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Did Google CEO commit perjury during congressional hearing?

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/01/16/google-youtube-sea...
supple up-to-no-good scourge upon the earth electric furnace
  01/17/19
Yes
concupiscible heaven nowag
  01/17/19
OHHHH SHITTT@!@@#T%
supple up-to-no-good scourge upon the earth electric furnace
  01/17/19
I remember when Libs on Facebook were chortling over the dum...
Dashing partner
  01/17/19
Poo in the Loo
Titillating Crotch
  01/17/19
following in Don Jr's footsteps, hehe!
mind-boggling pearly roommate french chef
  01/17/19
From an internal Google discussion, where a member of their ...
iridescent trump supporter
  01/17/19
this is a hilarious quote on so many levels
abusive corn cake degenerate
  01/17/19
jews aren't that smart after all
Titillating Crotch
  01/17/19
But if I ask Google assistant “Why do Jews run the ban...
concupiscible heaven nowag
  01/17/19
...
self-centered meetinghouse private investor
  01/21/19
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Brilliant tank church
  01/21/19
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Charismatic Ticket Booth Famous Landscape Painting
  01/21/19
180 article. breibart is the only good source for news left....
Translucent laser beams
  01/17/19
oh shit I didn't know he was under oath... LOCK HIM UP
contagious magenta tanning salon
  01/17/19
shit did Trump instruct him to as well?
mind-boggling pearly roommate french chef
  01/18/19
Dam. Good one.
supple up-to-no-good scourge upon the earth electric furnace
  01/18/19
You get ALL the upvotes, bravo good sir
puce cuckold
  01/21/19
"Did you order the search manipulation?!" "...
Bistre sinister international law enforcement agency
  01/18/19
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Translucent laser beams
  01/21/19
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Umber University Rigor
  01/21/19
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self-centered meetinghouse private investor
  01/21/19
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Drab Arrogant Chapel Persian
  01/21/19
Google is the fucking devil. Those assholes are selling usou...
pink pungent stead dopamine
  01/21/19
But Trump said pussy. You need to focus on what's important
Excitant area
  01/21/19
Would be pretty damning, if there was any evidence that Goog...
learning disabled dilemma clown
  01/21/19
Guess you didn't read far enough: However, in the leaked ...
iridescent trump supporter
  01/21/19
The testimony was limited to search. The article discusses ...
learning disabled dilemma clown
  01/21/19
You are addicted to getting blown out. Lawman8 is gonna have...
honey-headed bawdyhouse
  01/21/19
I'm a scientist by training and a lawyer. I like evidence. ...
learning disabled dilemma clown
  01/21/19
(Political Science BA)
Charismatic Ticket Booth Famous Landscape Painting
  01/21/19
I can tell that this guy is smart because he is raising good...
iridescent trump supporter
  01/21/19
If you read the quoted post from Daniel Aaronson, he discuss...
iridescent trump supporter
  01/21/19
There's certainly some tension between Aaronson's statement ...
learning disabled dilemma clown
  01/21/19
I propose that you admit Google is manipulating its search r...
iridescent trump supporter
  01/21/19
I think it's clear that Google adjusts its algorithm in a wa...
learning disabled dilemma clown
  01/21/19
Did you read the leaked evidence from the Breitbart article?...
iridescent trump supporter
  01/21/19
I think your inference is reasonable, but it's still an infe...
learning disabled dilemma clown
  01/21/19


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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:33 AM
Author: supple up-to-no-good scourge upon the earth electric furnace

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/01/16/google-youtube-search-blacklist-smoking-gun/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37606286)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:35 AM
Author: concupiscible heaven nowag

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37606290)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:35 AM
Author: supple up-to-no-good scourge upon the earth electric furnace

OHHHH SHITTT@!@@#T%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37606291)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:40 AM
Author: Dashing partner

