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Udacity.com has an employment rate of .005%

Meanwhile, about 3,000 students have signed up for Udacity’s...
Boyish deranged cruise ship partner
  10/22/12
LOL at U Phoenix degrees being worth more than Udacity cours...
hideous self-centered ape
  10/22/12
well you have to pay pretty significantly for U of Phoenix d...
Boyish deranged cruise ship partner
  10/22/12
Right. You're much worse off doing UP. With Udacity, it cost...
hideous self-centered ape
  10/22/12
yeah, I guess I misread the inflection of your 'LOL'
Boyish deranged cruise ship partner
  10/22/12
You: employment rate of 0%
vengeful becky site
  10/22/12
>Still, it will be a long time before companies besides h...
Cerise Mad-dog Skullcap Puppy
  10/22/12
agree,it's complete bullshit.
Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater
  10/22/12
(doobs)
vivacious indirect expression
  10/22/12
There are so many skilled tech jobs unfilled. Hopefully ...
Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater
  10/22/12
...
hideous self-centered ape
  10/22/12
cr
vivacious indirect expression
  10/22/12
sort of sounds like the newest classes are designed to meet ...
Boyish deranged cruise ship partner
  10/22/12
Yup. This is the best educational investment you can make. G...
Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater
  10/22/12
other things is, if you're hiring, you can get alot more dat...
Boyish deranged cruise ship partner
  10/22/12
yup
Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater
  10/22/12
so how come they haven't done better than get 20 students hi...
Boyish deranged cruise ship partner
  10/22/12
My guess is that even in tech, the culture of credentialism ...
massive school cafeteria hairy legs
  10/22/12
read this the other day: "Yesterday I was in a meeti...
Boyish deranged cruise ship partner
  10/22/12
I misunderstood udacity. it's not that impressive. I thought...
Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater
  10/22/12
How much does ga cost?
hideous self-centered ape
  10/22/12
depends on the class
Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater
  10/22/12
one example http://generalassemb.ly/education/learn-web-d...
Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater
  10/22/12
$5,000 is alot of money for 1 class
Boyish deranged cruise ship partner
  10/22/12
it's about 41 bucks an hour. It's not that bad of an investm...
Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater
  10/22/12
you have to go at the class's pace, you could easily kno...
Boyish deranged cruise ship partner
  10/22/12
the class's pace for entry level students is probably on poi...
Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater
  10/22/12
yeah I don't know, not necessarily knocking it seems like...
Boyish deranged cruise ship partner
  10/22/12
I hadn't heard of general assembly, that this http://bit...
Boyish deranged cruise ship partner
  10/22/12
they've developed more specific and expensive classes. ht...
Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater
  10/22/12
the program is new, leading to several effects. many employ...
buff mad cow disease
  10/22/12
Good points, had not even thought of that.
massive school cafeteria hairy legs
  10/22/12
...
Boyish deranged cruise ship partner
  10/22/12


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Date: October 22nd, 2012 11:51 AM
Author: Boyish deranged cruise ship partner

Meanwhile, about 3,000 students have signed up for Udacity’s employer-connection program, allowing their CVs to be shared with 350 companies. Employers pay Udacity a fee for any hires made through this service. So far, about 20 students have found work partly through Udacity’s help, Thrun says. Tamir Duberstein, 24, who studied mechanical engineering in Ontario, recently got two job offers after completing six Udacity courses. He took one of the offers and now works at a software company in San Francisco.

Still, it will be a long time before companies besides high-tech start-ups trust anything other than a traditional degree. That’s why hundreds of thousands of people a year enroll in the University of Phoenix, which most students attend online. Says University of Phoenix spokesman Ryan Rauzon: “They need a degree, and that isn’t going to change anytime soon.”

400,000 total students

20/400,000 = .00005 or .005%

working with the 3,000 number gets you to .66%

thoughts:

off the top that seems pretty shitty

I think what they need to do is focus on providing remote high end temp opportunities for their students

if you've taken one of those classes and done well, that's the skill set you've demonstrated that you have



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851479)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 11:57 AM
Author: hideous self-centered ape

LOL at U Phoenix degrees being worth more than Udacity courses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851515)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 11:59 AM
Author: Boyish deranged cruise ship partner

well you have to pay pretty significantly for U of Phoenix degrees

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851526)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:01 PM
Author: hideous self-centered ape

Right. You're much worse off doing UP. With Udacity, it costs nothing and there's a chance that it will help you. UP is expensive and shameful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851539)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:02 PM
Author: Boyish deranged cruise ship partner

yeah, I guess I misread the inflection of your 'LOL'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851543)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 11:57 AM
Author: vengeful becky site

You: employment rate of 0%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851518)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:00 PM
Author: Cerise Mad-dog Skullcap Puppy

>Still, it will be a long time before companies besides high-tech start-ups trust anything other than a traditional degree. That’s why hundreds of thousands of people a year enroll in the University of Phoenix

no, that is not why.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851527)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:01 PM
Author: Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater

agree,it's complete bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851541)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:00 PM
Author: vivacious indirect expression

(doobs)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851531)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:01 PM
Author: Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater

There are so many skilled tech jobs unfilled.

Hopefully "schools" like this eliminate UofPhoenix and other scam pay for degree schools.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851536)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:02 PM
Author: hideous self-centered ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851542)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:02 PM
Author: vivacious indirect expression

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851544)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:04 PM
Author: Boyish deranged cruise ship partner

sort of sounds like the newest classes are designed to meet unfilled demand for tech jobs

http://blog.udacity.com/

Four New Classes!

