Date: January 30th, 2011 11:17 AM Author: Yellow haunted graveyard
Because life is basically over at 30. Or to be more precise, the most active stage of life is over at or around 30. By 30, you should be done with your education, you should know yourself, you should have a very permanent career that you will most likely be in for the rest of your life, you should be married or close to it, you should have most, if not all, of your lifelong friends, what else is there left after 30? Sure, your career might still have yet to peak, and you might not have had kids yet, but those things are just natural progressions of things that should already be set in motion before 30.
So what does this imply about the 20's? I think it means that there is absolutely no reason to hold back anything during your 20's. If this were a race, this is already the last lap that actually matters. We should be going all in on every hand that we play, because the game will be over soon, and these are the last years where you are allowed to take risks in a real and fundamental sense; for while we are still young, there is no such thing as failure, for we can do no wrong.
Of course, it also means that to waste any time in your 20's is a crime against yourself. That said, I am retiring from xoxo effective immediately.
Date: January 30th, 2011 11:20 AM Author: Silver apoplectic elastic band
This only applies to those who get married and have kids. Otherwise, it doesn't apply.
Pretty sure guys who end up marrying for the first time at 40 will not reflect on the past and say that their 20s were the last meaningful years of life.
Date: January 30th, 2011 11:34 AM Author: tantric cyan locus
XO guys have this idea that they'll marry some young beautiful girl at 40 who will just love them and think they're the best. IRL, unless you're a Hollywood actor it is probably not going to happen. Look who even biglaw attorneys marry around that age. At 40 you will marry a 35 year old woman who may or may not be divorced and may or may not have kids but definitely will not be much younger or much more attractive. Sorry.
Date: January 30th, 2011 11:56 AM Author: Silver apoplectic elastic band
Bro, all an American guy has to do if he's desperate for a younger woman is travel to a foreign country or get serious about online dating. Also, who cares about finding a 25 year old woman at 40. Me personally, I'd be perfectly find with a nice 32-33 year old chick at 40.
Date: January 30th, 2011 12:13 PM Author: tantric cyan locus
Like the guy said, maybe 5% of guys succeed at pulling this off. The other 95% of guys fail miserably. Of those 5%, a good number are divorced within a few years as the bitch tries to take them for what they're worth.
Date: January 30th, 2011 12:26 PM Author: razzmatazz jet-lagged station
You realize that most single women who are 32-33 either unattractive, fat or crazy? The very attractive/ desirable, intelligent women marry by 25-30. There is a very small pool of attractive & educated women with NICE personalities who are still single at 30+. If they're not married, they usually have a long-term boyfriend
Date: January 30th, 2011 12:33 PM Author: Silver apoplectic elastic band
I don't know about crazy, but I can go on Match right now and find you a ton of 32+ yr old women who aren't unattractive or fat. Would you like me to put together some photos for you?
Date: January 30th, 2011 12:36 PM Author: razzmatazz jet-lagged station
These women will be desperate for marriage ASAP and probably be borderline basketcases. They are not looking to fall in love and enjoy the ride. Going out with a 32 yr old woman when your 40 is not the same thing as falling in love when you and your GF are both in your twenties and just enjoying yourselves and then get married if/when you feel it is best for both of you. The best thing you can do is find a nice, smart & pretty girl when you're both young and if you both love each other, don't let her go....It's not going to get better
Date: January 30th, 2011 12:42 PM Author: razzmatazz jet-lagged station
Right, but looks isn't the only consideration one should take in mind for marriage. Also the sample of single attractive, intelligent & nice women at 32+ is much smaller than the sample of single pretty intelligent, nice women who are 22-27. If you meet a girl when you're both young, you both grow together through your twenties and experience a more ideal love, which is harder to find when a woman is 32+ and anxious to get married to any decent guy regardless of whether she really loves him
Date: January 30th, 2011 12:46 PM Author: razzmatazz jet-lagged station
Okay, I see your point. If you're a very attractive, well-off guy with good social skills you can get laid until your 40, but don't expect to find your life partner or a wife you're absolutely crazy about once you're 40 and looking to settle down
Date: January 30th, 2011 12:48 PM Author: Silver apoplectic elastic band
I'm Black, mang. If I decide to marry at 40 it'll be to a Black/biracial woman and plenty will be available. The supply of quality Black men is low so even if I wait until 40, I'll be perfectly fine.