I remember when Libs on Facebook were chortling over the dumb questions congressmen asked the google CEO. Turns out , their questions weren't that stupid; rather the google CEO was full of shit . It's so obvious to anyone who does searches for things like "scientists" and sees all black ppl that it's been manipulated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37606303)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:41 AM
Author: Titillating Crotch

Poo in the Loo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37606305)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:44 AM
Author: mind-boggling pearly roommate french chef

following in Don Jr's footsteps, hehe!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37606315)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 1:33 AM
Author: iridescent trump supporter

From an internal Google discussion, where a member of their "Trust & Safety" team said the following:

"The bar for changing classifiers or manual actions on span in organic search is extremely high. However, the bar for things we let our Google Assistant say out loud might be a lot lower. If I search for “Jews run the banks” – I’ll likely find anti-semitic stuff in organic search. As a Jew, I might find some of these results offensive, but they are there for people to research and view, and I understand that this is not a reflection of Google feels about this issue. But if I ask Google assistant “Why do Jews run the banks” we wouldn’t be similarly accepting if it repeated and promoted conspiracy theories that likely pop up in organic search in her smoothing voice."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37606447)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 1:38 AM
Author: abusive corn cake degenerate

this is a hilarious quote on so many levels

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37606462)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 1:40 AM
Author: Titillating Crotch

jews aren't that smart after all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37606471)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 1:41 AM
Author: concupiscible heaven nowag

But if I ask Google assistant “Why do Jews run the banks” we wouldn’t be similarly accepting if it repeated and promoted conspiracy theories that likely pop up in organic search in her smoothing voice."

That sounds really relaxing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37606476)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 5:58 PM
Author: self-centered meetinghouse private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635287)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 6:00 PM
Author: Brilliant tank church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635301)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 6:02 PM
Author: Charismatic Ticket Booth Famous Landscape Painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635315)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 1:49 AM
Author: Translucent laser beams

180 article. breibart is the only good source for news left.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37606495)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 1:50 AM
Author: contagious magenta tanning salon

oh shit I didn't know he was under oath...

LOCK HIM UP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37606497)



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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:05 AM
Author: mind-boggling pearly roommate french chef

shit did Trump instruct him to as well?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37613166)



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Date: January 18th, 2019 7:00 AM
Author: supple up-to-no-good scourge upon the earth electric furnace

Dam. Good one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37613601)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 6:05 PM
Author: puce cuckold

You get ALL the upvotes, bravo good sir

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635335)



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Date: January 18th, 2019 7:34 AM
Author: Bistre sinister international law enforcement agency

"Did you order the search manipulation?!"

"YOURE DAMN RIGHT I DID!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37613654)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 5:29 PM
Author: Translucent laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635093)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 5:34 PM
Author: Umber University Rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635130)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 5:58 PM
Author: self-centered meetinghouse private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635291)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 7:27 PM
Author: Drab Arrogant Chapel Persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635945)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 5:34 PM
Author: pink pungent stead dopamine

Google is the fucking devil. Those assholes are selling usout to the chicoms like nobody's business. We need to liquidate these traitors before it's too late.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635128)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 5:37 PM
Author: Excitant area

But Trump said pussy. You need to focus on what's important

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635146)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 5:43 PM
Author: learning disabled dilemma clown

Would be pretty damning, if there was any evidence that Google does in fact manually intervene in any search results. Sucks that Breitbart was unable to find even one example, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635182)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 5:44 PM
Author: iridescent trump supporter

Guess you didn't read far enough:

However, in the leaked discussion thread, a member of Google’s “trust & safety” team, Daniel Aaronson, admitted that the company maintains “huge teams” that work to adjust search results for subjects that are “prone to hyperbolic content, misleading information, and offensive content” – all subjective terms that are frequently used to suppress right-leaning sources.

He also admitted that the interventions weren’t confined to YouTube – they included search results delivered via Google Assistant, Google Home, and in rare cases Google’s organic search results.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635200)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 5:48 PM
Author: learning disabled dilemma clown

The testimony was limited to search. The article discusses search on YouTube, but YouTube is a sibling to Google (not, as the article suggests, owned by Google).

