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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:08 PM Author: Sable national The contrast of this description of California with the shit hole that I live in is stark. The state went from being paradise on Earth for the average man to some sort of proto American Brazil with gated communities protecting the Chinese from the Mexicans.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/07/california-dreamers/307484/
It was a magnificent run. From the end of the Second World War to the mid-1960s, California consolidated its position as an economic and technological colossus and emerged as the country’s dominant political, social, and cultural trendsetter. … In 1959, wages paid in Los Angeles’s working-class and solidly middle-class San Fernando Valley alone were higher than the total wages of 18 states.
It was a sweet, vivacious time: California’s children, swarming on all those new playgrounds, seemed healthier, happier, taller, and — thanks to that brilliantly clean sunshine — were blonder and more tan than kids in the rest of the country. For better and mostly for worse, it’s a time irretrievably lost. …
Starr consistently returns to his leitmotif: the California dream. By this he means something quite specific — and prosaic. California, as he’s argued in earlier volumes, promised “the highest possible life for the middle classes.” It wasn’t a paradise for world-beaters; rather, it offered “a better place for ordinary people.” That place always meant “an improved and more affordable domestic life”: a small but stylish and airy house marked by a fluidity of indoor and outdoor space … and a lush backyard — the stage, that is, for “family life in a sunny climate.” It also meant some public goods: decent roads, plentiful facilities for outdoor recreation, and the libraries and schools that helped produce the Los Angeles “common man” who, as that jaundiced easterner James M. Cain described him in 1933,” addresses you in easy grammar, completes his sentences, shows familiarity with good manners, and in addition gives you a pleasant smile.”
Until the Second World War, California had proffered this Good Life only to people already in the middle class — the small proprietors, farmers, and professionals, largely transplanted midwesterners … But the war and the decades-long boom that followed extended the California dream to a previously unimaginable number of Americans of modest means. Here Starr records how that dream possessed the national imagination … and how the Golden State — fleetingly, as it turns out — accomodated Americans’ “conviction that California was the best place in the nation to seek and attain a better life.” …
This dolce vita was, as Starr makes clear, a democratic one: the ranch houses with their sliding glass doors and orange trees in the backyard might have been more sprawling in La Canada and Orinda than they were in the working-class suburbs of Lakewood and Hayward, but family and social life in nearly all of them centered on the patio, the barbecue, and the swimming pool. The beaches were publicly owned and hence available to all — as were such glorious parks as Yosemite, Chico’s Bidwell, the East Bay’s Tilden, and San Diego’s Balboa. Golf and tennis, year-round California pursuits, had once been limited to the upper class, but thanks to proliferating publicly supported courses and courts (thousands of public tennis courts had already been built in L.A. in the 1930s), they became fully middle-class. This shared outdoor-oriented, informal California way of life democratized — some would say homogenized — a society made up of people of varying attainments and income levels. These people were overwhelmingly white and native-born, and their common culture revolved around nurturing and (publicly educating) their children. Until the 1980s, a California preppy was all but oxymoronic. True, the comprehensive high schools had commercial, vocational, and college-prep tracks (good grades in the last guaranteed admission to Berkeley or UCLA — times have definitely changed). But, as Starr concludes from his survey of yearbooks and other school records, “there remained a common experience, especially in athletics, and a mutual respect among young people heading in different directions.”
