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The principal students involved in the cheating scandal sur...
mustard soul-stirring boistinker hairy legs
  05/21/06
Dismissed as in kicked out of law school? Or just failed th...
erotic adventurous clown
  05/21/06
Some are being told to return to Austin for pending honor co...
mustard soul-stirring boistinker hairy legs
  05/21/06
Have you talked to any of them after they got caught?
erotic adventurous clown
  05/21/06
I've only talked one girl about it. She didn't really want ...
mustard soul-stirring boistinker hairy legs
  05/21/06
Even if they just get an F and not get kicked out, they migh...
erotic adventurous clown
  05/21/06
Even the F with notation on their transcript is fucking brut...
Lake address
  05/21/06
Then they shouldn't have fucking cheated. They knew the con...
Wonderful pearl mexican property
  05/21/06
I guess that's one response. Another option is to respond w...
Lake address
  05/21/06
Youthful mistake? 24-year olds aren't "youthful"....
Wonderful pearl mexican property
  05/21/06
thank you for illustrating my point.
Lake address
  05/21/06
Uhh, what point? That they should be forgiven? If you have...
Wonderful pearl mexican property
  05/21/06
the point that the forgiveness route doesn't fly on xoxo
Lake address
  05/22/06
it pretty much doesn't fly anywhere...what's the point of ru...
Concupiscible rose stage cuckoldry
  05/22/06
that's what they say about amnesty.
Sinister base
  05/22/06
Except that that doesn't really hurt anyone else.
well-lubricated people who are hurt gas station
  05/22/06
The point is there's no legitimate grounds for forgiveness i...
well-lubricated people who are hurt gas station
  05/22/06
I concur. They cheated. They deserve whatever punishment t...
Translucent Chapel Coldplay Fan
  10/02/06
fuck, I can forgive them but that doesn't mean they shouldn'...
Ruby Metal Factory Reset Button
  06/16/06
Exactly. Cheating is for money.
Aqua alpha
  05/22/06
I completely agree
crimson quadroon jap
  05/22/06
they should be expelled
maize boyish cruise ship
  05/22/06
T16.
Godawful skinny woman
  05/23/06
Bullshit. They chose to do something that they knew was wro...
well-lubricated people who are hurt gas station
  05/22/06
bull-fucking-shit. you're talking about people fucking over ...
Smoky orchestra pit
  05/23/06
Youthful mistake my ass. They were adults who knew complete...
Godawful skinny woman
  05/23/06
You're an idiot.
well-lubricated people who are hurt gas station
  10/02/06
this also seems to be an idiot situation in which to cheat. ...
soggy exhilarant state gunner
  05/22/06
I'd say it'd ruin their lives or at least their professional...
erotic adventurous clown
  05/21/06
my point is that they aren't dead, they aren't permanently c...
Lake address
  05/21/06
Well, no, their lives aren't ruined, but do they have any ch...
Spectacular avocado mediation trailer park
  05/21/06
True. They may have to reconsider their career choices.
erotic adventurous clown
  05/21/06
Their lives were already ruined when UT was the best school ...
At-the-ready mahogany marketing idea
  05/21/06
ah, touche
Lake address
  05/21/06
T16pwn3d
erotic adventurous clown
  05/21/06
lateral? now they are free to do ibanking. i say its a pro...
Concupiscible rose stage cuckoldry
  05/22/06
fuck that. keep the firm job, and the money
Ruby Metal Factory Reset Button
  06/16/06
This is good justice. It's good to hear them carry through.
low-t senate death wish
  05/21/06
Link? I saw the other thread, thought it was flame.
charcoal national fortuitous meteor
  05/21/06
Actually, linking the original threads on this would be help...
low-t senate death wish
  05/21/06
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&mc=...
Carmine Motley Church Building Toaster
  05/22/06
How do you actually build enough of a case against someone? ...
Wonderful pearl mexican property
  05/21/06
I totally looked at my notes during the test.
Garnet den
  05/21/06
Predictive flame: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread...
low-t senate death wish
  05/21/06
are you bashing my white girls/asian guys thread?
Orange goal in life
  05/21/06
13 sounds about right for what I was initially indicating he...
Carmine Motley Church Building Toaster
  05/22/06
isn't it pretty clear that all this is a lie?
Aphrodisiac garrison
  05/21/06
There was a UT student blog that also reported on this. Migh...
Razzmatazz spot fanboi
  05/22/06
as did the definitive UT student blog
Carmine Motley Church Building Toaster
  05/22/06
What a douche. I'll bet that bitch spends all day on this b...
Cerebral glassy ticket booth kitty cat
  05/22/06
hahaha, they are gonna get whats coming to them!! I hope the...
pink wagecucks nibblets
  05/22/06
I feel bad for them. I think they need to be punished severe...
Honey-headed box office
  05/22/06
I think they should be hung in a public square.
Orange goal in life
  05/22/06
So according to that UT blog (that GTO posted), they matched...
Hilarious coffee pot pit
  05/22/06
I imagine it went something like - pin at least 1 based on ...
Carmine Motley Church Building Toaster
  05/22/06
WOW!!!
well-lubricated people who are hurt gas station
  05/22/06
There is talk of UT forfeiting last year's BCS. USC will be ...
Costumed home
  05/22/06
What happens when USC gets DQed BUSHPWN3D-style? oh, my t...
Carmine Motley Church Building Toaster
  05/22/06
hard to believe a group of girls would try and hatch a cheat...
Nofapping sooty ceo black woman
