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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 1:10 AM
 Author: boyish clear stag film
 
 https://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2018/12/26/sorry_but_no_one_was_forced_to_take_on_student_debt_103553.html
 
  "No one forced anyone to do anything. Students who take on debt are making an investment. They wouldn’t be making that investment unless they thought it would pay off for them."
  
  "At $43,000 annual tuition for undergraduates at a private university, those with an undergraduate degree, bearing a debt of roughly $170,000, will make that up in less than eight years – and everything after that is gravy."
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37477498)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 1:56 AM
 Author: hideous cordovan dingle berry
 
 and yet, people react with fury if you go to other places online and specifically tell students to avoid debt and turn down college admissions linked to debt...
 
  it's also beside the point, since that's a system issue (the level at which policy has to work), not an individual moral issue.  it can have individual moral IMPLICATIONS, but financial policy should be based on macroeconomics, not boomer nattering about "personal responsibility."
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37477689)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 5:13 PM
 Author: ivory love of her life
 
 libs act as if fairytales are true
 healthcare/education can be great, cheap, and available to all
  when situations are necessarily a 2 of 3 is possible, but not 3 of 3,
  libs like you go let’s do 3 of 3!!! don’t be mean! 
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37481725)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 2:30 AM
 Author: sickened trust fund
 
 no retard prole goy was forced to die in iraq, they just had no other options
 
  -john f. kerry
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37477758)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 2:52 AM
 Author: vigorous gold personal credit line native
 
 literallly the "author"
 
  https://www.whwg.com/allan-golombek
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37477804)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 5:26 AM
 Author: orange abusive private investor station
 
 Not gonna read, but typical right wing stupid shit.
 
  You want to motivate ppl to go to school. It's absurd the US literally punishes ppl for life. The least the govt cld do is cap interest rates at 1% or less, and force univs to better regulate their finances in order to limit tuition increases. But NO that is SOCIALISM!!! 
  
  The US is an absurd shithole. Punish ppl for going to school. Punish ppl for getting sick. Then punish ppl for being uneducated, or missing work cause they are sick. 
  
  LJL 
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37477975)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 7:04 AM
 Author: Awkward Cruel-hearted Stage Jew
 
 Irks the hell out of me.
 
  Create a culture where you are indoctrinated by boomer parents & teachers that “education” is everything & “good debt.”
  
  Have the cost inflated exponentially from what they had to pay.
  
  Take on insidious loans because in your teens & young 20s you trust your parents & teachers & have little life experience.
  
  Then when you’ll never be able to afford a house or children it becomes, “No one forced you to take that debt! Now where’s my social security check that you won’t get!”
  
  I do realize there are many kids who had their “education” paid for in whole or part by their family. This doesn’t apply to them. 
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37478105)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 8:33 AM
 Author: Galvanic Honey-headed Dilemma
 
 As you point out, college is designed to be a meat grinder. Most big universities want as many as possible to enter the funnel, and then let the onerous nature of class attendance policies, low engagement, transportation problems, and the fact that most everyone in college is poor and without resources weed out the majority while the college sits back, collects the revenue, and then spends it on ridiculous shit to make the school more prominent or more desirable so it can bring in even more. Education is an afterthought.
 At smaller schools with endowments and mission statements you can find a stark contrast, but they too play this game. Especially with their minority recruits from the inner city, upon whom they play the great bait and switch, pulling scholys when those disadvantaged kids can’t keep up in class or have their lives torn apart because of shit going down at home or whatever.
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37478278)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 8:50 AM
 Author: zombie-like opaque tank community account
 
 https://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2018/12/18/sorry_new_york_times_rural_america_cannot_be_saved_103542.html
 
  
  
  
  many choose to remain in rural and rust belt America rather than grasp the lifeline offered by metropolitan regions. But isn’t that their choice – and shouldn’t they be prepared to bear the economic, social and cultural consequences? Many fear losing the increasingly frail and community social support networks available to them where they were born and live: The brother-in-law who owns a pick-up truck, the grandmother who looks after the kids when needed, or the poorly paid job that at least provides some kind of health insurance. Try telling that to today’s immigrants, who arrive – legally or illegally – with few skills, in a country in which the predominant language is one they do not speak or understand. Try telling that to people whose grandparents crossed an ocean to land in a large North American city with little money, even less command of the English language, no immediate job prospects, and few relatives or friends to help them adjust.
  
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37478316)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 8:51 AM
 Author: vermilion aromatic chad house
 
 Globalization's Opponents Should Be Its Biggest Proponents
 By Allan Golombek
  December 21, 2018
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  Globalization is becoming a dirty word among many, and its supporters and practitioners frequently called globalists, a term almost always used derisively, with vaguely anti-Semitic origins.
  
  But globalization, including free trade, more open borders, and the introduction of new technologies to the workplace and the marketplace, is key to human betterment and improvement of the economy’s ability to increase wealth, create high-end jobs, and produce innovative new goods while keeping down prices.
  
  Globalization increases access to capital, reduces costs, allows us to take advantage of all human strengths, and opens markets that facilitate innovation by fattening the customer base.
  
  Globalization makes it easier to raise capital. At one time, those seeking capital to finance new innovations were largely restricted to a limited number of sources. By opening capital markets around the world, entrepreneurs and companies have far more potential investment sources, opening opportunities for the introduction of new technologies, goods and services that make our lives easier and better.
  
