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what rank at fordham for cravath?
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:06 PM Author: spectacular plum macaca For at least an interview. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361332) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:31 PM Author: Sapphire Stimulating Point Genital Piercing You have to be a tenured professor at Fordham. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906790) |
Date: March 17th, 2006 5:07 PM Author: Curious laser beams cravath is serously an unprestigious sweatshop that'll take ANYONE from HYS. But for fordham, you need top 15% probably. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361340) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:11 PM Author: spectacular plum macaca Any Fordham students know better than MDH, who is clearly prestigious, but clueless about Fordham. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361359) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:14 PM Author: shimmering angry faggot firefighter knife top 10%, probably, unless you bid them number 1 or 2, in which case you'll almost definitely get a screening interview regardless of rank. i didn't even bid them last year, so i don't know if numbers woulda cut it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361378) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:16 PM Author: spectacular plum macaca Cool, how hard is it to get a job there once you make the cutoff? Obviously fit comes into play, but do you really have to be like top 1% or something? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361393) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:27 PM Author: shimmering angry faggot firefighter knife it looks like they give callbacks to about half the people they screen at fordham, and offers to most of those they callback. fall 2004 was 19 callbacks, 13 offers. most prior years it was more like 5 callback, 5 offers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361482) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:31 PM Author: spectacular plum macaca Thanks a lot for that info. My life plan is to go to Fordham and work at Cravath. The Cravath part has been my plan since high school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361521) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:36 PM Author: vivacious brindle bawdyhouse Interesting. Why is this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361573) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:41 PM Author: spectacular plum macaca There was an article about biglaw in the NYT and the white shoe firm they referred to was Cravath. I then began to do research on law as a career and firms themselves, mainly Cravath, and the tightknit family qualities of Cravath really attract me. I also like how they are focused in NYC and the only little satellite office is in London (it would be cool to summer there!) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361612) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:44 PM Author: excitant sick messiness If this was your goal since high school, why didn't you do better in college/LSAT and get into a decent school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361640) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:45 PM Author: spectacular plum macaca I got really stoned the day before the lsat. I also had bad cravings for a cigarette during it. I'm a ttt. Fordham is a very good school, fuck what you people think otherwise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361646) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:54 PM Author: Carmine Exhilarant Round Eye Mexican are fucking serious? you think you wouldve done better on the lsat if you hadnt gotten high the day BEFORE? why not take it again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5362185) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 2:48 PM Author: soul-stirring rambunctious chapel you're such an idiot. do you think that getting stoned prior to the exam excuses your poor score? why do you even bother to consistently reiterate this pathetic aspect of your application cycle? you had so many options: cancel, postpone, retake. your mistake wasn't getting stoned, it was your inability to strategize, an albatross you will carry forever. no matter how hard you troll for Fordham, you can not disguise your eternal TTTness. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5907066) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:57 PM Author: vivacious brindle bawdyhouse They have had some interesting cases in their lit history. Have you read "The Partners" by James B Stewart? he's a former associate there who went on to publish/edit (?) American Lawyer. Good stuff on the AT&T trials (prominantly featuring Boies). I was a para there for a little over a year. Didn't strike me as a tight knit place from observations and talking with younger associates, but who the fuck knows. Paras see so goddamned little, through bleary eyes to boot. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:59 PM Author: spectacular plum macaca Interesting. I'm going to check out that book. How bad are the hours from what you did see? I meant tight knit in the sense of lockstep raises, staying with your class forever, never letting outsiders in. Seems like my kind of place. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361776) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:03 PM Author: vivacious brindle bawdyhouse Hours seemed completely miserable, especially for first years. I pulled 80-90 during busy cycles as a para (doc review, discovery pushes, ramp up before filings) and the associates were always a little more than that. It was busy more than it wasn't. I was also under a partner who had busy/good cases. Some of the older partners had slower/less cases and their associates probably did too. I'm sure someone here knows a lot more about this. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:04 PM Author: spectacular plum macaca Goddamn that's brutal. The hours are what keep me from committing myself to biglaw. I need to be able to have down time and foster a relationship with a woman. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361831) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:07 PM Author: vivacious brindle bawdyhouse I fostered relationships with strange russians on the F-train on the way to work on weekends, and with foreigners who had the city's traffic problems worked out in their heads in car service home. So all's not lost.
