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Guy who fired Tucker Max is teacher at Boalt!

John Steele, then Partner at Fenwick & West, fired Tucke...
amber multi-billionaire
  11/06/05
Does Hypocrisy blow my mind? No, I am above the age of 8.
razzle-dazzle nursing home milk
  11/06/05
Oh. I thought this was a major find. I was planning to cal...
amber multi-billionaire
  11/06/05
ha ha
stirring mauve pit
  11/06/05
I don't really get why it's unethical to fire an employee wh...
copper keepsake machete
  11/06/05
unethical because he engaged in price fixing, dumbshit.
Insecure volcanic crater cruise ship
  11/07/05
Bump! Hell, doesn't anyone care about this??? He gave all o...
amber multi-billionaire
  11/06/05
This doesn't seem to be unethical by any of the standards go...
Sadistic Home
  11/06/05
oh. Well that takes the wind out of my sails quite a bit.
amber multi-billionaire
  11/06/05
basically. why do you think the primary market salaries are...
Arousing Location Goyim
  11/06/05
I understand that you are right, but how he is portrayed in ...
amber multi-billionaire
  11/06/05
he *has* to make that impression to be a credible ethics ins...
Arousing Location Goyim
  11/06/05
Would he be annoyed if I asked him about Tucker Max? Are an...
amber multi-billionaire
  11/06/05
it's basically the same class, with a slighly different pers...
Arousing Location Goyim
  11/06/05
are you kidding me?? this is such an old story. Steele eve...
Violet chapel persian
  11/07/05
um, since neither of us have taken that class, we wouldn't k...
Arousing Location Goyim
  11/07/05
OMG OMG OMG OMG apparently not.
Ungodly immigrant
  11/06/05
What blows my mind is the utter idiocy of this Tucker Max ch...
Hyperactive bearded locus boiling water
  11/06/05
agree.... what was the point the op was trying to make?
yellow range
  11/06/05
I was just saying that I was pretty freaking surprised it wa...
amber multi-billionaire
  11/06/05
he did have a pretty funny story about fucking some chick in...
cracking tanning salon queen of the night
  11/06/05
some derranged beauty queen sued him for the stuff he said a...
Arousing Location Goyim
  11/06/05
Is he not generally well respected here? TM is my whole insp...
Sticky kitchen bbw
  11/07/05
TM > everything
Appetizing Cobalt Scourge Upon The Earth Haunted Graveyard
  02/08/06


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Date: November 6th, 2005 8:30 PM
Author: amber multi-billionaire

John Steele, then Partner at Fenwick & West, fired Tucker Max in the charity auction story.

http://www.tuckermax.com/archives/entries/the_now_infamous_tucker_max_charity_auction_debacle.phtml#703

Tucker quotes him as price fixing SA salaries : “Yeah, what kills me is that we had a deal with Wilson and Cooley. We all agreed to pay $2,100. We talked about it, and figured as long as all of us did it, we could get away with it. But as soon as we announced, that message board blew up, and Wilson bailed on us and paid $2,400. That thing is something else.”

He is also an ethics teacher at Boalt.

http://www.fr.com/directory/directory.cfm?aid=682&lit=0

Does this blow anyone else's mind?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4229063)





Date: November 6th, 2005 8:32 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle nursing home milk

Does Hypocrisy blow my mind?

No, I am above the age of 8.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4229094)





Date: November 6th, 2005 8:33 PM
Author: amber multi-billionaire

Oh. I thought this was a major find. I was planning to call it Steelegate or something similar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4229099)





Date: November 6th, 2005 11:03 PM
Author: stirring mauve pit

ha ha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4230584)





Date: November 6th, 2005 10:33 PM
Author: copper keepsake machete

I don't really get why it's unethical to fire an employee who's been given about 20 chances and f*cked up every time... maybe I'm slow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4230309)





Date: November 7th, 2005 1:18 AM
Author: Insecure volcanic crater cruise ship

unethical because he engaged in price fixing, dumbshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4232107)





