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What's the point of 3D printed guns?

Why not just buy one in the store? As a bonus, the barrel wi...
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
to prove a point. if anyone can print a gun at home, what's...
gay potus
  05/06/13
Huh? You can always make it illegal to own a 3D printed gun,...
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
the point is that even if you ban the sale of assault weapon...
gay potus
  05/06/13
It's still just as illegal though. Isn't that the big compla...
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
yes, criminals and anyone else who wants a gun will be able ...
gay potus
  05/06/13
So how does this change anything? It's not like guns are par...
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
obviously banning guns only makes them more difficult to obt...
gay potus
  05/06/13
So if you make guns illegal, these otherwise "law abidi...
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
so if you make alcohol illegal, these otherwise "law ab...
gay potus
  05/06/13
I mean, that's the argument I keep hearing against gun laws ...
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
"It's still just as illegal though." So is shoo...
vigorous theatre
  05/06/13
If your point is that gun laws don't actually reduce or prev...
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
currently you cant 3d print a whole gun because plastic barr...
crystalline stead people who are hurt
  05/06/13
no, they did it a few days ago http://www.forbes.com/site...
gay potus
  05/06/13
so you can stick it to the libs for trying to take ARE GUNS!...
vivacious resort
  05/06/13
Two factors: 1. It's cool as hell. You're printing a plas...
Startled public bath half-breed
  05/06/13
What point does this prove?
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
Effective gun control is impossible, so the whole movement i...
Sepia station
  05/06/13
Are you saying it's NBD if we make it illegal to own guns, s...
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
The reasoning is that it's dumb to make laws that can't be e...
Sepia station
  05/06/13
Couldn't you enforce the law by arresting anyone who's caugh...
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
How do you plan to catch them?
Sepia station
  05/06/13
You don't have to "plan" anything. As soon as some...
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
The gun rights crowd picture themselves only using guns in c...
Sepia station
  05/06/13
So the line that "if you make guns illegal, only crimin...
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
It's technically true (if owning a gun is a crime...), but a...
Sepia station
  05/06/13
What if you pass a law outlawing possession of guns that are...
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
Not really, just like they have no unique use now. It's just...
Sepia station
  05/06/13
The idea is to make it virtually impossible to ban guns beca...
Startled public bath half-breed
  05/06/13
If this technology makes gun laws irrelevant, then it should...
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
this is bizarre logic, I don't even know what you're going f...
Startled public bath half-breed
  05/06/13
But I keep hearing about how criminals can obtain guns in sp...
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
plastic guns are easier to get thru metal detectors, no?
Cerebral yellow turdskin
  05/06/13
So the advantage to 3D printed guns is that you can sneak th...
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
yeah. there's an undetectable weapons law so the defense di...
gay potus
  05/06/13
oh shit, there's someone in my house and it's 3 am. better f...
Big prole
  05/06/13
Also, better 3D print some plastic ammo unless it's inconcei...
onyx crackhouse patrolman
  05/06/13
Scariest sound in the dark: shotgun racking Second scarie...
vigorous theatre
  05/06/13


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Date: May 6th, 2013 8:59 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

Why not just buy one in the store? As a bonus, the barrel will be made out of metal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147157)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 8:59 PM
Author: gay potus

to prove a point. if anyone can print a gun at home, what's the point of banning them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147167)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:01 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

Huh? You can always make it illegal to own a 3D printed gun, just like how you can make it illegal to own a glock.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147176)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:03 PM
Author: gay potus

the point is that even if you ban the sale of assault weapons or 30 round magazines or pass any of the other proposed laws, there's will soon be an easy way around them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147182)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:04 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

It's still just as illegal though. Isn't that the big complaint about gun laws - that if guns are illegal only criminals will own guns?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147196)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:14 PM
Author: gay potus

yes, criminals and anyone else who wants a gun will be able to get them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147277)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:15 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

So how does this change anything? It's not like guns are particularly difficult to obtain in Chicago for example. They're just difficult to obtain LEGALLY.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147289)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:23 PM
Author: gay potus

obviously banning guns only makes them more difficult to obtain for law abiding citizens. criminals would find ways to get them even if they were banned. now with the advent of 3D printing, regular citizens who have no interest in killing other people but enjoy or are intrigued by guns can print one in the safety and privacy of their own home.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147375)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:24 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

So if you make guns illegal, these otherwise "law abiding" people will break the law and obtain guns?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147386)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:24 PM
Author: gay potus

so if you make alcohol illegal, these otherwise "law abiding" people will break the law and drink alcohol?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147393)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:27 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

I mean, that's the argument I keep hearing against gun laws - that if you ban guns, you make law abiding citizens vulnerable to criminals with guns. I didn't realize that gun laws ACTUALLY REDUCE THE AVAILABILITY OF GUNS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147417)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:44 PM
Author: vigorous theatre

"It's still just as illegal though."

