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If you get treated for depression will you ruin your prof. life?
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Date: February 27th, 2011 2:04 PM Author: submissive drab piazza filthpig can't decide of the ramifications for admitting to a mental illness are worse than the depression itself. thoughts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17385979) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 2:36 PM Author: filthy place of business school cafeteria I got dinged trying to apply for the Marines 6 years after receiving treatment for depression; this was even before law school, when I wanted to enlist. Couldn't even get a waiver. That's about the extent of it so far. I was told that if I reapply after 10 years has passed it should be less of an issue though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386257) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 2:37 PM Author: insecure property liquid oxygen Do they only rely on your medical disclosures or is there a lengthy medical background check? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386260) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 2:46 PM Author: filthy place of business school cafeteria Disclosures. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386318) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 4:02 PM Author: pink rigor they will find out eventually. you can't hide it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17387059) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 4:50 PM Author: insecure property liquid oxygen Why couldn't you hide it permanently? Or, if symptoms showed up, pretend that it was a new condition that was never previously treated? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17387553) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 6:13 PM Author: Vermilion friendly grandma elastic band You could easily get away with lying about this.
NOTE: I am not recommending lying on a federal or military job application. This is wrong and may violate various laws. I am merely posing a hypothetical for the sake of discussion. |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 2:37 PM Author: Contagious Low-t Shrine Well, fuck my life then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386263) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:49 PM Author: Hideous drunken bawdyhouse candlestick maker this is me. I applied to JAG and had to basically admit this on the app. I fully expect to get dinged. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17388115) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:50 PM Author: twinkling circlehead new version By treatment, do you mean drugs? Or just therapy? Because I was considering starting therapy... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17388127) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 6:03 PM Author: Spruce Messiness Why do you think it would matter? They're not worried about your fucking treatment regimen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17388273) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 8:28 PM Author: filthy place of business school cafeteria I had drugs+therapy. It looks like there's a 7-year ding period, so as long as I'm outside the 7, seems like it's all cool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17389459) |
Date: February 27th, 2011 2:09 PM Author: Offensive anal principal's office internal respiration You prob. won't be able to get a security clearance and may not be able to purchase a firearm depending on the diagnosis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386015) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 2:33 PM Author: aromatic senate jap for real?? how would they check if you were prescribed any meds from your pcp? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386229) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 2:35 PM Author: beta international law enforcement agency BS. treatment for mild depression, anxiety, etc is not even close to enough to dq for security clearance. schizo, man/dep, etc, maybe |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 2:37 PM Author: Talented Bespoke Electric Furnace Chapel Depends on the clearance. Top Secret -- probably going to be hard to get with diagnosed depression. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386261) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 2:48 PM Author: razzle-dazzle deranged mediation orchestra pit I wondered about this. Is depression better or worse than anxiety? OCD? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386335) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 2:12 PM Author: Harsh preventive strike Please state the nature of the medical emergency. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386036) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 2:55 PM Author: Contagious Low-t Shrine Are you being audited? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386432) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 3:14 PM Author: Harsh preventive strike Please restate the nature of the medical emergency. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386625) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 3:26 PM Author: Contagious Low-t Shrine Patrick Cocks raped my nigger hole in the middle of the night last night. Can I sue for semen and assrape poisoning? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386738) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:05 PM Author: Harsh preventive strike I am a medical hologram, not a 20th century Earth lawyer. If you have trauma to your anus/rectum and are concerned with a sexually transmitted infection, I can treat you. Please remove your pants. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17387714) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:08 PM Author: Contagious Low-t Shrine nigger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17387759) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:11 PM Author: Harsh preventive strike To the brig with you, racist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17387791) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:12 PM Author: Contagious Low-t Shrine fag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17387796) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:19 PM Author: Harsh preventive strike Why are 21st century humans so crude? This is why there was WWIII. You'll probably be summarily executed by the Eastern Alliance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17387876) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 6:15 PM Author: Contagious Low-t Shrine fag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17388416) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 6:15 PM Author: Vermilion friendly grandma elastic band 180 schtick bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17388420) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 6:16 PM Author: Contagious Low-t Shrine ty faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17388421) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 6:17 PM Author: Vermilion friendly grandma elastic band not you, EMH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17388424) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 6:18 PM Author: Contagious Low-t Shrine mad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17388437) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 6:19 PM Author: Vermilion friendly grandma elastic band not really (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17388443) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 6:19 PM Author: Contagious Low-t Shrine mad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17388449) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 2:57 PM Author: nighttime karate rigpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386456) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 3:01 PM Author: very tactful chad if you read the sf-86 or whatever the app is called, you can answer no if you had anxiety or depression related to a "family" problem -ie death/divorce/lay off. That said, I don't think that people who are prone to depression and anxiety should volunteer for combat. But since we are (failed) lawyers, I think we can safely interpret that question to include a lot of common things that people suffer that leads them to seeking treatment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386482) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 3:08 PM Author: nighttime karate rigpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386561) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 3:13 PM Author: very tactful chad ty. if they did ding for A/D they'd never fill the lawyer, doctor and intel slots rofl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386615) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:45 PM Author: Slate area "they already pay outrageous amounts on all the combat veterans whose minds they've fucked, and they can't afford to take in people who already could use therapy"
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Date: February 27th, 2011 8:11 PM Author: Vermilion friendly grandma elastic band Military doesn't take felons right now. In a good economy, they will again, but right now they have so many qualified candidates they don't have to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17389355) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:48 PM Author: submissive drab piazza filthpig is that true about sf-86? It's such a weird thing when you think about though... like if you don't tell anyone because you are worried about clearances or c&f or something and it gets worse or makes you a terrible employee or you do something about it, get it treated but don't get a job because of it? We live in such a strange society. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17388103) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:57 PM Author: filthy place of business school cafeteria I have a lawyerly question about SF-86. I'm not applying for anything right now; was just looking through to see if my personal depression history would be an issue now--it's not, there's a "in the past 7 years" prefix.
This one question (23a): In the past 7 years, have you illegally used any controlled substance....
If I ate a brownie in Amsterdam 5 years ago, where it is decriminalized but still less than legal, could I reasonably say no to this? |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 3:01 PM Author: Orchid exhilarant hunting ground set if ur name is ernest hemingway, then yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386481) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 3:12 PM Author: Contagious Low-t Shrine 170 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17386598) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:48 PM Author: submissive drab piazza filthpig ok, i chortled a little (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17388106) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 3:31 PM Author: honey-headed razzle foreskin tattoo i took antidepressants on a whim from the ages of 18-22 and it has ruined my professional life. also, when i came off the antidepressants i became so agitated that i checked myself into a mental hospital, which is probably more damning than having been on the meds in the first place.
at first the hospital didn't want to admit me, because i didn't seem crazy enough. so i came back later that evening and told them i thought i was being controlled by aliens. this is all on file somewhere, i'm sure. |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 4:08 PM Author: glittery range dysfunction How did it ruin your professional life? Are you feeling better now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17387110) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 4:09 PM Author: Contagious Low-t Shrine flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17387117) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 4:49 PM Author: buff sneaky criminal Yeah stay away from the men in the white coats. I am telling you dude its like having a felony on your record. It could keeping you from buying a gun, joining the military, getting a security clearance, and could even show up in a background check for a legal job.
