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Longer Hours: Cravath Corp, S&C M&A or Weil BK
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:16 PM Author: salmon stage Longest* rather (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089271) |
Date: July 14th, 2012 11:19 PM Author: trip carnelian business firm psychic Cravath has the sweatshop rep. M&A always ends up being inconsistent.
The major Chapter 11 group people I know seem to work more than anyone else. Deadlines aren't as crazy but the sheer volume of shit to do is fucking insane. Year after year, a lot of the top ten hourly billable partners in NYC are Chp. 11 sharks at Milbank. |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:21 PM Author: vivacious internet-worthy blood rage son of senegal deadlines aren't as crazy in BK? it's basically lit on steroids (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089318) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:23 PM Author: trip carnelian business firm psychic IME judges let everything get pushed around and there are usually so many parties involved that nothing comes in on time. I'm not saying you don't need to file shit when you need to file it, but it seems more like a steady avalanche of shit in and out instead of everyone sitting around at 4:00am trying to get shit ready for a closing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089337) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:34 PM Author: Indecent costumed parlor gunner BK bros I know average 2700 hours, with endpoints of the spectrum being 2400 and 3100. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089446) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:37 PM Author: trip carnelian business firm psychic sounds about right. more dickhead partners on average too, from what i can tell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089479) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:39 PM Author: Indecent costumed parlor gunner Yeah. I understand why some of my friends at K&E do it because they get bonused accordingly, but my two bros who went to Weil are just getting trounced. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089494) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:50 PM Author: trip carnelian business firm psychic I knew someone who did a pretty prestigious BK clerkship then decided he wanted corp or lit or anything else based on his impression of the workload and what he was hearing from other people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089589) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:27 PM Author: Red filthy native selfie if during a deal, S&C (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089375) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:28 PM Author: Talented brass space electric furnace bk has the best hours (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089386) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:29 PM Author: Indecent costumed parlor gunner this is not tcr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089398) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:34 PM Author: Talented brass space electric furnace all 3 choices in OP have long hours, bk is steadiest and hence best (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089450) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:37 PM Author: Indecent costumed parlor gunner See post above, the BK bros I know average 2700 and there are a few substantially above that. It's a steady shitstorm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089480) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:38 PM Author: salmon stage What are the benefits of subjecting yourself to this group then? 2800 on the reg is nuts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089488) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:40 PM Author: Indecent costumed parlor gunner I'm not sure, as the exit options are pretty shitty. I understand K&E BK bros being okay with it bc they're getting paid, but Weil? got damn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089510) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:43 PM Author: salmon stage Seriously. What does a Weil 4th year have the chance to exit into? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089532) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:45 PM Author: Indecent costumed parlor gunner Normally? Partnership track at a lesser shop. Once in a blue moon? Vulture funds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089546) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:47 PM Author: salmon stage Partnership track at a lower firm is pretty solid. Isn't PPP in the lower V100 still like. 600-800k? Im guessing not too many in house positions for bankruptcy specialists. Lol. Just lol at a lawyer moving straight to a hedge fund though. They require top IB experience I thought. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089569) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:49 PM Author: Indecent costumed parlor gunner Very rare, as I said. The ONE guy I personally know who did it worked at Houlihan before going back to LS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089582) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:51 PM Author: salmon stage Yeah I guess the best you could really hope for is trying to move into of counsel on maybe, maybe partnership at a V100. Bar dat botique ibd pre ls exp like ur bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089604) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:54 PM Author: Indecent costumed parlor gunner yeah, I dunno why you'd do Weil or K&E BK unless it's your only way to get your foot in the door at a V10 or you want to cop those K&E bonuses for a few years and then bounce. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089634) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:59 PM Author: salmon stage Yeah that's what I was thinking. Better off doing something more transferable like M&A or cap markets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089671) |
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Date: July 15th, 2012 12:16 AM Author: salmon stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089811) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:52 PM Author: trip carnelian business firm psychic I imagine that if you actually know what you're doing with BK, you'll be pretty valuable to shit firms and regional midlaw. It's specialization that carries over and some of those dudes develop good practices doing turnaround stuff and advising companies, not just battling through BKs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089609) |
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Date: July 15th, 2012 6:58 AM Author: Autistic burgundy gas station fat ankles 2700 is not bad at all if spread consistently across the year; this is basically 54 hours/week over 50 weeks. Good Top M&A lawyers also average around 2700, but they have 90 hours/week when on multiple deals and 20 hours/week (when they still have to sit in the office all day when not billing time). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21091078) |
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Date: July 14th, 2012 11:54 PM Author: wonderful national circlehead man i've given up on trying to figure out which firms have the best hours. seems to totally depend on the partner you're working for. seems like every firm, sweatshops included, has junior associates billing anywhere from below 1800 to 2400+ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21089632) |
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Date: July 15th, 2012 6:49 AM Author: brilliant multi-colored mother hell *works way longer hours than other groups* *has worst exit opps*l *is at Weil/K E bk*
Is there any financial upside at att to being in one of these bankruptcy groups? Seems like terrible hours for terrible exit opportunities. At least v10 corporate can get in house. |
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Date: July 15th, 2012 11:03 AM Author: stubborn quadroon What is the best way to get anally raped? With an ice pick, a knife or a shard of glass? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21091257) |
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Date: July 15th, 2012 11:35 AM Author: sable lay useless brakes Ice pick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#21091390) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 10:55 PM Author: twisted crusty heaven indirect expression Cravath, not close on the reg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#22054046) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 10:58 PM Author: vivacious internet-worthy blood rage son of senegal I would strongly consider killself before I worked at any of those places (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#22054073) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 11:07 PM Author: Poppy Heady Point People Who Are Hurt ti,oc,tcr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1994358&forum_id=2#22054121) |