Date: October 7th, 2005 2:13 PM Author: violet filthy mexican
Also, your experience with number of friends having had abortions and their reactions to it sounds almost identical to mine. However, the one that regrets it, although it doesn't come out that often, is going on a lot more than two years.
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:10 PM Author: violet filthy mexican
It sucks. I went with her (the contributing male party was not very nice or responsible, although he paid for half - I thought he should have footed the whole bill but she didn't want to argue with him about it). It was not pretty. She barfed the whole ride home from the anaesthetic and was in a lot of pain that night and for a couple days. She says she's never going to have kids now because she feels so guilty about it. She's pretty depressive in general, though. I think she just really felt like she finally fucked up big-time and it wasn't a game anymore or something like that.
Most of the guys in this thread should be aborted.
Date: October 7th, 2005 2:03 PM Author: Stimulating step-uncle's house
actually, i haven't.
however, at least four girls i know (i would count three of them as good friends) have had them and i can't help but wonder if a guy would view it worse than most females. out of the four, two have dealt with it fine, one is kind of upset about having been in that situation, and the fourth is a total basketcase about it still (two years later). so i was just wondering about the male opinion.
Date: October 7th, 2005 2:04 PM Author: Aggressive rehab karate
Honestly, it really depends on when in the relationship I found out about it. If it was early on before I was deep into the relationship, I think that I'd have trouble getting past that. If I had already invested a lot into the relationship, I can't imagine ending it just because of the abortion. Unless it had led to complications that meant she wouldn't be able to give birth in the future.
Why is the latter condition a dealbreaker? It shouldn't be. So what if a woman sleeps around? Sex is pleasurable and it's not innately immoral or wrong in any sense, so why shouldn't a female indulge in it?
Date: October 7th, 2005 2:13 PM Author: boyish ruby goyim
I'm religious, but it doesn't have anything to do with my religion. Maybe, because some strange weird part of me thinks it will be more special. I guess I'll never know for sure.
Also, the emotional consequences of sex would just be a lot to deal with. I don't need that shit right now
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:14 PM Author: henna casino
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EDIT: Although in the long term, I guess the fertility considerations might be important; and also, if the abortion had resulted in a lot of mental issues, also trouble.
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:16 PM Author: violet filthy mexican
What sort of Republican propaganda are you people reading? There are no conclusive studies leading to a reasonable conclusion that a routine abortion reduces fertility. Give me a break.
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:12 PM Author: Rebellious Giraffe Old Irish Cottage
no.
i dated a girl in college that had one. although i'm pro0life (my official stance is that men should have no say in the argument), it didn't make me think any less or more of her. she explained what happened, i understood why she did it. and even still, i am and was in no position to judge...
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:34 PM Author: Godawful sooty turdskin
Why don't we just make women who've had abortions tatto little As on their forehead on each one. That way you'll be SURE to know whether she has "issues."
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:29 PM Author: Godawful sooty turdskin
And the fact that people can't see the difference between what I do with my OWN body and what other people do with OTHER people's bodies is utterly ridiculous.
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:36 PM Author: Godawful sooty turdskin
No, there's a DISTINCT difference between someone doing something to their OWN body and someone doing something with ANOTHER person's body. If I change my hair color, or gain 10 pounds, or get my nose pierced, that's none of YOUR concern. Although I know YOU think it is because you like to control every facet of Mandy's life. But that's not part of a HEALTHY relationship.
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:39 PM Author: Erotic Church Building Sound Barrier
"there's a DISTINCT difference between someone doing something to their OWN body and someone doing something with ANOTHER person's body."
Except that your problem isn't with what's happening with the other person's body, its what they're doing with their body. Fine - another example - drug use. Its pretty relevant if an SO shoots up heroin.
"If I change my hair color, or gain 10 pounds, or get my nose pierced, that's none of YOUR concern."
Sure it is. In a serious relationship that is every bit my concern.
"Although I know YOU think it is because you like to control every facet of Mandy's life. But that's not part of a HEALTHY relationship."
Lets all readily admit that YOU have never been in one of those.
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:40 PM Author: Godawful sooty turdskin
And neither have you, I'm sure, you controlling prick.
And, for the record, I would never break up with anyone for being a heroin addict. I WOULD, however, break up with him after he stole my TV to score another hit. I love my TV.
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:27 PM Author: Stimulating step-uncle's house
I would feel strange withholding that information... just like I would expect any potential long term boyfriend to tell me if, say, he had been through that with an ex. not specific details, but anything that's that serious... i would at least let him know about and would expect the same from him.
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:41 PM Author: Milky theatre
even massachusettes would adopt significant restrictions on abortions. there would be a few places where you could still get them, but it would be totally changed
edit: you're hilariously sensitive to this issue. who would have thought something as routine as abortion would get a poster into a spaz attack. anyway I was just flaming you. carry on
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:45 PM Author: Godawful sooty turdskin
Yeah, I'm "spazing" because I'm a woman expressing my viewpoint. If you say so.