  05/22/06
women rely on each other too much. cheating is best done al...
pearly sound barrier parlour
  05/22/06
My father was an LAPD officer for 20 years. His advice to me...
Sickened locale
  05/22/06
Well, you can always just kill them after.
well-lubricated people who are hurt gas station
  05/22/06
prisoner's dilemma, bitch!
Narrow-minded mint selfie double fault
  05/22/06
NASHEQUILIBRIUMPWNED!
Tan Haunting Point
  05/22/06
LOL!!!
Drunken know-it-all field
  05/22/06
176.
low-t senate death wish
  05/22/06
Expulsion seems pretty appropriate to me given a) the zero-s...
frozen ruddy plaza prole
  05/22/06
no. we should be nice to them. they are just innocent kids t...
Contagious Electric Furnace Kitchen
  05/22/06
It's a pretty big deal too. UT divides into 100 person secti...
frozen ruddy plaza prole
  05/22/06
This post is probably the only even remotely prestigious thi...
razzle-dazzle blathering candlestick maker juggernaut
  05/22/06
there is so much beauty in this post. i cried.
Filthy Marvelous Corner
  05/22/06
These aren't economic utility bots. They're morons who acted...
chrome tripping faggot firefighter center
  05/22/06
"These aren't economic utility bots." Yes, they...
Godawful skinny woman
  05/23/06
DING! fags
Carmine Motley Church Building Toaster
  05/22/06
i can't believe you guys haven't discussed how horrible the ...
brindle range incel
  05/22/06
It's UT, what did you expect?
Tan Haunting Point
  05/22/06
interesting
crimson quadroon jap
  05/22/06
no surprise
Buff infuriating tanning salon
  05/22/06
What could the advantage to having tons of people be? If yo...
Godawful skinny woman
  05/23/06
I know very little about this unfolding story but I don't be...
Duck-like Crackhouse Deer Antler
  05/22/06
communists?
vigorous iridescent locus
  05/22/06
Proletariats unite!
Stimulating Slate Meetinghouse
  05/23/06
No one said anything about LSAT. It was bar C/F fingerprints...
Topaz Talented Place Of Business Boltzmann
  05/23/06
you realize that fingerprint analysis needs to be done by an...
Ruby Metal Factory Reset Button
  06/16/06
someone should tell leiter that even the 13 stupidest people...
opaque geriatric theater reading party
  05/22/06
people cheat, even smart ones.
vigorous iridescent locus
  05/22/06
Only the dumb ones get caught. Therefore they deserve to ...
apoplectic nubile business firm
  05/22/06
exactly.
opaque geriatric theater reading party
  05/22/06
Only the dumb get caught. But if you got caught, you must ha...
yellow beady-eyed partner public bath
  05/22/06
credited. also, many supposedly smart people get caught for ...
vigorous iridescent locus
  05/22/06
Circular but nonetheless airtight logic. They might have ...
apoplectic nubile business firm
  05/22/06
you people are seriously annoying and retarded. it's not rea...
vigorous iridescent locus
  05/22/06
Perhaps, but here they were obviously both too stupid to suc...
well-lubricated people who are hurt gas station
  05/22/06
"CIRCULARLOGICPWN3D" Or TRUEBYDEFINITIONPWN3D!
Godawful skinny woman
  05/23/06
Have fun on the C&F portion of the bar. Auto-ding in ...
provocative cuck principal's office
  05/22/06
their legal careers are essentially over
vigorous iridescent locus
  05/22/06
actually a point should be made that this scheme was pretty ...
Concupiscible rose stage cuckoldry
  05/22/06
whats funny is that at a school like UT they were all guaren...
hairless transparent casino ladyboy
  05/22/06
Agreed. And they evidently threw away the outline in the bat...
cheese-eating wrinkle
  05/22/06
"If you're gonna cheat, at least have a little pride in...
Godawful skinny woman
  05/23/06
The eyes PWN3D of Texas are upon you, All the PWN3D live-l...
Trip embarrassed to the bone hell
  05/22/06
What a fucking TTT.
flesh comical theater stage
  05/22/06
Tell us what you really think
Charismatic jew
  05/22/06
I'd love to hear your take on the situation.
Bright cuckold
  05/22/06
Talk to me baby.
Dun heady lay son of senegal
  05/22/06
Who was the rat?
violent razzle brunch
  05/22/06
they should beat him with socks filled with bars of soap.
Concupiscible rose stage cuckoldry
  05/22/06
or nickels.
vigorous iridescent locus
  05/22/06
Why didn't they flush the outline down the toilet?
Orange goal in life
  05/22/06
So is there ANY evidence that this actually occurred, apart ...
Peach vibrant stag film
  05/22/06
No.
Godawful skinny woman
  05/23/06
...
milky thriller indirect expression area
  05/22/06
Rumor has it that it was mainly white girls w/ asian boyfrie...
Orange goal in life
  05/22/06
its probably some blacks and hispanics, only they would thin...
pink wagecucks nibblets
  05/23/06
http://longhornlaw.net/blog/ http://rov.livejournal.com/
low-t senate death wish
  05/23/06
LINO UPDATE
Topaz Talented Place Of Business Boltzmann
  05/23/06
...
Unhinged pale shrine
  05/23/06
Longhorn law has a bit of a storied past around the law scho...
Unhinged pale shrine
  05/23/06
Olasky's bitch!
Big mother sex offender
  05/23/06
...
Topaz Talented Place Of Business Boltzmann
  05/23/06
The cheaters' culture doesn't encourage success or condemn f...
Big mother sex offender
  05/23/06
WHITE GIRLS AND AZN GUYS
Orange goal in life
  06/16/06
So was this flame?
chest-beating henna heaven degenerate
  06/16/06
A friend of mine at UT confirmed there was a cheating scanda...
ultramarine histrionic regret set
  06/16/06
...
insecure rigor
  10/02/06
I love when stupid people get pwned. This kind of shit just...
Mewling jet rigpig
  10/02/06