To a Californian today, much of what Starr chronicles is unrecognizable. (Astonishing fact: Ricky Nelson and the character he played in that quintessential idealization of suburbia, The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet, attended Hollywood High, a school that is now 75% Hispanic and that The New York Times accurately described in 2003 as a “typically overcrowded, vandalism-prone urban campuse.”) Granted, a version of the California Good Life can still be had — by those Starr calls the “fiercely competitive.” That’s just the heartbreak: most of us are merely ordinary. For nearly a century, California offered ordinary people better lives than they could lead perhaps anywhere else in the world. Today, reflecting our intensely stratified, increasingly mobile society, California affords the Good Life only to the most gifted and ambitious, regardless of their background. That’s a deeply undemocratic betrayal of California’s dream … |
Date: December 27th, 2017 1:09 PM Author: Smoky Cruise Ship Hissy Fit San Fran was once 90% whites (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018458) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:10 PM Author: histrionic mad-dog skullcap lol the whites in SF are the worst people on earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018464) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:13 PM Author: Smoky Cruise Ship Hissy Fit No argument here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018492) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:17 PM Author: idiotic immigrant place of business Bird Stomper's entire extended family is 4 generations of SF people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018519) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:19 PM Author: Pea-brained Base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018535) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:21 PM Author: Orange Library Azn SF whites = the strongest argument in favor of white genocide (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018554) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:19 PM Author: yapping exhilarant heaven dopamine "SF whites" post 2012 are all faggot NE/midwest transplants chasing tech $$. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018956) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:26 PM Author: Maroon tanning salon and they used to be conservative normies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018584) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:39 PM Author: Angry Stage Toaster There are still a few pockets of old school SF dagos. They've gotten rich off land appreciation but are quietly MAF at what's gone around them. (Not mad enough to rock the boat of course) I think I met like 3. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018694) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:43 PM Author: histrionic mad-dog skullcap there are also some MAF russian jews. I grew up in outer richmond, so I know a decent amount of these (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018710) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:47 PM Author: Smoky Cruise Ship Hissy Fit My grandparents and great grandparents were from San fran. My great uncle refused to sell his townhouse in the marina. I recall touring the city with him, driving through Castro "look at them all monkeying around." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018732) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:27 PM Author: thirsty circlehead home If ur Italian we're probably related thru marriage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019494) |
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Date: December 28th, 2017 8:46 AM Author: Angry Stage Toaster twist: ur wife is his second cousin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35024398) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:10 PM Author: motley ivory business firm famous landscape painting Whites - never not ruining the paradises they create out of guilt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018465) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:18 PM Author: Sable national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018524) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:11 PM Author: 180 disrespectful persian Curious how libs blame Conservaheros for this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018469) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 4:42 PM Author: slap-happy dilemma boiling water The rich corporations refuse to build affordable housing! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35020112) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:12 PM Author: Glassy Thriller Nursing Home This is the vision liberals have for the rest of the country (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018480) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:32 PM Author: Sable national California is a harbinger of what is to come for the rest of the U.S. if Libs aren't resisted (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018649) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:13 PM Author: Dull curious ladyboy mother This is so cr.
Cali is a fallen angel.
It's such a weird place now. Stunning natural beauty but a sense of hopelessness and unease that's almost palpable. |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:20 PM Author: Sable national As a new transplant it is really jarring. Everyone I meet wants to GTFO out of California regardless of income level. No one is hopeful for the future of the state. And yet, every day the weather is gorgeous and I go hiking in the mountains every week. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018545) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:59 PM Author: stimulating elastic band Talk to them after they move and bitch constantly about how much they miss California and how they wish they had done x (gone to Yosemite/Tahoe/the beach/hiking/etc.) more when they were there. And there are all of these silent benefits, like how most people who have allergies in the spring or fall in other parts of the country don't have them anymore. Or how there are no bugs. Another interesting artifact of the time described in the OP is that there are lots of affordable things to do/places to eat, even in SF and especially in LA and they're awesome, as opposed to most large metros where non-rich people are expected to eat sysco truck slop on the reg. The shittiest part of living in CA as a white, or worse an asian, is when your kids have to apply to college and you're like "yes, son, I know you got straight As and a 1580, but UC-Irvine is a perfectly good school." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019254) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:04 PM Author: effete legal warrant When Californians bitch about COL/taxes etc this needs to be posted (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019290) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:13 PM Author: Sable national My wife had horrible cedar allergies in Austin and doesn’t have to deal with that at all anymore. Hiking was a joke compared to California and involved suffocating heat for large chunks of the year. There is great ethnicity food 5 minutes from my house here and tons of things to do. California is great if you can live in the right areas and make tons of money.
I have met multiple people who talk about wanting to move to places like Houston or Waco without really understanding what it is like to deal with that heat and humidity year round. |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:18 PM Author: stimulating elastic band My goal is to leave Texas for CA for my kids childhood and then move them back when they are in high school to get in-state tuition and be the smartest people in their geographic demo. But agree that CA works much better when your HHI is at least 250k+. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019418) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 5:09 PM Author: Dull curious ladyboy mother Are you saying...you get what you pay for? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35020285) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 5:18 PM Author: histrionic mad-dog skullcap "an asian, is when your kids have to apply to college and you're like "yes, son, I know you got straight As and a 1580, but UC-Irvine is a perfectly good school."
outed as JJC/some other gooklib.
