Ethical guy here: society CANNOT have HONEST discussion about SEX/RAPE/ASSAULT
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Date: November 9th, 2017 6:12 PM Author: ruby at-the-ready field dysfunction
Men are expected to "make the first move," and to "go for it," and as Louis C.K. once pointed out in a funny bit, women are actively TURNED OFF if the guy doesn't.
This doesn't excuse predatory sexual assault. When she's super fucking drunk or passed out or the guy pressures her and she clearly says no.
But there are way, WAY, WAY too many women out there who say "no" and -- this is the especially impossible to have conversation -- they mean "I want to give the perception of not being a slut," so the no really becomes "yes" after some pestering.
Now we're criminalizing through the press, these aren't even things that will be resolved in court or charged by the cops, with defamation of events that occurred YEARS ago.
How the fuck are we to explain a first date at a bar, you walk outside, she's headed home and you go in for that kiss. She isn't sure she wanted to, but did it any way, you never asked for permission, she's not materially harmed in any way from it, and she actually leaves thinking, "OK he's into me, even if I am not sure."
With the way women are acting today, that's ASSAULT and she's a #METOO ***VICTIM*** of the event.
Again, there are clearly boundary lines here. But we cannot have an honest discussion of them. And until we do, significant portions of men will go on thinking the whole sexual assault complex is a sham, as almost every one of them could be accused of doing the same. Oddly, to these guys, the women seemed to want it, to desire it, to NEED it, in order to proceed romantically. Look at DBG as an example: his soon-to-be wife literally accuses him of raping her early on in the relationship. She's doing nothing about it. But did that stop her from fucking him repeatedly? From marrying him? And how will she "use" this later in life against him?
It's total bullshit and just another extension of "feminism" becoming a mish-mash of man-hating, victim-worshipping, and media-obsessing.
And don't get me started on the fact that in every single committed relationship I've had, each girl has "gotten off" on rape play, or maybe better put as "non-consensual" play where she even says "no, no," but it's well understood she's just "acting" and then gets overpowered by me fucking her.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3791183&forum_id=2#34646332) |
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Date: November 9th, 2017 7:15 PM Author: Floppy set
it isnt about chaste/slut.
most of these 'scandals' involve nothing more than a sexual comment or very mild physical contact.
even with a 'good' girl a guy is going to have to test the waters in some way, eventually.
either (a) we need to become a race of autistics;
(b) accept that every man will have a gun pointed at his head his whole life that some woman can fire off when she needs attention; or
(c) get serious and stop indulging dumb women on this crap.
harvey did nothing wrong. (well, unless he did.)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3791183&forum_id=2#34646858)
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