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NYU TRANSFERS: I hate you all
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:43 AM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker I don't like this business of you getting 32-36 interviews while the average NYU'er gets 27-30. If I see a transfer in my class this year there's no way in hell I'll help him or her out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644744) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:45 AM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena why do you feel more entilted to things than them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644747) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:46 AM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker B/C they choked on the LSAT and I didn't. B/C they got to go to a TTT get good grades and come out looking good and I didn't. B/C they're all gunners and I'm not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644752) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:53 AM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena LSAT results are irrelevant at this stage of the game. The sooner you figure that out and stop whining, the better off you'll be. Going to a TTT doesnt guarantee good grades. And, not all transfers are gunners.
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:55 AM Author: motley sooty jap therapy Nothing is guaranteed, but I really would like to see some data on where people with LSAT and gpas comfortably above a school's 75th end up after 1L. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644797) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:00 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena LSAT/GPAs are good predictors, but not perfect. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644826) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:03 PM Author: motley sooty jap therapy I believe I began my sentence with, "Nothing is guaranteed, but..." You're citing one study that you haven't read, and which studied LSAT and GPA data top to bottom. I would like to see a study of those students with a gpa at least .1 over and an LSAT at least 1 point over the 75th, that's all. |
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Date: September 1st, 2008 8:00 PM Author: abnormal athletic conference Subtle pro-affirmative action troll (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#10118231) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:17 PM Author: Chocolate Stage BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:47 AM Author: motley sooty jap therapy I would imagine the reason someone may feel entitled to better treatment from career services may be related to the ~$40,000 he's given to the school. And the fact that he actually has taken classes at the school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644756) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:48 AM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch They're not real students at the school for starters.
They essentially coasted at easier schools and yet receive all the benefits the real NYU students worked so hard to get. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:50 AM Author: cyan odious kitty cat We're just as 'real' as the regs. Just because you lucked out in the intial admissions process (which is highly imperfect) doesn't make you entitled to anything. It's your crappy attitude of entitlement that will get you dinged at firms, not transfer students. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644768) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:51 AM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker hahaha "lucked out" in the initial admissions process? Spoken like a true TTT who got accepted NOWHERE. Don't show up to EIW you rancid TTT in decline. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644776) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:52 AM Author: cyan odious kitty cat Listen, if you're serious, then please come talk to me after EIW. I'll be happy to tell you about all my offers as I'm removing my boot from your ass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644781) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:53 AM Author: Cobalt preventive strike trust fund The funny thing is that he probably would've been equally pissed off if he stayed at Fordham and had to interview alongside transfers from Cooley. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644782) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:54 AM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch absolutely (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644793) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:54 AM Author: Maize Shivering Brethren This is why I don't like transfers: NYU's class is already too large. It's already hard to get into a lot of the classes you want. By the time you get to 3L, at least, these transfers are taking up spots in the classes YOU want.
I have to say, the Sexual Chocolate poster is a bit annoying. All of a sudden he seems to think he's god's gift to the planet because he got into NYU. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:56 AM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch Really. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644802) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:56 AM Author: vermilion native I think you are God's gift to the planet. Not because you got into NYU, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644805) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:56 AM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena You dont think its luck that you're at NYU and he is not, even though he would have kicked your ass in terms of GPA? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644803) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:00 PM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker What? I had a 3.98 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644823) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:01 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena At NYU law? Why dont you transfer to harvard or yale? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644833) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:02 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat That's UG, right? If so, I bet my LSAT was higher than yours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644839) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:05 PM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker 174. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644857) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:06 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat Bull fucking shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644869) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:09 PM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker Fine, 162. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644896) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:10 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena You better not be an AA admit who is bitching about tranfers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644903) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:11 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat Is this right?! Which one is it? I am fairly certain my LSAT score was better than yours. I know for a fact my grades are better than yours. Final verdict: I win, you lose. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644908) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:14 PM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker I got a fucking 174 you stupid bitch. What the fuck do you want from me? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644934) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:15 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena Well, at least you had one good day. Good luck holding onto that for the rest of your life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644939) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:19 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat I want you to shut the fuck up and get rid of your shitty sense of entitlement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644965) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:24 PM Author: razzle rusted black woman Sheesh, you weren't kidding earlier you said that the transfer process was a shitty thing to go through. I thought that NYU was one of the friendlier schools, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644992) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:28 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat The school itself has been great...the students have been terrible. When I got into Michigan, ALL of the the UM posters were congratulatory and encouraged me to come. Even fuckin inin, for Christ's sake. The NYU posters have been douchebags for the most part...clapyourhands and Earl being notable exceptions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645014) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:53 PM Author: fantasy-prone generalized bond church building I've got nothing against you. :) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645130) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:58 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat Thanks, I appreciate it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645158) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 1:39 PM Author: fantasy-prone generalized bond church building Changed my mind. I have nothing against you because you transferred. However, you come off like a real dick in this thread. I hope you were either having a bad day or were taking advantage of anonymity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645404) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:48 PM Author: Flirting piazza scourge upon the earth The other posters were dicks to him...this thread is all about hating transfers...shouldn't we be a bit defensive? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3649497) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:27 PM Author: coiffed den you seem to the one who comes off with a sense of entitlement. So you did well in your first 6-7 classes of LS. Do you really think it relates to how you will perform as a lawyer. This game just keeps starting over and maybe next time you wont come out doing so hot.
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:32 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat Not a sense of entitlement - a sense of accomplishment. I'm proud of what I achieved and where I am going. I look forward to working my ass off at NYU and at my firm when I get there.
"So you did well in your first 6-7 classes of LS. Do you really think it relates to how you will perform as a lawyer."
Well, both the law school and the firms certainly do. I defer to their judgment on the matter.
I d not think I deserve anything more than the respect accorded to any reguler NYU student. In no way do I deserve to be shit on by some mediocre NYU student, who probably would have been mediocre at any law school he went to. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:36 PM Author: coiffed den you should be proud just turn it down a thousand.