Both are owned by Alphabet, whose CEO is Larry Page. If Larry Page said that no Alphabet companies do this, that would seem to be untruthful.

I don't see anything in the article that says Google CEO Sundar Pichai would even know how YouTube does search internally. YouTube is run by CEO Susan Wojcicki.

If Breitbart could substantiate the one-off comment, "in rare cases Google's organic search results," that would be enough for me to think Pichai should be fired (if not worse). Until then, I remain skeptical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635225)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 5:49 PM
Author: honey-headed bawdyhouse

You are addicted to getting blown out. Lawman8 is gonna have your ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635235)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 5:51 PM
Author: learning disabled dilemma clown

I'm a scientist by training and a lawyer. I like evidence. Do you have any evidence, or just meaningless invective?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635250)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 6:04 PM
Author: Charismatic Ticket Booth Famous Landscape Painting

(Political Science BA)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635323)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 5:54 PM
Author: iridescent trump supporter

I can tell that this guy is smart because he is raising good points that no lib here previously raised. I can respect that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635268)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 5:52 PM
Author: iridescent trump supporter

If you read the quoted post from Daniel Aaronson, he discusses "proactive" and "reactive" manipulation of search results - across all Google platforms and not just YouTube.

It's true that he suggests manipulation is limited on "organic search" as compared to YouTube or Google Assistant. But he is admitting it exists. In fact, he says: "The bar for changing classifiers or manual actions on span in organic search is extremely high."

That alone contradicts Pichai's sworn testimony.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635259)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 6:17 PM
Author: learning disabled dilemma clown

There's certainly some tension between Aaronson's statement and Pichai's testimony. I suspect, if Congress chooses to care about this, Pichai will put a lot of weight on "particular" - "any PARTICULAR search result."

What would you propose? Congress hold follow-up hearings?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635418)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 6:19 PM
Author: iridescent trump supporter

I propose that you admit Google is manipulating its search results. Based on the leaked evidence in the Breitbart article. Admitting the truth is all I care about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635429)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 6:25 PM
Author: learning disabled dilemma clown

I think it's clear that Google adjusts its algorithm in a way to weed out what it perceives to be low-quality results. Whether it does so in a way that's invasive enough to be considered manipulation, in my view, remains to be seen. I think follow-on hearings would be appropriate, and in particular I think Pichai should be subject to questioning about whether there's any process in place to ensure classifier modifications are viewpoint neutral.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635464)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 6:41 PM
Author: iridescent trump supporter

Did you read the leaked evidence from the Breitbart article?

Please don't act intentionally obtuse by making statements like: "I think Pichai should be subject to questioning about whether there's any process in place to ensure classifier modifications are viewpoint neutral."

Consider the following:

1. A Google employee in the discussion thread drew attention to Pichai’s claim, noting that it “seems like we are pretty eager to cater our search results to the social and political agenda of left-wing journalists.”

(this is for YouTube)

2. Breitbart News previously reported on leaked emails revealing the company targeted pro-Democrat demographics in its get-out-the-vote efforts in 2016.

3. In 2018, Breitbart News exclusively published a leaked video from the company that showed senior management in dismay at Trump’s election victory, and pledging to use the company’s power to make his populist movement a “hiccup” in history.

4. Pichai lied under oath to Congress and the only reason it's even possible for him to face follow-on questioning is because a conservative Google employee leaked confidential internal discussions to Breitbart.

5. You have admitted that Google manipulates its search results.

Now, with the above in mind, it is easy to infer that, at least some of the manipulation Google conducts is to suppress Trump/conservatives. There is no need for follow-up questioning where Pichai will simply lie again. Come on man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635577)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 7:17 PM
Author: learning disabled dilemma clown

I think your inference is reasonable, but it's still an inference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179512&forum_id=2#37635863)