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Date: October 2nd, 2015 9:36 PM Author: rebellious mint abode genital piercing
You're not ready for biglaw.
Message goes to intended recipients ordered by relative importance. CCs are the recipients ordered by relative importance.
Generally it is Client>Important Partners>Non-important Partners>Associates ordered by importance and relevance, but this is e-mail specific and you should conduct and analysis based on the situation.
If you think I am flaming I assure you I am not.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#28887489) |
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Date: January 21st, 2015 11:41 PM Author: comical station
Sounds like local counsel fucked up huge if they didn't clue you in on filing deadline. Describe communication issues?
I always read the local rules start to finish when I have a case in a dst im not familiar with. Saved our ass one time on filing a responsive motion. I'd submitted it to the partner to review two days before, then called him day of (he was out of town on a depo). I was like yeahhh we kind of have to file by midnight. He reviewed them on the plane, said papers were great and I got it filed by 11:50.
Next day he bitched the paralegal out like crazy and said "you would have fucked us if pumo hadn't saved our ass." She tried to argue about the deadline claiming it was a week later (our local rules) and the partner screamed at her some more.
Partner was more dickish to her than justified, shocker, but I won a ton of credibility with him.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#27162304) |
Date: January 21st, 2015 10:57 PM Author: Motley Pearly Brunch Main People
I've never worked biglaw, but I spent a few years at this boutique firm that considered themselves competitors with biglaw firms.
In my interview I completely lied when they asked about my computer experience. I said I could build a computer from scratch or something like that. The partner was so impressed he said I would earn my keep just helping out with the various computer problems around the office.
I had my black lab at the time and she was old. For lunch I'd drive home, walk her around the block, hit the vape real quick and go back to the office. My job was boring as fuck.
I was only there a couple of months when I saw that I couldn't save anything on my firm laptop because the IT guy loaded the entire firm's files on it. To create space I decided to delete one of the partner's files from my laptop.
The fuckup was that when I deleted that partner's files my laptop was plugged into the server. I hit 'delete', confirmed (I was given admin privileges by my partner) the delete command, and went to lunch.
When I got back from lunch, stoned, everyone was freaking out, especially the partner who was literally watching his files being deleted in front of his eyes.
Telling them it was my fault was a total buzzkill.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#27161974) |
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Date: January 21st, 2015 11:11 PM Author: Motley Pearly Brunch Main People
No, I lasted there two years and then was laid off. I do think my days were numbered after that. Absolutely miserable job. Hated my partner more than anyone.
I ran into the fucker in court once about a year or so later. I was unemployed for almost a year when I finally got hired at a new firm.
My client was sitting next to me and she didn't speak any English, only Spanish. He comes up to me and says hello. I don't stand up or shake his hand. I think I just looked at him. He goes, "Can we talk over here for a second?"
He asks me who I'm working for, what I'm doing? I give him some terse, sarcastic answers before he goes, "Well, I just wanted to say hello because it would have been weird if I didn't," and I just walked away from him.
He sat across from my client and me. I started trash talking him in Spanish to my client who wouldn't stop laughing. I was calling him all sorts of curse words and shit. Made my day.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#27162103) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2015 4:32 PM Author: Motley Pearly Brunch Main People
Funny you say that. My partner who was in his late 50s was up on all the latest technology. Paperless files.
They had this small IT firm on contract. A father and his son ran it and they were both complete fucking idiots, but my partner was loyal to them for some reason, even after they didn't have a working backup system in place.
Whenever there was a problem, we'd have to call them and schedule a time for them to come out. I think they figured that there would be problems I was qualified to solve quickly without having to call the IT guys.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#27165638) |
Date: January 21st, 2015 11:46 PM Author: cerise native
We had a footnote that said "x is not y," and it turns out that "x was sort of y" in connection with one of the documents. it was a little dicey either way, but it was a super important fact and i disclosed right away.
partner didn't give a shit.
But i'm pretty careless, I caught a TON of horrible mistakes that would have been career ending because of ADDERRAL.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#27162339) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2015 12:25 AM Author: odious flesh plaza
Partner: So we need to file this doc with the government?
Pumo: OFS!
Partner: File it.
*2 weeks later*
Govt: Why did you file this with us? We don't need it.
Pumo to Partner: Ok, filing has been done.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#27162545) |
Date: January 22nd, 2015 12:10 AM Author: appetizing love of her life lay
Forgot about a (minor) regulatory deadline until the day before it was due. Client had to ask the regulator for an extension the day before -- which we got, but they* were pissed. Would have been far worse if I'd missed it altogether, but still caught some shit for it.