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Date: May 21st, 2006 11:23 PM
Author: mustard soul-stirring boistinker hairy legs

The principal students involved in the cheating scandal surrounding Con Law I have been discovered (I'm not going to name names). The students implicated have begun naming other students. Dean Ramos (dean of Student Affairs) is fixing the curve for the remaining students in section 3. More info to follow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829193)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:24 PM
Author: erotic adventurous clown

Dismissed as in kicked out of law school? Or just failed the class?

edit: also, what was the method of cheating?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829194)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:31 PM
Author: mustard soul-stirring boistinker hairy legs

Some are being told to return to Austin for pending honor code violations councils (the method used to expel students here). They will be allowed to argue that they should not be expelled, but there is a pretty heavy presumption against them in cases like this. Others are going to probably be given an F with a disciplinary mark on their record and will be required to retake the class Pass/Fail in the fall.

The students hid notes outside the classroom and used the internet during a closed book test. Some students met with each other during the test.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829239)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:33 PM
Author: erotic adventurous clown

Have you talked to any of them after they got caught?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829251)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:36 PM
Author: mustard soul-stirring boistinker hairy legs

I've only talked one girl about it. She didn't really want to talk about it, obviously. They are all trying to lay low and get there shit together, it seems. Most of them aren't in Austin right now, anyways.