I got into almost every reasonably prominent private school I applied to as a native Californian with a 3.4 GPA and no extracurrics. u mad lib? |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 6:13 PM Author: infuriating rigor queen of the night (40 year old Fordham grad) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35020652) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:14 PM Author: wonderful rusted den twinkling uncleanness the part you're missing is when the Californian disease began to spread and infest other parts of the country, starting with Oregon in the 80s and now all over the nation including the heartland (Denver, Austin, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, and the rest in their crosshairs)
Californians tax and regulate themselves into oblivion then move in disgust, but then vote in taxes and regulations that make the new place they're infecting into another Californian hellscape. Then they spread to the next area and repeat. |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:14 PM Author: Smoky Cruise Ship Hissy Fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018499) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:15 PM Author: canary violent office hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018510) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:19 PM Author: Chestnut startled headpube this is the real scholarship here that needs to be explored
the real WALL needs to be around california, not mexico. the commiefornia filth needs to be contained and quarantined. they really are a disease that infects and destroys every host they encounter |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:20 PM Author: Pea-brained Base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018539) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:21 PM Author: yapping exhilarant heaven dopamine Californians don't know when to stop regulating.
California regulated offshore drilling and effluent dumping. Without that regulation, the beaches would be polluted shitholes covered in spilled oil and toxic paper mill waste byproducts, which would cost the state tons in healthcare spending and loss of tourism money.
Californians looked upon clean beaches, and decided regulation was good.
California then demanded asinine bullshit like habitats for the tiger salamander and snowy plover, two faggot animals we wouldn't miss if they disappeared, and happily drove the costs of development through the roof.
Californians looked upon low housing stock and high prices, and decided they would willingly ignore some of the root causes while complaining loudly about the symptoms. |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:19 PM Author: Racy Sweet Tailpipe Locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019427) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:32 PM Author: floppy sanctuary dysfunction Devastating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019557) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:22 PM Author: Sable national I lived in Austin and have seen first hand the damage Californians have done there. It went from being a cheap fun college town to a California-lite overpriced sweat box with total gridlock traffic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018559) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:37 PM Author: Territorial spot That happens all over.
NE transplants are going to do something similar to the sunbelt |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:38 PM Author: wonderful rusted den twinkling uncleanness lol Californians beat them to that years ago bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018679) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:54 PM Author: Drab juggernaut hairy legs http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3789179&mc=90&forum_id=2
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3785862&mc=9&forum_id=2
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:55 PM Author: Arousing tan piazza organic girlfriend The best cities tend to have good infrastructure, mass transit, a lot of density, government funded parks/recreation/museums, and a welcoming/non-provincial atmosphere (diversity, non-judgmental live and let live attitude). Conservatives usually don't have the political will or stomach to support the policies necessary to create those conditions. So they snipe from the sidelines (aka suburbs) but refuse to acknowledge that the cities are the lifeblood of the modern economy that they owe their fortune to.
