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Date: April 26th, 2019 10:14 AM Author: deep church
everyone was freaking the fuck out like it was the end of the world
especially boomers in charge of law firms
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38145467) |
Date: April 26th, 2019 10:23 AM Author: Odious piazza
There was massive panic and whether that was justified depends entirely on who you ask. I know people that got fucked career wise and never recovered. I also know people that survived that got cheap real estate and profited off of ITE. People just starting out that either got laid off or couldn't get jobs were hit the hardest, along with older people that lost their jobs.
At the early stages there were massive layoffs and no one knew if they were going to hang on. Still, the economy had been so good for so long that many thought everything would just bounce back. It took a while before the phrase "new normal" started to enter conversations which was the point at which people were seriously starting to get legit terrified. One of the crazy results was that no one left jobs anymore, everyone held on to what they had, so there were almost no open jobs. Those that were open had absurd number of applicants.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38145493) |
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Date: April 26th, 2019 3:18 PM Author: flushed well-lubricated locale roommate
for the most part - the people that got screwed just "went away"
I know a guy from my T25 law school who was in the top 1/3 who didnt get a job, and after ITE he just ended up doing part time work until getting fired.
new jobs were filled by new kids many years later.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38147251) |
Date: April 26th, 2019 10:27 AM Author: soul-stirring buck-toothed party of the first part field
It ruined a lot of peoples lives but you just dont hear about it. I suspect the current opiate crisis stems partly from it.
Revealed how quickly and easily corporations are willing to lay everyone off. How quickly law firms will sacrifice every last associate before a single equity partner. How laughable "moral hazard" is as both dems and gop rushed to give megabanks cheap lines of credit to save themselves. Ideology is easy when times are good but when there's an actual panic? Lol.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38145509)
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Date: April 26th, 2019 10:45 AM Author: Odious piazza
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Sorry to hear that. Plenty of people outright killed self or spiraled into drug addiction that killed them.
Sure, Nutella might say it was nbd but, for example, Earl got got. What was most interesting is I remember a thread where everyone was discussing whether people would be willing to take a paycut so everyone could survive and have less hours over the layoffs and Nutella bitterly opposed it. Pretty interesting insight into the totally different perspectives of people about ITE, both during and after.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38145646) |
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Date: April 26th, 2019 12:17 PM Author: White histrionic home chad
Her roommate (who was her best friend) went through an old cell phone belonging to the escort when the escort got a new phone and left town for the weekend. Roommate was very suspicious because the escort would occasionally get nice gifts (escort was the first person I knew with a really big flatscreen tv) and go on trips a lot, and "worked from home doing marketing for a bank." Anyway, on the phone she found all sorts of texts to "johns" and price lists. It wasn't that much at all, like $250 for sex.
The most hilarious part was that it cost like $275 for the escort to piss on you. This cost more than sex. That was part of her "menu"
Roommate took the phone out to the bars and showed all of us. It was scandalous. Roommate was livid because escort was apparently bringing johns over to their apartment while the roommate was at work. You could read about it in the texts
Also FWIW I got a BJ from the escort once, but of course it was a normal shack up and I didn't pay. Great natty tits.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38146259) |
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Date: April 26th, 2019 10:32 AM Author: Odious piazza
"I suspect the current opiate crisis stems partly from it."
Absolutely. And the death of much of the center of the country.
What many don't realize is that many of the jobs that were lost never actually came back. Melissa, 56, who had a great job in accounting in Cincinatti never got her job back, or a comparable job. They ultimately automated her function away. However, two new jobs coding whatever popped up somewhere else. That doesn't help Melissa at all and the companies hiring generally want to import H1Bs to fill them anyway.
"Revealed how quickly and easily corporations are willing to lay everyone off. "
Absolutely. Any illusions that our society had not become totally corrupt vanished. Seeing that people already filthy rich weren't willing to accept lower profits so their employees that needed the money to eat or pay their mortgage wouldn't be totally fucked is something that ultimately made calls for socialism more acceptable again.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38145543) |
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Date: April 26th, 2019 1:57 PM Author: Purple dashing pocket flask bawdyhouse
CR
Threats to large-scale stop work make the decision to outsource even easier.
I work in consulting and in every major merger i've seen, back office jobs get automated/shipped to India, and no new jobs in USA/EU are created. This is where the "synergies" come from to justify deals to the rat-faced men who run things.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38146806) |
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Date: April 26th, 2019 2:40 PM Author: aqua legend
very very cr.
