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Udacity.com has an employment rate of .005%
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 11:51 AM Author: demanding magical crackhouse Meanwhile, about 3,000 students have signed up for Udacity’s employer-connection program, allowing their CVs to be shared with 350 companies. Employers pay Udacity a fee for any hires made through this service. So far, about 20 students have found work partly through Udacity’s help, Thrun says. Tamir Duberstein, 24, who studied mechanical engineering in Ontario, recently got two job offers after completing six Udacity courses. He took one of the offers and now works at a software company in San Francisco.
Still, it will be a long time before companies besides high-tech start-ups trust anything other than a traditional degree. That’s why hundreds of thousands of people a year enroll in the University of Phoenix, which most students attend online. Says University of Phoenix spokesman Ryan Rauzon: “They need a degree, and that isn’t going to change anytime soon.”
400,000 total students
20/400,000 = .00005 or .005%
working with the 3,000 number gets you to .66%
thoughts:
off the top that seems pretty shitty
I think what they need to do is focus on providing remote high end temp opportunities for their students
if you've taken one of those classes and done well, that's the skill set you've demonstrated that you have
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 11:57 AM Author: stirring prole LOL at U Phoenix degrees being worth more than Udacity courses (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851515) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 11:59 AM Author: demanding magical crackhouse well you have to pay pretty significantly for U of Phoenix degrees (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851526) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:01 PM Author: stirring prole Right. You're much worse off doing UP. With Udacity, it costs nothing and there's a chance that it will help you. UP is expensive and shameful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851539) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:02 PM Author: demanding magical crackhouse yeah, I guess I misread the inflection of your 'LOL' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851543) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 11:57 AM Author: Free-loading national security agency You: employment rate of 0% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851518) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:00 PM Author: stubborn pontificating parlor hominid >Still, it will be a long time before companies besides high-tech start-ups trust anything other than a traditional degree. That’s why hundreds of thousands of people a year enroll in the University of Phoenix
no, that is not why. |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:01 PM Author: Godawful dingle berry agree,it's complete bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851541) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:00 PM Author: clear candlestick maker fanboi (doobs) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851531) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:01 PM Author: Godawful dingle berry There are so many skilled tech jobs unfilled.
Hopefully "schools" like this eliminate UofPhoenix and other scam pay for degree schools.
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:02 PM Author: stirring prole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851542) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:02 PM Author: clear candlestick maker fanboi cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851544) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:04 PM Author: demanding magical crackhouse sort of sounds like the newest classes are designed to meet unfilled demand for tech jobs
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:08 PM Author: Godawful dingle berry Yup. This is the best educational investment you can make. Generalassembly.com is another one.
http://www.usv.com/jobs/ look at all these jobs for quality tech startups |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:08 PM Author: demanding magical crackhouse other things is, if you're hiring, you can get alot more data about the udacity student you're hiring than you can about the U Phoenix student, or the Big State U student
with U Phoenix student, or the Big State U, you get a list of classes taken and a letter grade earned
with Udacity you could get that, plus a detailed click history, do they do things early? do they wait until the last minute for everything? do they stick to a set schedule? do they comment in class forums?
there is alot more data that can be mined to predict successful hires |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:09 PM Author: Godawful dingle berry yup (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851592) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:12 PM Author: demanding magical crackhouse so how come they haven't done better than get 20 students hired?
seems like they are dropping the ball here |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:13 PM Author: hairraiser bespoke site My guess is that even in tech, the culture of credentialism is still unfortunately strong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851619) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:19 PM Author: demanding magical crackhouse read this the other day:
"Yesterday I was in a meeting. I’m on the board of a company in the temp-staffing business. They provide temp staffing in almost every industry. I’m a big believer that we are moving towards an employee-less society and everyone will begin either outsourcing or hiring temps rather than deal with all the regulatory issues of hiring people."
http://www.jamesaltucher.com/2012/10/no-wonder-he-hated-me/
got me thinking, the problem is that hiring someone is too big a commitment to make from someone off of a udacity class
temp assignments are the right level of commitment for an employer to make for someone who has done well in a udacity class, they should be trying to work with companies to hiring people on a temp basis,
then people have real experience to put on resumes, and employer have an even better look at the candidates
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:16 PM Author: Godawful dingle berry I misunderstood udacity. it's not that impressive. I thought it was like generalassembly in that you take an intensive 8-24 week course on a specific tech skill and get an entry level job in that field. Udacity sounds like a good alternative to UofPheonix (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851639) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:22 PM Author: stirring prole How much does ga cost? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851683) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:23 PM Author: Godawful dingle berry depends on the class (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851684) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:23 PM Author: Godawful dingle berry one example
http://generalassemb.ly/education/learn-web-development/ |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:27 PM Author: demanding magical crackhouse $5,000 is alot of money for 1 class (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851729) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:30 PM Author: Godawful dingle berry it's about 41 bucks an hour. It's not that bad of an investment for something that gives you an actual skill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851751) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:39 PM Author: demanding magical crackhouse you have to go at the class's pace,
you could easily knock out 7-8 udacity classes in the same time frame
you also have to live in or near NYC,
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:40 PM Author: Godawful dingle berry the class's pace for entry level students is probably on point. I'm sure they give you assignments to do that take up a lot of time b/w classes and with somethign like web development you can always naturally advance your skills. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851834) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:46 PM Author: demanding magical crackhouse yeah I don't know, not necessarily knocking it
seems like society should be able to figure out a way to take advantage of the skills of people the are smart enough to do well in these free online classes
from the article:
Meanwhile, Thrun had told his Stanford students they could take the class online if they didn’t want to attend lectures. More than three-quarters of them did so, viewing the videos from their dorms and participating as if they were thousands of miles away. Then something remarkable happened. On the midterm, the Stanford students scored a full letter grade higher on average than students had in previous years. They seemed to be learning more when they learned online. The same bump happened after they took the final.
Still, the Stanford students were not the stars of the class. At the end of the semester, not one of the course’s 400 top performers had a Stanford address.
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:23 PM Author: demanding magical crackhouse I hadn't heard of general assembly,
that this http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/24/a-place-for-techies-to-gather/ ?
you have to be there in person? Its a $300 monthly membership? Thats not bad |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:24 PM Author: Godawful dingle berry they've developed more specific and expensive classes.
http://generalassemb.ly/education/learn-web-development/ |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 5:53 PM Author: marvelous iridescent bbw church the program is new, leading to several effects. many employers probably aren't even aware of the program. the productivity of udacity hires hasn't been measurable so far. the traditional signaling effects of a degree are still highly valued, meaning that the most qualified candidates are still likely to pursue employment through traditional means. and maybe i'm off here, but i don't understand why a company would need to pay a fee for potential hires in this employment market. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21854458) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 12:12 PM Author: hairraiser bespoke site Good points, had not even thought of that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21851614) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2012 3:39 PM Author: demanding magical crackhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2087697&forum_id=2#21853237) |