This doesn't excuse the "lib excesses" everyone is talking about in this thread. But the notion that conservatives built these great cities that are now being ruined by evil liberals is preposterous. |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:57 PM Author: histrionic mad-dog skullcap "live and let live attitude"
as exhibited by no lib ever |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:02 PM Author: Pea-brained Base "We're super diverse and non-judgmental!!! Are you fucking manspreading? Don't you mansplain your manspreading you white male heteronormative privileged asshole!!!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018832) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:02 PM Author: Territorial spot "Diversity is the lifeblood of New York City", noted the dem donor from 740 Park Avenue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018835) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:00 PM Author: Smoky Cruise Ship Hissy Fit Yeah, lib run cities are great places to raise a family. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018820) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:02 PM Author: Sable national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018838) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:06 PM Author: Angry Stage Toaster lmao @ the amazing urban parks. Average downtown park is full of trash and bums. suburban parks are 40-50x nicer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018867) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:10 PM Author: Smoky Cruise Ship Hissy Fit My wife won't even entertain cutting through the park in front of my office downtown when visiting. It's covered in literal human filth. I also have to leave my "city shoes" in the garage when I get home. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018885) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:10 PM Author: Arousing tan piazza organic girlfriend You guys are missing the point. The suburbs wouldn't survive without the city you bitch about. And that city wouldn't be an attractive hub without some of the policies that guys like you bitch about. "Conservative Urban Planner" is an oxymoron because conservatives don't like cities, mass transit, or density (but of course they turn a blind eye to the economic activity that successful cities generate in our modern economy). So you guys bitch from the sidelines (with some legitimate points). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018889) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:14 PM Author: Angry Stage Toaster I live in a city you dolt, as do the vast majority of xo'ers. Despite the fact that I could obtain better services *and* lower taxes, by moving a couple miles away, across an imaginary line. we are victims of the policies we are bitching about (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018920) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:21 PM Author: Arousing tan piazza organic girlfriend Again, you turn a blind eye to the policies that led to the creation of a dense modern economic generator and then make some blanket "fuck libs" argument about a problem you have in the place you live. As I said in my initial post, it's fair to criticize certain liberal policies, but lol at the notion that conservatives today would ever set in motion the policies necessary to create a modern American city. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018972) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:26 PM Author: Angry Stage Toaster the "policies" that led to the creation of the city were easy access to a deepwater port and happenstance that the European explorers landed here and not six miles away. Once that infrastructure is in place, path reliance ensures that the city remains where it is. All the policies you're referring to came about hundreds of years after the fact. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019019) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:32 PM Author: Arousing tan piazza organic girlfriend "Once that infrastructure is in place, path reliance ensures that the city remains where it is. All the policies you're referring to came about hundreds of years after the fact."
You're merely explaining why political leadership would ultimately back policies supporting modern urbanization. If they have a successful economic generator, they're not going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. They are going to foster that growth, with what we would fairly characterize as liberal or at least non-conservative policies. A lot of modern conservatism is turning a blind eye to the benefits of urbanization while bemoaning any negative impacts. |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:24 PM Author: Racy Sweet Tailpipe Locale ljl this guy really believes this thread is about urbanization (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019456) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:27 PM Author: Territorial spot cr. modern day libs would FREAK OUT over 1920s NYC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019482) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:30 PM Author: Racy Sweet Tailpipe Locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019529) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:26 PM Author: aromatic senate filthpig your argument assumes the conclusion that lib policies are required for urban function (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019476) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:31 PM Author: Racy Sweet Tailpipe Locale he does assume this, this whole subthread of his is premised on it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019541) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:36 PM Author: stimulating elastic band No, that's bullshit. His argument is that lib policies and a general liberal bent are the unquestioned best practices in the field of urban planning, and that's basically true. Even odd counter examples like Houston's zoning ultimately fit because the people who plan the downtown/center city infrastructure believe in lib principles like more density and less cars = better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019596) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:55 PM Author: Arousing tan piazza organic girlfriend yep, thank you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019749) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 11:12 PM Author: fantasy-prone multi-billionaire explain the usefulness of living next to a bunch of violent blacks. where does that play a part in all of this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35022647) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:32 PM Author: stimulating elastic band TBF, the XO consensus policy goals 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 are stopping illegal immigration and deporting several million illegal immigrants, and there are a lot of them that would willingly go along with Euro social dem levels of public spending and infrastructure to get their immigration policy implemented. I think a majority or at least a big enough minority to form a dominant coalition would happily support a young, charismatic Bernie-platform-Dem who was hyperurbanist and pro-public transit and a universal living wage if he was also all for deporting 5 million Mexicans and cracking down on illegal immigration hard. The problem is this young, charismatic Bernie-Dem would also have to be white because a large chunk of them literally hate all non-white people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019554) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:34 PM Author: Racy Sweet Tailpipe Locale so a nationalist who happens also to be a socialist? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019568) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:35 PM Author: Sable national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019588) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:39 PM Author: stimulating elastic band But with the ability to dogwhistle instead of Trump's blatant race war fomenting. You need a lib who says "we aren't going to tell the world 'all 7 billion of you are welcome here.' That's not a workable plan. So as long as we're picking and choosing, we should be smart about how we do it, and maximize the benefit to ARE workers and ARE jobs, instead of crafting an immigration policy according to the Chamber of Commerce's wish list, which is basically how this country has done things for the past 50 years." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019613) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:55 PM Author: Racy Sweet Tailpipe Locale I’m sorry but the Left would scream “Nazi!!!” until they just couldn’t breathe
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Date: December 27th, 2017 4:13 PM Author: stimulating elastic band Contrary to XO fervent religious belief, most white and black liberals are not pro-open borders. You can get pretty far with the "this is why Canada and the Europeans get to have nice things and we don't" argument, especially when you make the Chamber of Commerce the boogeyman. They will fight very hard for amnesty, and that's annoying but workable. You're close enough to the point where most people lose interest and you can win the rest of the war in the trenches. E.g. "we only deport the criminals" a la what Trump's been doing, and "OK, if you've been here for 15 years we can look at a path to permanent residency, but if you came in 2014 and your whole family is in Mexico you can fuck off" and "we stop long chains of family linked immigration, but allow some expanded visa process that has many more controls and closer monitoring." And above all "e-verify asap with stringent enforcement." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019860) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 9:22 PM Author: boyish pozpig mexican "Contrary to XO fervent religious belief, most white and black liberals are not pro-open borders."
