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Law schools with associates in Chicago (2012 ed.)

Again, I'm doing this a firm at a time. I might get bored wi...
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
Love when you do this thread bro. It's always impressive as ...
Swashbuckling tanning salon
  02/10/12
KIRKLAND & ELLIS
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
you're a sad little breh
honey-headed base fat ankles
  02/09/12
K&E cutting the Michigan, UIUC, and WUSTL deadweight fro...
Motley free-loading kitty cat nursing home
  02/09/12
I'd rather killself than go to any [non-UChi/NU] midwest law...
purple misanthropic philosopher-king
  02/09/12
WUSTL's on the upswing brah. Of course, when the starting p...
Motley free-loading kitty cat nursing home
  02/10/12
summer SA class size compared to last year would be better ...
chartreuse wonderful bawdyhouse
  02/09/12
SIDLEY AUSTIN
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
MAYER BROWN
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
Are Yale grads just too good for Chicago, even the very top ...
Motley free-loading kitty cat nursing home
  02/09/12
chicago is pretty TTT when you have your pick of cities
Exciting fear-inspiring pervert
  02/09/12
yeah, living in NY and getting cost of living pwned is far p...
dashing dingle berry boistinker
  02/12/12
LATHAM & WATKINS
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
WINSTON & STRAWN
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
ur a good bro
Garnet bossy ape digit ratio
  02/09/12
JONES DAY
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
Do you have this in a spreadsheet? If so I can make an infog...
grizzly persian
  02/09/12
JENNER & BLOCK
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
that's some serious declining
know-it-all library partner
  02/12/12
SKADDEN ARPS
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
Word on the street is that Skadden Chicago is in really bad ...
Swashbuckling tanning salon
  02/10/12
clear path to amelioration incl. hiring John Marshall grads.
dashing dingle berry boistinker
  02/12/12
BARTLIT BECK
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
RAW ASSOCIATE TOTALS OVERALL 1354 among these nine firms (-...
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
wat a shitty market
house-broken diverse toaster
  02/12/12
RAW ASSOCIATE TOTALS from these nine firms for all schools ...
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
the imbalance b/w Chicago and Northwestern is magnified when...
Low-t Aqua Telephone
  02/12/12
are you Brian Leiter?
bronze histrionic locus
  02/12/12
(yes)
Low-t Aqua Telephone
  02/12/12
RAW YEAR-OVER-YEAR ASSOCIATE INCREASE/DECREASE for schools w...
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
PERCENTAGE OF A GRADUATING CLASS from these nine firms for s...
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
Do the firms have similar length partnership tracks and attr...
lake drunken police squad
  02/12/12
Does this mean Illinois is placing 40% of the class in Chica...
Mauve office generalized bond
  02/09/12
No, that's not what it means although yeah it was worded str...
Appetizing Judgmental Becky Stage
  02/09/12
No, it's just a rough metric to account for class size. It's...
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
Maybe I need to get more coffee, but how I am reading this w...
Mauve office generalized bond
  02/09/12
It isn't SAs, it's all associates. Did you really think Kirk...
Mind-boggling quadroon
  02/09/12
Oh. OK. Got it. I would be really curious to learn the S...
Mauve office generalized bond
  02/09/12
The SA numbers are less useful. They have split summers, no-...
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
These numbers prove no one should ever go to a local Chicago...
Mauve office generalized bond
  02/09/12
No they don't. Better to take money from one of the local TT...
Mind-boggling quadroon
  02/09/12
Both suck. And Indiana throws out a ton of $, according to L...
Mauve office generalized bond
  02/09/12
Dude I'm a 0L, I have no idea.
Mauve office generalized bond
  02/09/12
Guess we've found Doobs.
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
If I were doobs, you'd get this response in gchat.
Mauve office generalized bond
  02/09/12
It's associates. They could have graduated in 2002 or 2005 o...
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
Got it. Would be interested to see a metric with SAs if t...
Mauve office generalized bond
  02/09/12
urbana places lke 15-20 percent into biglaw each year
chartreuse wonderful bawdyhouse
  02/09/12
nvm
Mauve office generalized bond
  02/09/12
it's not SAs but total associates poast is worded funny
chartreuse wonderful bawdyhouse
  02/09/12
...
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/09/12
Kinda funny Iowa has more overall associates than WUSTL.
Dull lascivious crotch jew
  02/10/12
As a top 20 law school with national reach, Washington Unive...
Motley free-loading kitty cat nursing home
  02/10/12
thank. you. for. this.
dashing dingle berry boistinker
  02/12/12
Weird that there are practically no YLS or SLS associates in...
high-end dead orchestra pit
  02/12/12
alpha sidley partners have no use for kvetching cerebral yal...
Garnet bossy ape digit ratio
  02/12/12
Who are these Kent people? Why are they loved so much? Would...
cerise vigorous clown
  02/12/12
(current kent admit)
Low-t Aqua Telephone
  02/12/12
SA classes of 296, wow! It's NYC Skadden 2009 again.
yellow underhanded public bath
  02/12/12
link to 296? That sounds right actually; just curious as to...
house-broken diverse toaster
  02/12/12
Kirkland & Ellis 296 associates
yellow underhanded public bath
  02/12/12
that's total number of associates in their office they o...
chartreuse wonderful bawdyhouse
  02/12/12
that's total associate count, not SA's Skadden NYC even n...
house-broken diverse toaster
  02/12/12
Oh. SA numbers are much more useful. The schools of later at...
yellow underhanded public bath
  02/12/12
53 bro, IT'S LIKE FUCKING 2005 IN THIS BITCH http://www.xox...
Puce Vivacious Gaming Laptop Brethren
  02/12/12
MODELS AND FUCKING BOTTLES IN CHICAGO YNY you mad, nyc?
chartreuse wonderful bawdyhouse
  02/12/12
...
supple idiotic tattoo french chef
  02/17/12
...
Puce Vivacious Gaming Laptop Brethren
  02/13/12
OFS DEM RANKINGS
Puce Vivacious Gaming Laptop Brethren
  03/12/12
In other news, Chicago firms have definitely upticked hiring...
Glassy electric furnace death wish
  03/12/12


