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NLRB says Google engineer memo was "so harmful, discriminatory, and disruptive
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:04 AM Author: Stirring cobalt meetinghouse volcanic crater that it was ok to fire him
Google’s firing of an engineer over his controversial memo criticizing its diversity policies and “politically correct monoculture” didn’t violate U.S. labor law, a federal agency lawyer concluded.
Statements in James Damore’s 3,000-word memo “regarding biological differences between the sexes were so harmful, discriminatory, and disruptive” that they fell outside protections for collective action in the workplace, an associate general counsel for the National Labor Relations Board wrote in a six-page memo disclosed Thursday. |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:06 AM Author: nighttime telephone sounds like TRUMP needs to drain the NLRB swamp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424068) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:12 AM Author: hateful goal in life ratface he's put people on the NLRB who have already rolled back a lot of Obama NLRB precedent in just a few months.
in fact, this decision came from the NLRB's current general counsel, who has openly declared that he wants to roll back nearly everything the NLRB has done since 2009.
from what i have read, when they terminated him google was careful to rely ONLY on portions of the memo that were incendiary and arguably could constitute sex discrimination/harassment. they may have consulted with a labor lawyer before firing the guy (or they got lucky in not citing other portions of the memo).
if correct, this is not a controversial decision. the NLRA only protects concerted activity regarding "protected" subjects (pay, working conditions, etc.) if google truly only relied on shit like "WOMEN ARE BAD AT SCIENCE!" in the memo, the NLRA shouldn't protect statements like that anyway. (if you disagree, then you are in agreement, in principle, with the shitlibs Obama packed the NLRB with, who wanted to extend NLRA protection to almost any conduct no matter how tenuously related to working conditions affecting employees as a group.)
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:13 AM Author: Maniacal glittery mother place of business (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424094) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:14 AM Author: Sexy voyeur cr NLRB is going to come out in favor of employers bigly in the next couple years, and this is the opening salvo. Libs laughing & high-fiving about this memo don't realize it's a Trojan horse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424103) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:16 AM Author: Maniacal glittery mother place of business (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424109) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:23 AM Author: Stirring cobalt meetinghouse volcanic crater good scolarship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424161) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:17 PM Author: hateful goal in life ratface ty brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425303) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:19 PM Author: Hot den roast beef They MAY have consulted with a labor lawyer? LOL by that you mean their chief employment litigation attorney - who probably is an expert in his/her own right - consulted with whoever the best labor lawyer in the country is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425318) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:17 PM Author: hateful goal in life ratface You’d be surprised how often companies fail to seek advice from someone who knows labor law. Even prominent employment attorneys often know dick about labor law, not even enough to spot the potential NLRA issue here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425716) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:25 PM Author: pea-brained shrine kitty cat This was a national story. They didn't fire him naked without any advice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425755) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:16 PM Author: hateful goal in life ratface I have no doubt they have competent employment attorneys in house and/or consulted with an outside employment lawyer, but you can’t take for granted that they sought out or received competent labor advice.
Unless the memo was national news before he was fired and the stories were discussing the NLRA protections present in the memo, which I think is unlikely |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 8:08 PM Author: Stirring cobalt meetinghouse volcanic crater of course they got competent labor advice. it's literally the 2nd most valuable in the world that employs tens of thousands of people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35427609) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:35 AM Author: Sexy voyeur he's drawing a distinction between labor lawyers and employment lawyers. Normies don't even realize there's a difference but labor lawyers think they have some special insight into the arcane workings of the Act (got to call it "the Act" btw that's how they know you're "in") that mere employment lawyers could never hope to grasp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35435816) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:15 PM Author: orchid aggressive multi-billionaire the shitty article doesn't specify what the actual actionable statements were. does the decision? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425701) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:09 PM Author: ungodly amethyst mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425660) |
Date: February 17th, 2018 11:07 AM Author: Maniacal glittery mother place of business in what way was it harmful outside of being disruptive? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424070) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:09 AM Author: Lilac filthpig corn cake Libs equate speech they don't like as violent and harmful, and therefore reason it is not protected. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424076) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:21 AM Author: hateful goal in life ratface this decision wasn't made by a lib, it was made by a trump appointee who has declared outright war on all the shitlib Obama-era policies issued over the last 10 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424144) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:10 PM Author: ungodly amethyst mad cow disease Fuck this shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425668) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:12 PM Author: nighttime telephone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425681) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:44 AM Author: galvanic trailer park pocket flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35435862) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:08 AM Author: Lilac filthpig corn cake the speech was "so harmful" = unadulterated shitlib in the NLRB (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424073) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:10 AM Author: Azure Theater Stage Gaping Whereas the statements from other Google employees were ok. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424081) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:19 PM Author: Cerebral copper psychic it's no use friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425322) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:15 AM Author: out-of-control judgmental temple 180 decision to replace Christianity with "diversity" as the moral/religious foundation of society. seems to be working out great so far. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424106) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:15 AM Author: Maniacal glittery mother place of business (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424108) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:16 AM Author: vibrant useless brakes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424113) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:18 AM Author: Soggy center ceo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424120) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:18 AM Author: onyx lascivious indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424124) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:19 AM Author: maize insane point codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424135) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 11:25 AM Author: rose people who are hurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35424175) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:16 PM Author: Motley pungent station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426059) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:17 PM Author: Misunderstood Coldplay Fan Resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426067) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: Confused cruise ship alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426180) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:55 PM Author: Bronze Dilemma Stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35427114) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 7:00 PM Author: razzle-dazzle dopamine incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35427152) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 8:20 PM Author: Carmine twinkling uncleanness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35427678) |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:41 AM Author: insecure nofapping corner More like
Corporatism:Diversity christianity:virgin birth |
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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:44 AM Author: galvanic trailer park pocket flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35435864) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:19 PM Author: Glassy Odious Travel Guidebook i assume this is apoealable to a real court? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425719) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:19 PM Author: hateful goal in life ratface No appeal. It’s the equivalent of prosecutorial discretion on the part of the nlrb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426079) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: Plum lettuce is this finding given deference in the civil suit in state court? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426176) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:57 PM Author: hateful goal in life ratface No, but the legal issues are 100% different there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426340) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:06 PM Author: Plum lettuce ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35426410) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:38 PM Author: Spectacular parlor Facts are harmful and disruptive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35425826) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:58 PM Author: Bronze Dilemma Stain Serious question from a non-lawyer who knows zero about these issue.
Is the truth of the statement any kind of defense / work in his favor in any way? Or does that not matter at all b/c you could still be extremely disruptive with the truth...
The word "discriminatory" in that sentence though bugs me b/c for some reason it makes it seem like discriminatory implies untruth. |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 7:18 PM Author: hateful goal in life ratface Doesn’t matter one way or another. The only thing the NLRA protects is concerted activity aimed at improving the workplace. The NLRB’s prosecutor found that he was terminated only for statements in the memo that had nothing to do with subjects protected by the NLRA so the case was dismissed. The agency did acknowledge that there were protected statements in the memo but google didn’t mention any of that content as the reason he was fired. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895770&forum_id=2#35427302) |