let me stop you right there, hoss |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 11:21 PM Author: vivacious really tough guy lolfuckingl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35022698) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 6:37 PM Author: spectacular light state a charismatic nazbol would win 350+ electoral votes, so you gotta wonder why nobody has tried it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35020795) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 8:24 PM Author: Flushed irradiated gas station stfu (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35021452) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 7:12 PM Author: Multi-colored cyan step-uncle's house sandwich http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3835373&mc=5&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35020995) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 5:15 PM Author: comical ebony gaping This is so stupid. What has made great cities goes so far beyond and predates whichever political team you’re rooting for. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35020324) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 8:26 PM Author: Vigorous sienna jap People far to the right of the modern Democrat party literally built everything that is good in the USA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35021462) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:55 PM Author: histrionic mad-dog skullcap actually not accurate. most of the Californians who leave are conservative, middle-class white families.
https://texaspolitics.utexas.edu/blog/californias-conservative-migration |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:16 PM Author: Slippery legend site doesn't it still have by far the highest GDP of any state in the union? Seems like its doing alright. CA is probably the only state that could exist without the rest of the USA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018511) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:17 PM Author: motley ivory business firm famous landscape painting (kike) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018520) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:23 PM Author: supple white chad TX could easily exist by itself It was literally its own country once. |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:24 PM Author: Glassy Thriller Nursing Home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018572) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:25 PM Author: Dull curious ladyboy mother Cr, Texas is the size of France. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018573) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:28 PM Author: Sable national So when the U.S. moves all of their military bases and NASA from Texas and then passes a bunch of rules to fuck over Texas they will be just fine? If they passed a rule saying no Military retiree could receive benefits if they didn't live in the U.S. San Antonio would turn into a ghost town overnight. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018609) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:40 PM Author: Glassy Thriller Nursing Home Dat Houston oil money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018697) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:05 PM Author: Sable national The U.S. government spends $9K per Texan, good luck when that goes away.
The federal government spent about $9,000 per Texan in 2010. The state spent $2,200 — one of the lowest outlays in the country, according to the National Association of State Budget Officers.
“If not for federal money, there just wouldn’t be much provided at all in some public services, and it’s pretty low to begin with,” said Eva De Luna Castro, a budget analyst for the Center for Public Policy Priorities in Austin, which advocates for poor and middle-income Texans. “We’re at the mercy of whatever happens in D.C.” |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:07 PM Author: Territorial spot just get everyone on the gov't teat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018869) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:08 PM Author: Glassy Thriller Nursing Home If all the poors/Mexicans/blacks left Texas would be amazing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018875) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:10 PM Author: Sable national You misspelled United States (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018892) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:06 PM Author: Slippery legend site cr. TX is heavily dependent on federal money and investment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018864) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:25 PM Author: Sable national No state would be fine without the rest of the US. If they were starting from scratch they would be fine, but not now. That is delusional thinking. The loss of the military spending alone would be devastating for places like San Diego. There would be a massive exodus of firms that makes Brexit look like nothing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018580) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:47 PM Author: Drab juggernaut hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018734) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:08 PM Author: Slippery legend site but is there a real risk that some foreign country would invade an independent former us state? seems like theyd be in no greater risk of foreign invasion than canada (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018877) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:15 PM Author: Sable national It is government spending that can't be replaced. Not just direct spending like employing Marines at Camp Pendleton, but government-funded research at the universities would go away and restrictions would be placed on selling to the U.S. government. Lots of tech companies and others make a ton of money selling to the U.S. government. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018925) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 6:57 PM Author: Chest-beating Flatulent Community Account Blood Rage Wouldn't the new government of CA just fund the equivalent amount of R&D and possibly even more? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35020922) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 7:10 PM Author: Sable national Research is a relatively minor issue. There are nearly 300,000 military + Fed civilian employees in California. Those jobs would be gone. The aerospace and defense industry would be destroyed. Any industry dependent on selling things to the other 49 states (most of them) would have an incentive to move their operations.