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Date: February 9th, 2012 10:48 AM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef

Again, I'm doing this a firm at a time. I might get bored with it. I might include something like percentages if I feel like it. I don't care if I made mistakes and the numbers don't add up, it's close enough. Spare me your complaints about the data, about how some have faster partnership tracks than others, about school size. In fact, I already see I screwed up some math on one and made a big mistake in last year's data. Oh well. Last year's here: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1563853&mc=41&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19929837)



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Date: February 10th, 2012 9:11 AM
Author: Swashbuckling tanning salon

Love when you do this thread bro. It's always impressive as fuck. Top 5 XO post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19936340)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 10:50 AM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef
Subject: KIRKLAND & ELLIS

KIRKLAND & ELLIS 296 associates (-17 year-over-year)

Northwestern 57 (+15)

Chicago 38 (-1)

Harvard 26 (-2)

Michigan 21 (-7)

Virginia 11 (+2)

Illinois 11 (-5)

Kent 10 (-1)

Notre Dame 10 (-2)

DePaul 9 (-3)

Vanderbilt 8 -

GULC 8 (+2)

Cornell 8 (-2)

NYU 7 (+1)

WUSTL 7 (-3)

Penn 6 -

Duke 6 (+2)

John Marshall 6 (-1)

Iowa 5 -

Stanford 4 -

Loyola 4 (-1)

Minnesota 4 (-1)

Columbia 3 (+1)

BYU 3 (-2)

Indiana 3 (-2)

Yale 3 (-3)

Emory 2 (+1)

Fordham 2 (+1)

Wisconsin 2 (+1)

BU 2 (-1)

Texas 2 (-1)

BC 1 -

Case 1 -

Gonzaga 1 -

Houston 1 -

Howard 1 -

Marquette 1 -

Syracuse 1 (+1)

Syracuse 1 (+1)

Berkeley 1 (-1)

American 0 (-1)

Cincinnati 0 (-1)

GWU 0 (-1)

Tennessee 0 (-1)

OSU 0 (-2)

Utah 0 (-2)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19929850)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 10:54 AM
Author: honey-headed base fat ankles

you're a sad little breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19929890)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 11:25 AM
Author: Motley free-loading kitty cat nursing home

