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Date: May 3rd, 2013 10:42 PM Author: Razzmatazz ultramarine area I grew up in a shitty city with a single parent and a couple siblings. I attended a public school with a 40% graduation rate.
My older brother dropped out and ended up fleeing the state when some warrants went out for him.
I didn't do well in high school because I was too busy running around with hoodlums, but I graduated.
I didn't want to end up like my brother, so I enrolled in community college and took classes while I worked full-time in the types of jobs you would expect.
While my community college wasn't some amazing academic institution, it was a vast improvement from high school, and it was nice to be around new people. I did really well and ended up transferring to Big State U after I finished my ASSOCIATE'S degree.
I kept working while attending Big State U. As a result, all of my friends were coworkers. They were simple people. The height of their ambition was a promotion to assistant manager. We worked our shifts, went out afterwords, watched TV, drank cheap beer. Simple.
I continued to perform well in school. My professors were pushing me to go into some type of grad school. By this point I had matured a lot and managed to self-study for the LSAT while finishing undergrad.
I scored in the mid 170s and just applied to Big State U's law school. It didn't even cross my mind that I could go to a fancy private school. That's something that is lost on a lot of people from good backgrounds. When you grow up in shitty settings, you never even consider that you might be able to attend a school like Harvard.
After the LSAT I received a flood of fee waivers from top schools. I was confused, but figured, what the hell...might as well. A flood of acceptances followed.
I attended Y/H/S for law school. I did pretty well. While there, I met my future wife. She was a med student. She attended a boarding school and HYPS UG. So did all of her friends.
Now, several years later, we're married and successful. My wife's ambition is endless. At times it's almost exhausting. Despite having an amazing job, she tells me not to be complacent and that I should always be working towards something greater.
All of our friends are equally (or more) successful. Ibankers,executives, biglaw, doctors, a few random professors. I like them, they're bright and funny.
However, every so often I miss having normal friends and girlfriends. I miss simple jobs with no pressure. Tonight while I was out shopping I heard two store clerks talking about hanging out this weekend. "I get off at 6 tomorrow, want to meet up at Jamie's?" "Yeah, [small theatre] is having $5 movie night!" That sounded like fun. I would have loved to just been able to hang out with them. One of them was a cute redhead. Cheap jeans, a tshirt, and a stupid apron. Things could be so simple with her. She wouldn't want to talk about what boarding school we would send our future children to. Our friends wouldn't want to take insanely expensive vacations around the world. We could just be normal fucking people and do normal things.
Oh well... |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 8:00 AM Author: Talented home kitty cat indeed! and the average mid-career salary for the top ivys is like 160K!!! a YEAR! UPPPER. CLASS. SECURE.
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Date: May 3rd, 2013 10:47 PM Author: Appetizing wagecucks lol douchebag, just lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23130222) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2013 10:53 PM Author: Razzle Tank sounds like your mistake was lashing yourself to a woman too early instead of using your resources to play the field. and not just in america, but all over the place. but now you can't, because you've poured your younger-man years into a relationship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23130266) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2013 10:53 PM Author: adventurous forum I'm actually kind of living that life right now.
Meh, you just have to find the right *poor* job. Like, being a cashier would be pure torture for me, but some other ones allow you to enjoy nature and the outdoors while doing work.
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Date: May 3rd, 2013 10:55 PM Author: Bistre very tactful kitchen I am one of those store clerks. It's hell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23130277) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2013 10:58 PM Author: adventurous forum I actually enjoy it.
I don't use the full mental capacity, but I kinda don't care because tapping into that makes me a nervous wreck. you get to use a different sort of spatial intelligence esp. with forklifts...
But like, if you're in front of a ringing cash register all day, yeah, that is hell. |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:02 AM Author: amethyst chest-beating chad center LOL at using the full mental capacity as a lawyer, too. At least as a lawyer you're getting paid $160k as a first year associate (and that amount of money is a lot for a 24 year old single person) to do diligence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23131950) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:08 AM Author: greedy trump supporter pumo = not new here pumo = flame long, stupid story with several tells = pensive church |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 8:46 AM Author: dun yapping hospital water buffalo THIS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23131927) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:01 AM Author: Domesticated multi-billionaire property CR, although it's not a bad story. The least believable part is where this kid foolishly marries a doctor striver shrew. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23132082) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:32 PM Author: Rusted Flickering Temple Volcanic Crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133268) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:11 AM Author: cordovan wrinkle Nietchze predicted this scenario (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23131097) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:13 AM Author: confused nursing home Explain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23131098) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:24 AM Author: cordovan wrinkle well social mobility is connected with the decline of intelligible socio-teleo-metaphysical narratives that can provide meaning to a life. So dealing with this sort of mixture of identification with social classes is a very Nietzscheian problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23131144) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:22 AM Author: Green Aphrodisiac Hairy Legs Not me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23131136) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:24 AM Author: lavender autistic tattoo youre a chick...chick = obessed with social status, financial security, and shopping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23131143) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:59 AM Author: Green Aphrodisiac Hairy Legs Eh, one of those is right, I guess. I derive huge comfort from knowing I'll always be warm and comfortable and can even help my family out. I feel really lucky. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23131310) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:52 AM Author: Snowy talking gaping no one asked you bitch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23131269) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:32 PM Author: Electric boltzmann abode why would YOU?
you have a poor man's job (student) but live the rich man's life (wife of biglawyer)
best of both worlds |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 8:03 AM Author: Painfully honest state Flame, you dont score 170s on LSAT that route (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23131892) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:05 AM Author: amethyst chest-beating chad center Would you rather have your kids go to these "douchey" private schools, or have the upbringing you had?
