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What are the odds of Bush impeachment?
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:11 PM Author: Brindle stag film First, Dems would have to take over in 2006. How much support does impeachment require? I mean if they did it to Clinton on stupider grounds and far less public support, a Dem congress could easily get away with it, if only to embarass the hell out of him and send a message to future presidents. But the odds of that much Dem control are slim, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924017) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:11 PM Author: mind-boggling demanding idea he suggested indian lodge 0.5% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924021) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:12 PM Author: Glittery Godawful Nursing Home Marketing Idea name two or three non-political grounds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924029) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:13 PM Author: Nudist scarlet giraffe kitchen war crimes! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924033) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:14 PM Author: Brindle stag film Torture. WMD. CIA leak case (depending on how that pans out). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924045) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:17 PM Author: Glittery Godawful Nursing Home Marketing Idea the first two are policy - don't rise to the level of an impeachable offense. The third is, as you say, speculative, at best. He hasn't even been implicated yet (as far as I know). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924076) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:29 PM Author: Brindle stag film "The first two are policy" HAHAHAH . Flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924148) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:30 PM Author: Hairraiser fear-inspiring coffee pot Huh?
"high crimes and misdemeanors" |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:33 PM Author: Brindle stag film It was obvious flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924161) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:39 PM Author: Glittery Godawful Nursing Home Marketing Idea lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924214) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:13 PM Author: Hairraiser fear-inspiring coffee pot Clinton had a 74% approval rating and was impeached.
That said, the chances of a Bush impeachment are about zero, given that Democrats would first have to win an election. |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:14 PM Author: Brindle stag film Yeh I said as much in my first post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924052) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:15 PM Author: walnut sneaky criminal Right.
Democrats aren't good at the only thing politicians are supposed to be good at. Winning elections. |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:33 PM Author: Abusive tattoo Clinton admitted to comitting perjury. Bush has not been accused with any crime, is not being investigated for any crime, and will probably not admit to any crime. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924163) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:36 PM Author: Frum water buffalo native Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Clinton admitted to comitting perjury itself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924180) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:37 PM Author: Insane wine main people It depends on what the definition of 'admitted' is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924188) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:40 PM Author: Brindle stag film 170 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924221) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:40 PM Author: Insane wine main people Grade inflation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924225) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:41 PM Author: Frum water buffalo native He's one sly mofo. Admit to the moral crime and get away with the federal crime. We'll never again have as cunning of a president in the White House. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924227) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:40 PM Author: Abusive tattoo Clinton said, under oath, that he did not have sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. Clinton said, in public, that he did not have sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. Clinton later confessed, in public, that he DID have sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky and had previously lied about it. I'd say that qualifies as "admitted." |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:42 PM Author: Frum water buffalo native Again, notice that he has admitted to no [legal] wrongdoing. Self-evident as it may be, he never acknowledged perjury. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924238) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:44 PM Author: Abusive tattoo I suppose in the most technical sense, yes. But it's like saying that a man admitted to stabbing someone to death but didn't admitted to "committing murder." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924247) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:47 PM Author: Frum water buffalo native Yes, well that technicality made all the difference in the court of public opinion and the Congressional court. You think he had a chance of being acquitted in the Senate had he admitted to the crime? Of course not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924273) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:48 PM Author: slate gas station That's a gigantic difference. You can stab someone to death in self defense, and it isn't a crime. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924277) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:49 PM Author: Brindle stag film It wasn't a blowjob. I was penetrating in self defense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924286) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:50 PM Author: Abusive tattoo Fine, stab not in self defense.
I mean that he admitted to all the elements of perjury, but never to the crime itself - he lied, he knew it was a lie, and he did it anyway. |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:56 PM Author: slate gas station And you could admit to all of the elements of murder, but not to murder. You can have malice aforethought, etc., and still kill someone in self-defense. Likewise, there can be defenses to perjury (protection of state secrets, honest mistake, etc.).
I'm not saying he didn't commit perjury. Of course he did. But this distinction between admitting to the crime and admitting to the elements is a big one. |
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Date: November 13th, 2005 4:05 PM Author: bull headed faggot firefighter boiling water Perjury only applies to a material fact, since sexual relations or lack there of with Monica was not material to the investigation, it is not perjury. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#4282705) |
Date: September 28th, 2005 4:17 PM Author: Olive Bateful Digit Ratio About the same as the odds of him finishing out a third term. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924080) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:39 PM Author: Charismatic doctorate business firm Subject: 0% chance It is, quite frankly, an idiotic suggestion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924215) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:48 PM Author: Brindle stag film So forgetting the practicality of it, who would LIKE to have Bush impeached?
I would. |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:49 PM Author: Insane wine main people Even with the precedent it would set? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924287) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:50 PM Author: Brindle stag film That if you do really immoral acts under the color of the presidency, you get impeached, hell yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924298) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:52 PM Author: Frum water buffalo native "Immoral" isn't in the constitution.
Do you honestly want to put something as subjective as morality as a covenant for the oath of office? The religious right would have a field day when the Democratic president was in power. |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:50 PM Author: Black spot queen of the night It's not worth it at this point. It's bad for the country. I think Bush is a horrible president, but impeachment should be reserved for crises. I do think he should step down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924296) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:50 PM Author: Brindle stag film Yeh that would be ideal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=268378&forum_id=2#3924301) |
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Date: September 28th, 2005 4:54 PM Author: passionate white hunting ground 2%, which is the chance I give him of doing something that even the repubs would have to impeach him for.
For shit that has happened so far, 0.05%. |