Seriously, check out that book. The Cravath chapter makes them sound sweet as fuck, and the other chapters give a nice look at the culture and values of the other big NYC firms, at least the culture in the 70's. |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 12:51 PM Author: Vibrant people who are hurt ANNOUNCEMENT: THIS FUCKER IS A LOSER WHO SPENDS ALL OF HIS TIME ON THIS BOARD. HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT NOTHING, AND CONSISTENTLY TALKS OUT OF HIS ASS. HTH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906678) |
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Date: August 4th, 2006 4:28 PM Author: lime box office ORLY? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#6378351) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:14 PM Author: Gold Immigrant my guess is top 10% to get an interview, top 5% to have any sort of realistic chance.
EDIT: I don't go to Fordham, so take anything i say with a grain of salt. but that seems pretty accurate to me. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:17 PM Author: spectacular plum macaca Seems to fit in with some of what the other poster from Fordham said. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361395) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:18 PM Author: Yellow Anal Indirect Expression Theatre i would make the #1 student and the #2 student fight to the death. then i'd tell the winner that we don't have any spots open. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361404) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:18 PM Author: spectacular plum macaca You're an odd one dood. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361411) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 12:43 PM Author: Violent church philosopher-king FRAUDULENTINDUCEMENTPWN3D (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906663) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:35 PM Author: Odious Sandwich Orchestra Pit TRANSFERTOCN% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5362074) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:52 PM Author: Carmine Exhilarant Round Eye Mexican " and the tightknit family qualities of Cravath really attract me. "
LOL |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 12:39 PM Author: Mustard den mother What's funny? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906652) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:24 PM Author: Pearly Associate Stage I've never heard of anyone working there and not hating it and wanting to kill themselves everyday.
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:24 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal legend Does this differ from other biglaw firms? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906767) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:36 PM Author: silver swollen legal warrant native the V5 firms are the worst of the worst to work for. they don't get those rankings by being nice to associates. they love to trick newly minted lawyers who come from poor backgrounds into working crazy hours by throwing around words like prestigious and V5.
the partners laugh all the way to the bank (actually they send someone else to the bank because they don't have time to go) because they pay about the same as everyone else yet get the associates to work significantly more time
here's what happens to suckers who buy into the mythology; http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=426082&mc=64&forum_id=2 |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:36 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal legend Thanks for the warning. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906811) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:46 PM Author: High-end Roast Beef Don't listen to him, biglaw is great. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906842) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:54 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal legend I don't believe you. Please post a pic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906872) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 2:18 PM Author: Pearly Associate Stage I've heard good things about Latham and Cleary if the V5 distinction isn't important to you.
That said, I haven't heard nearly the terrible things about Sully or DP that I have about Cravath. |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 2:26 PM Author: hideous razzle-dazzle stock car From anecdotal evidence S&C, DP, Simpson, and others all sound pretty sweet compared to Cravath and Skadden. This is if you believe random shit on message boards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906978) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 2:30 PM Author: High-end Roast Beef I live by things I read on message boards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906984) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 2:31 PM Author: hideous razzle-dazzle stock car Sucking dick on a regular basis helps keep your teeth white and shiny. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906988) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 2:31 PM Author: High-end Roast Beef Nice try. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906990) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 2:32 PM Author: Pearly Associate Stage It jives with what I hear IRL too. At least with regard to Cravath, SC and DP. The comments I hear on Skadden tend towards the middle (it sucks, but not more than it needs to) and I don't really hear much about Simpson. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906995) |
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Date: August 4th, 2006 4:32 PM Author: Honey-headed big stage regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#6378374) |
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Date: August 4th, 2006 5:54 PM Author: Boyish Sickened State Like all new Cravath associates, [William O.] Douglas quickly learned that the practice of law on Wall Street was a great deal less glamorous than he had imagined. New associates were crammed two to an office no bigger than a large closet and expected to bill three hundred hours per month. . . It was not unusual for his work day to last until two, three, or even four o'clock in the morning, whatever time it took to prepare the papers for the next day. Then, he rode the train home to Pelham for a couple hours of sleep, a shower, a fresh set of clothes, and a quick cup of coffee with Mildred before racing back to start the same cycle all over again.
--Bruce Allen Murphy, Wild Bill: The Life and Legend of William O. Douglas, p. 53
I wonder if anything has changed. |