A few of these students had firm jobs and judicial internships that they will probably have to quit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829262)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:38 PM
Author: erotic adventurous clown

Even if they just get an F and not get kicked out, they might have problems when they apply to the bar. I'd just drop out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829271)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:41 PM
Author: Lake address

Even the F with notation on their transcript is fucking brutal - that kind of thing will follow you for a really long time. As much as I hate cheating, it seems kind of sad that this one incident can ruin someone's life for many years.

edit - I mean, I guess it doesn't ruin their lives, just derails them a little. But in xoxo terms it ruins their lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829283)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:43 PM
Author: Wonderful pearl mexican property

Then they shouldn't have fucking cheated. They knew the consequences if they got caught. They rolled the dice and got snake eyes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829296)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:47 PM
Author: Lake address

I guess that's one response. Another option is to respond with compassion and forgiveness for what was a poor choice, granted, but might just be a youthful mistake. However, the latter doesn't really fly in xoxo-land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829316)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:51 PM
Author: Wonderful pearl mexican property

Youthful mistake? 24-year olds aren't "youthful". This isn't middle school where kids really don't know any better. They knew that by cheating they would get better grades, giving themselves an unfair advantage over classmates with regard to summer and post-graduation opportunities. They knew that by cheating they would dick over their classmates. Cheating is the academic equivalent of steroids and it should never be excusable, especially for people who aren't young but instead are about to start their professional careers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829344)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:52 PM
Author: Lake address

thank you for illustrating my point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829349)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:54 PM
Author: Wonderful pearl mexican property

Uhh, what point? That they should be forgiven? If you haven't learned that cheating is bad by the time you are 24, you're never going to learn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829361)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 12:08 AM
Author: Lake address

the point that the forgiveness route doesn't fly on xoxo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829433)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 12:13 AM
Author: Concupiscible rose stage cuckoldry

it pretty much doesn't fly anywhere...what's the point of rules if violations are forgiven?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829467)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 12:18 AM
Author: Sinister base

that's what they say about amnesty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829501)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 4:14 AM
Author: well-lubricated people who are hurt gas station

Except that that doesn't really hurt anyone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830866)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 4:14 AM
Author: well-lubricated people who are hurt gas station

The point is there's no legitimate grounds for forgiveness in this case, on XO or anywhere else. What would you do, wipe the slate clean and pretend it didn't happen?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830865)





Date: October 2nd, 2006 2:41 PM
Author: Translucent Chapel Coldplay Fan

I concur. They cheated. They deserve whatever punishment the school doles out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#6714807)





Date: June 16th, 2006 9:24 PM
Author: Ruby Metal Factory Reset Button

fuck, I can forgive them but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be punished

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#6004572)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 12:20 AM
Author: Aqua alpha
Subject: Exactly. Cheating is for money.

Law school is zero-sum. That biglaw job can only go to one person, just like that CoA clerkship. Big money is involved in cheating at this level. The cheaters took a risk that they got caught on, and they have to be punished so others will see rolling snake eyes ends the game for them. Remember that the guys they screwed out of CoA or biglaw offers wouldn't have anyone looking out for them had the cheaters been successful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829512)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 9:20 AM
Author: crimson quadroon jap
Subject: I completely agree

They should have known better.

If they get a slap on the wrist it will also create a shiTTTy precedent at whats supposed to be a prestigious T15.

The sympathy and compassion thing just doesn't work here. Why exactly should they not be expelled - what kind of message does this send to serious students at UT?

Pls note that I'm usually not a stickler for this kind of thing, but by the time you get to law school you should not be cheating on exams.

Exams in law school mean the difference between jobs and clerkships. Maybe I'm a gunner in the making but this kind of thing ought to be taken pretty seriously.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5831112)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 11:29 AM
Author: maize boyish cruise ship
Subject: they should be expelled

no question about it. a very immature and stupid decision. they screwed over everyone else in their class. if it can be shown that they cheated they should be gone, no gray area

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5831485)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 5:09 PM
Author: Godawful skinny woman

T16.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5839417)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 4:12 AM
Author: well-lubricated people who are hurt gas station

Bullshit. They chose to do something that they knew was wrong, unfair, and harmful to their fellow students. They also knew the punishment. These are adults, and everyone else is working hard to try to earn fair grades. They're lucky they're not immediately expelled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830861)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 4:37 PM
Author: Smoky orchestra pit

bull-fucking-shit. you're talking about people fucking over their fellow students. this is a zero sum game. it's not happy happy times like undergrad where who cares if someone cheats because i still get my A. they pushed people down the curve. they should fry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5839193)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 5:08 PM
Author: Godawful skinny woman

Youthful mistake my ass. They were adults who knew completely fucking well what they were doing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5839410)