I know people here with 3.8s and LR who dont walk around with half your 'tude, man.
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:46 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat My 'tude is that I am just as good as any other normal NYU student. That's not really a fucking 'tude man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645094) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:49 PM Author: coiffed den no, what you are saying is that you are better than the normal (read: average 3.1-3.2) NYU student. That is something we'll never know.
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Date: August 21st, 2005 5:05 PM Author: hot arousing stead filthpig Subject: I haven't been following the news, I guess. I thought you were going to Michigan, SC. Did you hear from NYU late, or something?
Anyway, double congrats on your 1L performance at my alma mater. I envy the piss out of you--particularly because NYU is like three blocks away from my house. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:35 PM Author: Maize Shivering Brethren I think a certain sense of entitlement is okay when you paid $35K to your school for 1L.
Transfers did NOT pay $35K for 1L at NYU> |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:37 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat Your $35K on entitles you to the bargain you struck with the school. Nothing more, nothing less. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645050) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 8:56 AM Author: godawful library The whole popint of the GPA LSAT measure is to determine success in law school. If a student does particularly well in law school, there's absolutely no fucking reason he or she shouldn't trasnfer up if the school wants them.
This whole thread started as a whiny "this is my turf" post. If someone has a problem with transfers, they should talk to their admissions departm,ent or find a school that doesn't allow many.
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:09 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena Then your LSAT score was a bad predictor of your performance in LS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644897) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:52 AM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch No you're not.
You had TTT grades and ended up at an inferior school. You excelled against inferior competition, and now want all the benefits of an NYU degree without having to compete for them 1st year (and as anyone will agree, the only year that matters) against real NYU students. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:54 AM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker agreed. No one cares how many offers you're getting. You'll always be looked down upon by your fellow students. Riding our coattails, eh? hth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644791) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:02 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena Who gives a shit what you think. Law firms love us, so go fuck yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644837) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:54 AM Author: cyan odious kitty cat Listen, if you know how to take a LS exam at Fordham you know how to take one at NYU. The chances are great that we would have done well at either school. As well? probably not. But well enough to get the same offers (taking into account the fact that firms will dig deeper into the class at our new school)? Most likely, yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644795) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:56 AM Author: Maize Shivering Brethren Dude...I just don't think you understand about curves and how fucking smart everyone at NYU is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644804) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:57 AM Author: cyan odious kitty cat What year are you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644809) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:58 AM Author: Maize Shivering Brethren 3L (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644814) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:58 AM Author: olive awkward space This made me laugh.
This is the mentality of virtually every NYU student I've ever met, (UG and Grad) now it's LS students too.
God I'm glad I didn't go. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:00 PM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker You mean you're glad you didn't get in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644827) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:02 PM Author: olive awkward space To NYU undergrad - didn't bother applying after two visits.
NYU Law School (never taken an LSAT so I have no idea. my guess is no i wouldn't have a shot in hell)
your attitudes suck. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:03 PM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker ahhhhh so what you're saying is, you got into neither. Gotcha. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644844) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:05 PM Author: olive awkward space yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644861) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 9:03 AM Author: godawful library Quit being a cocksucker. This T14 bullshit is the most tired fucking thing on this board. Getting into NYU rather than Fordham doesn't mean you're going to be a better lawyer. If your attitude reeks of this kind of pussy one-upmanship, interviewers and coworkers are going to detect it.
For the fiftieth time I refer everyone to the Dale and Krueger studies on top schools versus good state schools. No difference in earnings for similar credentialed students except for black males. PERIOD. Those of you who think you're wheels are pre-greased because you took the seventy thousand in debt over the free ride at a lower-ranked school are in for a rude awakening. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 11:22 AM Author: exciting demanding roommate Krueger was for undergrad, though, not grad and professional schools
There is a very big difference. Elitism in law schools is pompous and can get annoying after a while. The actual quality in education you'll get is little different if not inferior.
But there is a very big difference when it comes to job prospects, which is almost always the sole reason a person would transfer from Fordham to NYU - I'm not saying you should like it. I'm not even saying it's a good thing. But people are going 70k in debt for much less prestigious private law schools - when they plop down that money, people shouldn't hedge/it ought to be made clear to them just how big a difference the school means. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 1:36 PM Author: godawful library Tell me where I can find the job prospect info. I'm not being a prick, I just want to see it. I know that schools differ in employment at graduation quite a bit, but the argument by D and K isn't about schools not differing in quality.
I am trying to figure out exactly how big of a difference exists.
Still, Dale and Krueger aren't so much discussing differences in schools as differences in applicants. If a 3.7 170 takes a full-ride at Loyola rather than admission to a T14, will they make less money over a career?
My gut says no, but I'd love to be shown contradicting information.
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 1:41 PM Author: Coral soul-stirring orchestra pit mediation Start a thread on this and someone will give you the info you want. Almost nobody is going to see this request burried in this thread.
Law school and undergrad are NOTHING alike when it comes to the significance of the school you attended. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 1:52 PM Author: yapping histrionic range Except that's not what Dale and Krueger say. When you group schools into tiers based on prestige, a guy with a 1500 SAT score attending the top prestige tier will have higher earnings than another guy with a 1500 SAT score attending a lower prestige tier. The only time there is no difference between the 1500 scorers is if you group schools based on SAT medians instead, which isn't how anyone ranks schools because a lot of TTT LACs that no one has heard of have SAT medians higher than even some Ivies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3652362) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 1:49 PM Author: yapping histrionic range Actually, if you read the full text of the Dale and Krueger study, you'll see that there is no difference in earnings when you group schools based on SAT medians, BUT there is a significant difference in earnings even among similarly credentialed students when you group schools based on prestige. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3652322) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:04 PM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch So you're not in law school, and have no idea that VNG is absolutely right.
