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Halp Bros--Old Law Firm Stole My Couch

I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started w...
motley greedy home
  10/04/12
take it and make him stop you
Shaky Heady Garrison Really Tough Guy
  10/04/12
Lmao!
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  10/04/12
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  10/05/12
what state?
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  10/04/12
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  10/04/12
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  10/04/12
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  10/04/12
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Splenetic Giraffe
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If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may hav...
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  10/04/12
180
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  10/04/12
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180 judgmental lay national security agency
  10/04/12
The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitl...
violent misunderstood tattoo digit ratio
  10/05/12
Couches aren't fixtures of any type.
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  10/05/12
Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shit...
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  10/05/12
This is so 180. Well done.
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  10/05/12
tyty
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  12/06/13
180 well done.
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  12/06/13
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  10/04/12
why do you steal from your employer bro?
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  10/04/12
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  10/04/12
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  10/04/12
thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer
Coral blood rage
  10/04/12
It's one of his alts
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  10/04/12
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  10/04/12
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  10/05/12
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  12/06/13
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  07/19/17
lol no not a fucking fixture. And even if it was ... ? your...
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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:28 PM
Author: motley greedy home

I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started with this firm, I purchased a couch to nap on between 2pm and 3pm each day, schedule permitting. I was packing up my office last weekend and brought a friend along to help move the couch out. The partner happened to be there and said "not so fast, that's my couch." I calmly explained I had purchased it and brought it in to the office to nap on. He called it an "abandoned fixture" and said under some county ordinance it belonged to him. Halp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21716858)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:14 PM
Author: Shaky Heady Garrison Really Tough Guy

take it and make him stop you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717732)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:50 PM
Author: Jet hairraiser station

Lmao!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719984)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 11:10 AM
Author: crusty razzmatazz bawdyhouse son of senegal



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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:32 PM
Author: Thriller orchestra pit

what state?

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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:23 PM
Author: Lake Parlor Dingle Berry

lol

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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:30 PM
Author: Concupiscible haunting house wagecucks

lol

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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:35 PM
Author: Excitant ocher tanning salon



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:39 PM
Author: transparent swashbuckling becky school

fuckin' steve

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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:17 PM
Author: crusty razzmatazz bawdyhouse son of senegal

shitlaw steve

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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:18 PM
Author: Splenetic Giraffe



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:46 PM
Author: crusty razzmatazz bawdyhouse son of senegal

If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may have a right to the furniture. The common law rule is that whatsoever is fixed to the realty is thereby made a part of the realty to which it adheres. However, the new, prevailing rule is that tenants may remove whatever they install for the purpose of carrying on a trade (i.e. trade fixtures), provided that they can be uninstalled without injury to the premises, and that such removal is effected before they yield possession of the premises. Arguably, the couch was a trade fixture--you put it in your office for the purpose of aiding you in carrying on your trade as a lawyer. Given that you can remove it without injury to the premises, and because you haven't completely yielded possession of the premises, I think you have a colorable claim that you have a right to that couch, notwithstanding any extant ordinances. The rationale behind this rule is that it is conducive to trade and commerce. The tenant installs things for the benefit of carrying on his trade, not to enhance the landlord's realty.

You should also be aware that there are other theories that may be applied to these circumstances, depending on what jurisdiction you're in. There is the institutional theory: additions to the realty become a part of an economic unit, and therefore become the landlord's property.

I sincerely xoxohth. Let me know if you have any questions or if I need to clarify or expand on anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717502)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:08 PM
Author: house-broken love of her life

180

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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:07 PM
Author: crusty razzmatazz bawdyhouse son of senegal



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: 180 judgmental lay national security agency

Lol xoxo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718995)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:11 AM
Author: violent misunderstood tattoo digit ratio

The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitlaw firm is some sort of coöp structured like a salon where you rent your own chair/office. HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720779)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 4:26 AM
Author: Know-it-all whorehouse bbw

Couches aren't fixtures of any type.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720974)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:46 AM
Author: crusty razzmatazz bawdyhouse son of senegal

Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shitlaw steve, I would bring multiple claims if I was helping OP get his couch back. The aforesaid analysis is merely a possible argument if my other more cogent arguments fail. Look at it as a sort of quasi-landlord-tenant argument, perhaps. Surely, though, there is an argument to be made under the doctrine of finders. Let’s see what that analysis would look like, shall we? The rule of finders is that the finder of property has a right to that property against all the world except the true owner or prior possessor. In this case, OP is the true owner and prior possessor. Therefore, his boss does not have a right to that property. However, bossman is claiming that OP abandoned the couch. In order for one to abandon something, there must be an act of abandonment and intent to abandon. I’ll go ahead and concede that there was an act of abandonment; there is surely an argument that there was. However, OP never intended to abandon the property, as evidenced by his return to the premises in order to retrieve said property. Therefore, the property was not abandoned. Thus, again, OP has a colorable claim that he has a right to that couch.

Again, I sincerely xoxohth. Do let me know if I need to clarify or expand on anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721355)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:05 PM
Author: topaz half-breed sandwich

This is so 180. Well done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722470)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:06 PM
Author: crusty razzmatazz bawdyhouse son of senegal

tyty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723397)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:17 PM
Author: smoky shivering address

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723458)



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Date: August 22nd, 2013 11:20 PM
Author: odious kink-friendly incel lodge

180

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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: tantric vivacious cruise ship boiling water



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:11 PM
Author: Coral blood rage

Bigfinderskeeperslaw

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Date: October 5th, 2012 7:07 AM
Author: Orange underhanded milk gas station

180 if real, 180 if not real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721095)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:39 PM
Author: crusty razzmatazz bawdyhouse son of senegal



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Date: November 28th, 2012 10:30 PM
Author: crusty razzmatazz bawdyhouse son of senegal



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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:34 AM
Author: territorial messiness yarmulke



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Date: December 6th, 2013 2:24 PM
Author: orchid apoplectic set

180 well done.

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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: Concupiscible haunting house wagecucks

Couches don't even get installed. The doctrine you're looking for here is manifestly mislaid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409172)



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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:24 PM
Author: wine dashing background story



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:09 PM
Author: bisexual gay parlour

Eh, I don't know about no couch but I'd probably be facing felony jail time if they added up all the office supplies I stole over the years.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718998)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:15 PM
Author: crusty razzmatazz bawdyhouse son of senegal

why do you steal from your employer bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719060)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:16 PM
Author: bisexual gay parlour

I just have a thing for paper clips and post-it notes. I think I'm kinda planning to build a yacht out of post-its.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719075)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: crusty razzmatazz bawdyhouse son of senegal

sweet good luck bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719119)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Coral blood rage

thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719117)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:24 PM
Author: crusty razzmatazz bawdyhouse son of senegal

It's one of his alts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719163)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:19 PM
Author: Hateful aromatic hairy legs

Flame.

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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:43 PM
Author: crusty razzmatazz bawdyhouse son of senegal

cr

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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:18 AM
Author: comical mexican hall

You are flame or the partner is a fucking idiot. In no way is a couch a fixture. In no way have you abandoned it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721248)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:08 PM
Author: deranged library clown

Fuck yo couch!

Buy another one you rich motherfucker!

Darkness is! Darkness is!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722501)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 6:42 PM
Author: crusty razzmatazz bawdyhouse son of senegal



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:59 PM
Author: gaped jap stock car



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Date: October 31st, 2026 12:34 PM
Author: #pwned



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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:29 AM
Author: odious kink-friendly incel lodge



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: Concupiscible haunting house wagecucks

Please sue. Best law suit ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409168)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: onyx tank



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:33 PM
Author: Unhinged Swollen Church Building

lol no not a fucking fixture. And even if it was ... ? your an employee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809893)



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Date: August 28th, 2021 12:54 PM
Author: Splenetic Giraffe



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Date: October 31st, 2026 2:00 PM
Author: お尻のほっぺた (βœ…πŸ‘)



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