Date: October 2nd, 2006 2:11 PM
Author: well-lubricated people who are hurt gas station

You're an idiot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#6714548)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 6:23 PM
Author: soggy exhilarant state gunner

this also seems to be an idiot situation in which to cheat. How much would the internet really help you during a timed exam? and don't students who are well prepared have their outline memorized, making notes a bit superfluous? I can at least understand being tempted if someone could get a copy of the actual exam ahead of time, but this seems like risking your entire career without even knowing if it will help your grade.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5833475)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:44 PM
Author: erotic adventurous clown

I'd say it'd ruin their lives or at least their professional careers. If they don't get kicked out and they actually get admitted to the bar, I don't know if firms would be willing to take a chance with a person who's integrity is questionable; they'd just be too much liability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829303)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:46 PM
Author: Lake address

my point is that they aren't dead, they aren't permanently crippled, they still have their health, they have their families, they can still get relatively well-paying jobs . . . their lives aren't ruined.

But for xoxo, losing your shot at biglaw (maybe permanently) is life-ruining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829310)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:48 PM
Author: Spectacular avocado mediation trailer park

Well, no, their lives aren't ruined, but do they have any chance whatsoever of getting past C&F? I'd imagine they don't; is that wrong?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829320)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:48 PM
Author: erotic adventurous clown

True. They may have to reconsider their career choices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829321)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:47 PM
Author: At-the-ready mahogany marketing idea

Their lives were already ruined when UT was the best school they could get into. This is more of a lateral move than anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829314)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:48 PM
Author: Lake address

ah, touche

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829318)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:49 PM
Author: erotic adventurous clown

T16pwn3d

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829327)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 12:14 AM
Author: Concupiscible rose stage cuckoldry

lateral? now they are free to do ibanking. i say its a promotion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829476)





Date: June 16th, 2006 9:23 PM
Author: Ruby Metal Factory Reset Button

fuck that. keep the firm job, and the money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#6004567)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:24 PM
Author: low-t senate death wish

This is good justice. It's good to hear them carry through.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829199)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:25 PM
Author: charcoal national fortuitous meteor

Link? I saw the other thread, thought it was flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829202)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:27 PM
Author: low-t senate death wish

Actually, linking the original threads on this would be helpful, or a quick summary and timeline would be helpful, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829214)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 2:30 AM
Author: Carmine Motley Church Building Toaster

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&mc=110&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830345)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:26 PM
Author: Wonderful pearl mexican property

How do you actually build enough of a case against someone? Those students can name anyone they want, including innocent people that they might not like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829209)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:27 PM
Author: Garnet den

I totally looked at my notes during the test.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829212)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:30 PM
Author: low-t senate death wish

Predictive flame: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=418621&mc=6&forum_id=2

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&mc=110&forum_id=2

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=416129&mc=11&forum_id=2



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829230)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:35 PM
Author: Orange goal in life

are you bashing my white girls/asian guys thread?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829258)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 2:30 AM
Author: Carmine Motley Church Building Toaster

13 sounds about right for what I was initially indicating here:

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&mc=110&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830348)





Date: May 21st, 2006 11:50 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac garrison

isn't it pretty clear that all this is a lie?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829336)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 12:03 AM
Author: Razzmatazz spot fanboi

There was a UT student blog that also reported on this. Might not be flame.

EDIT: http://amicus--curiae.livejournal.com/67887.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829414)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 2:32 AM
Author: Carmine Motley Church Building Toaster
Subject: as did the definitive UT student blog

http://wingsandvodka.blogs.com/blog/2006/05/official_ut_che.html

not that stupid shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830358)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 7:48 PM
Author: Cerebral glassy ticket booth kitty cat

What a douche. I'll bet that bitch spends all day on this board.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5833979)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 12:08 AM
Author: pink wagecucks nibblets

hahaha, they are gonna get whats coming to them!! I hope they enjoy their careers as either a coder or paralegal, lol!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829439)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 12:17 AM
Author: Honey-headed box office

I feel bad for them. I think they need to be punished severely (F in the course sounds quite reasonable) though, mainly because cheaters get caught so rarely. That's really the only reason I don't think forgiveness should be considered in these cases- it's not because I'm a tough bastard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829495)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 12:18 AM
Author: Orange goal in life

I think they should be hung in a public square.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829503)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 12:33 AM
Author: Hilarious coffee pot pit

So according to that UT blog (that GTO posted), they matched students fingerprints in the ladies' bathroom to the fingerprints from bar registration?

