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http://chronicle.com/article/From-Graduate-School-to/131795/...
arousing lime meetinghouse
  05/08/12
I find it horrifying that she thinks her work is worth anyth...
claret talented stag film
  05/08/12
"Highly educated" made me chuckle. I wonder how...
Low-t Zombie-like Blood Rage
  05/08/12
180
180 ultramarine box office
  05/08/12
lol http://uci.academia.edu/MelissaBruningaMatteau/About ...
Canary school cafeteria associate
  05/08/12
ty
idiotic razzle laser beams
  05/08/12
Totally irresponsible broad, "studying" dat shit w...
brass bipolar pistol
  06/20/12
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Awkward Native Party Of The First Part
  05/08/12
Estimated yearly salary $8k.
Glassy Comical Crotch
  05/08/12
As part of transitioning to a sensible model of higher educa...
claret talented stag film
  05/08/12
She is being paid in medieval dollars.
Marvelous hyperventilating nibblets
  05/08/12
LOL, just LOL at shitprofs teaching shitsubjects at shitcoll...
violent windowlicker
  05/08/12
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claret talented stag film
  05/08/12
what kind of prole thinks medieval history is a shit subject...
soul-stirring misanthropic business firm ape
  05/08/12
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Abusive sound barrier
  05/08/12
This site has become infested with Santorum-esque conservata...
snowy ungodly round eye doctorate
  05/08/12
tmfcq
Vigorous vermilion newt athletic conference
  06/20/12
No one is paying loans to go to Yavapai College.
Razzle-dazzle elite ratface depressive
  06/20/12
she can probably take accounting classes for free/cheap at h...
Fragrant Jewess
  05/08/12
tcr
Mischievous Multi-colored Genital Piercing Stock Car
  05/08/12
Not surprising that someone who's spent all her life studyin...
supple outnumbered school rigpig
  05/08/12
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Vigorous vermilion newt athletic conference
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claret talented stag film
  05/08/12
why can't it ever be a science/math STEM PhD in one of these...
Vigorous vermilion newt athletic conference
  05/08/12
there are people who did humanities phd at top schools and t...
startled wild trump supporter double fault
  05/08/12
by the way, if she could find a teaching job at a community ...
startled wild trump supporter double fault
  05/08/12
$60k with health insurance to teach chill students at CC is ...
scarlet factory reset button
  05/08/12
yes, I mean full-time job at CC. one of my relatives is t...
startled wild trump supporter double fault
  05/08/12
keep talking shit about public ivies breh
cowardly hominid
  05/08/12
You mean a tenure-track position? Is anyone, anywhere even ...
Plum philosopher-king dragon
  05/08/12
why don't people in shit higher ed gun for high school teach...
Mischievous Multi-colored Genital Piercing Stock Car
  05/08/12
i know of a phd chemist who did this. kind of sad though.
soul-stirring misanthropic business firm ape
  05/08/12
why?
Mischievous Multi-colored Genital Piercing Stock Car
  05/08/12
Me too. Guy ended up going off the deep end and cooking meth...
claret talented stag film
  05/08/12
i think that was a tv show.
soul-stirring misanthropic business firm ape
  05/08/12
I know a phd in bio who did that, too.
snowy ungodly round eye doctorate
  05/08/12
"We socialize people into accepting the coin of reputat...
self-centered fuchsia parlor reading party
  05/08/12
PRESTIGE BIGLAW (meanwhile a plumber in Oklahoma City ...
Exciting Talking Main People
  05/08/12
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claret talented stag film
  05/08/12
lol neurotypicals *plays with my 401k*
Mischievous Multi-colored Genital Piercing Stock Car
  05/08/12
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Vigorous vermilion newt athletic conference
  06/20/12
good question. and they would have the summers off to do res...
Fragrant Jewess
  05/08/12
Striver dreams die hard bro. People go into academia to be R...
gold curious garrison
  06/20/12
People ITT act like there are no adjunct science or math pro...
startling den
  05/08/12
Good thing they are cutting costs. I assume tuition will co...
Canary school cafeteria associate
  05/08/12
science/math profs have much better options, so it's easy fo...
Trip candlestick maker church
  05/08/12
I hate to say it, but society should not punish people so se...
Smoky Gaming Laptop
  05/08/12
shoulda copped dat stem
Vigorous vermilion newt athletic conference
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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:43 AM
Author: arousing lime meetinghouse

http://chronicle.com/article/From-Graduate-School-to/131795/

"I am not a welfare queen," says Melissa Bruninga-Matteau.