It made me realized that firms do not give a FLYING FUCK about Associates.
You have to look out for yourself.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38147070) |
Date: April 26th, 2019 11:36 AM Author: domesticated business firm boistinker
I started college around 2008 - so I vividly remember the recession. I remember the market collapsing and stock prices getting obliterated and then as time went on I came to appreciate the other effects on house prices, social behaviors etc. In many ways, the world really ended then - or at least a line in the sand was drawn. That line at least separated the world of Boomers and 90's American Optimism from "The Now" It was a world that started to die in 2001, but was finally butchered with the remains hauled to the charnel ground to rot from 2008 to 2012.
For a while when the recession started, there was actually optimism among my cohort - because house prices became cheap as FUCK - and we were still in undergrad, or just about to get out. A lot of us had some money stashed as well - from saving, dealing drugs, working shit jobs or other little hustles that we had busied ourselves with as kids. We all kept thinking (actually, we were constantly told by boomers) that because we were in a good college we had a really strong shot at getting great jobs and had solid opportunity in front of us. After all, housing was newly cheap.
I think that the 08-12 period was the time that really broke Boomers brains. A lot of us fell for really bad Boomer advice because we thought that they still had a solid grasp of what was going on - or were at least less clueless than us. They sure acted confidently and we had no reason to doubt them.
Looking back on it, I think they started to run amok and stick those ostrich heads as far into the sand as they could ram them. It's like in the movies when you are an unwitting crewman on a boat in tough seas and then realize the captain of the ship has gone insane.
The two most damaging Boomer lies that pervaded this period were "Study what you like and the money will follow" - which had been pimped for a couple of decades by this point and the second lie that surfaced and rose to prominence was "You Just Need More Education (TM)" - hence the massive push of boomers to send their kids or pressure them into grad school to "Ride the Recession Out."
Looking back on it, it was a convenient way for my parents (and I'm sure millions of others in my age cohort) to abdicate the responsibility of thinking rationally about the situation or telling their kid that shit's gonna be hard for a long time and that they are far from special - and that millions of competition have been imported to fuck them over.
Maybe the Boomers just couldn't accept it, to honestly apprehend the extent of their behavior was just too horrible and sparked a cognitive dissonance?
This type of mindless parrot behavior made me really think about the true nature of the Boomer - maybe this was their default strategy? They had been weakened by decades of effortless prosperity - perhaps just waiting for another lucky break was the only thing they really knew how to do?
If I had been thinking logically, I would have gotten a job as a mailman or a union dockworker/carpenter the day I finished my last course requirement in 2011 or so. Summa Cum Laude in two subjects. Even then I had a good amount of cash and investments that I was grinding up little by little. With a steady paycheck I could have gotten a sweet deal on properties that today are selling for double or triple of what they went for in 2012. Could have been a blue collar millionaire and happy about it.
Unfortunately, I was not awake yet and was still deluded into thinking that Law School (could have easily been another carrot on the string though, I was rudderless and grasping at whatever line of bullshit my Boomer parents were throwing at me) was the answer.
I didn't yet realize that they only intended for me to meet whatever petty goal they had set not for my own personal benefit - but so they could tell their friends at cocktail parties that I had a prestige job. Even if it meant me being broke and in debt for decades. Only later did I realize how simple and talismanic the thinking of a Boomer really is - they just are dazzled by those shiny degrees on the wall. All form, no content. This was the hardest thing for me to understand.
It was only years later, when I made over $50,000 in one day (before taxes of course), that the only thing my Mom could say to support her son was "This is why you should go back to school and get a PHD." Money literally meant nothing to them - Maybe because it always came to boomers so easily? No matter how prosperous their son was, he still didn't have that shiny credential. That was when I realized I could have had a billion dollars, a supermodel wife and a flourishing family and that STILL wouldn't have made them as happy as if I had been a broke adjunct with a PHD living in a car on foodstamps. Maybe they just couldn't accept the fact that their kid did it his way and not theirs?
For me I quickly realized that Law School wasn't the answer - I just didn't like it and it made me miserable - so I dropped out. From the frying pan into the fire.
After dropping out of LS and drinking away more than a few months while I was looking for work as a Lib Arts college graduate, I began to really comprehend the Boomer and to appreciate just how fucked I really was. I started living the ITE stereotypes.