That's hardcore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829588)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 2:34 AM
Author: Carmine Motley Church Building Toaster

I imagine it went something like

- pin at least 1 based on fingerprints

- give those fingerprinted the opportunity to stay, with an F, and pass/fail in the fall, *if* they implicate others, or else they get summarily expelled

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830375)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 4:16 AM
Author: well-lubricated people who are hurt gas station

WOW!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830873)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 12:37 AM
Author: Costumed home

There is talk of UT forfeiting last year's BCS. USC will be named Champions within the fortnight!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829602)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 2:35 AM
Author: Carmine Motley Church Building Toaster

What happens when USC gets DQed BUSHPWN3D-style?

oh, my trojans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830379)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 12:56 AM
Author: Nofapping sooty ceo black woman

hard to believe a group of girls would try and hatch a cheating plot, but im not surprised they instantly started turning each other in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829685)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 1:21 AM
Author: pearly sound barrier parlour

women rely on each other too much. cheating is best done alone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829823)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 2:30 AM
Author: Sickened locale

My father was an LAPD officer for 20 years. His advice to me as a teenager was: "ANYTHING wrong/illicit/illegal is best done alone."

Never leave a witness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830349)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 4:17 AM
Author: well-lubricated people who are hurt gas station

Well, you can always just kill them after.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830875)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 1:24 AM
Author: Narrow-minded mint selfie double fault

prisoner's dilemma, bitch!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829840)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 1:35 AM
Author: Tan Haunting Point

NASHEQUILIBRIUMPWNED!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829923)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 3:56 AM
Author: Drunken know-it-all field

LOL!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830783)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 9:34 AM
Author: low-t senate death wish

176.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5831142)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 1:35 AM
Author: frozen ruddy plaza prole

Expulsion seems pretty appropriate to me given a) the zero-sum stakes involved, b) the huge advantage cheating would provide, and c) the difficulty of catching cheaters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5829929)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 1:50 AM
Author: Contagious Electric Furnace Kitchen

no. we should be nice to them. they are just innocent kids trying to make it through this game called life (just like those guys at enron)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830053)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 2:00 AM
Author: frozen ruddy plaza prole

It's a pretty big deal too. UT divides into 100 person sections that essentially don't interact. That means your curve is based entirely against the 100 people you have all of your classes with (except one smaller class with only a portion of the section). If 13 people cheated, that means over 10% of the section was colluding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830118)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 2:00 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle blathering candlestick maker juggernaut

This post is probably the only even remotely prestigious thing you've ever done with your life.

That being said, they made a rational calculation based on the benefits of cheating, the risk of getting caught, and the punishment that would occur if they did get caught.

They lost their bet. Now they can twist in the wind.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830115)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 4:23 PM
Author: Filthy Marvelous Corner

there is so much beauty in this post. i cried.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5832865)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 6:18 PM
Author: chrome tripping faggot firefighter center

These aren't economic utility bots. They're morons who acted emotionally and against their rational best interest. Still, hang them.

(Probability of getting caught * goodbye law + probability of not getting caught * slightly higher grade < 0, for pretty much everyone.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5833439)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 5:14 PM
Author: Godawful skinny woman

"These aren't economic utility bots."

Yes, they are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5839443)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 2:24 AM
Author: Carmine Motley Church Building Toaster

DING! fags

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830300)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 4:05 AM
Author: brindle range incel

i can't believe you guys haven't discussed how horrible the cheating plan was. i mean GOING OUTSIDE TO TALK; 13 PEOPLE. horrible plan. the notes in the bathroom isn't a bad idea. but to have 13 people share is ridiculous.

the kid with his outline is his pocket, known only to himself is smiling right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830836)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 4:14 AM
Author: Tan Haunting Point

It's UT, what did you expect?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5830867)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 9:31 AM
Author: crimson quadroon jap
Subject: interesting

Based only on these threads - it Does sound like a painfully stupid plan. 13 adults colluding in the hallway and getting notes from the bathroom during an ongoing exam....thats the part that seems weird.