  Globalization makes production more efficient and cost-effective. Look at the Apple iPhone. It is frequently cited as a product made in China by a U.S. company. In fact, it is a global product made primarily in the United States. The chip that serves as the phone’s brain, the software, the audio chip and the controller chips are all made in the United States, and/or designed in America by Americans – as are the crucial marketing, apps and customer support.
  
  Other crucial parts are manufactured in Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, and Germany, as well China. Instead of “Made in China”, the iPhone is made all over the world – a production miracle made possible by global supply chains and the cheap transportation and telecommunications that make them feasible.
  
  Globalization facilitates the creation and production of new products. Consider the iPad. Imagine you were in Steve Jobs place at the time the iPad was in its initial stage of development. Product Development tells you it is technologically feasible. You ask Marketing what price point is necessary in order to quickly pay down the sunk costs and start marking a profit. They tell you the iPad would have to sell at $1800, a price the market would simply not be prepared to bear.
  
  But someone at the table points out that with access to a global market, and the expanded opportunity for sales, it could sell at an initial price of $750 and still achieve profitability fairly soon. Bingo, you say, and a new innovative product is launched.
  
  Except that conversation would never take place, because it would never have to. The people sitting around the table would all understand the power of the global marketplace. If anything, they might take it for granted.
  
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really? Education and entrepreneurial opportunities are more readily available than ever. Capital is more accessible. Incentives to upward mobility are enhanced.
  
  Globalization encourages all of the behaviours that make our world a better place – the pursuit of education, a shift to jobs that involve the greater use of  cognitive skills, the creation of new products and services that make our lives easier, better, more rewarding, healthier, and longer. Rather than complain about its impact, globalization should be welcomed – particularly by those most likely to disparage it.
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37478317)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 8:59 AM
 Author: sexy orchestra pit
 
 Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
 
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
  
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
  
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
  
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
  
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
  
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
  
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
  
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
  
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
  
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
  
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
  
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
  
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
  
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
  
  Globalization does make a large number of people feel they are dispossessed and denied the opportunity to participate in this wealthier world. But are they really?
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37478332)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 8:55 AM
 Author: rose roast beef immigrant
 
 He's not completely wrong. Most morons with tons of student debt could have done 2 years at community college before transferring to big state u. Would get a college degree for less than $30 to 50k.
 
  The fact that people go full debt $50k+ a year to schools like Northeastern and end up $200k+ in debt is crazy.
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37478324)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 9:21 AM
 Author: out-of-control field toaster
 
 No one forces anyone to go to an expensive private school.
 
  State U is usually cheap, and there's usually one that will be close to free if you are decently smart. 
  
  The American people don't need to pay for some millenial's unnecessary four years of lib indoctrination at fucking Tufts.
  
  
  
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37478429)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 9:38 AM
 Author: out-of-control field toaster
 
 I just looked at a few SEC and Big 10 schools and almost all were under $13k a year in state.  Plus people usually get some type of scholarship.
 
  And that's for the BEST in state school.  There's a bunch of other cheaper ones that will definition give someone that can get into the state flagship a free ride or close to it.
  
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37478510)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 9:34 AM
 Author: know-it-all hall
 
 Ive never been so angered in a thread.
 
  I really do want to physically assault the author.
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37478495)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 10:28 AM
 Author: know-it-all hall
 
 Negative.
 
  College admins need to be summarily fired.
  
  Just like with drugs, you have to go after the dealer and suppliers as well as treat the addict.
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37478800)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 12:35 PM
 Author: thriller fuchsia son of senegal forum
 
 First tweet: "Remove the 'Excesses' of Capitalism, and You Remove Its Essence"
 
  Second tweet: "Oh please, will someone donate a kidney out of the goodness of their heart. Life is so unfair!"
  
  
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37479670)
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 Date:  December 27th, 2018 12:09 PM
 Author: bonkers persian ceo
 
 Nobody needs to borrow that kind of money to get an education. Live at home. Go to a state school after you establish residency. Don’t major in worthless bullshit like fucking gender studies or political science. Don’t go to grad school unless it’s fully paid for by grants/teaching stipends. Certainly don’t go to fucking LAWL SKEWL.
 
  Or better yet don’t go to college at all. College is not a gateway to success and only a small minority of people who go ever finish.
  
  Source: I’m a retard who didn’t follow any of the above advice.
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37479466)
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 Date:  December 28th, 2018 12:04 AM
 Author: shivering parlor
 
 "What Trachtenberg understood was that perception is reality in higher education—and perception can be bought. “You can get a Timex or a Casio for $65 or you can get a Rolex or a Patek Philippe for $10,000. It’s the same thing,” Trachtenberg says. The former president gambled that students who couldn’t quite get into the nation’s most exclusive colleges—and who would otherwise overlook a workmanlike school like the old GW—would flock to a university that at least had a price tag and a swank campus like those of the Ivy Leagues. “It serves as a trophy, a symbol,” he says. “It’s a sort of token of who they think they are.”
 
  https://washingtonmonthly.com/2010/08/22/the-prestige-racket/
  
  and every single university, including state schools faced with budget cuts, has followed suit, fueled heavily by federal student "aid" not being capped or regulated. add to that increasing diversity initiatives that require significant school-provided aid, and so everyone adopted "high tuition / high aid" models:
  
  https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/07/how-not-to-help-the-poor-the-lesson-of-soaring-college-prices/277658/
  
  this boomer fuck can eat a dick.
 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4164500&forum_id=2#37484084)
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