs call. They really do need to go back to class ranking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990344)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:18 PM
Author: Lavender adventurous incel church

is Yale just on a different level then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990352)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:23 PM
Author: contagious cuck

lulz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990409)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:25 PM
Author: Lavender adventurous incel church

lol I'm serious. I didn't think Yale was so much ahead of Harvard/Stanford that those students need a prof to call to get the app looked at whereas Yale ones don't. It doesn't sound right given clerkship placement stats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990418)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:28 PM
Author: contagious cuck

by harvard/stanford, he meant t14 schools that do not rank (including yale)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990432)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:30 PM
Author: swashbuckling flushed school

yeah. boalt also. i think there's one other, but they all blend together.

though it's not as bad as the massive number of seton hall apps that we receive in hard copy (even though we accept online apps)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15990450)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:02 AM
Author: carmine space

Boalt apps at least have HH grades, which correspond to top 10-15%. But now the Stanford and Harvard apps all look the same, because they give out Hs there like candy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15992469)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:07 AM
Author: Dark love of her life national

what level of judge are you at? competitive district?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15992499)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 9:41 PM
Author: contagious cuck

around 1000 apps and it is a flyover. the idea that any district is non-competitive is a joke these days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15999005)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:08 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac Doobsian Stage Dog Poop

rofl you epic fucking faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15992512)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 9:02 AM
Author: Lavender adventurous incel church

lol u so mad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15993829)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 9:49 PM
Author: Aromatic erotic nowag idea he suggested

what about UChicago grades. We're on the 186 scale and we don't rank. There are honors designations at graduation and the top 5% or so get K&E scholar status during law school. LR is grade-on partially.

Anyhow, how do you interpret uchi if you've ever run across it? We do indicate in the transcript guide the rough class ranks and are supposed to attach that to the transcript

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15999077)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 9:52 PM
Author: 180 travel guidebook

Sounds like needless obfuscation. If you're going to give the materials for people to compute a rough class rank, why not just provide the damn rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15999100)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 9:58 PM
Author: Aromatic erotic nowag idea he suggested

cuz we want to be RIGOROUS, but not TOO RIGOROUS. The school does "rank" since there is coif and LR grade-on. They just don't tell you it and not sure if there's any way to find out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15999150)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 10:39 PM
Author: khaki blood rage den

the difference is that dennis hutchinson knows where people rank, and gives them advice on which chambers they would be competitive for (and occasionally hooks it up).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417262&forum_id=2#15999551)