I guess things like this have to happen every once in awhile to reinforce how TTT some schools are. I'll talk to Leiter in Chicago about how this might be factored into his magical rankings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5831131)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 9:35 AM
Author: Buff infuriating tanning salon
Subject: no surprise

I see cheating happen all the time at undergrad. it's hardly a surprise that it happens at law school as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5831146)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 5:16 PM
Author: Godawful skinny woman

What could the advantage to having tons of people be? If you're going to get lots of people involved, you might as well try to sink them by providing a shitty outline that contains wrong information.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5839453)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 11:22 AM
Author: Duck-like Crackhouse Deer Antler

I know very little about this unfolding story but I don't believe for a second that the administration actually took latent prints from outline in bathroom and matched them to student prints from LSAT registration. No way. First of all that process would take a long time (to retrieve prints and see if there are any matches). Crime labs have heavy backlogs and they take a while to conduct these analyses. No way could they have turned them around so quickly. Also, these labs have more important things to do--like solving violent crimes.

Second of all, I doubt UT would actually go so far as to try and fingerprint the outline.

A far more plausible scenario is that the administration bluffed and told students that they were about to analyze outline for prints. And students under suspicion freaked out and gave names of other suspected communists.

Of course this is all complete conjecture on my part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5831445)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 11:31 AM
Author: vigorous iridescent locus

communists?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5831497)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 10:59 AM
Author: Stimulating Slate Meetinghouse

Proletariats unite!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5837498)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 5:54 PM
Author: Topaz Talented Place Of Business Boltzmann

No one said anything about LSAT. It was bar C/F fingerprints. The bar people are like one block away from UT's campus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5839704)





Date: June 16th, 2006 9:31 PM
Author: Ruby Metal Factory Reset Button

you realize that fingerprint analysis needs to be done by an expert, right? it's pretty unlikely the Texas State Bar has an employee who is qualified to examine crime scenes for latent prints

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#6004597)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 11:38 AM
Author: opaque geriatric theater reading party

someone should tell leiter that even the 13 stupidest people at any T14 wouldn't get caught like this, let alone be involved in such a stupid plan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5831522)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 11:39 AM
Author: vigorous iridescent locus

people cheat, even smart ones.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5831526)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 12:03 PM
Author: apoplectic nubile business firm

Only the dumb ones get caught.

Therefore they deserve to be punished

Any names yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5831637)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 12:55 PM
Author: opaque geriatric theater reading party

exactly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5831865)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 1:01 PM
Author: yellow beady-eyed partner public bath

Only the dumb get caught. But if you got caught, you must have been dumb.

CIRCULARLOGICPWN3D

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5831891)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 1:03 PM
Author: vigorous iridescent locus

credited. also, many supposedly smart people get caught for "cheating" all the time. look at all the corporate scandals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5831898)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 3:35 PM
Author: apoplectic nubile business firm

Circular but nonetheless airtight logic.

They might have been smart, but they were not smart enough to avoid getting caught

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5832594)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 3:57 PM
Author: vigorous iridescent locus

you people are seriously annoying and retarded. it's not really about being "smart" or "dumb," as anyone in their right mind (read: non-xoxo people) knows and understands that these UT students are relatively bright. the harvard-bred wall street clowns who were busted several weeks ago for insider trading certainly were bright; and they only got caught because their better judgement was clouded by their greed. the same desire to succeed at all costs was presumably present here. there's a difference between being too stupid to successfully pull off a caper and allowing greed and a sick lust for success supersede your better judgement. this difference is so obvious that only an xoxo poster could confuse or overlook it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5832727)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 11:26 PM
Author: well-lubricated people who are hurt gas station

Perhaps, but here they were obviously both too stupid to successfully pull off the caper and also filled with greed and lust.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5835343)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 5:21 PM
Author: Godawful skinny woman

"CIRCULARLOGICPWN3D"

Or TRUEBYDEFINITIONPWN3D!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5839484)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 12:11 PM
Author: provocative cuck principal's office

Have fun on the C&F portion of the bar.

Auto-ding in many states.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5831674)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 12:15 PM
Author: vigorous iridescent locus

their legal careers are essentially over

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5831691)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 1:12 PM
Author: Concupiscible rose stage cuckoldry

actually a point should be made that this scheme was pretty sophmoric....they were gonna meet in the bathrooms to talk about the exam and look at an outline they hid? did the same people keep taking bathroom breaks? at my school only 1 person can go at a time, but regardless, this sounds like a middle school plan.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5831938)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 1:36 PM
Author: hairless transparent casino ladyboy

whats funny is that at a school like UT they were all guarenteed good jobs no matter how they did, but now they are as P3WNED as somebody in the bottom of the class at my TTT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5832047)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 2:44 PM
Author: cheese-eating wrinkle

Agreed. And they evidently threw away the outline in the bathroom trash can? They probably should have come up with a better place to get rid of the damning evidence. If you're gonna cheat, at least have a little pride in your work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5832318)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 5:17 PM
Author: Godawful skinny woman

"If you're gonna cheat, at least have a little pride in your work."