Date: January 30th, 2011 1:06 PM Author: razzmatazz jet-lagged station
Why do you think a single attractive black woman who is 30+ is any different than a single attractive white woman who is 30+? I'm sure any single attractive black woman who is still single at 32 is going to be as desperate and crazy as a white woman who is 32 and single. And most of the attractive, educated, intelligent black women will not be single at 30+
Date: January 30th, 2011 1:11 PM Author: Silver apoplectic elastic band
Because of two reasons:
1. Black women tend not to date interracially.
2. Most Black dudes aren't trying to marry or marry late.
3. The amount of quality Black men is small and many of them look to date/marry women of other races.
This results in many quality Black women remaining on the market after 30. I even have cousins and friends who are 30+, attractive, have a decent career, have no kids, and are educated, but still single, just dating around, or in relationships where the guy is putting marriage off.
Date: January 30th, 2011 11:31 AM Author: tantric cyan locus
shhhhhhhhhhh, no, just let him retire. His life ends at 30. It is all mundane repetitiveness after that. So carpe diem uvt! Add the xoxo and autoadmit domain names to your blocked sites list on your router. Scramble your password for your account. Bye!
Date: January 30th, 2011 11:36 AM Author: tantric cyan locus
He is uvt. He's a superstudyazn CS guy who thinks he is a rebel and thinks math is art. He's a virgin, of course, which is the main reason he hangs around here. Basically, one of the most obnoxious individuals to come across this site in a very long time.
Date: January 30th, 2011 11:41 AM Author: gold awkward sweet tailpipe
oh, u mad uvt knows what a data structure is and you don't? u mad uvt fucks White women and fields job offers while you sit around the house unemployed, getting fat and outgrowing your tracksuit once a month? u mad.
Date: January 30th, 2011 12:10 PM Author: walnut nubile locale
I think people who marry in theor 20's (men, at least) are giving up a lot of living for really no reason. In fact, I think you're pretty much a fucking idiot for doing this, unless there extenuating are circumstances.
Successful men in their late 30's have a world of opportunity. You're 30's, if you think about it, should actually be the best time of you life, if you've laid the proper groundwork.
Date: January 30th, 2011 12:16 PM Author: walnut nubile locale
And that is good that it worked out for you. But I see my friends who got hitched in their 20's, and that was pretty much it for them (at least until, for some of them, they got divorved). There was no real benefit they realized by doing this. Guys in their 30's are doing the same things, but are more accomplished, have more freedom and mobility, and in a lot of cases a much better financial picture.
Date: January 30th, 2011 1:47 PM Author: tantric cyan locus
See, that all depends on who you marry. If you marry some leach who demands to live near her family/friends and pop out kids then sure, you're right, that's a losing proposition. But that's not great at any age, IMO.
Date: January 30th, 2011 12:14 PM Author: Yellow haunted graveyard
I mean, I agree that 30's are pretty significant too. But if we think of life as a trajectory, by 30, the ball will have already left your hand, and while it may still be going up, it is because of what you did before not after.
Date: January 30th, 2011 12:18 PM Author: walnut nubile locale
As far as a profession, of course this is true. But that analysis does not really apply to relationships, except for the financial piece, which may or may not be significant.
Date: January 30th, 2011 12:27 PM Author: Yellow haunted graveyard
well you are more or less the person that you are by the time you are 30, and all relationships are obviously determined by that. and I do think the strongest friendships/relationships are formed while we are young, or at least on the young side.
Date: January 30th, 2011 12:19 PM Author: fear-inspiring fighting tanning salon mad-dog skullcap
I don't get the 20s trolling. Unless you caught some lucky breaks or got money from somewhere, you have to grind for a lot of years to get some autonomy. In your 30s you could have money and time to throw around.
wtf is TMF's position ITT aside from the CLEVER RUSSIAN SSHHHHHH LETS PRETEND WE AGREE WITH HIM SO HE WILL LEAVE sarcasm? he appears to agree with the OP's main points (can't magically get an awesome life at 40) but disagrees that the 20s are important in establishing this. i guess he's just being a silly faggot cool.
Date: January 30th, 2011 1:54 PM Author: tantric cyan locus
Actually, there are people who suck in their 20s, then in their 30s or even 40s that do something else and become great at it and then suddenly get awesome lives. I saw plenty of non-trads in LS who were over 30 when they started, got biglaw, etc. Some people even enter med school around that age.
Basically, this is a fucking retarded way of thinking, but that's uvt for you - the master of retarded ways of thinking.
Date: January 30th, 2011 1:00 PM Author: cocaine farts (lttp)
i enjoyed TMF's critique of my FRIEND uvt.
that said you guys realize he's just cribbing this from confucius right? confucius say, "thirty and established", so he wrote a bunch of "reasons why master kong is tcr"