People who had 3.8's and 171's from Harvard go into schools like CCN and get PWN3D, much less students of Fordham quality. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:05 PM Author: olive awkward space I never stated anything about LS. NYU in general. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644859) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:06 PM Author: olive awkward space as far as being intelligent yes i agree that they are probably of high intellect.
do i think they are for some reason better people because of this, absolutely not. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:08 PM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch Employers do, and that's all that matters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644881) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:01 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat They have terrible attitudes. Such feelings of entitlement. Again, that is what will get them dinged at firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644828) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:01 PM Author: Maize Shivering Brethren I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that every student at NYU is really smart. Of course this no doubt applies to all the students at Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago, Michigan, Penn, UVA, etc.....
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:03 PM Author: olive awkward space I think they are all intelligent in their studies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644843) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:05 PM Author: Maize Shivering Brethren If you mean they also suck, probably have no common sense, and definitely have no social skills, this is also true.
It's just annoying when someone who gets top grades at a lower ranked school is so sure that he would've done as well at NYU.
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:07 PM Author: olive awkward space Ok we agree completely. on the first topic.
second - no knowledge for opinion. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:57 AM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch Listen, if you know how to take a LS exam at Fordham you know how to take one at NYU. The chances are great that we would have done well at either school.
You've got to be kidding. Never mind the fact that you're competing against an inferior group of students on a forced curve. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:04 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Charismatic Cuckoldry Reading Party If this SexualChocolate fella ends up with a better firm job than you after EIW (OCI, whatever), then he played the game of life better than you did. Simple as that. If you had busted your ass a little more and gotten better 1L grades you wouldn't be complaining.
SexualChocolate may very well have been able to go to NYU as a 1L, but instead of going up against the best and brightest, he chose to be a big fish in a smaller pond. He assessed the odds and took a gamble. If he gets the job of his dreams and your left "settling" for an offer you really don't want.....He wins. You lose. Game over.
Stop crying about it, and lose your blinding sense of entitlement. It's unbecoming of a T6 law student, and its the reason why most people hate elistist, self-aggrandizing lawyers. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:06 PM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch SC couldnt go to NYU.
If I remember correctly, he was on the damn waitlist at Fordham. Dont give me that big fish in a small pond garbage.
"Stop crying about it, and lose your blinding sense of entitlement."
No, but most people hate snakes. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:57 AM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker No. That is incorrect. My buddy at Fordham who was one of the top ten STUDENTS this past year told me that most people are dumbasses there and that he'd look around the room, shake his head, and walk out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644812) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 1:40 PM Author: Bateful boltzmann so, i know plenty of dumbasses at nyu law. and even a few at harvard.
the student profile at fordham is usually between 15-17 nationally. is it even with nyu? no. but is it that much worse? not at all. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:53 AM Author: Well-lubricated Location Coldplay Fan I admire a hard working former TTT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644783) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:53 AM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena This is correct. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644789) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:53 AM Author: Slippery racy university I don't hate transfers. I hate the administration that accepts such huge numbers of them.
It's ridiculous that they do OCI as NYU law students despite not taking a single NYU law class. It's ridiculous that the administration reserves more OCI slots for them than they do for regular law students. It's ridiculous that they take law review spots from NYU law students. And, it's ridiculous that they look much better than the average NYU students, who has B/B+ grades, which look like crap against straight A/A-. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:55 AM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch Law review is indefensible.
Not 1 goddamn transfer should be on a journal until every real student that wants a spot has one. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:24 PM Author: black disrespectful persian chapel Yet 25% of law review is moronic URMs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644989) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:55 AM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker yea, I agree. I'm going to shoot an e-mail out to my entire section in a show of solidarity AGAINST transfers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644801) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:43 PM Author: Hateful Garnet Site Are you serious? Don't do that. People will think you are a massive tool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645077) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:51 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat I'm sure they already do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645120) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:58 AM Author: doobsian excitant love of her life Hey fucktard.
Perhaps you should have picked a school that isn't such a transfer whore.
I don't hear the Harvard & Yale kids whining about transfers.
Good luck with that sense of entitlement thing you have going - especially since you are coming from a film school that gets confused with NYLS. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:01 PM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker meh. You're arguments are tired. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644831) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:02 PM Author: doobsian excitant love of her life Whatever Spike Lee.
Knicks suck BTW. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:21 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat Titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644974) |
Date: August 21st, 2005 11:57 AM Author: flesh hairraiser house trump supporter Do CLS or NYU transfers do better 2L than the average native-CLS-or-NYU-er? If not, do you think it's because they stole cushy jobs from natives during EIW and can now coast? If so is it because they are naturally gunnerish and can't break out of their gunner shell? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644806) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:58 AM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch 2L and 3L grades are irrelevant (and usually the 1st thing transfers point to as evidence that they arent inferior) because students dont work nearly as hard and a ton of classes arent curved.
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:58 AM Author: Cobalt preventive strike trust fund EDIT: Nevermind, misread your post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644818) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:24 PM Author: black disrespectful persian chapel Yes, plenty of CLS/NYU transfers will graduate at the top of the class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644993) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:57 AM Author: Fear-inspiring Charismatic Cuckoldry Reading Party (1) At top schools (like T6), many of the transfers are coming from other top schools T14-25, where the difference in LSAT can be as small as 2-3 points. Not a big deal.
(2) For those to transfer to a T6 from a TTT, they might very well have been T6 material in the initial applications process, and chose the TTT instead for personal/financial reasons (like a full scholarship). Only after enrolling did they realize what a horrible mistake they made and decided to transfer up.
(3) Most top law schools only pick the "super stars" at other law schools, or -- like Harvard or Yale -- only select transfers who would have initially been offered admission (or waitlisted) according to standard admissions procedure. Plain and simply, transfers to a T6 are not "TTTs" by any meaning of the term. In my experience (not being a transfer, but having many as friends), not only do transfers tend to get great jobs, but they also tend to perform WAY above the curve at whatever school they transferred to. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 11:59 AM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker That's b/c they feel like they have something to prove, gun in every class, and bring the rest of the school down with them. Rancid TTT's. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644819) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:00 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat How were your 1L grades, out of curiosity? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644822) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:02 PM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker I had a 3.17. 3 B+'s and 3 B's. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644836) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:04 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat You're a fucking TTT. Shut the fuck up now. You're just jealous, and it's fucking obvious. Most likely, you shouldn't have been admitted to NYU in the first place.