K&E cutting the Michigan, UIUC, and WUSTL deadweight from their associate ranks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19930004)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 11:54 AM
Author: purple misanthropic philosopher-king

I'd rather killself than go to any [non-UChi/NU] midwest law school. They are all in steep decline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19930129)



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Date: February 10th, 2012 9:24 AM
Author: Motley free-loading kitty cat nursing home

WUSTL's on the upswing brah. Of course, when the starting point is TTT, there's only one way to go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19936358)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 10:57 AM
Author: chartreuse wonderful bawdyhouse

summer SA class size compared to last year would be better

tyia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19929912)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 11:02 AM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef
Subject: SIDLEY AUSTIN

SIDLEY AUSTIN 243 associates (+11 year-over-year)

Sidley 243 (+11)

Chicago 45 (-4)

Harvard 35 36 (+1)

Northwestern 29 (+4)

Illinois 17 (+1)

Michigan 8 (-2)

Loyola 7 -

Miami 7 (+1)

Vanderbilt 7 (+1)

BU 7 (+2)

Iowa 7 *

DePaul 5 -

GULC 5 (+1)

Virginia 5 (-1)

Duke 4 (+1)

Minnesota 4 (+1)

Notre Dame 4 (+1)

NYU 4 (+1)

Penn 4 (+1)

WUSTL 4 (+2)

Missouri 3 -

Wisconsin 3 -

Kent 3 (+1)

BC 3 (-1)

Berkeley 2 -

John Marshall 2 -

Cornell 2 (+1)

Fordham 2 (+1)

GWU 1 -

Southern 1 -

St. Louis 1 -

Temple 1 -

Texas Southern 1 -

Toledo 1 -

Valparaiso 1 -

W&L 1 -

W&M 1 -

Yale 1 -

Colorado 1 (+1)

Denver 1 (+1)

Emory 1 (-1)

Stanford 1 (-1)

Hamline 0 (-1)

Indiana 0 *

*I must have screwed this up last year and coded Iowa as Indiana.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19929933)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 11:18 AM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef
Subject: MAYER BROWN

MAYER BROWN 169 associates (-25 year-over-year)

Northwestern 28 (-1)

Chicago 17 (+2)

Harvard 15 (-1)

Illinois 11 (-2)

Michigan 9 (-1)

Kent 9 (-4)

DePaul 8 -

Indiana 6 -

Cornell 6 (+1)

Iowa 6 (+2)

Loyola 6 (-7)

Minnesota 5 (+1)

NYU 5 (+1)

Wisconsin 5 (-1)

Notre Dame 3 -

Columbia 3 (-1)

OSU 3 (-2)

Penn 2 -

Stanford 2 -

Valparaiso 2 (+1)

John Marshall 2 (-1)

unk 2 (-2)

GULC 2 (-3)

Berkeley 1 -

Brooklyn 1 -

BU 1 -

Capital 1 -

Detroit 1 -

Howard 1 -

Marquette 1 -

Maryland 1 -

NIU 1 -

St. Thomas 1 -

Tennessee 1 -

Texas 1 -

UCLA 1 -

Vanderbilt 1 -

Virginia 1 -

Villanova 1 (+1)

Davis 0 (-1)

Duke 0 (-1)

Wayne 0 (-1)

WUSTL 0 (-1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19929992)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 11:26 AM
Author: Motley free-loading kitty cat nursing home

Are Yale grads just too good for Chicago, even the very top Chicago firms?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19930010)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 3:19 PM
Author: Exciting fear-inspiring pervert

chicago is pretty TTT when you have your pick of cities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931287)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 2:02 AM
Author: dashing dingle berry boistinker

yeah, living in NY and getting cost of living pwned is far preferable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19948123)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 11:31 AM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef
Subject: LATHAM & WATKINS

LATHAM & WATKINS 86 associates (+9)

Northwestern 19 (+2)

Michigan 12 *

Chicago 8 (-2)

Notre Dame 6 (+1)

Illinois 5 (+2)

Harvard 4 (-1)

GULC 3 (+1)

NYU 2 -

Penn 2 -

WUSTL 2 -

UCLA 2 (+1)

Vanderbilt 2 (+1)