Date: November 6th, 2005 8:47 PM
Author: amber multi-billionaire

Bump! Hell, doesn't anyone care about this??? He gave all of the 1Ls a long lecture on how we need to guard against temptations of unethical acts! His class is required to graduate!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4229237)





Date: November 6th, 2005 8:49 PM
Author: Sadistic Home

This doesn't seem to be unethical by any of the standards governing attorneys. It's also not price-fixing, it's salary-fixing. Firms all over the country do it, both for bonuses and salaries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4229250)





Date: November 6th, 2005 8:49 PM
Author: amber multi-billionaire

oh. Well that takes the wind out of my sails quite a bit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4229256)





Date: November 6th, 2005 8:55 PM
Author: Arousing Location Goyim

basically. why do you think the primary market salaries are still at 125k? hell, COL goes up faster than law salaries have as of late.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4229302)





Date: November 6th, 2005 8:57 PM
Author: amber multi-billionaire

I understand that you are right, but how he is portrayed in the TM story is very different than the impression he gave off when he gave the ethics lecture to us all a month ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4229335)





Date: November 6th, 2005 9:00 PM
Author: Arousing Location Goyim

he *has* to make that impression to be a credible ethics instructor. but don't worry about it much. it's an easy class that's taught at night. most people don't go and do well. i have a buddy whose exam is sometimes passed out as a model answer and he said he bullshitted the whole thing for a HH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4229390)





Date: November 6th, 2005 9:01 PM
Author: amber multi-billionaire

Would he be annoyed if I asked him about Tucker Max? Are any of the other ethics classes worthwile, like "ethics in non-firm practice"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4229405)





Date: November 6th, 2005 9:03 PM
Author: Arousing Location Goyim

it's basically the same class, with a slighly different perspective. it really doesn't matter which one you take. neither one is better than the other. i am taking the non-firm one to fulfill the req. even though i'll be working at a firm.

edit: i think an ethics instructor ought to be open to such questions. you should definitely ask. i can't promise you that he won't bullshit his way out of it, but yeah, try.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4229427)





Date: November 7th, 2005 1:44 AM
Author: Violet chapel persian

are you kidding me?? this is such an old story. Steele even talks about it in class, mentions the website, and we all have a laugh about it and move on. If you're this easily shocked you're going to have a really hard time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4232331)





Date: November 7th, 2005 1:48 AM
Author: Arousing Location Goyim

um, since neither of us have taken that class, we wouldn't know that he talks about the incident. i guess we can look forward to steele's version when we do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4232359)





Date: November 6th, 2005 8:50 PM
Author: Ungodly immigrant

OMG OMG OMG OMG apparently not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4229263)





Date: November 6th, 2005 9:40 PM
Author: Hyperactive bearded locus boiling water

What blows my mind is the utter idiocy of this Tucker Max character.

First, I have serious doubts as to the veracity of the story.

Second, even if it were true, all it shows is that this guy Max is a giant douchebag-loser-fucker.

OP: I'm not sure why you think it's odd that Steele teaches ethics. In that entire horribly-written story, the only unethical behavior I could identify came from the author.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4229830)





Date: November 6th, 2005 9:50 PM
Author: yellow range

agree.... what was the point the op was trying to make?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4229967)





Date: November 6th, 2005 10:59 PM
Author: amber multi-billionaire

I was just saying that I was pretty freaking surprised it was the same John Steele who spoke to us at that presentation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4230560)





Date: November 6th, 2005 10:21 PM
Author: cracking tanning salon queen of the night

he did have a pretty funny story about fucking some chick in the ass though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4230216)





Date: November 6th, 2005 10:25 PM
Author: Arousing Location Goyim

some derranged beauty queen sued him for the stuff he said about their alleged relationship on his site.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4230246)





Date: November 7th, 2005 12:44 AM
Author: Sticky kitchen bbw

Is he not generally well respected here? TM is my whole inspiration for going to law school......

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#4231753)





Date: February 8th, 2006 9:45 AM
Author: Appetizing Cobalt Scourge Upon The Earth Haunted Graveyard

TM > everything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=293338&forum_id=2#5027381)