In any case, I will be getting offers from great firms, and would have gotten them anyway, while you will be at Strook or some other TTT. Case fucking closed. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:07 PM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker Right. I don't think you get it: I'm the proletariat of NYU Law. If I had straight A's I'd be pissed but not as. You waltz in here with your 3.6 or whatever which means NOTHING. You've went up against the shit of the crop and beat them That's great. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644875) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:08 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat STROOOOOOCK!
I hope you're happy with your career prospects! |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:12 PM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch I dont see why you're such a dick now.
You went to fucking Fordham for law school for your 1st year. You have no room to brag or criticize anyone. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:13 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat I'm not bragging at all. Some TTT student tries to take cheap shots at me and I point out that he fucking sucks and wouldn't be competing with me anyway, whether I was at Fordham or not. How is that bragging? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644926) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:15 PM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch We'll never know how he would compete against you because you werent part of the NYU Class of 2007 1st year.
And I wouldnt say he's a TTT if he got into NYU and all you got was Fordham. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:18 PM Author: razzle rusted black woman Given the choice between attempting to 1) game my UGPA up to 3.5 and hitting 175+ on the LSAT or 2) getting top 10% at Fordham, I'd take my chances with the former any day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644955) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:13 PM Author: coiffed den dont get full of yourself. Your bio will always read that you started at Fordham.
amazing how lucking into a decent school can turn anyone into a total dork. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:19 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat No, actually. A few years from now, Fordham drops out and all it sayd is J.D., New York University School of Law.
Listen...I am a better student than tuttle and probably the majority of people who bitch about transfers. My LSAT (170) was still over NYU's median. Chances are that I would have been successful at NYU as well. It's kind of annoying when TTT students try to take cheap shots at me.
The fact of the matter remains that both NYU and the firms are highly condfident in my abilities as a lawyer. Whether or not any fucking asshole who hasn't even graduated yet disagrees is pretty much irrelevent. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:26 PM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch Listen...I am a better student than tuttle and probably the majority of people who bitch about transfers. My LSAT (170) was still over NYU's median. Chances are that I would have been successful at NYU as well. It's kind of annoying when TTT students try to take cheap shots at me.
1. You dont know that. 2. You dont know that. 3. Maybe, but your GPA was horrible, which when put together, would put you as one of the lower students. 4. You dont know that. 5. You're calling others TTT when all you could do is Fordham and now all of a sudden you think you're wonderful because you were in the top 15% or whatever in Fordham's 1L class, but you think you'd just own at NYU. Not.
Case closed. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:52 PM Author: buff frum nursing home haunted graveyard LMAO,177 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645126) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:05 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644856) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:05 PM Author: doobsian excitant love of her life Perhaps you should spend more time in the library and less worrying about "TTTs." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644858) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:08 PM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker perhaps. But that's irrelevant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644889) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:08 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Charismatic Cuckoldry Reading Party And you're an NYU student? Correct me if I'm wrong, but a 3.17 puts you WAY below the curve.
No wonder you're complaining. You lost the 1L war my friend, perhaps you should have attended a TTT yourself and been a superstar you jealous tard. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:09 PM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch You're wrong. Corrected. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644898) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:10 PM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker Hmmmm, the median is a 3.16. And of course I'm complaining b/c I'm not top of my class. I'm pissed that these TTT's are taking spots from me and half my class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644906) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:12 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat Those spots weren't yours, anyway. Get fucking real. We're not competing for the same firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644919) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:13 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena The imperfect admissions system put you at NYU and SC at Fordham. Get over it dude. Hes gonna own you in 2L and 3L too. Stop bitching about needing protection b/c you are stupid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644923) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:50 PM Author: exciting demanding roommate You're wrong -
3.17 is slightly above the median
And it's probably changing that curve that should be as much of a focus as any transfer policy |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 1:37 PM Author: Slippery racy university As far as I know, every other top schools grades on a B+ curve, again fucking over NYU students. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645393) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 1:41 PM Author: exciting demanding roommate I think Columbia's lower, but yeah it still fucking hurts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645415) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 1:43 PM Author: Slippery racy university Do you have any actual data on medians?
I assumed that the average student would pull 3 Bs and 3 B+s for an average of 3.165, but that's a pure guess. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 11:30 AM Author: exciting demanding roommate sorry, no can do. I know it's between 3.1 and 3.2 but that's all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3651274) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 12:11 AM Author: Flirting piazza scourge upon the earth Honestly, you're too far down the totem poll to worry about transfers. Any firm you have a prospect of landing, a transfer to your school would have already been able to get an interview at even without transfer OCI.
Top students at my school without transfering made vault top 10s...and my 1L school is not even in the NY geography.
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:00 PM Author: motley sooty jap therapy "Harvard or Yale -- only select transfers who would have initially been offered admission (or waitlisted) according to standard admissions procedure." Harvard says this on its website, but I can now definitively tell you that it is untrue. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:06 PM Author: doobsian excitant love of her life Did you transfer in? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644863) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:06 PM Author: motley sooty jap therapy A good friend did. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644871) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:11 PM Author: doobsian excitant love of her life Good for them. What were their numbers and where did they transfer from.
Also, did they save the whales or are a URM? |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:33 PM Author: motley sooty jap therapy Michigan. Approximately Top 25%. I don't know her UG numbers, but she applied and was rejected from Harvard as a 1L. No whales, white. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:48 PM Author: Hateful Garnet Site That's bullshit. Anyone could be waitlisted by those schools. Waitlist means nothing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645104) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:01 PM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch 2 and 3L grades are irrelevant. Your competing in different subjects, with 3L's who dont care, and in many cases, without a forced curve.
"many of the transfers are coming from other top schools T14-25, where the difference in LSAT can be as small as 2-3 points. Not a big deal."
Well, employers, by their hiring practices, sure seem to think its a big deal. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 1:22 PM Author: exciting demanding roommate 1. "Plain and simply, transfers to a T6 are not "TTTs" by any meaning of the term."
