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Trumpmos: will you turn against trump if he gets a 12bil fence for DACA?
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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:49 AM Author: Pontificating trailer park Because that's what is looking like will happen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109018) |
Date: January 8th, 2018 11:49 AM Author: Pontificating trailer park With no Wall, no everify, no end to chain migration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109025) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:51 AM Author: Floppy national indirect expression I’d vote for him over a D, but have to turn in my Trumpmo card (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109033) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:52 AM Author: Pontificating trailer park You've been missed. Your friend who had your account was a real nasty lib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109042) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:50 AM Author: Floppy national indirect expression Needs to include an end to chain migration, e verify and birthright citizenship to not be a complete betrayal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109027) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:52 AM Author: Razzmatazz corner So far, it's not looking good...
This has been completely ignored with the Bannon fight, but a HORRIBLE development. |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 1:02 PM Author: Exhilarant potus business firm so unless trump gets the constitution amended you'll feel betrayed? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109491) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:55 AM Author: Startled crotch Well they were going to be here anyway - so I'll take a wall. A secured border is something you can improve upon and consolidate with time, and each one you prevent from entering with it (and thus don't have to worry about providing benefits to) is the ROI.
Birthright Citizenship and Chain Migration need to be eliminated, modified or severely curtailed. |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 12:04 PM Author: bronze fragrant reading party rigor a) You're not getting a wall because Congress (including the GOP) won't vote for something that expensive and dumb.
b) DEMS will never agree to the end of Birthright Citizenship and the GOP isn't dumb enough to risk a shutdown over the idea of repealing it.
c) Chain Migration will be amended, but it won't end. |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 12:34 PM Author: Pontificating trailer park (not a Trumpmo) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109309) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 12:43 PM Author: Startled crotch I think an amended Birthright citizenship method (i.e both parents citizens for the kid to be a citizen) is acceptable.
Congress has acted MUCH dumber in the past.
I'll take Chain Migration slowing down if not ending.
I think a lot of people mistake Trump supporters as being viciously anti immigrant on all levels - I'm not, I just want them to be TRULY high skilled and come here legally (i.e O-1 Visa's and not H1-B) and not in a horribly corrupt and abused way that displaces citizens like with the disgusting farce Silicon Valley plays with H1B manipulation.
I also want immigrants to not be multi-national CRIMINALS stashing their money here by purchasing a limited supply commodity (i.e land - and damaging citizens QoL because of it) to have a safeguard against getting caught back home for their criminal shit. You have the wealthiest 1% of China and India coming over here but the problem is, a lot of them got rich in their country through super illegal and evil corrupt shit and they bring it here now.
It's almost that way by default - if your buying a $1-10 million dollar condo that you NEVER USE and only fly your wife or concubines here to have your kids, there's a pretty good chance you are the exact wrong kind of person that would help our society. |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 12:59 PM Author: Mind-boggling new version locus "You have the wealthiest 1% of China and India coming over here but the problem is, a lot of them got rich in their country through super illegal and evil corrupt shit and they bring it here now."
The vast majority of them are rich guys trying to invest their money outside of the often rudimentary banking and financial systems of their home countries and evading the dumb capital controls their countries impose on them. They're not evil criminal masterminds. |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 1:20 PM Author: Startled crotch Alright man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109637) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 5:43 PM Author: bronze fragrant reading party rigor DEMS won't allow GOP to touch Birthright Citizenship.
Ignore that pipedream.
Focus moreso on amended Chain Migration, that's doable. |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 5:48 PM Author: Red newt To change that, you need to amend the Constitution. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35111665) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 12:35 PM Author: aquamarine fluffy nowag prole I'm surprised that trumpmos would be surprised. He mentioned during the campaign he would treat dreamers fairly. That felt like amnesty to me before he was potus. Did some conveniently ignore that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109319) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 12:36 PM Author: diverse meetinghouse cumskin I'm down for DACA is they NEVER become citizens and their kids are not elligible for citizenship. Or we steralize. That works too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109324) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 12:38 PM Author: Razzmatazz corner In other words, you are fine with a permanent victory for Dems in exchange for a pipe dream that has a 0.0% chance of ever happening, and would just be quickly reversed by the Dems even if it did.