California’s success comes by accessing the common market and currency of the U.S., including vast financial, population, resources, water rights, etc. Once those things are restricted there would be dire financial impact. |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:27 PM Author: aromatic senate filthpig many states could easily exist without the rest of USA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019481) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 7:19 PM Author: Sable national Depends on the circumstances. Would be interesting to see someplace like Utah or Idaho try and become a North American Switzerland, free riding off U.S. defense spending and maintaining good relations with the rest of the country. But there are a myriad of ways the other states can and would fuck over any state that tried to leave the Union. They would make an example out of them. and the big states are heavily dependent on the U.S. government with massive military bases and federal funding for infrastructure and other programs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35021050) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:17 PM Author: idiotic immigrant place of business (Joan didion) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018514) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:38 PM Author: judgmental indigo menage let a bunch of beaners, chinks, turds and libs infest a place and it turns to shit. Weird. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018684) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:39 PM Author: Sable national Orange County used to be the most Republican county in the country and it is still probably the best place to live in Southern California. Weird coincidence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018688) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 2:10 PM Author: yapping exhilarant heaven dopamine this is the kind of rancid bullshit that could only be dreamed up by a recent transplant. orange county has always been the worst place in SoCal by a longshot, unless you count the inland counties, which nobody does. it's fifty miles of faggot tract houses and permanent smog, an endless grey belt of suburbs and traffic punctuated by sorely few hidden gems you have to make a conscious effort to get to. standing in north county san diego, you can literally see the air change color to an orangish-brown sitting above orange county. its crowning developmental achievement is plowing over its namesake orange groves to develop disneyland, a lowest common denominator paean to GC and mass media that involves ferrying around screaming kids to stand in lines for $85 a head. OC lacks even the cosmopolitan pursuits of San Diego, which is a lot like losing a foot race to a cripple. it lacks the quiet mediterranean/agricultural peace of ventura county, which is equally as conservative and more likely to grant you a CCW. it is an accident, an overflow valve of stock housing between one and a half real cities. its saving grace is that camp pendleton prevents it from ever encroaching into san diego proper, not that north county SD isn't also a suburban shithole. by the way, OC's republican roots tend to the worst aspects of corporatism - ramming through favorable tax deals for big business at the expense of individual citizens - and hardly touch on the policies the country actually needs to counter the shitlib menace. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018895) |
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just sayin. |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:41 PM Author: Mustard bearded windowlicker Turn to shit = become an economic powerhouse and become the engine for US innovation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018699) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:43 PM Author: Sable national The nice parts of California are probably the best places to live in the country - if you are wealthy. The issue is that it is becoming unaffordable to any reasonable definition of middle class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018708) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:46 PM Author: Angry Stage Toaster "Engine of the US economy" all of which goes to a couple hundred billionaires. imagine what the Gini coefficient of SF County or Santa Clara county (including E Palo Alto) must be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018725) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:48 PM Author: histrionic mad-dog skullcap almost every neighborhood in san jose has an average income of $30-40k, except for the strip alongsides the silicon valley, which is like $400k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018740) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 4:49 PM Author: slap-happy dilemma boiling water E Palo Alto isn’t in Santa Clara cnty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35020144) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:49 PM Author: Territorial spot Honestly, this is part of the reason why those UMC and UC areas turn lib.