That's how she feels compelled to start a conversation about how she, a white woman with a Ph.D. in medieval history and an adjunct professor, came to rely on food stamps and Medicaid. Ms. Bruninga-Matteau, a 43-year-old single mother who teaches two humanities courses at Yavapai College, in Prescott, Ariz., says the stereotype of the people receiving such aid does not reflect reality. Recipients include growing numbers of people like her, the highly educated, whose advanced degrees have not insulated them from financial hardship.

"I find it horrifying that someone who stands in front of college classes and teaches is on welfare," she says.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643269)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:47 AM
Author: claret talented stag film

I find it horrifying that she thinks her work is worth anything at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643293)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:14 AM
Author: Low-t Zombie-like Blood Rage

"Highly educated" made me chuckle.

I wonder how long one might slum it on loan money + $10-20k salary for the opportunity to scratch some weird medieval fetish in front of a roomful of bored undergrads.

And I get a kick out of "welfare queen" coming from someone who probably participates in Renaissance festivals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643466)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:18 AM
Author: 180 ultramarine box office

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643493)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:14 PM
Author: Canary school cafeteria associate

lol

http://uci.academia.edu/MelissaBruningaMatteau/About

https://plus.google.com/112599551828027848185/about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643821)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:38 PM
Author: idiotic razzle laser beams

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645293)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:24 PM
Author: brass bipolar pistol

Totally irresponsible broad, "studying" dat shit with kids depending on her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20922144)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:44 AM
Author: Awkward Native Party Of The First Part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643276)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:45 AM
Author: Glassy Comical Crotch

Estimated yearly salary $8k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643285)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:46 AM
Author: claret talented stag film

As part of transitioning to a sensible model of higher education, probably 60-70% of professors need to basically lose their jobs and retool themselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643288)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:47 AM
Author: Marvelous hyperventilating nibblets

She is being paid in medieval dollars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643294)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:25 AM
Author: violent windowlicker

LOL, just LOL at shitprofs teaching shitsubjects at shitcolleges complaining about their shitpay, when said colleges already charge tuition well in excess of the (non-existant) value they provide, and would promptly go out of business if not for federally subsidized loans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643527)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:11 PM
Author: claret talented stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643801)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 2:54 PM
Author: soul-stirring misanthropic business firm ape

what kind of prole thinks medieval history is a shit subject?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644720)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:31 PM
Author: Abusive sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644934)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:47 PM
Author: snowy ungodly round eye doctorate

This site has become infested with Santorum-esque conservatards with absolutely no culture and with prole aspirations of pharmacy jobs.

Disclosure: I have one of those STEM degrees from an elite college that XOXO jerks off so hard to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645368)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 1:51 PM
Author: Vigorous vermilion newt athletic conference

tmfcq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20921713)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:50 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle elite ratface depressive

No one is paying loans to go to Yavapai College.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20921970)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:27 AM
Author: Fragrant Jewess

she can probably take accounting classes for free/cheap at her school, which would let her sit for the CPA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643536)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:02 PM
Author: Mischievous Multi-colored Genital Piercing Stock Car

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644771)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:38 AM
Author: supple outnumbered school rigpig

Not surprising that someone who's spent all her life studying feudalism can't grasp how salaries are determined in capitalist systems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643581)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:39 AM
Author: Vigorous vermilion newt athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643590)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:11 PM
Author: claret talented stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643800)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:39 AM
Author: Vigorous vermilion newt athletic conference

why can't it ever be a science/math STEM PhD in one of these stories. they always have to ridicule the professor of "medieval studies."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643589)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:50 AM
Author: startled wild trump supporter double fault

there are people who did humanities phd at top schools and then did cpa or jd to become 'real' proefssionals, while teaching a class or two for pure interest. however, these are genuinely bright and versatile people.