I can understand wanting to hang out with people who are simpler in terms of what makes them happy in life, but I'd never want my children to have the marked disadvantages I had in life if I grew up that poor.
I guess the life you described your wife has (lots of professionals, boarding schools, fancy vacations) is a hell of a lot closer to my life than the life you described you had as a child, so I can't relate to the idea of *not* applying to Harvard or what it's like to hang out with people who work at restaurants. |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:09 AM Author: provocative dilemma reading party That's pretty impressive you overcame the odds and all that, but I wouldn't romanticize it. Think about all the times you could have made a single decision that might have permafucked you.
I was much less poor that you -- middle class as defined in flyover country -- and going to a good UG and elite LS was my first exposure to kids whose parents (1) invested a fuckload in making sure their kids would have the best grades, best test scores, and best opportunities, and (2) sheltered them from anything that could push them off this track. Ultimately that's what you're competing against, and for every success story like yours there are probably 10 where someone of similar intelligence and drive never "made it."
I really don't look forward to raising kids. |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:35 PM Author: Razzmatazz ultramarine area Yeah, you're right. It's not that I actually want to go back to that or that I want to raise my kids that way. I'm happy with my life. Sometimes I just feel a little worn out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133001) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:06 PM Author: amethyst chest-beating chad center Interesting. I grew up middle class in a suburb of a mid-sized city and most people made sure their kids had the best opportunities. Some kids were slackers, but in my public school you were considered a slacker if you only got into the flagship state school. I grew up thinking Dartmouth was a safety school that the popular kids settled on.
Going to an undergrad with "wealthy" kids was the first time I was exposed to kids whose parents DIDN'T give a fuck about what they did because they assumed that their kids would either marry well (if they were girls) or take over the family business (if they were doods). |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:08 PM Author: Excitant church are you from California? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133174) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:09 PM Author: amethyst chest-beating chad center Fuck no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133182) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:13 PM Author: Excitant church sry. your narrative just sounds south-bay-area esque. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133196) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:38 PM Author: confused nursing home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133019) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:40 PM Author: Excitant church even if flame, pretty depressing / accurate commentary on the dehumanizing striverdom requirements of upper middle class life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133026) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:00 PM Author: amethyst chest-beating chad center I thought the opposite. It was pretty depressing commentary on the dehumanizing aspects of living a prole life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133128) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:04 PM Author: Excitant church what about it is dehumanizing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133150) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:09 PM Author: amethyst chest-beating chad center I guess the way the OP idealizes proledom makes me fear for the success of the human race. I know it's flame, but the OP gave me the heebie-jeebies when he said his life would be better with Trashy Apron Girl.
Normal people enjoy having more money and having more money makes people happier and able to enjoy life more. Those "insanely expensive" vacations the OP makes fun of are actually a good time. Sending kids to a good private school (or even living in a 180 public school district) is a good thing. Being around your peers instead of sinking to the lowest common denominator usually makes someone happier. |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:14 PM Author: Excitant church i agree to an extent but i think that boundless materialism makes for fucked up people, mental illness, distorted values. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133201) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:20 PM Author: amethyst chest-beating chad center I think extremes in general make for fucked up people, mental illness and distorted values. Trashy Apron Girl and a single parent upbringing where Big State U is rainbow's end is pretty fucking distorted as well.
More money generally makes people happier, not more neurotic. And it's human nature to compete with your peers, whether you're prole, striver, or somewhere inbetween.
But I don't have any proles in my circle of friends so I have nothing to compare it to. Some people came from more disadvantaged backgrounds, but no one currently identifies or has any nostalgia for their prole upbringing. |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:43 PM Author: mahogany stage I'll take your money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133047) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:57 PM Author: charismatic fuchsia box office what was your ACT? you must have known all along that you were smart (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133105) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:18 PM Author: mentally impaired international law enforcement agency Only HLS would admit a prole like you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133211) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:36 PM Author: Rusted Flickering Temple Volcanic Crater The obvious answer is to have an affair with the red head cashier. Surprised it took so long for anyone to mention this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133290) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:41 PM Author: amethyst chest-beating chad center Because he's idealizing her situation. I think being prole reminds the OP of his youth when he had simpler concerns. He's now an adult and he just misses being a kid. He doesn't actually miss being a prole, and if he spent more than an hour with the trashy redhead, he'd realize he had absolutely nothing in common with that life anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133319) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:45 PM Author: Rusted Flickering Temple Volcanic Crater I said he should have an affair, not marry her. A little dumpster diving never hurt anyone. He'd reconnect with the better parts of his past while still living the life of a boring shithead striver. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133331) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:48 PM Author: amethyst chest-beating chad center You really think that being raised by a single parent and hanging around with uneducated lowlifes was the "better part" of his past? He is the person he is DESPITE his SPS upbringing.
I'm saying that even trying to have an affair with the cashier would make the OP realize that he doesn't relate to those people anymore, and his vision of the prole utopia would be shattered.
His life now is normal. It's not boring, or shithead, or striver. It's just the life of a normal, employed, educated adult. |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:54 PM Author: Rusted Flickering Temple Volcanic Crater Did you take your fibercon today? I don't think you could any more boring. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246773&forum_id=2#23133354) |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 3:09 PM Author: amethyst chest-beating chad center I don't find anything interesting about suffering.
I've been through situations where I don't have that much money, and my life is much more interesting when I have the money and time to do what the fuck I want to do. |
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Date: May 4th, 2013 2:56 PM Author: Impressive big site tl;dr
i use to be a poor but i dont miss it
however, i rememeber how resourceful i was when i had to count every penny |