Wisconsin 2 (+1)

Virginia 2 (-1)

Yale 2 (-1)

Texas 2 (-2)

Arizona 1 -

Emory 1 -

GMU 1 -

Iowa 1 -

Minnesota 1 -

UNC 1 -

Berkeley 1 (+1)

Columbia 1 (+1)

Tennessee 1 (+1)

GWU 0 (-1)

Loyola 0 (-1)

Seton Hall 0 (-1)

*I had zero Michigan last year, I don't know why

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19930028)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 2:59 PM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef
Subject: WINSTON & STRAWN

WINSTON & STRAWN 205 associates (-12 year-over-year)

Illinois 25 (-6)

Chicago 21 (+7)

Notre Dame 20 -

Michigan 18 (-2)

DePaul 15 (+1)

Northwestern 14 -

WUSTL 12 -

Loyola 12 (+2)

Kent 8 (-1)

Iowa 8 (-2)

Harvard 5 (+2)

GULC 4 (-1)

Indiana 4 (-1)

OSU 4 (-1)

Vanderbilt 4 (-2)

Penn 3 -

Cornell 3 (+1)

Berkeley 3 (-1)

Wisconsin 3 (-2)

Columbia 2 -

Minnesota 2 -

Texas 2 -

W&M 2 -

Duke 2 (-1)

Brooklyn 1 -

Florida 1 -

Hastings 1 -

NYU 1 -

Tulane 1 -

Uconn 1 -

William Mitchell 1 -

UNC 1 (+1)

Stanford 1 (-1)

GWU 0 (-1)

UCLA 0 (-1)

USC 0 (-1)

BU 0 (-2)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931200)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 3:03 PM
Author: Garnet bossy ape digit ratio

ur a good bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931218)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 3:14 PM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef
Subject: JONES DAY

JONES DAY 95 associates (-1 year-over-year)

Illinois 12 (+1)

Notre Dame 9 (+1)

Michigan 8 -

Northwestern 8 -

Chicago 5 (-1)

John Marshall 4 -

Wisconsin 4 (+1)

Indiana 4 (-1)

DePaul 3 -

OSU 3 -

GWU 3 (+1)

Kent 3 (+1)

Harvard 3 (-1)

Loyola 3 (-1)

GULC 2 -

Texas 2 (-1)

Virginia 2 (-1)

WUSTL 2 (-3)

American 1 -

BC 1 -

Columbia 1 -

Davis 1 -

Dayton 1 -

Fordham 1 -

Iowa 1 -

Penn 1 -

UCLA 1 -

Yale 1 -

Berkeley 1 (+1)

Catholic 1 (+1)

Cincinnati 1 (+1)

Stanford 1 (+1)

Vanderbilt 1 (+1)

Marquette 0 (-1)

Nebraska 0 (-1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931262)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 3:16 PM
Author: grizzly persian

Do you have this in a spreadsheet? If so I can make an infographic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931273)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 3:44 PM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef
Subject: JENNER & BLOCK

JENNER & BLOCK 138 associates (-29 year-over-year)

Chicago 18 (+1)

Michigan 16 (-1)

Harvard 11 (+1)

Illinois 10 (-6)

Northwestern 8 (+1)

WUSTL 6 (+1)

Loyola 5 (-2)

Iowa 4 -

Virginia 4 (-2)

DePaul 4 (-4)

Kent 4 *

Berkeley 3 -

BYU 3 -

Howard 3 -

John Marshall 3 (-1)

Notre Dame 3 (-2)

Minnesota 2 -

Missouri 2 -

American 2 (+1)

Indiana 2 (-1)

UNC 2 (-1)

Texas 2 (-2)

BC 1 -

Cincnnati 1 -

Columbia 1 -

Detroit 1 -

Maryland 1 -

Michigan State 1 -

New Hampshire 1 -

NYU 1 -

Southwestern 1 -

Stanford 1 -

Vanderbilt 1 -

W&L 1 -

W&M 1 -

Florida 1 (+1)

foreign 1 (+1)

GULC 1 (+1)

Wisconsin 1 (+1)

Yale 1 (+1)

GWU 1 (-1)

Cardozo 0 (-1)

Case 0 (-1)