Moving back home with my first "job" at an unpaid internship at a small boiler room company run by disgusting boomer pigs and their Gen X errand boy. This was 2012 or 2013 or so. On a fluke I got into an actual somewhat decent salaried job, but with no mobility by another oppressive Boomer boss.
Things started to get better for me around 2015. I had become more jaded and disciplined. By then I had quit drinking and eventually smoking. The clarity caused me to became a lot more disciplined and strategic and gave me the guts to carry my hustles forward.
Since college I was always doing little side stuff to get money because something inside of me knew that the only way to get ahead with the hand I had been dealt was to hustle.
I eventually had enough money, security and credentials to break away from my job and start my own practice, working for myself. Then came two other lines of business where I couldn't imagine the success I would have had as a clueless college kid, watching that stock market start to drop in 2008.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38146034) |
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Date: April 26th, 2019 2:53 PM Author: racy pisswyrm
very good job
lots of smart and talented people on xo
just read it and weep
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38147132) |
Date: April 26th, 2019 11:49 AM Author: Offensive cuckold
it was miserable but ironically managed not to lose my job then, although in retrospect i wished i had and not wasted 2 more years at that shit shop. i just happened to be doing corporate work in the energy sector which recovered pretty quickly.
will never trust the banks, mortgage brokers or any of these worthless money shufflers again, as if there were any reason to trust them in the first.
My boomer mother bought up some depressed real estate though in spring 2009 and i expect it will make for quite a nice inheritance one day.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38146117) |
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Date: April 26th, 2019 3:44 PM Author: snowy incel
cr, that stuff really dried up and the people who experienced that 15 years ago are old and the culture of it is foreign now. People aren't given blank checks to go out with summers any more.
My firm took away the little things, like sparking water, fresh fruit, and granola bars in the kitchen. PPP of >$2M, but no more sparkling water or bananas. Combination of greed and fear.
Oh, and then they laid off like 40% of the associates and counsels over a period of 18 months and hiring is permanently down.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38147429) |
Date: April 26th, 2019 12:06 PM Author: Hairraiser national shitlib
It broke people's brains.
Opioids, Obama/Bernie/Trump never happen without it.
It is why George W. Bush is a uniquely evil figure in history.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38146209) |
Date: April 26th, 2019 12:09 PM Author: jade corner
Graduate in the Great Recession/Depression, without family connections -> no jobs.
Computer Science degree? No jobs.
Biological Sciences degree? No jobs.
Summa Cum Laude? No jobs.
Live in the suburbs? No jobs.
Live in the city? No jobs.
Past internship experience? No jobs.
Went on like this from 2008 until 2012.
A lot of my friends and acquaintances developed crippling health problems or died as a result of the dynamics of the Depression.
During 2010 you would go on walks and house after house you’d pass would have notices on them that the city had shut off the water and placed liens on the house due to lack of bill payments.
It was also a very two track world. People from families who kept their jobs and especially those who had family friends to give their kids the Hook Up, saw it as an era of unbridled prosperity because everything was so cheap. That group came up with the Millennial stereotype, assuming that it applied to a generation rather than just a small number of rich kids.
Between 2012-2016 things heated up in tech, and overall people started being able to find some jobs. Still, virtually no one has kids or their own houses, and PTSD runs rampant across the generation.
A desire for vengeance remains unfulfilled.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38146225) |
Date: April 26th, 2019 12:26 PM Author: vibrant kitchen
My mom, dad, and brother - all college educated Americans who played by the rules got laid off. I was a young biglaw associate trying to stay employed by hook or by crook while keeping my folks afloat. When my brother couldn’t get a job he moved in with me and I took care of him for 18 months.
My parents jobs never came back. My mom got into her retirement and now openly says she needs to die early because she has nothing saved. It was the beginning of the end for my dad. As months of unemployment went on he withdrew further from society and started drinking handles of bottom shelf rum to dull the boredom and pain he felt for being a loser. I tried to help, but I was in a big city trying to support my family and didn’t really grasp but was happening at the time. When he didn’t return my calls and texts for a day I asked his landlord to look in on him. He was dead, facedown on his couch surrounded by empties.
My brother eventually got on his feet and is doing fine. I survived and paid off my loans and put together a nest egg. But one of the big reasons I fled to government service was ITE, it’s why I’ve got a go bag, it’s why my wife always asks why we need to have such a big emergency fund. It’s why my politics are radicalized.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38146318)
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Date: April 26th, 2019 12:39 PM Author: vibrant kitchen
For sure. My Mom went from something white color but nothing fancy (think like an editor or bookkeeper) and went literal years looking for something equivalent because of how she thought of herself. Now she basically manages a dollar store. She’d have been in a much better position if she’d sucked it up earlier.
