HEY CONSERVATARDS: THIS IS WHY INCOME INEQUALITY IS BAD. LEARN!
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Date: February 11th, 2012 6:32 PM Author: contagious haunting sanctuary hairy legs
We have moved from a society in the 1950s and 1960s, in which race was more consequential than family income, to one today in which family income appears more determinative of educational success than race,” said Sean F. Reardon, a Stanford University sociologist. Professor Reardon is the author of a study that found that the gap in standardized test scores between affluent and low-income students had grown by about 40 percent since the 1960s, and is now double the testing gap between blacks and whites.
In another study, by researchers from the University of Michigan, the imbalance between rich and poor children in college completion — the single most important predictor of success in the work force — has grown by about 50 percent since the late 1980s.
The changes are tectonic, a result of social and economic processes unfolding over many decades. The data from most of these studies end in 2007 and 2008, before the recession’s full impact was felt. Researchers said that based on experiences during past recessions, the recent downturn was likely to have aggravated the trend.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/10/education/education-gap-grows-between-rich-and-poor-studies-show.html?pagewanted=all&src=ISMR_AP_LO_MST_FB
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Date: February 12th, 2012 9:16 AM Author: Brilliant dilemma
I argue for both elimination of gov't in the welfare state AND the regulation/lobbying of business. Someone saying "Assume the first is eliminated but we keep the second, what then?" is retarded because ofcourse there will still be shit effects because you have yet to eliminate the second component.
You Edited so here goes:
"but it also seems to be the case that our workforce isn't educated well enough"
And who runs the education in this country?
Also, the article is proof positive of what I am saying: The Chinese (in this instance) are far more flexible and adept at servicing business needs and are thus rewarded with investment and jobs. Try the same thing in America and you get fooded with red-tape.
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Date: February 12th, 2012 9:41 AM Author: Brilliant dilemma
Listen, if we are going to tango, you need to get your fucking act together.
A) Greek Austerity measures and the effects does not in anyway defend
"markets cannot function without government intervention. Inevitably, the State needs to step in to rectify inevitable distortions in the market that are attributable to the "invisible hand"."
I know what you are trying to say, but that is totaly unrelated. Stick to the topic at hand, stop bouncing around.
B) With respect to Greece, you need to understand; Thanks to the gov't infused boon and distortions, liquidation HAS to occur. The Pain HAS to come. The question is whether you continue shoving it under the rug and making it worse, or cleansing the capital structure and liquidating the debt and getting back on track.
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Date: February 12th, 2012 10:16 AM Author: Brilliant dilemma
I see income inequality no different than height inequality, intellegence inequality, etc. Humans are not clones of one another, is that "bad" thing? Moreover, ask yourself this, even if you think income inequality is "bad", straight facts already show that gov't intervention in order to rectify or lower the gap in this inequality have failed, and probably made the gap larger. Why then continute to support such intervention? I cannot change your mind re: inequality being "bad". What I can do however is show you how the only proven method of reducing such inequality is through the free-market absent, or mostly absent, state intervention. One need only look at the shrinking of the gap between the 1600s to the end of the 19th century which was directly linked to a massive eradication of centralized state-power in both Europe and NA.
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:24 PM Author: salmon sinister round eye
people are shitheads.
you trust the market to correct people who don't follow the rules?
you trust the market to correct people who have no ethics if there are no rules?
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Date: February 12th, 2012 10:18 AM Author: Outnumbered gold hell
eurostyle.
smart, studious ---> college prep.
dumb---> votech.
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Date: February 12th, 2012 10:21 AM Author: Outnumbered gold hell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnasium_%28Germany%29
Common types of gymnasium
[edit] Humanistisches Gymnasium (humanities-oriented)
Representation of Aristoteles at the Joachimsthalsches Gymnasium, a humanities-oriented gymnasium
Memorial for 128 students killed in action in WWI. "To you the laurel in deep gratitude; for us, the shattered sword as a holy reminder."
Humanities-oriented gymnasien usually have a long tradition. They teach Latin and Ancient Greek (sometimes also Old Hebrew) and additionally teach English or French or both. The focus is on the classical antiquity and the civilizations of ancient Greece and ancient Rome.[citation needed]
For certain subjects, such as History, many universities still require the Latinum or the Graecum, proof of study or comprehension of Latin or Ancient Greek, respectively, if not both.[citation needed]
[edit] Neusprachliches Gymnasium (focus on modern languages)
This type of school is less traditional. It teaches at least two modern languages. In most cases the students have the chance to learn Latin as well.[9]
[edit] Mathematisch-Naturwissenschaftliches Gymnasium (focus on math and science)
Often combined with the Neusprachliches Gymnasium this type of schools have a greater focus on Maths and Science. Most schools offer Latin or French as second foreign language.
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Date: February 12th, 2012 10:39 AM Author: mind-boggling deranged pocket flask
"we need to free high iq kids from stupid peers"
Yes. I went to a public high school in a small city that was mostly lower middle/working class with a few upper middle income students sprinkled in. We had a decent selection of AP classes--nothing like you get in a large, highly-rated suburban district, but still enough that if you were an AP class taker, you basically spent your whole day with other (same) AP students.
The kids in the AP classes were genuinely interested in learning and the atmosphere was one of friendly competition. A few times, however, I had to take a class outside the "AP track" (i.e. health or some bullshit like that). It was shocking to me how awful it was--the teachers were babysitting, not because they wanted to but because their students were so fucking stupid and unmotivated.
You can't fix the fact that some kids are just intrinsically motivated or have good parents who encourage them to learn. That's a cultural/societal problem, not a political one. You can, however, make developing your good students your #1 priority by expending the time and resources necessary to develop them. We used to do that in this country, I think. We don't anymore.
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