If they get legalized they will be voting within 10 years, guaranteed. |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 12:40 PM Author: Pontificating trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109339) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 12:42 PM Author: aquamarine fluffy nowag prole I would also mention most DACA eligible people are already of voting age. There was already a bit of a bait and switch on that in the media that made the crying child the avatar of the class. Mostly it's adults brought here as children. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109350) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 5:42 PM Author: bronze fragrant reading party rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35111628) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 1:08 PM Author: Mind-boggling new version locus We've already seen the outlines of any major immigration deal in the 2006-07 and 2014 bills that never made it out of congress. No way that continuing DACA in exchange for the conservative wishlist on immigration is going to happen. Mandatory e-verify, money for a border wall, and limits on chain migration will require a path to legalization for many of those already here if you want a deal with dems. Dems will gladly let the gov shutdown and DACA end if Trump takes firm stand. Even the Trump admin understands that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109533) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 1:09 PM Author: Pontificating trailer park (not a Trumpmo) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109546) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 1:22 PM Author: Lilac chapel fortuitous meteor we are fine with gov shutdown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109645) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 1:27 PM Author: Startling Heaven Hairy Legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109692) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 1:13 PM Author: Coral Mother Famous Landscape Painting Why wouldn’t the Trumpsters do everify immediately? After they passed the tax bill what’s the chamber of commerce going to say? “No we’ll vote for the Dems”? LOL, yeah fucking right. E-verify is the key. Birthright citizenship and chain migration are suspenders to everify’s belt when their parents/cousins are never coming or leaving right away when they can’t get work. If the Dems were not complete retards they would be pushing e-verify hard right now to take it off the table and split the GOP caucus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109572) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 1:14 PM Author: Pontificating trailer park "If the Dems were not complete retards they would be pushing e-verify hard right now to take it off the table and split the GOP caucus."
this might be the dumbest thing ive ever read on xo |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 1:16 PM Author: Coral Mother Famous Landscape Painting The Bernie faction of the Dems is all about e-verify, bro. The DC Dems are against it because they live to gulp down corporate semen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109600) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 1:17 PM Author: Pontificating trailer park the bernie faction of the dems doesn't care about limiting immigration at all - in fact it is their #1 issue, although they'll deny it. all democrats want unlimited immigration. that's what makes them democrats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109609) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: Startling Heaven Hairy Legs Bernie got crushed for that stance and never looked back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109700) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 5:45 PM Author: Concupiscible site selfie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35111642) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 1:18 PM Author: Mind-boggling new version locus As was shown in 2014, dems will go on board for mandatory e-verify for all employers but will demand a path for legalization for many of those already here. No way they give up a major bargaining chip for nothing. That's nonsensical. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109620) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 1:27 PM Author: Startling Heaven Hairy Legs lol @ major dem bargaining chip being pro illegal immigrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109685) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 1:38 PM Author: Mind-boggling new version locus Most people in the GOP are at least somewhat sympathetic to DACA recipients and willing to continue the program. I also think there is a lot of sympathy for those illegals who have been here for a while and have established lives and families here (often with children who are citizens). For most this isn't some simple binary choice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853100&forum_id=2#35109792) |
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Date: January 8th, 2018 5:48 PM Author: Alcoholic Tanning Salon Laser Beams I live in where a lot of people would refer to as rural Texas, and they had to fly a spic from out here to DC cause he was going to college
and when I say college this is like bottom tier public college (I can't believe we're not a community college!)
like 49% of them graduated high school
they should do dental x-rays to determine age and if they are found to be inconsistent to reported story should be back home after 2 years in prison |