Agreed
2. "For those to transfer to a T6 from a TTT, they might very well have been T6 material in the initial applications process, and chose the TTT instead for personal/financial reasons (like a full scholarship)."
"At top schools (like T6), many of the transfers are coming from other top schools T14-25, where the difference in LSAT can be as small as 2-3 points."
can be, but usually isn't. I obviously don't have a link or anything to back this up, but from the initial yield stats, I'd be stunned if the average person from a 14-25 school was generally admitted earlier to the place that they transfered to.
2. "Most top law schools only pick the "super stars" at other law schools, or -- like Harvard or Yale"
Actually not anymore, at least with Harvard. They're increasing their transfer size by a lot. They may say it's just people who had stats to get in to begin with, but from the specfic examples I've heard of I find that hard to believe.
Also, Columbia allegedly took 80 people last year. (That's one thing I should add, the # of transfers is grouped with the non-matrics. Our admin sucks and I wouldn't put it past them to copy what Columbia did last year, but the stat listed for 2004, 74, was higher than the number that actually transfered to the school - The # for this year will also include visiting students.)
[From Earlier]
3. Law Review
Law Review actually doesn't take that many transfers compared to their numbers at the school. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the past I thought it was like just a couple people.
4. SC
I don't have anything against transfers and from the friends of mine I know who transferred to the school, I'm aware of absolutely zero tensions between them and the rest of the students on campus. SC has been acting pompous lately. Best of luck to you; I hope you have a good time on campus; and, nah, I had to admit, you aren't going to steal any job I would have had. That said, and I mean this as a serious piece of advice-don't assume you'll do the same on tests as at Fordham, don't talk about your grades on a regular basis, and don't knock classmates if they go to a lower firm than you. If you were to do all that (and nobody knew you were a transfer) you would still catch flack from the other people in class.
5. # of OCI slots
Is it really that big a difference? If it's your goal to get a bunch of OCI slots, you can easily wind up with above 40 if you include the stuff you'll get from a waitlist.
6. As at other places compared to here
Firms will know someone transferred and that they got their grades from somewhere else. There are places that won't care and will prefer to take someone with As who will also have NYU on their resume. If you want to change it, the reason that this would be a problem, though, has as much to do with the School's curve as its transfer policy. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 1:33 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat "SC has been acting pompous lately. Best of luck to you, I hope you have a good time on campus. And I had to admit, no-you aren't going to steal any job I would have had. That said, and I mean this as a serious piece of advice-don't assume you'll do the same on tests as at Fordham, don't talk about you're grades on a regular basis, and don't knock classmates if they go to a lower firm than you. If you were to do all that (and nobody knew you were a transfer) you would catch flack from your classmates."
Thanks. I personally don't think I have been acting pompous as of late, but I suppose there are people out there who might think so. It's just that I am happy and excited about the way things have turned out, and proud as well. But, this is just a fucking message board, and you have to remember that I'm a fucking reg here...I am on good terms with most of the other regs and when I post I do so as if I am speaking to them. I would never talk about grades, offers, etc., IRL unless it was with friends. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:01 PM Author: razzle rusted black woman I see nothing wrong with them-- they earned their spot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644830) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:05 PM Author: motley sooty jap therapy I don't disagree, but can you explain how any transfer has "earned" 10 more interviews than the #1 student in NYU's class? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644855) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:07 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena How are they getting more spots? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644877) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:08 PM Author: motley sooty jap therapy Did you read the original post? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644883) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:17 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena The OP contains a conclusion. There is no indication of how or why. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644947) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:19 PM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker
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Date: August 20th, 2005 8:46 PM Author: TTTransfer
pretty good. I put in 42 bids (40 NY, 2 Newark), bid somewhat agressively, and got 36 interviews. Coming from Brooklyn. You?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244133&forum_id=2#3640965)
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Date: August 20th, 2005 8:49 PM Author: SexualChocolate
Fuck, that's a lot. I got 32/40. Also a lot. It's unreal. I would have bid DPW and Simpson Thacher a bit higher had I known I'd get so damn many. As it is I have interviews with a bunch of firms I have no interest in whatsoever.
Coming from Fordham.
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:20 PM Author: motley sooty jap therapy It contains an assertion that we're accepting as true for the purposes of this argument. If it's false, then who cares? But if it's true that transfers are getting more interviews through their lottery than are students who've paid tens of thousands of dollars in tuition, then these students have indeed been let down by their administration. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644970) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:28 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena DId you read my post? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645005) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:07 PM Author: razzle rusted black woman No, I actually agree with you that transfers should have the same number of interviews as their peers. I was responding to the criticism earlier in the thread unrelated to this (sorry about the confusion). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644879) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 10:19 PM Author: Chestnut coffee pot liquid oxygen Subject: see post below fyi, transfers averaged about 28 interviews. Not that much more than the rest (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3648772) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:06 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Charismatic Cuckoldry Reading Party titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644864) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:08 PM Author: flesh hairraiser house trump supporter Tuttle, I don't think you're being fair. You say NYU reserved more interview slots for each transfer than it did for each native since two transfer posters said they got 32 and 36 interviews. But at orientation they said transfers generally got 29-30. Maybe the transfer posters just bid more strategically or got lucky regarding interview outcomes... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644887) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:10 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat Yes...and maybe some transfers came from other markets and bid on firms from that region that other NYU students didn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644902) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:13 PM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker Maybe.
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Date: August 20th, 2005 8:46 PM Author: TTTransfer
pretty good. I put in 42 bids (40 NY, 2 Newark), bid somewhat agressively, and got 36 interviews. Coming from Brooklyn. You?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244133&forum_id=2#3640965)
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Date: August 20th, 2005 8:49 PM Author: SexualChocolate
Fuck, that's a lot. I got 32/40. Also a lot. It's unreal. I would have bid DPW and Simpson Thacher a bit higher had I known I'd get so damn many. As it is I have interviews with a bunch of firms I have no interest in whatsoever.
Coming from Fordham.
