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REMINDER: Hitler was an atheist
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Date: June 4th, 2013 12:15 PM Author: Aggressive feces Born to a practicing Catholic mother and an anticlerical father, after leaving home, Hitler never again attended Mass or received the sacraments.[344][345][346] Speer states that Hitler made harsh pronouncements against the church to his intimates. Though Hitler never officially left the church, he had no attachment to it.[347] He adds that Hitler felt that in the absence of the church the faithful would turn to mysticism, which he considered a step backwards.[347] Historian John S. Conway states that Hitler was fundamentally opposed to the Christian churches.[348] According to Bullock, Hitler did not believe in God, was anticlerical, and held Christian ethics in contempt because they contravened his preferred view of "survival of the fittest."[349] Hitler viewed Protestant clergy as insignificant and submissive.[350] While hostile to its teachings, he had admiration for the power of the Roman Church.[351] He favoured aspects of Protestantism that suited his own views, and adopted some elements of the Catholic Church's hierarchical organisation, liturgy, and phraseology in his politics.[352] Hitler viewed the church as an important politically conservative influence on society,[353] and he adopted a strategic relationship with it "that suited his immediate political purposes."[348] In public, Hitler often praised Christian heritage and German Christian culture, though professing a belief in an "Aryan" Jesus—one who fought against the Jews.[354] However, any pro-Christian public rhetoric was at variance with his personal beliefs, which described Christianity as "absurdity"[355] and humbug founded on lies[356] with which he could "never come personally to terms."[357] He considered Christianity a religion fit only for slaves.[351] According to a US Office of Strategic Services report, "The Nazi Master Plan," Hitler planned to destroy the influence of Christian churches within the Reich.[358][359] His eventual goal was the total elimination of Christianity.[360] This goal informed Hitler's movement very early on, but he saw it as inexpedient to express this extreme position publicly.[361] According to Bullock, Hitler wanted to wait until after the war before executing this plan.[351] Speer wrote that Hitler had a negative view of Himmler and Alfred Rosenberg's mystical notions and Himmler's attempt to mythologise the SS. Hitler was more pragmatic, and his ambitions centred on more practical concerns.[362][363]
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Date: June 4th, 2013 12:18 PM Author: smoky big church building I hear Hitler also drank water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23328619) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 12:21 PM Author: Aggressive feces Out of history's worst men, Hitler is the one that atheists try to pin up on the other side by selectively quoting some public statements of his. Just clearing up a common misconception here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23328641) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 12:23 PM Author: black giraffe Missing the point. Hes not saying atheism is to blame but that Christianity is not. You hear dumbasses all the time blame the holocaust on Christians persecuting jews or making references of that sort. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23328654) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 12:24 PM Author: Violent selfie piazza anyone who believes that shouldnt have the right to share their opinions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23328666) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 12:26 PM Author: black giraffe A lot of people think this bro.
They also think the Spanish Inquisition was this way. In reality the only real religious persecution in the Inquisition was against Protestants. The converso/jew/muslim part was more about ethnic cleansing of Spain. |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 7:47 PM Author: mischievous place of business I don't know anyone who thinks this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23330850) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 12:27 PM Author: Aggressive feces There is an incredible amount of poor argument that Hitler was a Christian. In fact, I think it took years of Wikipedia flame wars before it was remotely as coherent as the excerpt above. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23328687) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 12:19 PM Author: Claret fear-inspiring yarmulke Yeah, but even 180 dudes make mistakes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23328622) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 12:22 PM Author: Walnut institution sweet tailpipe No he was right about this as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23328649) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 12:26 PM Author: black giraffe About the jew part??? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23328675) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 12:35 PM Author: Walnut institution sweet tailpipe No, right about atheism. He should has gassed shitlibs, not Jews. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23328737) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 12:49 PM Author: black giraffe Gotcha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23328800) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 12:19 PM Author: zombie-like lodge organic girlfriend Also a vegetarian and a dog lover. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23328625) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 9:11 PM Author: titillating rusted parlor he was a vegetarian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23331232) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 10:37 PM Author: red swashbuckling theater stage Correction: he hated Jewish dogs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23331698) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 12:25 PM Author: black giraffe The problem is once you know that he was an atheist you start to ask why he went after the jews, because obviously it wasn't just blind religious bigotry...and that leads to moar questions. And you aren't allowed to ask questions about the holocaust. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23328669) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 12:59 PM Author: Exciting cobalt space why would him being an atheist support a view that he wasn't motivated by religious bigotry?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 1:04 PM Author: black giraffe The PC narrative is always Christians bad!!! And no one looks for further motivation. Thats enough.