Southern 0 (-1)

Valparaiso 0 (-2)

Indianapolis 0 (-3)

*I had zero Kent last year, I don't know why.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931402)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 12:05 AM
Author: know-it-all library partner

that's some serious declining

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19947513)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 3:59 PM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef
Subject: SKADDEN ARPS

SKADDEN ARPS 111 associates (-31 year-over-year)

Northwestern 29 (-2)

Michigan 15 (-8)

Chicago 11 (-8)

Iowa 7 (+1)

GULC 5 -

Kent 5 (-1)

Harvard 4 -

NYU 3 (+1)

Wisconsin 3 (+3)

Columbia 3 (-1)

OSU 3 (-1)

DePaul 2 -

Fordham 2 -

Loyola 2 -

Minnesota 2 -

Vanderbilt 2 -

GWU 2 (+1)

Illinois 2 (-3)

Case 1 -

Cornell 1 -

Notre Dame 1 -

Penn 1 -

Stanford 1 -

UCLA 1 -

Washington 1 -

Berkeley 1 (+1)

Indiana 1 (+1)

Texas 1 (+1)

Virginia 1 (+1)

BC 1 (-1)

Duke 1 (-2)

WUSTL 1 (-3)

W&M 0 (-1)

Wake 0 (-1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931481)



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Date: February 10th, 2012 9:14 AM
Author: Swashbuckling tanning salon

Word on the street is that Skadden Chicago is in really bad shape, litigation in particular. These numbers seem to support...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19936347)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 2:04 AM
Author: dashing dingle berry boistinker

clear path to amelioration incl. hiring John Marshall grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19948129)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 4:02 PM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef
Subject: BARTLIT BECK

BARTLIT BECK 11 associates (unchanged year-over-year)

Chicago 8 (+1)

Northwestern 2 -

Yale 1 -

Penn 0 (-1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931496)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 4:14 PM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef

RAW ASSOCIATE TOTALS OVERALL

1354 among these nine firms (-95 year-over-year, 7% reduction)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931564)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 3:28 PM
Author: house-broken diverse toaster

wat a shitty market

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19950281)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 4:30 PM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef

RAW ASSOCIATE TOTALS from these nine firms for all schools

Northwestern 194

Chicago 171

Michigan 107

Harvard 104

Illinois 93

Notre Dame 56

DePaul 46

Kent 42

Iowa 39

Loyola 39

WUSTL 34

GULC 30

Vanderbilt 26

Virginia 26

NYU 23

Wisconsin 23

Cornell 20

Minnesota 20

Penn 19

Indiana 17

John Marshall 17

Columbia 14

Berkeley 13

Duke 13

OSU 13

Texas 12

Stanford 11

BU 10

Yale 9

BC 7

Fordham 7

GWU 7

Miami 7

BYU 6

Howard 5

Missour 5

UCLA 5

Emory 4

UNC 4

W&M 4

American 3

Valparaiso 3

Brooklyn 2

Case 2

Cincinnati 2

Detroit 2

Florida 2

Marquette 2

Maryland 2

Syracus 2

Tennessee 2

W&L 2

Arizona 1

Capital 1

Catholic 1

Colorado 1

Davis 1

Dayton 1

Denver 1

GMU 1

Gonzaga 1

Hastings 1

Michigan State 1

New Hampshire 1

NIU 1

Southern 1

Southwestern 1

St. Louis 1

St. Thomas 1

Temple 1

Texas Southern 1

Toledo 1

Tulane 1

UConn 1

Washington 1

William Mitchell 1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931648)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 9:31 AM
Author: Low-t Aqua Telephone

the imbalance b/w Chicago and Northwestern is magnified when you consider two things: (1) Northwestern graduates a class that is 75 students larger (2) Northwestern places a clear majority of its grads in Chicago, whereas UChi grads disperse far more nationally.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19948460)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 4:17 PM
Author: bronze histrionic locus

are you Brian Leiter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19950530)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 4:19 PM
Author: Low-t Aqua Telephone

(yes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19950537)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 4:33 PM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef

RAW YEAR-OVER-YEAR ASSOCIATE INCREASE/DECREASE for schools with at least 5 associates