there are people with mediocre intellect who can't switch fields. they are not that bright in their own fields anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643661)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:18 PM
Author: startled wild trump supporter double fault

by the way, if she could find a teaching job at a community college, she'll have a cool, credited life. does not have to be a professor at a research university, for which she is not that eligible anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643852)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:21 PM
Author: scarlet factory reset button

$60k with health insurance to teach chill students at CC is living the good life. $8k as a part-time teacher for online classes is not a career.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643875)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:23 PM
Author: startled wild trump supporter double fault

yes, I mean full-time job at CC.

one of my relatives is teaching at CC even with a phd and he says a professor at a Research university earns more or less ... but with far more prestige.

actually, community college jobs would not be THAT difficult to find if her credentials have been better.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643895)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:23 PM
Author: cowardly hominid

keep talking shit about public ivies breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644899)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:04 PM
Author: Plum philosopher-king dragon

You mean a tenure-track position? Is anyone, anywhere even hiring for that type of thing anymore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644777)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:04 PM
Author: Mischievous Multi-colored Genital Piercing Stock Car

why don't people in shit higher ed gun for high school teaching jobs? those pay much better with better benefits and it's not like they couldn't teach at a local shit community college at night.

some high schools would dig getting a phd on staff and would probably eventually let them teach AP classes or other specialized stuff for the AP kids. i had a teacher like that in HS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644784)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:06 PM
Author: soul-stirring misanthropic business firm ape

i know of a phd chemist who did this. kind of sad though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644791)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:09 PM
Author: Mischievous Multi-colored Genital Piercing Stock Car

why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644814)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:11 PM
Author: claret talented stag film

Me too. Guy ended up going off the deep end and cooking meth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644824)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:14 PM
Author: soul-stirring misanthropic business firm ape

i think that was a tv show.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644843)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:48 PM
Author: snowy ungodly round eye doctorate

I know a phd in bio who did that, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645373)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:34 PM
Author: self-centered fuchsia parlor reading party

"We socialize people into accepting the coin of reputation as status capital. Some people are so deeply socialized into the regime of payment by way of status that they are essentially trapped in it for life."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644943)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:36 PM
Author: Exciting Talking Main People

PRESTIGE

BIGLAW

(meanwhile a plumber in Oklahoma City outearns u)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644957)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:11 PM
Author: claret talented stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645149)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:19 PM
Author: Mischievous Multi-colored Genital Piercing Stock Car

lol neurotypicals

*plays with my 401k*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645186)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:07 PM
Author: Vigorous vermilion newt athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20921791)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:17 PM
Author: Fragrant Jewess

good question. and they would have the summers off to do research/publish/maybe teach an adjunct CC class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645174)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:01 PM
Author: gold curious garrison

Striver dreams die hard bro. People go into academia to be Richard Feynman or Harold Bloom, not to be supervised by some guy with a 3.3 in Education from Directional State U.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20921759)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:16 PM
Author: startling den

People ITT act like there are no adjunct science or math profs.

I had a math prof who was basically begging students to write him good reviews at the end of the year because needed that extension to keep his 20K income going for his two classes he taught.

I guess its becoming less of a problem though because universities are just dumping these guys for TA's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644851)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:19 PM
Author: Canary school cafeteria associate

Good thing they are cutting costs. I assume tuition will come down shortly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644865)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:28 PM
Author: Trip candlestick maker church

science/math profs have much better options, so it's easy for them to leave their shit ttteaching jobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644921)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:49 PM
Author: Smoky Gaming Laptop

I hate to say it, but society should not punish people so severely for taking risks. This person could have ended up teaching in her field at a highly rated university, but didn't make it. So her only option is to teach as an adjunct at a cc for a few thousand? That's pretty severe. Obviously, once you realize the game, you have to retool yourself into a skillset that works for the economy. But I applaud her for going for the $80K/yr tenured job, even if she failed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645377)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:51 PM
Author: Vigorous vermilion newt athletic conference

shoulda copped dat stem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645382)