So is shooting up malls, schools, and movie theaters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147596)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:48 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

If your point is that gun laws don't actually reduce or prevent crimes, then 3D printers don't really change anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147636)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:06 PM
Author: crystalline stead people who are hurt

currently you cant 3d print a whole gun because plastic barrels are not strong enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147210)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:07 PM
Author: gay potus

no, they did it a few days ago

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/05/03/this-is-the-worlds-first-entirely-3d-printed-gun-photos/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147224)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:00 PM
Author: vivacious resort

so you can stick it to the libs for trying to take ARE GUNS!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147173)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:02 PM
Author: Startled public bath half-breed

Two factors:

1. It's cool as hell. You're printing a plastic gun that works with some designs you found on the internet

2. To prove a political point. The UTLaw bro doing this is a libertarian market anarchist type, but less Ron Paul and more Proudhon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147178)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:03 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

What point does this prove?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147181)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:07 PM
Author: Sepia station

Effective gun control is impossible, so the whole movement is a waste of effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147226)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:09 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

Are you saying it's NBD if we make it illegal to own guns, since people can still print their own guns?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147236)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:10 PM
Author: Sepia station

The reasoning is that it's dumb to make laws that can't be enforced.

Note that I'm only describing other people's perspective, not agreeing with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147247)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:11 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

Couldn't you enforce the law by arresting anyone who's caught with a gun?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147250)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:11 PM
Author: Sepia station

How do you plan to catch them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147256)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:13 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

You don't have to "plan" anything. As soon as someone uses the damn thing, he's given you all the evidence you need to lock his ass up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147271)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:23 PM
Author: Sepia station

The gun rights crowd picture themselves only using guns in cases where they'd be dead otherwise, so prison as an alternative to death seems like a fair trade.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147382)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:25 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

So the line that "if you make guns illegal, only criminals will own guns" is a crock of shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147399)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:27 PM
Author: Sepia station

It's technically true (if owning a gun is a crime...), but an exaggeration in implications (the percentage of gun owners who plan to use guns for other crimes will increase, but not to 100).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147426)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:30 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

What if you pass a law outlawing possession of guns that aren't stamped with a serial number? Would otherwise law abiding citizens have any use for 3D printed guns in this scenario?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147440)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:31 PM
Author: Sepia station

Not really, just like they have no unique use now. It's just a fun, new toy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147452)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:08 PM
Author: Startled public bath half-breed

The idea is to make it virtually impossible to ban guns because the information to very easily create them will be available to everyone. Same for magazines and other gun parts which are more likely to be banned. They named a printed hicap AK mag "The Feinstein Mag".



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147233)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:09 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

If this technology makes gun laws irrelevant, then it should be no problem if we go ahead and make it illegal to own guns.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147239)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:11 PM
Author: Startled public bath half-breed

this is bizarre logic, I don't even know what you're going for here

He's providing a type of failsafe in case they begin to crack down on gun related liberties. A digital "fuck you". It's not all that complicated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147253)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:12 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

But I keep hearing about how criminals can obtain guns in spite of the law. That implies that even if you ban guns, people who want them can still can obtain them.

Isn't that WHY gun laws are supposedly ineffective? Because even in places like Chicago people can still easily obtain guns?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147264)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:03 PM
Author: Cerebral yellow turdskin

plastic guns are easier to get thru metal detectors, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147180)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:03 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

So the advantage to 3D printed guns is that you can sneak them into airports and courthouses?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147187)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:04 PM
Author: gay potus

yeah. there's an undetectable weapons law so the defense distributed doods who are manufacturing them add a piece of metal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147194)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:40 PM
Author: Big prole

oh shit, there's someone in my house and it's 3 am. better fire up my 3-d printer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147538)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:44 PM
Author: onyx crackhouse patrolman

Also, better 3D print some plastic ammo unless it's inconceivable that ammo could be outlawed too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147582)



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Date: May 6th, 2013 9:46 PM
Author: vigorous theatre

Scariest sound in the dark: shotgun racking

Second scariest sound in the dark: that dot matrix sound

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2249095&forum_id=2#23147613)