Technologies change quickly. While savvy companies are quick to adapt to these changes, universities are sometimes slower to react. This discrepancy can lead to a growing gap between the skills graduates have and the skills employers need. So how do you figure out exactly what skills employers are looking for? Our thinking: work with industry leaders to teach those skills!

And that’s what we’re doing. We are working with leading academic researchers and collaborating with Google, NVIDIA, Microsoft, Autodesk, Cadence, and Wolfram to teach knowledge and skills that students will be able to put to use immediately, either in personal projects or as an employee at one of the many companies where these skills are sought after.

The classes that are opening for enrollment include:

HTML5 Game Development with Colt McAnlis and Peter Lubbers

Introduction to Parallel Programming with John Owens and David Luebke

Interactive Rendering with Eric Haines

Functional Hardware Verification with Axel Scherer and Hannes Fröhlich

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851553)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:08 PM
Author: Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater

Yup. This is the best educational investment you can make. Generalassembly.com is another one.

http://www.usv.com/jobs/ look at all these jobs for quality tech startups

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851583)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:08 PM
Author: Boyish deranged cruise ship partner

other things is, if you're hiring, you can get alot more data about the udacity student you're hiring than you can about the U Phoenix student, or the Big State U student

with U Phoenix student, or the Big State U, you get a list of classes taken and a letter grade earned

with Udacity you could get that, plus a detailed click history, do they do things early? do they wait until the last minute for everything? do they stick to a set schedule? do they comment in class forums?

there is alot more data that can be mined to predict successful hires

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851580)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:09 PM
Author: Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater

yup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851592)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:12 PM
Author: Boyish deranged cruise ship partner

so how come they haven't done better than get 20 students hired?

seems like they are dropping the ball here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851613)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:13 PM
Author: massive school cafeteria hairy legs

My guess is that even in tech, the culture of credentialism is still unfortunately strong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851619)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:19 PM
Author: Boyish deranged cruise ship partner

read this the other day:

"Yesterday I was in a meeting. I’m on the board of a company in the temp-staffing business. They provide temp staffing in almost every industry. I’m a big believer that we are moving towards an employee-less society and everyone will begin either outsourcing or hiring temps rather than deal with all the regulatory issues of hiring people."

http://www.jamesaltucher.com/2012/10/no-wonder-he-hated-me/

got me thinking, the problem is that hiring someone is too big a commitment to make from someone off of a udacity class

temp assignments are the right level of commitment for an employer to make for someone who has done well in a udacity class, they should be trying to work with companies to hiring people on a temp basis,

then people have real experience to put on resumes, and employer have an even better look at the candidates



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851655)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:16 PM
Author: Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater

I misunderstood udacity. it's not that impressive. I thought it was like generalassembly in that you take an intensive 8-24 week course on a specific tech skill and get an entry level job in that field. Udacity sounds like a good alternative to UofPheonix

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851639)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:22 PM
Author: hideous self-centered ape

How much does ga cost?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851683)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:23 PM
Author: Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater

depends on the class

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851684)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:23 PM
Author: Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater

one example

http://generalassemb.ly/education/learn-web-development/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851687)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:27 PM
Author: Boyish deranged cruise ship partner

$5,000 is alot of money for 1 class

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851729)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:30 PM
Author: Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater

it's about 41 bucks an hour. It's not that bad of an investment for something that gives you an actual skill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851751)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:39 PM
Author: Boyish deranged cruise ship partner

you have to go at the class's pace,

you could easily knock out 7-8 udacity classes in the same time frame

you also have to live in or near NYC,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851824)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:40 PM
Author: Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater

the class's pace for entry level students is probably on point. I'm sure they give you assignments to do that take up a lot of time b/w classes and with somethign like web development you can always naturally advance your skills.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851834)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:46 PM
Author: Boyish deranged cruise ship partner

yeah I don't know, not necessarily knocking it

seems like society should be able to figure out a way to take advantage of the skills of people the are smart enough to do well in these free online classes

from the article:

Meanwhile, Thrun had told his Stanford students they could take the class online if they didn’t want to attend lectures. More than three-quarters of them did so, viewing the videos from their dorms and participating as if they were thousands of miles away. Then something remarkable happened. On the midterm, the Stanford students scored a full letter grade higher on average than students had in previous years. They seemed to be learning more when they learned online. The same bump happened after they took the final.

Still, the Stanford students were not the stars of the class. At the end of the semester, not one of the course’s 400 top performers had a Stanford address.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851873)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:23 PM
Author: Boyish deranged cruise ship partner

I hadn't heard of general assembly,

that this http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/24/a-place-for-techies-to-gather/ ?

you have to be there in person? Its a $300 monthly membership? Thats not bad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851686)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:24 PM
Author: Amethyst adventurous gaming laptop theater

they've developed more specific and expensive classes.

http://generalassemb.ly/education/learn-web-development/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851696)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 5:53 PM
Author: buff mad cow disease

the program is new, leading to several effects. many employers probably aren't even aware of the program. the productivity of udacity hires hasn't been measurable so far. the traditional signaling effects of a degree are still highly valued, meaning that the most qualified candidates are still likely to pursue employment through traditional means. and maybe i'm off here, but i don't understand why a company would need to pay a fee for potential hires in this employment market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21854458)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:12 PM
Author: massive school cafeteria hairy legs

Good points, had not even thought of that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851614)



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Date: October 22nd, 2012 3:39 PM
Author: Boyish deranged cruise ship partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21853237)