*by "they" I mean some total flunky in their in-house group who was not even a lawyer and probably made ~$100k and whose only solace in life was attempting to boss "biglawyers" around. This wasn't even on the radar of anyone important.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#27162475) |
Date: January 22nd, 2015 12:27 AM Author: mind-boggling light trailer park
must suck to work where this shit matters
in shitgov, people straight lie in briefs, misinterpret every case, and just generally dont proof read anything. it's 180.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#27162554) |
Date: January 22nd, 2015 1:02 AM Author: cerebral tripping lettuce preventive strike
Was assisting a partner on part of a case, but I was not in the loop on a lot of what was going on in the case. Not a big case, bench trial. Partner had me send an agreed order to set the trial date to opposing counsel. I expected the other side to get back to me, so I was waiting to put the trial date on the firm calendar once they got back to me. I never heard anything back, and forgot about it, assuming that the partner had dealt with opposing counsel on it. Somehow (still not sure how) the trial date was set without me or the partner ever finding out. We get a call 2-3 months later one morning from the judges office, saying that everyone was ready and waiting in court, and where were we. Partner had to run from his desk to the courthouse to get an extension. Thankfully the judge and opposing counsel were ok with continuing it several weeks, and it worked out ok for the client.
I was mortified. Offered to resign. Partner was cool about it, joked that I would never make this mistake again. Still here several years later.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#27162690) |
Date: January 22nd, 2015 2:27 AM Author: Exhilarant Misunderstood Church Weed Whacker
Q for all the biglaw peeps in here:
how do i subpoena a biglaw firm for the non-privileged documents in a transaction they did?
defendants in our case did a transaction where Biglaw & Co. was the adviser. partner at Biglaw & Co. has agreed to accept subpoena for all documents, without waiving privilege.
what do i ask for?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#27162873)
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Date: January 22nd, 2015 9:49 AM Author: Nudist gas station shitlib
I had my share of routine fuck-ups-- missing an email from a parter, not quadruple-checking to make sure a partner didn't miss an email from me, etc.-- but my biggest ONE | WRONG | MOVE was something that, when I did it, seemed completely harmless: I got really good at navigating the shitty data room software and getting around the productivity-destroying "security" features they have (e.g., I had a greasemonkey script at the time that could usually evade any purported anti-downloading features, then I could run the PDF's through our own OCR to make them searchable). Seems harmless, right? Wrong.
People who have been in biglaw for a while already know where this is going: Suddenly, I became the guy for any and all non-trivial data room related tasks, even on deals I wasn't really on. "Oh hi, this is senior associate x on matter y... we got you data room access. Can you download all the contracts? And flag any that have a provision that might be triggered by a change of control? Is it possible to organize them by counterparty?"
This was easy billables and nobody really questioned hours put into it, but the assignments themselves were terrible. Being the "trusted" person with a shit task is the worst of both worlds in biglaw.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#27163453) |
Date: January 22nd, 2015 10:34 AM Author: aromatic corner azn
I had a case for a bank client and they gave me their bottom line settlement demand.
I thought I wrote it down in the file, but I didn't.
Anyway, opposing counsel calls a few days later and asks me my bottom line demand. Because I was under some time crunch in another case, I didn't check back with the client and gave him the $ figure I thought I remembered.
He called back the next day and accepted.
I called my client to give him the good news that opposing counsel offered X and he said, "Rudolph, will he move some more, that's $10,000 below our bottom line number."
I responded with something like, let me see what I can do.
I did nothing for 3 days and called the client back and said he isn't moving and the client mercifully decided to take it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#27163606) |
Date: January 22nd, 2015 11:25 AM Author: onyx spot gunner
Two mistakes in same case.
1) We had rogs due. I sent them to OC on a CD because I was rushed for time. When they got it the CD had a virus on it (fucking IT) and brought down the opposing firms system for like 15 minutes. (This was a V5 firm). They were pissed because my answers weren't even available lol.
2) I was managing a document production around 40k for same case. I distributed it jr. associates. Had everything redacted re-recopied and burnt on CDS. Well I also had like a summary of the doc's highlights and condensed version for internal use. One of the fucking jr.'s put it on the bottom of the stack of docks and it literally got sent to opposing counsel. They sent it back saying 'think this is privileged...' directly to head partner. I was fucking screamed at so badly.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#27163818) |
Date: January 22nd, 2015 11:58 AM Author: Spectacular Indecent School
I was cced on an email between a partner and client about setting up a time to talk about some work they were interested in. At some point, a calendar invite for a 1 hr con call was distributed and I accepted, assuming that I had nothing much to do with the call and was just going to sort of listen while screwing around on the internet and take a few notes.
3 minutes into the call, the partner emails me to say 'I am going to finish warming them up and then you can take over.' This is the first time I had been given any indication that I was to do anything at all with this call as I was pretty junior and had never even spoken to the client and had no idea what we were supposed to be doing. I began winging it and the partner kept emailing me "helpful" notes about my performance. At some point near the end of this tortuous call that I somehow bluffed my way through, the partner emails me with subject "Feedback" and says he needs to talk to me after the call. Obviously this is not a helpful email.