That said, just man up. If you have a real problem and your seeing green men in trench coats, then go get help. If you contemplating killing yourself regularly or others go seek help. Otherwise, just man up, and buy a good book on the subject. Shrinks are mostly quacks, its that simple! |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:03 PM Author: violent headpube base i don't think the hospital will release that information to anyone unless they're forced to legally (i don't know the laws behind this). they're not just going to give the info out to random people though. HIPAA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17387698) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:09 PM Author: Abusive Apoplectic Institution security clearance forms require you to sign a hipaa waiver (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17387764) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:13 PM Author: violent headpube base oh. yeah i have no idea about the government/security clearance stuff.
i thought the OP was just referring to normal jobs. |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 4:51 PM Author: mahogany provocative hall Unless you want to be a spy or a republican, I think you're fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17387568) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 4:59 PM Author: trip seedy windowlicker field what kind of background check even looks for medical history? Maybe FBI/CIA, or something requiring physical prowess -> otherwise don't see it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17387656) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:20 PM Author: boyish doctorate This search returns medical records for personal use, insurance companies, attorneys and other qualified users.
Peoples medical information does not only reside at their Doctor's office. Today, individual health and medical data is collected, collated, stored, analyzed and distributed in unprecedented quantities and put to diverse uses.
Payers can not only tap patient data for claims payment; they use it for utilization review, underwriting and coverage decisions.
Employers use health data to reduce their health care and workers compensation costs, as well as to identify employees who may be costly in the future.
http://www.abika.com/Reports/MedicalRecordsSearch.htm |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:49 PM Author: submissive drab piazza filthpig dood, that website looks fake as shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17388114) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 6:07 PM Author: boyish doctorate The skinny on background checks
An employer must ask your permission to conduct a background check on a form separate from an application or other paperwork. If a potential employer wants to talk to your friends, associates or neighbors, they must get a separate consent for what is known as an investigative consumer report. In addition, if an employer wants to see your medical records, you must give specific consent.
Once you give your consent, employers have broad latitude to inquire into your background. According to the Privacy Rights Clearinghouse, a consumer rights organization, areas of inquiry can include:
* Driving records * Vehicle registration * Credit records * Criminal records * Social Security Number * Education records * Court records * Workers' compensation * Bankruptcy * Character references * Neighbor interviews * Medical records * Property ownership * Military records * State licensing records * Drug test records * Past employers * Personal references * Incarceration records * Sex offender lists
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/advice/20050216a1.asp |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 6:17 PM Author: Vermilion friendly grandma elastic band most employers just do credit checks. some do state criminal.
bankruptcy shows up on the credit report. |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:11 PM Author: Slap-happy bbw not as much as depression will (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17387784) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:13 PM Author: shivering theater pithy, credited (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17387813) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:16 PM Author: violent headpube base agreed
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:29 PM Author: bat shit crazy pervert clown So you mean if they ask why I want to join the Army, I can't say I have a death wish? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17387944) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:51 PM Author: violent headpube base if basic depression is as problematic as people are saying it is i can't imagine why more people didn't fabricate mental illness to get out of being drafted. how hard would it be to visit a few psychiatrists, get that in your file and find someone to say you're seriously depressed and suicidal? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17388139) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 5:58 PM Author: Orchid exhilarant hunting ground set i think you're mixing two different eras.
obviously if Lincoln had an automobile, his hospital arrival would have been timely |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 6:08 PM Author: violent headpube base i guess. i was mainly referring to vietnam. the public was well aware of depression by then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17388338) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 6:17 PM Author: Harsh preventive strike But in those days depressed people were locked up in Bellevue and given shock treatment and lobotomies. I think even war was preferable. 20th century medicine is so barbaric. They didn't even have containment fields during surgical procedures! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17388428) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 8:01 PM Author: buff sneaky criminal Your a doctor not an XOXOer, do your job! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17389295) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 8:35 PM Author: Orchid exhilarant hunting ground set there's something to be said for the good ole days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1574754&forum_id=2#17389511) |
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Date: February 27th, 2011 6:11 PM Author: Vermilion friendly grandma elastic band Only in government and military. They don't search your medical records, though, contrary to what some poasters said. It's all disclosure. (I don't know about Top Secret Clearances, I don't have one).
Note: I am not condoning lying, as this would be wrong.
Outside of government, no one gives a shit. |