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my favorite professor getting kicked out?

one of the better teachers at my law school will be consider...
mewling shivering native
  07/17/12
JFC, I paid tuition for this type of behind-the-scenes bu...
swashbuckling self-centered church
  07/17/12
LOL @ thinking academia has anything to do with teaching abi...
Crimson Shitlib Jewess
  07/17/12
He may be a fine teacher, but that's not scholarship!
titillating underhanded patrolman step-uncle's house
  07/17/12
his ass is gone. scholarship expectations have increased...
Obsidian cheese-eating hospital
  07/17/12
Greetings, 3+ publications in top journals is the bare mini...
Carnelian generalized bond gas station
  07/17/12
what counts as a top journal? T14 flagship? tier 1 flagship?
Electric bright indirect expression
  07/17/12
none in top journals. but i've seen people getting tenure w...
mewling shivering native
  07/17/12
Greetings, Depends on the rank of the law school, and it's ...
Carnelian generalized bond gas station
  07/17/12
this is bullshit. there are a lot of linfluential academics ...
odious cruel-hearted state
  07/17/12
they were grandfathered in. as i said, publishing standards/...
Beady-eyed Lemon National Security Agency
  07/17/12
or he might be an extension, no? people are tenured after f...
mewling shivering native
  07/17/12
I helped edit a conference edition for my law review. The t...
abnormal persian cruise ship
  07/17/12
lol, i once cited myself in a LR article. also once cited an...
Obsidian cheese-eating hospital
  07/17/12
it seems that inadequate publication record correlates with ...
Wild crackhouse
  07/17/12
Who gives a fuck, really?
racy mood brunch
  07/17/12
TCQ
lake razzle-dazzle private investor
  07/17/12
the people in question
motley philosopher-king liquid oxygen
  07/17/12
Oh captain, my captain
big insanely creepy stage
  07/17/12


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Date: July 17th, 2012 11:35 AM
Author: mewling shivering native

one of the better teachers at my law school will be considered for tenure in the coming months (granted next april i suppose)

now his publication list consists of:

1. 2 articles in low-ranking journals that he wrote before he began his tenure-track position.

2. 1 article in a third-tier law review - I think it got published only because he was invited to a conference and the law review was a conference edition

3. a short book review article that is published in a magazine, not LR.

I would be sad if he got kicked out. I have never heard of this at my school. it seems that the bar is not high.

will the works that he wrote before coming here be considered?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21107218)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 11:55 AM
Author: swashbuckling self-centered church

JFC,

I paid tuition for this type of behind-the-scenes bullshit?

What the fuck do those articles have to do with his ability to teach me promissory estoppel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21107326)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 12:09 PM
Author: Crimson Shitlib Jewess

LOL @ thinking academia has anything to do with teaching ability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21107411)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 12:09 PM
Author: titillating underhanded patrolman step-uncle's house

He may be a fine teacher, but that's not scholarship!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21107412)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 12:15 PM
Author: Obsidian cheese-eating hospital

his ass is gone.

scholarship expectations have increased dramatically in the past 5 years, even at TTTs. yes, it's BS given that most of the scholarship is intellectual masturbation at best. but that's just how it is.

teaching evaluations are almost negligible; they don't help and can only hurt. basically, as long as you don't consistently have a lot of negative reviews, they don't matter at all.

his only hope is if he is URM, politically connected or secured a huge donation for the school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21107445)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 12:16 PM
Author: Carnelian generalized bond gas station

Greetings,

3+ publications in top journals is the bare minimum nowadays for tenure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21107450)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 12:24 PM
Author: Electric bright indirect expression

what counts as a top journal? T14 flagship? tier 1 flagship?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21107504)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 12:53 PM
Author: mewling shivering native

none in top journals.

but i've seen people getting tenure without having published consistently in top LRs.

he's not URM in the hispanic/african american sense. but he is international. so he's safe maybe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21107699)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 4:55 PM
Author: Carnelian generalized bond gas station

Greetings,

Depends on the rank of the law school, and it's also a bit more elastic than I said.

I have a friend who got tenure in the past 5 years who published once in a YHS-level LR, once in a BU-level, and once in a T50.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21109111)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 2:40 PM
Author: odious cruel-hearted state

this is bullshit. there are a lot of linfluential academics who have never published in a top journal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21108323)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 3:55 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Lemon National Security Agency

they were grandfathered in. as i said, publishing standards/expectations have become much more rigorous in the past 5 years. you won't find new/young tenure-track professors not publishing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21108766)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 12:57 PM
Author: mewling shivering native

or he might be an extension, no?

people are tenured after five years at our school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21107716)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 12:21 PM
Author: abnormal persian cruise ship

I helped edit a conference edition for my law review. The topic was "complex litigation." Not trial tactics or anything, but the philosophy behind certification as a class. It was basically a bunch of academic incest. They all cited back and forth. A little club of people each citing ten people and then getting cited ten times. Makes them look prestigious when really nobody outside their club cares...at all.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21107484)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 12:23 PM
Author: Obsidian cheese-eating hospital

lol, i once cited myself in a LR article. also once cited an article that paraphrased what i said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21107493)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 2:25 PM
Author: Wild crackhouse

it seems that inadequate publication record correlates with great teaching.

e.g.

http://www.bc.edu/schools/law/fac-staff/deans-faculty/barrozop.html

how about this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21108255)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 2:37 PM
Author: racy mood brunch

Who gives a fuck, really?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21108303)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 4:48 PM
Author: lake razzle-dazzle private investor

TCQ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21109081)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 3:53 PM
Author: motley philosopher-king liquid oxygen

the people in question

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21108750)



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Date: July 17th, 2012 3:57 PM
Author: big insanely creepy stage

Oh captain, my captain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1996436&forum_id=2#21108781)