After the call, he criticized me for sounding uncertain when answering detailed questions related to an area of law I am in no way an expert in and making the client think that we had not spoken beforehand and were "not on the same page." I apologized profusely.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#27163975) |
Date: January 22nd, 2015 4:03 PM Author: Blue provocative bbw
Inserted the wrong company's figures into cap table of a prelim OM that went out to investors LOL. Had to do a supplement and shit afterwards to fix it. Company was chill as fuck about it though because the incorrect numbers were better than their real shit. Investors got creamlied lmao
I lied to partner and said the printers fucked it up. He gave me an hour lecture about attention to detail. 180000.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#27165433) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2015 1:09 AM Author: talented orchid corn cake
nice predator reference.
when it comes to summers, you have to be stealth. several years ago, I was at a summer event with a drunk SA who was falling all over me. an aspie counsel-level lawyer saw what was going on and immediately pulled me aside, warning that "if you value your job here, this ends now." I fucked her anyway. the key? neither of us told a soul.
she was the third one.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#27169312) |
Date: October 2nd, 2015 5:18 PM Author: bipolar alcoholic ape school cafeteria
Step 1: Write an add-on for Outlook that let's you tag email addresses as "firm," "client," or "opposing counsel". If you ever write an email addressed to both "opposing counsel" and ("firm" or "client") Outlook pops up a box asking whether are you sure you want to send this email to both "opposing counsel" + ("firm" or "client").
Step 2: Profit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#28886097)
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Date: October 2nd, 2015 8:26 PM Author: glittery set juggernaut
so many big mistakes
+ scheduled depo with important third-party W whose favor we had to win. didn't make it clear to W that the dep was rescheduled, W showed up to empty conference room.
+ filed major MSJ, where the key arg was "SEC filing says X." turns out that SEC filing was amended to say "SEC filing says NOT X"
+ filed major post-trial brief w/citations that didn't make sense. like it'd cite to dep transcript and the cited lines would just refer be like "Hello, My name is X"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#28887039) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2015 9:06 AM Author: metal duck-like orchestra pit
LMAO, I really want to see this play out in a deposition.
"I'm now presenting you with Plaintiff's Exhibit A. Can you identify this for me?"
"Yes, it looks like [DOCUMENT]."
"And there appears to be a stain of some kind on it, what would you say that stain is?"
"It appears to be orange chicken."
"Thank you, I have nothing further."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#28889824) |
Date: October 2nd, 2015 9:18 PM Author: Unholy magical casino
Enormous case big research task we are working like mad. See a case on point and flip it to the senior saying this is interesting. Go on to other things. Senior is like damn this is good who takes it to the partner who tells the client we figured it out!
I didn't shepardize it. We didn't figure it out. Got tucking reamed for hours by an autistic partner. Sneered out by senior. Next two months they basically haze me with bullshit as punishment.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#28887386) |
Date: October 2nd, 2015 9:32 PM Author: Rusted Greedy Garrison Ladyboy
Local counsel for a case was the only person on ECF for a while and didn't tell us (or notice) a partial motion to dismiss. We missed the deadline, and defaulted on the partial MtD. Client fired local counsel.
Personally, as a super junior associate, I spent 20-30 hours adding record citations to an appellate brief, but it was one of those thing where the partner had written the factual section of the brief as to what he wanted it to be, and not what the record actual said, so basically, I couldn't find citations to any of it, but just put in the closest. We got called out by the other side about how shitty our citations were, and the client was pissed that they'd paid tens of thousands of dollars for me to do to citations and they were not accurate.
In retrospect, I should have had a difficult conversation with the partner and told him what he wrote in the factual section was not supported by the record, and he just needed to re-write it or know that the citations were no good. I didn't do that. I honestly was sick to my stomach for three days, but I didn't get dinged on it in a review or anything.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#28887463) |
Date: October 2nd, 2015 9:59 PM Author: Crimson Tantric Rigpig Public Bath
i think this is why corp is better. notice how most of these are lit?
you can really only fuck up so much in corp if you have good common sense.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#28887693) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2015 8:38 AM Author: Crimson Tantric Rigpig Public Bath
As you get more senior Corp gets better though. I'm just a newly minted 4 th year but I delegate that type of shit work to juniors and just double check it, which is easy enough.
But junior Corp work is truly awful. Then again, doc review is pretty terrible too.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#28889776)
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Date: October 3rd, 2015 8:36 AM Author: fighting cracking police squad
I had no idea how or where to file a suit against the State in a property matter.
Did my best, and left the firm soon after. I always wonder how that case resolved.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788440&forum_id=2#28889775) |
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