But if he was an enlightened Atheist...did he have reasons for his anti-semitism? And that starts the questions you aren't allowed to ask. |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 1:55 PM Author: Exciting cobalt space i don't many people who have even a shallow understanding of nazism think of it as a christian movement. however, you can't separate christianity for european anti-semitism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23329103) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 1:02 PM Author: Translucent Arrogant Legal Warrant you are making me feel uncomfortable! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23328866) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 8:56 PM Author: Frozen patrolman trailer park He didn't view Jews as a religion; he viewed them as an ethnicity, and one inferior to the Aryan race. That's why he - unlike those running the Spanish Inquisition - didn't care if someone converted from Judaism or denounced their religion entirely. If they had Jewish blood, he wanted to gas them. Evil as it gets.
And you're allowed to ask questions all you want. What you can't do is imply that ethnic genocide is ever justifiable. Which is as it should be. If there's anything we should be PC about, it's this. |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 9:07 PM Author: Milky boyish parlour pocket flask *wonders how the "6 million jews" statistic became convential wisdom*
*gets executed for "implying" that genocide is justifiable* |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 9:14 PM Author: mischievous place of business pretty sure it was more than that he viewed them as inferior. he viewed them as leeches that needed to be destroyed. he obviously could have just marginalized them -- he had the power to do that considering he had the power to kill them by the millions. but he knew eventually they would worm their way back into power, perhaps after he was gone. that's why they called it the final solution, lil breh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23331244) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 10:01 PM Author: light dashing incel market gassing joos is not 'evil' retard. Think of it as like getting rid of another type of parasite, like termites or cancer or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23331480) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 10:43 PM Author: black giraffe LJL at 15th/16th century Spain "accepting" jew and muslim converts. The whole point was they wanted to get rid of ethnic jews and moors. So they took away all of their civil rights if they didn't convert and then used the church to prosecute them for "false conversions."
Also everything everyone said above in this subthread about the holocaust. |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 7:46 PM Author: mischievous place of business His views on christianity are basically right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23330841) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 7:47 PM Author: mind-boggling scarlet keepsake machete (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23330848) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 10:02 PM Author: light dashing incel market nice to see an old moniker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23331484) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 10:04 PM Author: mind-boggling scarlet keepsake machete Probably not who you think it is. I'm the poaster formerly known as library bathroom holocaust and his name is tamerlan tzarnev (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23331491) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 7:49 PM Author: Razzmatazz national Protip: most atheists claim theyre humanists but are in fact nihilists (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23330865) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 7:50 PM Author: flushed unhinged native volcanic crater Atheism has caused more deaths in world history than all religions combined. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23330869) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 9:47 PM Author: Stimulating Sandwich Center Does this bort have legitimate Holocaust deniers now?
I guess the casual linking to Stormfront should have been a tipoff. |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 10:36 PM Author: Frozen patrolman trailer park on the internet its hard to tell the difference between an actual holocaust denier and a bad troll. I hope it's the latter because xo has always attracted its share of bad trolls... but the percentage of dumbs is beginning to get alarmingly high. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23331691) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 10:39 PM Author: Milky boyish parlour pocket flask (paid ADL lobbyist) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23331713) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 10:44 PM Author: black giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23331742) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 10:44 PM Author: black giraffe *ask questions about holocaust*
*is labeled a klansman* |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 9:51 PM Author: slap-happy apoplectic ladyboy box office so are a lot of other visionaries (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2273354&forum_id=2#23331439) |