The Globalism and Liberalism usually work out well for those people. They make a lot of money and get to enjoy all the finer things. Lack of moral boundaries and religion don't affect them negatively all that much because they as a group tend to possess innate and learned traits that prevent them from derailing. They get the best of diversity (the well-spoken family of indian doctors, the black family with Harvard degrees) and they can take advantage of cheap manual labor and are happy to pay for good ethnic restaurants and foods. |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:41 PM Author: Territorial spot Even in the 80s it wasn't that bad.
I mean, shit, just watch movies like Karate Kid and Fast Times and tell me those weren't infinitely better times. |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 1:44 PM Author: Sable national Yeah, it really started in probably the nineties or even early 2000s. Movies like ET would have a single mom living in a house that would be like $1.5 million now like it was NBD. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35018714) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:39 PM Author: Sable national Just checked and the house in ET would be $900k now.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/7121-Lonzo-St-Tujunga-CA-91042/20093117_zpid/ |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 3:54 PM Author: Racy Sweet Tailpipe Locale lmao holy shit wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35019732) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 7:22 PM Author: mauve bat-shit-crazy property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35021067) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 4:01 PM Author: Sable national Correction, the house is worth $970K now https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/7121-Lonzo-St_Tujunga_CA_91042_M27552-22871
As an added bonus, the elementary school is ranked a 4 out of 10 and is 75% hispanic now.
https://www.greatschools.org/california/tujunga/2321-Pinewood-Avenue-Elementary-School/
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Date: December 27th, 2017 4:37 PM Author: Brindle Cracking Brethren That example isn’t even that egregious since you’re getting 2800 square feet for under $1m. It’s super common now to have multi million dollar homes in neighborhoods where the public schools are complete shit and private school is the only option to avoid having your kids get recruited by Mexican gangs:
https://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angeles/3416-Beethoven-St-90066/home/6745296 |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 4:38 PM Author: Territorial spot whoever designed that hideous monstrosity should be killed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35020072) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 5:06 PM Author: Brindle Cracking Brethren I pulled this listing as a prime example of many aspects of the laws and other forces ruining CA:
Boomers buy cheap house in 70s for $37k and sell it for land value of $1.1m in 2014.
Boomers are now 55+ and maintain same tax basis of old home paying nothing in property taxes even if they buy a new $1.1m property in LA due to prop 60/90.
Developer buys the land and draw up plans for ugly modern home that doesn’t fit in with neighborhood and has too much square footage for the lot size. Local laws do not contain restrictions on such development.
Developer decides to sell plans to another developer shortly after for a gain of $200k for easy quick cash.
Second developer builds McMansion and now lists it for $2m more.
Chinese buyer will swoop in and purchase home and never live in it.
Meanwhile neighborhood public schools get worse and worse.
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Date: December 27th, 2017 5:07 PM Author: Territorial spot very sad! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35020271) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 5:08 PM Author: Sable national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35020283) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 5:30 PM Author: Brindle Cracking Brethren I bitch and complain about living here too but not nearly as much as you. You and your wife make more than enough to leave SGV for a more desirable part if she changes hospitals. I’m sure your outlook would change quite a bit if you moved to another area. There is little to complain about when it’s the middle of winter and you can get in a pool. And big sur, Yosemite, mammoth, Tahoe etc are all 180 destinations.
I also am reminded how lucky we are when people complain about the fleas and ticks infestations in the humid parts of the country and the salt ruining their cars in the winter etc. |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 5:35 PM Author: Sable national Yeah, I am sure other locations would be amazing. My wife isn't working right now and is starting a WFH job soon. We could move somewhere next summer. I do love the weather and all the shit to do. We go on 180 hikes every weekend and are planning a trip to Tahoe or Mammoth this winter and Yosemite this summer. I like it here more than you can tell from my posts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35020459) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 5:08 PM Author: know-it-all jet temple toilet seat wah wah wah. all this motherfucker does is whine. no wonder his wife can't respect him and he's headed for a quick divorce. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3841631&forum_id=2#35020280) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 11:40 PM Author: Sable national Libs don’t understand that many people are waking up to what has happened here and are making preventing this disease from spreading a cornerstone of their political beliefs
“The promise of California has soured,” Kesler told me. Anton “doesn’t want California to be the harbinger of what happens to America.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/520683/ |
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All you out of staters need to move the fuck out |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:11 PM Author: Sable national It is a daily horror show here. This state is a fucking mess.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/23/new-california-policy-opens-door-to-illegal-immigrant-voting.html |
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