I have a couple good methods, but you'd be crazy to think I'll share them with anonymous people on this board, much less people I know at school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5839463)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 1:47 PM
Author: Trip embarrassed to the bone hell

The eyes PWN3D of Texas are upon you,

All the PWN3D live-long day.

The eyes PWN3D of Texas are upon you,

You cannot PWN3D get away.

Do not think PWN3D you can escape them,

At night PWN3D or early in the morn.

The eyes PWN3D of Texas are upon you,

Till Gabriel PWN3D blows his horn.

PWN3D!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5832092)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 1:55 PM
Author: flesh comical theater stage

What a fucking TTT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5832127)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 2:05 PM
Author: Charismatic jew

Tell us what you really think

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5832179)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 4:09 PM
Author: Bright cuckold

I'd love to hear your take on the situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5832788)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 7:32 PM
Author: Dun heady lay son of senegal

Talk to me baby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5833905)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 4:00 PM
Author: violent razzle brunch

Who was the rat?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5832749)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 4:06 PM
Author: Concupiscible rose stage cuckoldry

they should beat him with socks filled with bars of soap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5832779)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 4:09 PM
Author: vigorous iridescent locus

or nickels.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5832789)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 7:25 PM
Author: Orange goal in life

Why didn't they flush the outline down the toilet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5833873)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 8:05 PM
Author: Peach vibrant stag film

So is there ANY evidence that this actually occurred, apart from 2-3 threads on xoxo and that blog (which cites these threads)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5834068)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 5:22 PM
Author: Godawful skinny woman

No.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5839496)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 11:13 PM
Author: milky thriller indirect expression area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5835215)





Date: May 22nd, 2006 11:13 PM
Author: Orange goal in life

Rumor has it that it was mainly white girls w/ asian boyfriends...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5835224)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 11:15 AM
Author: pink wagecucks nibblets

its probably some blacks and hispanics, only they would think that 13 people going to the bathroom would not be suspicious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5837600)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 3:43 PM
Author: low-t senate death wish

http://longhornlaw.net/blog/

http://rov.livejournal.com/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5838886)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 5:03 PM
Author: Topaz Talented Place Of Business Boltzmann
Subject: LINO UPDATE

FIRST OF ALL: what UT student is still in Austin? He must be a loser. Second of all, anyone who had Graglia knows that Graglia can't even use his computer. So why in the world would you think that he is posttting on XO? How dumb are you? Of course Graglia doesn't know anything b/c it's the admin that deals with the cheating, not him. He just grades and falls asleep in his office.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5839383)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 9:11 PM
Author: Unhinged pale shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5840672)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 9:14 PM
Author: Unhinged pale shrine

Longhorn law has a bit of a storied past around the law school . Unfortunately, the posts and legal research memoranda that brought it to notoriety have been deleted, so only a select few can truly appreciate its glory. But it's probably best to not take that blog too seriously.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5840691)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 11:14 PM
Author: Big mother sex offender

Olasky's bitch!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5841647)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 5:00 PM
Author: Topaz Talented Place Of Business Boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5839359)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 11:15 PM
Author: Big mother sex offender

The cheaters' culture doesn't encourage success or condemn failure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#5841653)





Date: June 16th, 2006 7:56 PM
Author: Orange goal in life

WHITE GIRLS AND AZN GUYS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#6004083)





Date: June 16th, 2006 9:30 PM
Author: chest-beating henna heaven degenerate

So was this flame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#6004596)





Date: June 16th, 2006 9:35 PM
Author: ultramarine histrionic regret set

A friend of mine at UT confirmed there was a cheating scandal, but she said that no one she knew had been expelled or punished, and they were considering making the class pass/fail. But this is old news, maybe some action was taken that she didn't know about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#6004616)





Date: October 2nd, 2006 2:09 PM
Author: insecure rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#6714535)





Date: October 2nd, 2006 2:15 PM
Author: Mewling jet rigpig

I love when stupid people get pwned. This kind of shit just makes my day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&forum_id=2#6714581)