Northwestern 194 +19

Iowa 39 +8 *potential coding error last year may mean actually +1

NYU 23 +4

Wisconsin 23 +4

Fordham 7 +2

Berkeley 13 +1

Cornell 20 +1

GULC 30 +1

Miami 7 +1

Minnesota 20 +1

Vanderbilt 26 +1

Columbia 14 0

Penn 19 0

BU 10 -1

Duke 13 -1

Harvard 104 -1

Kent 42 -1 *potential coding error last year may mean actually -5

Notre Dame 56 -1

Stanford 11 -1

BC 7 -2

BYU 6 -2

GWU 7 -2

Virginia 26 -2

John Marshall 17 -3

Yale 9 -3

Chicago 171 -5

Texas 12 -5

DePaul 46 -6

OSU 13 -6

WUSTL 34 -7

Michigan 107 -9 *potential coding error last year may mean actually -21

Loyola 39 -10

Indiana 17 -11 *potential coding error last year may mean actually -4

Illinois 93 -18

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931667)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 4:41 PM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef

PERCENTAGE OF A GRADUATING CLASS from these nine firms for schools I care about totaling [but not actually how many from each class get associate positions]

Chicago [200]: 85.5% (from 87%)

Northwestern [275]: 70.5% (from 63.6%)

Illinois [225]: 41.3% (from 49.3%)

Notre Dame [175]: 32.0% (from 32.6%)

Michigan [375]: 28.5% (from 31.2%)

Iowa [200]: 19.5% (from 15.5%)

Harvard [600]: 17.3% (from 17.7%)

Loyola [225]: 17.3% (from 21.3%)

DePaul [325]: 14.2% (from 16%)

Kent [300]: 14.0% (from 14.3%)

WUSTL [250]: 13.6% (from 16.4%)

Minnesota [225]: 8.9% (from 8.4%)

Wisconsin [275]: 8.4% (unchanged)

Indiana [225]: 7.6% (from 14.2%)

John Marshall [400]: 4.3% (from 5%)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931709)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 2:17 AM
Author: lake drunken police squad

Do the firms have similar length partnership tracks and attrition rates?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19948175)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 4:57 PM
Author: Mauve office generalized bond

Does this mean Illinois is placing 40% of the class in Chicago BIGLAW? With other cities, it means Illinois is half going to BIGLAW. Wtf?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931776)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:00 PM
Author: Appetizing Judgmental Becky Stage

No, that's not what it means although yeah it was worded strangely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931793)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:02 PM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef

No, it's just a rough metric to account for class size. It's a ratio of all Chicago BIGLAW associates to a single graduating class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931797)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:06 PM
Author: Mauve office generalized bond

Maybe I need to get more coffee, but how I am reading this wrong.

Illinois had 93 SAs this year in 9 selected Chicago BIGLAW firms. Illinois also has a class of 225 law students. That means of just 9 selected firms (admittedly, a good portion of Chicago BIGLAW and Illinois' target market), 41.3% of the Illinois class is represented. Adding in the few who go to NYC, DC, whatever, we're looking at something like half of the University of Illinois going into BIGLAW. That seems insanely high.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931818)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:06 PM
Author: Mind-boggling quadroon

It isn't SAs, it's all associates. Did you really think Kirkland had almost 300 summer associates?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931820)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:07 PM
Author: Mauve office generalized bond

Oh. OK. Got it.

I would be really curious to learn the SA #.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931827)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:08 PM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef

The SA numbers are less useful. They have split summers, no-offers, clerks who never come back, and so on. And firms often don't release these figures, so someone has to figure them out. I think XO used to try to compile this stuff back in the day when people cared and stickies mattered.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931838)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:10 PM
Author: Mauve office generalized bond

These numbers prove no one should ever go to a local Chicago law school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931846)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:12 PM
Author: Mind-boggling quadroon

No they don't. Better to take money from one of the local TTTs than to pay full freight at the likes of Indiana in hopes of snagging Chicago Biglaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931856)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:20 PM
Author: Mauve office generalized bond

Both suck. And Indiana throws out a ton of $, according to LSN.