And you're deluding yourself if you think I couldn't get an abortion even without Roe v. Wade. Abortion's not going anywhere in places like DC, NYC and LA. And even if it did, I have enough money to go to Canada. It's not women like me who will be affected by the reversal of Roe. It's women like that poor young woman in Alabama with no money who, as it is, already has a hard enough time finding a clinic and getting there WITH Roe. Without Roe she's completely screwed.
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:54 PM Author: Milky theatre
I think i've demonstrated I'm not afraid of either position
however, calling someone a murderer always seems better than a "antichoice hypocrite" or whatever you said. plus feminazis are always more funny when angered than zealots, not the least because they are essentially schtick, having 0% of the american public behind them. zealots are actually a little scary.
Date: October 7th, 2005 5:48 PM Author: Stimulating step-uncle's house
you dont seem to get my point... that in a relationship, serious issues/former problems should not be kept secret... you dont have to make their lives an emotional wasteland, but if you are in a serious relationship, that's something the chick should disclose.
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:24 PM Author: Floppy circlehead
I've said something like this to a couple of girls who have responded by telling me they have had an abortion. And imagine if some of the dicks on this board was the bf at the time--i bet half the guys on this thread have dated someone who had an abortion
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:25 PM Author: burgundy sweet tailpipe
The people I've known who have definitely had abortions grew up to be pretty stable, even if they were pretty fucking crazy at the time. I think it would be shitty just to give them a miss for a past mistake.
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:31 PM Author: lilac mediation
Or if she threw a sweet raging party every year on the kid's "birthday" with the $18,000 she didn't have to waste keeping the little POS alive that year.
Date: October 7th, 2005 3:32 PM Author: burgundy sweet tailpipe
I haven't spoken to these people in depth in a while, so I don't know if any of them regret it or not. I know at the time they weren't happy about it but didn't feel they had better options. I mean, it's not like any of them were proud of themselves or thought the whole thing was a joke.
So you would want them to regret having not ruined their lives and educations by introducting a baby that they potentially could not afford into their lives? Nice.
Date: October 7th, 2005 4:11 PM Author: Milky theatre
more people isn't a problem if they are going to someone who can afford to adopt a child from south korea. These people would just waste their money on collectable plates otherwise
Date: October 7th, 2005 4:15 PM Author: Milky theatre
there is a cost associated with giving kids up for adoption, and all I'm saying is let the market act efficiently. people can still have abortions if they wish. How can anyone be pro-choice but not for this choice?
The bitch only cares about herself, what do you expect? Ironically she's probably one of the best examples of why abortions should remain legal, do you really want this selfish cunt to be raising children when all she cares about is her own comfort and well-being? SOmeone needs to shove a broomstick up her ass.
If? You're a dumb bitch aren't ya? What, are you making the decision for the good of the fetus? Fucking cunt. You see nothing morally wrong because you're a fucked up piece of shit.
Sex carries the risk of having children. If you're not responsible enough to assume that risk, then don't fuck vaginally, loosen up that rectum, or become an oral queen. Life isn't always about what's best for oneself you selfish whore of a cunt. With all the contraceptive options available today the risk of pregnancy is greatly diminished so in the slight chance you do get pregnant, step up to the fucking plate. You're a worthless piece of shit.
Date: October 7th, 2005 4:08 PM Author: Milky theatre
honestly though, the real question is that if we think abortions are so bad, and people (supposedly) want to adopt, why don't we let couples compensate women for having the child and not getting an abortion? that's fucked up policy right there.
Date: October 7th, 2005 4:13 PM Author: Milky theatre
come on, there are significant personal costs associated with having a baby and giving it up for adoption. I doubt anyone would do it as a living. and even if that were to happen, it would be self defeating, as the market price would collapse under such behavior
Women don't use abortion as a form of birth control because it's too expensive. What they do do however is become lax, irresponsible, and inconsistent with other forms of birth control because they know there's always that backup option. So in a sense it is a very real form of birth control.
You want them to have the baby for you? Men have no say in the matter, so it's all on the woman. If she has the abortion, it is 100% her fault because she has 100% control. Way to pass responsibility though. HTH bitch.
Men actually do have some control over birth control decisions, and they would be wise to exert some of this control if they do not want to face the possibility of
a. having to pay to support the child OR
b. having to be angry and hateful toward the woman in the situation because she had an abortion
Oh, sorry, didn't realize guys could hold a woman captive for 9 months and force her not to have an abortion. I also didn't realize they could stick a coat hangar up her pussy. Thanks for clearing that up.
I beg your pardon? This makes no sense. I was saying that men help to create a child, so they bear some responsibility for birth control as well as for supporting a child once it is born.
I'm suprised that the willingness to have an abortion in the event of an accidental pregnancy isn't considered a plus by more guys. Do you really want the only thing standing between you and owning a minivan to be a hundreth of an inch of latex?
I hate people who have proven themselves to be despiccable shit-eating faggots; why do you hate human life that has done nothing to demonstrate horrible qualities?