Maybe not. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:14 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena now we see why he has a 3.17. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644932) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:17 PM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch What's it matter what an NYU student's grades were 1L?
A 3.17 is decidely average, but fuck it, he's at NYU. He didnt have to work hard, unlike people from TTT's. Isnt that the main reason people go to the better school? |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:21 PM Author: Maize Shivering Brethren I think the concept of a forced curve is lost on a lot of people. Given the quality of student at NYU and how hard so many people work, it's not exactly shameful to end up in the bottom half of the class. It's certainly not indicative of the fact that one should have gone to a TTT.
It would be interesting to see transfer's 2L grades..... |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:23 PM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch 2L grades are irrelevant. You know as well as I that if you pick your classes right, you can inflate your GPA. In most classes, the competitive edge just isnt there.
Given where firms go in the Fordham class as oppossed to NYU, I think at least they understand the concept of a forced curve. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:25 PM Author: Maize Shivering Brethren That's not really true about the competitive edge, I found. 2L grades are not irrelevant. Students who are interested in clerkships work pretty hard to keep their grades up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644995) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:27 PM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch Oh yeah they do. Just stay away from those classes. I found you could pick classes that had a lot fewer of those people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645004) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:32 PM Author: Maize Shivering Brethren It depends on what you want to take. I wasn't NOT going to take a class just because it had a bunch of gunners in it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645025) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:51 PM Author: Hateful Garnet Site What class? I need to know so I can avoid it too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645119) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:23 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena He is bitching because he sucks and cant compete with people who are smarter than he is. NYU's Adcom made a mistake in admitting tuttle.
People dont go to better schools so that they dont have to work as hard. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:29 PM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch People dont go to better schools so that they dont have to work as hard.
Bullshit.
www.law.virginia.edu |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:18 PM Author: Disturbing Sound Barrier Weed Whacker and where do you go to school Oral? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644953) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:28 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena GULC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645011) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:32 PM Author: Slippery racy university A 3.17 from NYU is more than decent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645028) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:33 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena A >3.6 at fordham who transfers to NYU is FAR better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645034) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:37 PM Author: Slippery racy university That's like saying a minor leaguer who bats .380 is better than you're average major leaguer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645049) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:38 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena A minor leaguer who bats .380 doesnt stay in the minors very long, does he? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645054) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:40 PM Author: Slippery racy university Irrelevant.
Plenty of great minor leaguers cannot compete in the majors. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:41 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena Law firms are the ultimate judge of that. They wouldnt hire transfers if they couldnt compete. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645067) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:43 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat Exactly. I love how these jokers, who have one fucking year of law school behind them, think they're better qualified to make that judgment than law firms, judges, and the law school admissions department. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645080) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:45 PM Author: Slippery racy university It has nothing to do with that.
I have no animosity to transfers, but its a shitty system that hurts 1L students. Similar to the PT program at Fordham. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:47 PM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch You do realize you're one of those "Jokers," right?
Your arrogance is ridiculous. Its like you just got off the boat from NFL Europe and all of a sudden you're better than people in the Pro Bowl. Who are you to call tuttle a shitty student? Until you do something at NYU, I'd pipe down and realize what you are -- a fresh off the boat kid from Fordham. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:49 PM Author: motley sooty jap therapy There was that guy I remember a few years back who had a career AAA OPS of about .960. Played in the minors for like 15 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645107) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:40 PM Author: Maize Shivering Brethren Until he hits over .300 in the majors he should just be humble and take it in stride. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645058) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:42 PM Author: Misanthropic overrated striped hyena take what in stride? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645074) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:45 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat Exactly - take what in stride? They act as if I talk down to them. People are attacking me, and I am merely responding. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645089) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 9:09 AM Author: godawful library Assuming Fordham is another level than NYU.
This is great stuff, and I don't know shit about Fordham, but that is one fucking arrogant statement. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 11:30 AM Author: 180 ticket booth The key part of your post being: "I don't know shit" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3651273) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 1:31 PM Author: godawful library True, so ignore my whole "Blow me, you little bitch" post.
The key part has already been posted. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:23 PM Author: black disrespectful persian chapel This thread reeks of a pathetic inferiority complex. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3644982) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:26 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat It's sad. NYU should be concerned that their students are such whiny pricks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645000) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:29 PM Author: black disrespectful persian chapel Yep. Maybe they should stop accepting bonehead morons who got a 3.9 in poly sci at a TTT state school but happened to get lucky on a 3 hr test. Lucky for you, these people are the reason why you'll get the same grades at NYU that you got at your TTT LS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645015) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:30 PM Author: Maize Shivering Brethren NYU students ARE whiny pricks, but Mr. SexualChocolate, you really have had an attitude about how great you are since getting into NYU and it has been pretty annoying. I think that attitude is why you are getting all the flak now.
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:36 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat I'm getting flak because a bunch of people aren't satisfied with their 1L grades, EIW starts tomorrow, and they need something to bitch about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645046) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:38 PM Author: black disrespectful persian chapel See my other thread. They'll be bitching even more when you get offers at firms that they can only masturbate to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645053) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:48 PM Author: cheese-eating multi-colored hospital clown Subject: agreed if a/o to be upset with it's the admin. sc just took advantage of his 1L grades and the system helps him. e/o would do the same if they were in his position. but i'd give him flak b/c, whether he means it or not, he comes across as having a pretty big ego and thinks he's high and mighty. as a transfer if you present yourself in that manner then you're just asking for it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645103) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:55 PM Author: Maize Shivering Brethren Well, that's exactly right. No one can blame him for transfering to NYU, and good for him for getting good grades at Fordham.
But it's natural for us to bitch when all the transfers make it harder for us to get in classes or hurt regular students during EIW.
I doubt anyone would have a problem w/ Sexual Chocolate personally if it wasn't for his attitude. I don't think tuttle's original rant was directed at him specifically.
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:56 PM Author: Maize Shivering Brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645148) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:58 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. People are attacking me, saying that I am going to 'steal their jobs,' and I am pointing out that we're not even competing for the same firms.