Still she figured it out better than my dad. My brother took what he could get as fast as he could because he hadn’t built up that pride and now he’s doing as well as could be expected.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38146414)
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Date: April 26th, 2019 12:41 PM Author: Arousing range
In my area, attorneys went from trying to make a lot of money to just trying to pay the bills. Someone did a study to where over 20% of the attorneys active attorneys in our county either moved away or retired.
Real estate prices were insane. I saw a condo that sold for 130k in 2006 sell for 35k in 2010. That kind of fluctuation was not uncommon in real estate prices.
There were attorneys who decided to specialize in foreclosure, and the mills were taking full blown residential home foreclosures for $800 flat fee per case. Our county designated one judge as the foreclosure judge and it was basically all he did.
The attorneys I know who took those foreclosure jobs - and I knew 3 - not one of them is currently practicing law. They all quit.
My firm, which was primarily a real estate firm with a litigation department, went from ~15 attorneys in 2006 to 4 attorneys (2 partners, 1 associate, 1 "associate" who ran a wills & trusts firm in another building).
Lots that sold for 100k were being sold for $1 because nobody wanted to pay the POA memberships (15k+ per year).
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Date: April 26th, 2019 2:19 PM Author: titillating police squad electric furnace
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XO's diaper crew greeted me with "huhhh" when I point this out, but it was pretty easy to get interviewed for jobs back in 08-10. The HR mafia's applicant tracking systems either didn't exist yet or were just being implemented, so resumes and apps were looked at by a person pretty often.
Employers were also fairly understanding about you being unemployed.
Now if you apply without a job there's an immediate presumption that you've been incarcerated or are mentally ill/on drugs.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38146950) |
Date: April 26th, 2019 1:49 PM Author: hot plaza partner
For once in my life, being a risk averse faggot actually paid off. I had taken bankruptcy and secured credit in 2007 lolschool, under the theory that I wanted to have a basic understanding of those topics just in case the economy ever crashed (lol). I did my 2L summer in biglaw with absolutely no intention of doing bankruptcy. By the time I actually got there, Lehman had filed and I did nothing but bankruptcy and receivership for three years. When things bounced back, I slowly managed to get myself staffed on other matters and transitioned the hell away from bankruptcy.
And now, of course, bankruptcy is totally dead and anybody who actually wanted to be in that field is going to have to do something else. ljl at us.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38146752) |
Date: April 26th, 2019 2:10 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Wine Senate Feces
I don't think people quite recall the level of sheer panic that was happening in September 2008. McCain suspending his campaign was a gimmick, but just think about the severity to even do something like that. I listened to a lot of news and talk radio on my commutes at that time, and it was just another level of panic. It was practically post-9/11 paranoia. Part of this was masked by the fact that it was slowly coming for about a year anyway, and that news had so much hyper obsessive focus on politics (huge shift from say even 1998) including Obama '08 that it got a bit lost.
The stories of people just walking away from their homes. I mean, just insane. Foreclosures everywhere. For sale signs on homes up and down a block and they'd be up for months at a time. It was like everyone was abandoning places like Detroit and Cleveland and no one wanted to be the last one around.
For law, the Spring '09 layoffs were shocking. Friday after Friday, learning about hundreds laid off here or there. Imagine learning your summer program was canceled. Or your start date was deferred *a full year*. Or the offer revoked. People itt already said that many never really fully recovered. There's a permanent lost generation of law grads from 2006-2010-ish who suffered. (The 2011-2015 window were those who went in knowing about the financial crisis and came out with no job, but in a way I think many ended up okay, not with the scarring of having an offer revoked or being a 25yo with 3 mos' experience then suddenly and abruptly "downsized.")
Also the bipartisan consensus (it was mostly Bush's responsibility for the bailouts tbh) was just throw money at everyone and hope they don't tank worse. Which appears to have been the right answer, moral hazard and all.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38146899) |
Date: April 26th, 2019 3:17 PM Author: chartreuse newt indian lodge
It was surreal being a 3L in the class of 2009. THere was a 6-8 week period in January-March when multiple law firms were announcing rescinded or delayed offers almost every day. There was a stretch in February where dozens of firms announced layoffs ranging from dozens to literally hundreds.