Go to UC/NU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931905)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:07 PM
Author: Mauve office generalized bond

Dude I'm a 0L, I have no idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931829)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:09 PM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef

Guess we've found Doobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931842)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:09 PM
Author: Mauve office generalized bond

If I were doobs, you'd get this response in gchat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931844)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:07 PM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef

It's associates. They could have graduated in 2002 or 2005 or 2008 or 2011, but they're actual associates spread across a decade.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931828)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:08 PM
Author: Mauve office generalized bond

Got it.

Would be interested to see a metric with SAs if that number is available. I know some firms post it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931836)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:04 PM
Author: chartreuse wonderful bawdyhouse

urbana places lke 15-20 percent into biglaw each year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931807)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:07 PM
Author: Mauve office generalized bond

nvm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931824)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 5:07 PM
Author: chartreuse wonderful bawdyhouse

it's not SAs but total associates

poast is worded funny

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19931830)



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Date: February 9th, 2012 6:39 PM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19932440)



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Date: February 10th, 2012 9:49 AM
Author: Dull lascivious crotch jew

Kinda funny Iowa has more overall associates than WUSTL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19936424)



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Date: February 10th, 2012 10:05 AM
Author: Motley free-loading kitty cat nursing home

As a top 20 law school with national reach, Washington University School of Law places graduates in major markets throughout the country. Click on the profiles below to find out what some of our recent grads are up to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19936464)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 2:06 AM
Author: dashing dingle berry boistinker

thank. you. for. this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19948140)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 1:42 AM
Author: high-end dead orchestra pit

Weird that there are practically no YLS or SLS associates in Chicago. Is that self-selection, or do none of these firms hire from those two schools (or both)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19948062)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 2:11 AM
Author: Garnet bossy ape digit ratio

alpha sidley partners have no use for kvetching cerebral yale faggots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19948162)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 2:08 AM
Author: cerise vigorous clown

Who are these Kent people? Why are they loved so much? Wouldn't it be a no-brainer to go there if you can get a full ride?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19948155)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 3:18 PM
Author: Low-t Aqua Telephone

(current kent admit)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19950251)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 3:29 PM
Author: yellow underhanded public bath

SA classes of 296, wow! It's NYC Skadden 2009 again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19950285)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 3:32 PM
Author: house-broken diverse toaster

link to 296? That sounds right actually; just curious as to source/year for the info.

Yup, it's a shit market. I think Texas replaces Chicago as a major legal market in the country starting around now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19950290)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 3:34 PM
Author: yellow underhanded public bath

Kirkland & Ellis 296 associates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19950294)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 3:36 PM
Author: chartreuse wonderful bawdyhouse

that's total number of associates in their office

they only have 40-50 summers this year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19950307)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 3:38 PM
Author: house-broken diverse toaster

that's total associate count, not SA's

Skadden NYC even now has over 500 associates

I'd guestimate that before ITE, Kirkland Chicago was closer to 350 and Skadden NYC was closer to 700

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19950314)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 3:39 PM
Author: yellow underhanded public bath

Oh. SA numbers are much more useful. The schools of later attrition doesn't mean anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19950321)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 4:10 PM
Author: Puce Vivacious Gaming Laptop Brethren

53 bro, IT'S LIKE FUCKING 2005 IN THIS BITCH

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1792148&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19950489)



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Date: February 12th, 2012 4:12 PM
Author: chartreuse wonderful bawdyhouse

MODELS AND FUCKING BOTTLES IN CHICAGO YNY

you mad, nyc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19950497)



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Date: February 17th, 2012 11:46 AM
Author: supple idiotic tattoo french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19983508)



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Date: February 13th, 2012 10:25 AM
Author: Puce Vivacious Gaming Laptop Brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#19955909)



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Date: March 12th, 2012 9:00 PM
Author: Puce Vivacious Gaming Laptop Brethren

OFS DEM RANKINGS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#20188343)



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Date: March 12th, 2012 9:12 PM
Author: Glassy electric furnace death wish

In other news, Chicago firms have definitely upticked hiring compared to the last few years:

K&E: 53 SA's

Sidley: 40 SA's

Mayer Brown: 29 SA's

Winston: 20 SA's

Jenner: 19-20 SA's (from what I have been told)

Still pretty pathetic but at least it's an improvement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1869560&forum_id=2#20188453)