The fact is that the NYU kids on the board have been total assholes and extremely unwelcoming to me. But, I have every right to be at NYU, and to interview with the firms I'm interviewing with, and to accept an offer from any firm that gives one. The law school and the firms agree. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:59 PM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch Its that kind of standoffish attitude that isnt going to win you many friends among your classmates. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645162) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 1:00 PM Author: Slippery racy university You are going to take NYU student jobs without ever having taken an NYU class. No one is attacking you personally for transferring. It's just an unfair process that elevates you at our expense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645164) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 1:05 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat "No one is attacking you personally for transferring."
That's a relief. I'm going to start a thread titled "ATTENTION NIGGERS: I hate you all" - when Weezy and Kill object, I'll remind them that I'm not attacking them personally. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 1:07 PM Author: Slippery racy university Ppl are attacking you for acting like an asshole. I have no animosity to the transfers. Just the admin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645214) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 1:24 PM Author: appetizing apoplectic ceo brunch Date: August 21st, 2005 1:05 PM Author: SexualChocolate
"No one is attacking you personally for transferring."
I'm going to start a thread titled "ATTENTION NIGGERS: I hate you all" - when Weezy and Kill object, I'll remind them that I'm not attacking them personally"
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 2:12 PM Author: yapping histrionic range "You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. People are attacking me, saying that I am going to 'steal their jobs,' and I am pointing out that we're not even competing for the same firms."
How do you know you're not competing for the same firms?
Even if you're not, there could very well be a displacement effect -- the people who otherwise would've gotten offers at Cravath had it not been for you and other transfers now end up at, say, Cleary, and people who would've otherwise gotten offers at Cleary now end up at Jones Day, and so on. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 12:57 PM Author: Insanely creepy theater stage philosopher-king http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=243036&mc=6&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645153) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 1:37 PM Author: fantasy-prone generalized bond church building I am sorry that I spent my time reading this entire damn thread. It's pretty fucking pathetic. Take inflated egos, mix liberally with insecurities, and toss in a naturally combative attitude and you end up with the recipe for douchebag pie that is this thread.
Yes, people who shell out $40k in tuition and have the numbers to get in to NYU deserve to have the career office go to bat for them before others. Yes, there is a forced curve, meaning it is significantly easier to climb to the top of your class at Fordham. If you think a 3.6 at Fordham means you were born with the right stuff to succeed comparably anywhere, you've benefited from living in a bubble where professors lavish praise on you due to your lackluster competition. The notion that, due to some weird quota system, Fordham transfers are treated better by the carreer office than NYU natives should infuriate the natives.
That said, nobody should hold SC's transfer admission against him. He has benefited from gaming an imperfect system. More power to him.
People should get to bitch about the system but should be able to congratulate SC.
SC should take pride in skipping a year of NYU's tuition and trouncing the competition at Fordham. He should also sympathise with those who feel as if the career office and adcom do not have their interests at heart. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 1:39 PM Author: black disrespectful persian chapel No, the people who have numbers to get into NYU but did shitty there benefitted from gaming an imperfect system. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645407) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 1:41 PM Author: Slippery racy university That's completely illogical. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645420) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 1:42 PM Author: Coral soul-stirring orchestra pit mediation I'm not sure about that. If someone made an informed decision that getting into NYU would allow them to coast and still get a good job, how is that 'benefitting from an imperfect system'? Granted, those people shouldnt complain about transfers because they should have known that this was going to happen before they chose the coasting route, but I don't think this is proof of a flawed system in of itself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645424) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 1:46 PM Author: fantasy-prone generalized bond church building Sure. If they got into NYU and their performance was shitty in some aboslute sense, they shouldn't be there. However, if they got in and their performance was good but came up shy in comparison to the rest of the class, they have every right to be there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3645441) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 3:47 PM Author: Magenta Main People Headpube Here is one key point that you all forgot about Sexual Chocolate:
The dick didn't even make law review at Fordham.
Pretty fucking sad for him to be acting like he achieved something when he couldn't even hack a simple writing competition. Before he got into schools to transfer, all he did was whine and cry about how badly he wants to make Fordham Law Review because it's the only journal he bid on. I urge you all to look his name up in the new facebook coming out and kick his ass. Fucking loser. You don't deserve a goddamn thing. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 4:22 PM Author: Supple Autistic Address Legal Warrant Subject: Looks like what goes around... Date: July 15th, 2005 12:32 PM Author: SexualChocolate
The whole p/t thing really pisses me off. What bigger way to say "fuck you" to the day students. Again, I don't think they should be eligible for law review or moot court or anything like that. Such should be the price you pay for p/t. This is, of course, only because the vast majority of p/t'ers are people who couldn't get accepted into day division and don't work. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 4:23 PM Author: Coral soul-stirring orchestra pit mediation wow, pwn3d... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3646451) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 4:35 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat There is a difference between part timers and transfers. Part timers not only compete against less qualified applicants, but also students who have full time jobs. Furthermore, they take less classes so their GPAs are artificially high in comparison to the day people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3646548) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 4:38 PM Author: Coral soul-stirring orchestra pit mediation Sorry friend, trying to make this distinction doesn't come close to overcoming the obvious irony of your old post. When it was you getting the short end, you were Mr. Sense of Entitlement. Now you're blasting others for the same behavior. You got pwn3d.
That said, you're in at NYU with extra interviews and there is nothing anyone can do about it. So, really, you win. But you sure look like a douchebag. All things considered, not a bad tradeoff I guess. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 4:37 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat There is also a difference between making a few posts bitching about transfers and starting threads attacking particular p/t'ers or evening students in general. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3646563) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 4:38 PM Author: Slippery racy university Holy shit!!!
PwN3d * 180.
Edit: This deserves its own thread please. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 4:42 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat Again, it's not the pwnag3 you take it to be. there are significant differences between p/t students and transfers.
But, that said, the experience has changed my opinions about evening students. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 4:43 PM Author: Slippery racy university The major difference being you are a transfer and not an evening student.