I have stark memories of checking Above the Law in class and seeing the firms announce rescinded offers in real time. Then you'd see the guys you knew in the class start tearing up and sniffling right before your eyes. it was brutal.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38147248) |
Date: April 26th, 2019 4:02 PM Author: snowy incel
Agree with a lot of the above.
I was a few years into practice and I remember how the work just stopped completely. I went from more than I knew what to do with to coming in and literally surfing the net the entire day until it seemed acceptable to leave after the partners did. There would be occasional routine work, like 34 Act reporting, but deals just stopped - some died (particularly leveraged deals) and then new ones never came to replace them. The first deal of mine that died was summer/fall 2007, I think.
It's no exaggeration that we were all waiting for the knock on the door (or email) to come to the conference room Friday at noon.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38147516) |
Date: April 26th, 2019 4:24 PM Author: Dun Galvanic Chapel
latham fondled people's scrotums.
in broader terms, a lot of the shit related to "socialism" as it is manifesting today is probably a backlash to the consolidation/"wicking up" of wealth and assets which took place during the recession. people and institutions with some liquid capital to buy up distressed assets did GREAT during the crisis. and that redistribution has never been undone, even with our 3%+ GDP growth, leading to a diffuse simmering rage barely hidden by the mask of "america" 2019.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38147600) |
Date: April 26th, 2019 9:39 PM Author: Nofapping gas station background story
The thing to remember is that no one was safe. Good, competent, hardworking people, sometimes with hundreds of thousands in student debt, were being laid off left and right. Entire classes were gone and the juniors got hit the hardest. For the lucky few that hung on, every day was a living hell as they waited to see of they were next. The boomer bosses would bleed them dry to make up for lost profits.
I still remember leaving Moscow for Ukraine at midnght on new years even because my work Visa expired and at the last minute they told me they would not renew. They owed me 4 months severance under Russian law and gave me nothing. When asked they said: sue us in Russian court. And then they threatened to give a negative recommendation if I even tried to challenge it.
Our landlord in Ukraine checked us in and gave us this pittying look. "It will take ten years to recover" she said. At the time I thought she was joking, but that is how long it takes. It steals ten years of your life and that's if you're one of the lucky ones who make it back at all. When I look at my linked in connections from my class of 2008, the overwhelming majority are just gone. This includes Harvard and yale grads.
I worked on a temp doc review project with an HLS grad for over 6 months in 2010. At a firm meeting in 2011, a yale grad with yale law review experience (who btw was also tall and very good looking) was asked why she chose the firm. She answered "because I like being employed". Later that year, the entire firm fell apart. She works as a staff attorney now. And shes one of the few I still see on LinkedIn.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38148904) |
Date: April 26th, 2019 9:44 PM Author: flushed well-lubricated locale roommate
the other thing is, in biglaw, all bonuses were canceled for ~2 years. Then bonuses came back at 1/2 rates for a while.
also there were "salary freezes"
I got paid like a 1st year associate for 3 years straight even though i worked in "biglaw"
my summer class was 26. was down to 10 after 3 years and not because of natural reasons.
There were "lists" found on copiers with names of the damned. Red lines drawn where everyone "below" was to be fired that friday. Every day we came in wondering if that was the end. the sense of dread was awful.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38148932) |
Date: April 26th, 2019 10:05 PM Author: Primrose crotch pozpig
i was undergrad 09 and law school 12. surreal time.
my senior year of undergrad, i was in a history class taught by a former soviet academic who immigrated after the collapse. on the day the dow dropped 700-some points (i want to say in october of 2008?) he gave a brief speech at the beginning of class i will literally never forget in his thick, husky accent. this is a paraphrase but i swear the last sentence is nearly verbatim
"nobody is going to tell you this, but please listen closely. the world will never be the same for you. the people who society used to rely on to hand opportunities to you will hoard them, so most of you will never get the chance to succeed. ignore the advice your mother or father gives you. instead of having class today, please go home and make a list of three actual skills you already have that you can use to make money. if you can't list three you need to make a plan for how you can learn those three things. i will help you as best i can but my catastrophe was different from what yours will be"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38149000) |
Date: April 26th, 2019 11:42 PM Author: Fragrant elastic band
I remember sitting in retarded 1L conlaw class as lehman collapsed listening to obese boomer professor drone on and thinking WTF am i doing here.
2L fall OCI i remember dried up but most firms came to put on a show and go through the motions of interviewing even though no one actually got hired. it was a weird time. i gave up on ever getting a job and was just going through the motions like many people because i didnt have anything better to do. seriously thought about cutting my losses and dropping out, but had no better plan. at worst by maybe 2010 if things didn't turn around i told myself i would just abscond and move to a different country and teach english or some shit and ditch my loans
because no one got a job through OCI or after everyone including coiffers and law review fags had to slog through the bar and become licensed and HOPE for a job once you were a "real" attorney. most did not make it. i remember law school trying to sign up all suckers for "fellowships" after graduation that paid like $5k for maybe 6+ months of work but literally took you to a day past the "employed at X months from graduation" NALP data point.
the funny thing is those that stuck it out seem to have at least hacked out a shitty or basic existence as attorneys. i would say maybe 50% of my class, maybe 60% if generous, even work in "law" or any related field.
last fall when it hit 10 years i would have these surreal moments where i would think back like "10 years to the day ago, i was doing X" or shit was happening. still unnerving.
obama was a fag and i recall that even amongst libs enthusiasm dried up very quickly. i remember watching his inauguration in LS auditorium which was packed with shitlibs and they went wild for lines like "restore science to its rightful place" and pooped themselves and were giving each other handies in the aisles. 6-12 months later when all those fags were jobless there was no more liberal ignorance/innocence.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38149436) |
Date: April 27th, 2019 12:59 AM Author: Indecent Mind-boggling Hell
A lot of good stuff ITT already, but I'd echo that in some markets the unemployment rate for new college grads was over 50%.
I graduated magna cum laude from an ivy and literally could not get jobs as like receptionists for $12/hour. When i would get to the interview they would tell me they selected my resume out of hundreds of applicants. I think I made it a point to apply to something like 30 jobs a day on craigslist.
I ended up having to hide out in law school, which worked out because I got to re-enter the market as a new grad in better times. But I know that if I graduated now I would've had a much easier time getting into the field I was pursuing - or at least get something to hold me over until I could make more headway. But really, you can only be broke so long before you realize its just not going to happen.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38149655)
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Date: April 27th, 2019 9:54 AM Author: thriller shaky jewess church building
In 2006, I was in a top 5 PhD program and not yet a US citizen. I realized that hiring had already fallen off a cliff, so in 2007 I dropped out with a pity masters and got a shitjob in consulting (benefits were OK but pay was crap). Worked nights doing tutoring 6-9, so I was out of the house from 7 am to 9:30 pm every day. Also taught on weekends. Did LSAT in 2007 and was in a T10 with scholarship when Lehman failed.
Summer 2009 OCI was a horror show. I was top 10% at T10 and got one offer. I was lucky. Some friends with comparable grades got nothing. My associate class was about 1/8 the size of the class two years previous.
I'll always be grateful for my xo bros. Your guidance and support helped me to maek it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38150367) |
Date: April 27th, 2019 5:09 PM Author: Concupiscible Dragon Halford
2011 T10 law grad here, so went into law school prior to collapse, and it started happening 1L year. You need to realize that it was uncharted territory. Dire economic news 24/7 and real sense that we might soon be in a great depression-like breadlines situation. Genuine look of concern on professors' faces was palpable - and it wasn't a concern regarding students getting jobs (which of course wouldn't really worry them), it was a concern over full economic collapse.
2009 OCI was a shit-show. Firms were sending interviewers even though they had no intention of hiring a summer class. I interviewed in the afternoon with one guy whose group laid off 75% of its associates that morning. Fun one.
I wound up with (one) biglaw offer, rode ITE out and then wound up chill in-house. I was extremely lucky. Others with better grades and more personality than me struck out. Most stuck it out in law but had a pretty tortured path - fellowship or clerkship, non-biglaw firm or government for years. From linkedin I see that a surprising number have wound up in pretty good positions by this point but they've taken a tortured path and probably missed out on nearly a million in income.
My path is different than theirs because I somehow clicked with a particular interviewer in a 20-minute screening interview and got passed through. Such is life I guess.
Outside of my law schools peers (who ultimately did pretty well considering), for people with just BAs or who worked blue collar jobs it set up a lost decade. People aged from mid-20s to now mid 30s and lost out on their prime learning/earning years. As others above has said there were simply no jobs to be had, no one was hiring. If you got laid off or graduated into the market, you could expect extended periods of unemployment or extreme extreme underemployment.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4249207&forum_id=2#38151946)
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