Wow, you look like a jackass. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 4:45 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat No, the major difference being that I don't have an NYU GPA and can't say I was in the top X% at NYU while evening students can say they are in the top X% at Fordham. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3646614) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 4:46 PM Author: Slippery racy university Pathetic justification. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3646633) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 4:50 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat How is that pathetic? I competed against weaker students, but I don't get to say I competed against NYU 1L's. Evening students (those w/out jobs) not only compete against weaker students but also students who WORK FULL TIME; they take fewer classes than day students (thus have less of a chance for their GPA's to dip), and still get to say they were top X% of the 1L class (including day students). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3646657) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 4:49 PM Author: Coral soul-stirring orchestra pit mediation On the flip side, you get to interview with all those firms who want to meet NYU students who have gotten NYU educations even though you've logged exactly zero minutes in an NYU classroom while at least those Fordham PTers who are getting the benefits of being Fordham students actually ARE Fordham students. So, this goes both ways.
I strongly urge you to stop trying to impress people with your wonderful law school developed ability to differentiate similar situations and just admit that you like being the beneficiary of the good breaks, but don't like being the guy on the short end. There is absolutely no principle involved here. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 4:51 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat You make it sound as if the firms that come to NYU don't come to Fordham. This is not the case, at least in terms of the firms I am interviewing with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3646668) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 4:56 PM Author: Coral soul-stirring orchestra pit mediation You make it sound like you arent gaining a clear benefit by bidding for an interview with Firm X as an NYU student as opposed to a Fordham student. Of course, you are. And you know it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3646703) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 5:00 PM Author: buff frum nursing home haunted graveyard No shit, why else would he transfer? That being said, who cares? If your grades are decent you don't have anything to worry about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3646728) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 5:02 PM Author: Coral soul-stirring orchestra pit mediation I'm not saying he should feel bad for being a transfer, which is why I said: "That said, you're in at NYU with extra interviews and there is nothing anyone can do about it. So, really, you win. But you sure look like a douchebag. All things considered, not a bad tradeoff I guess."
But he's trying to say he's not coming off as a ridiculous hypocrite. And he clearly is. That's all. |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 5:00 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat You do realize that the firm will evaluate me based on my 1L grades, right? I'm not 'fooling' them into believing that I was top X% at NYU...they evaluate me just as they would had I interviewed with them at Fordham. Perhaps they think I show good judgment, but that's about the only benefit in terms of the interview itself. And, I will admit that I probably did get more interviews here than I would have at Fordham...but its impossible to say who I 'would have gotten' had I stayed. Anyway, the major reason I transferred was not to do better during OCI, but for the long-term benefits that come along with the NYU degree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3646731) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 5:05 PM Author: Coral soul-stirring orchestra pit mediation And you do realize that mixing up where your 1L grades came from wasnt what I was talking about, right? What I am talking about is that each individual firm will tend to grant more interviews at NYU, giving you a better shot of getting one. They will also be making more NYU offers than they would at Fordham. Not to mention that they'll look at your good Fordham grades in a better light since you're now at NYU then if they were giving you the same interview had you stayted at Fordham. That's the benefit I'm talking about. And its significant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3646758) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 4:57 PM Author: Slippery racy university You wouldn't have half the interviews you have now if you were in Fordham, whether the firms came or not. I know someone in Fordham with a great GPA and she was not able to get many of the top firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3646714) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 5:04 PM Author: cyan odious kitty cat You don't even know how she bid! What's a great GPA anyway? As good/better than mine? maybe she has a TTT resume...maybe she had a fucking typo in it. You never know.
I know a girl w/a similar GPA who got 27 interviews. Another poster here w/the same GPA got 20, and he bid on a lot of firms that are only doing 1-2 schedules.
Do I agree that I got more interviews here than I probably would have? Yes, of course. Is it that big a deal though? So I wouldn't have gotten Jones Day or Morgan Lewis if I stayed...so what? I'd probably end up at a similar firm. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 2:19 PM Author: yapping histrionic range Umm, if that's the case then why did you even transfer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3652620) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 12:48 AM Author: electric crackhouse Dude.. you lose.. you dug your own hole. I was feeling simpathetic toward you until I read your previous post. Sorry, but you are indeed a JACKASS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3649911) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 9:38 AM Author: godawful library Author: SexualChocolate
The whole p/t thing really pisses me off. What bigger way to say "fuck you" to the day students. Again, I don't think they should be eligible for law review or moot court or anything like that. Such should be the price you pay for p/t. This is, of course, only because the vast majority of p/t'ers are people who couldn't get accepted into day division and don't work.>>>>
Yeah, you should be kissing PT student asses for posting this after this thread.
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Date: August 21st, 2005 10:17 PM Author: Chestnut coffee pot liquid oxygen Transfer students are jerks. I heard they pee in your drink when you're not looking. And they're all left-handed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3648754) |
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Date: August 21st, 2005 10:27 PM Author: Diverse step-uncle's house you know nothing about gaming the transfer system until you meet me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3648825) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 12:07 AM Author: bearded center Subject: Cool! This turned out to be quite a successful flamebait. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3649628) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 2:23 PM Author: hairless candlestick maker Employers probably want someone who excels in the law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#3652665) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2005 5:10 PM Author: painfully honest dopamine Boo, fucking hoo! Tuttle and VeryMean:)Girl and whoever wants to cry.
Stop bitching already!
If you hate transfers, then don't go to a school that allows them (let me know when you find that out). Since NYU is known to have a big class and a big transfer class, you knew people from lower ranked school with high grades were going to be coming into the class before hand (or you should have, maybe you are a dumbass after all)
You could have picked a top school with a lower transfer class, otherwise you picked your poison and just STFU
[This in no way backs any comments by Sexual Chocolate as I didnt read them all] |
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Date: July 30th, 2007 6:41 PM Author: Thirsty Community Account Jew bump for transfer season! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#8452404) |
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Date: August 31st, 2008 10:36 PM Author: floppy offensive fortuitous meteor Fuck transfers interviewing at their new school's OCI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244385&forum_id=2#10115766) |
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