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lawfirmaddict presents the second wave of SA stats
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Date: June 3rd, 2006 9:53 PM Author: Carnelian Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse First wave here (with all the caveats and bitter rants about how flawed the methodology is): http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=419935&mc=37&forum_id=2
This includes some new V25 firms, some edited and improved information, and the entire V50 information from the original SA thread. Below is the USNWR ranking, and the % of 2Ls in a class who have V50 jobs, based on the reported information (again, usual caveats, TX and CA are underrepresented, some large firms have not reported, etc.)
1 Yale 71.4% 4 Columbia 65.6% 6 Chicago 63.5% 3 Harvard 59.8% 2 Stanford 47.4% 4 NYU 46.9% 12 Northwestern 41.2% 7 Penn 39.5% 11 Duke 35.2% 13 Cornell 33.7% 8 Michigan 28.1% 14 Georgetown 22.6% 8 Virginia 21.1% 8 Boalt 19.7% 15 UCLA 14.2% 27 Illinois 13.3% 32 Fordham 12.4% 17 Vanderbilt 11.5% 17 USC 11.1% 16 Texas 10.0% 22 Notre Dame 9.7% 22 Boston U 9.5% 27 Boston College 9.1% 19 GWU 8.8% TTT Howard 6.9% 19 WUSTL 6.3% 70 Houston 5.7% 65 Rutgers 5.2% 34 BYU 4.6% 22 Iowa 4.4% 32 Wisconsin 4.1% 37 Indiana 3.9% 58 Brooklyn 3.6% 50 UConn 3.5% 70 Loyola 3.5% 26 Emory 3.4% 53 Cardozo 3.3% 39 Ohio State 3.2% TTT NY Law 2.8% 80 St. Johns 2.8% 80 DePaul 2.7% 51 Case Western 2.7% 43 Arizona 2.6% 27 North Carolina 2.6% 39 Wake Forest 2.6% 43 American 2.6% 27 W&M 2.4% TTT Albany 2.4% 43 Hastings 2.4% TTT Pace 2.3% 27 Washington 2.2% 34 Davis 2.1% 87 Pepperdine 2.1% 60 Missouri 2.0% 43 Tulane 2.0% TTT Hofstra 1.8% 60 Kent 1.8% TTT Syracuse 1.5% 22 W&L 1.5% 19 Minnesota 1.5% 70 Seton Hall 1.4% 80 Buffalo 1.2% FTT Detroit Mercy 1.1% FTT Valparaiso 1.0% 87 Northeastern 0.9% 37 George Mason 0.9% TTT Catholic 0.9% FTT Suffolk 0.9% TTT Cleveland State 0.8% 77 New Mexico 0.8% 60 Pittsburgh 0.8% 60 Villanova 0.8% 57 Utah 0.8% 42 Maryland 0.8% NA Charleston 0.7% 43 SMU 0.7% 43 Alabama 0.6% 70 Kansas 0.6% 60 Tennessee 0.6% 43 Colorado 0.6% 65 Kentucky 0.6% FTT John Marshall 0.6% TTT Akron 0.5% 65 San Diego 0.5% 51 Baylor 0.5% 87 Dickinson 0.5% 65 Loyola CA 0.5% 34 Georgia 0.5% 87 LSU 0.5% FTT Texas Southern 0.4% FTT St. Mary's 0.4% 77 Indianapolis 0.4% FTT Touro 0.3% 58 Temple 0.3% TTT Southwestern 0.3% 70 Denver 0.3% 41 Florida 0.2% FTT South Texas 0.2% FTT Weidner 0.2%
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Date: June 3rd, 2006 9:56 PM Author: pea-brained deer antler lodge JFC. 1.5% of our class is like, less than 2 people. I know we completely suck and all, but I don't think it's quite THAT bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5903482) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:20 PM Author: Carnelian Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse here are the raw numbers if that helps: Harvard 333 Columbia 248 NYU 210 Yale 142 Georgetown 132 Chicago 122 Michigan 103 Northwestern 100 Penn 96 Unknown 87 Stanford 82 Virginia 79 Duke 70 Cornell 65 Fordham 60 Boalt 52 GWU 47 UCLA 45 Texas 44 Boston U 28 Boston College 25 Illinois 25 USC 23 Vanderbilt 23 Brooklyn 18 Houston 18 Notre Dame 17 NY Law 15 Toronto 15 WUSTL 14 Rutgers 13 American 12 Cardozo 12 Howard 11 Wisconsin 11 Hastings 10 Iowa 10 McGill 10 DePaul 9 Indiana 9 Loyola 9 St. Johns 9 Emory 8 BYU 7 Hofstra 7 Ohio State 7 UConn 7 Albany 6 Case Western 6 Kent 6 North Carolina 6 Pace 6 Tulane 6 Pepperdine 5 Seton Hall 5 Suffolk 5 W&M 5 Arizona 4 Davis 4 Minnesota 4 Syracuse 4 Wake Forest 4 Washington 4 Buffalo 3 Catholic 3 Detroit Mercy 3 John Marshall 3 Missouri 3 York 3 British Columbia 2 Cleveland State 2 George Mason 2 Loyola CA 2 Maryland 2 Northeastern 2 Osgoode Hall 2 Pittsburgh 2 San Diego 2 SMU 2 Valparaiso 2 Villanova 2 W&L 2 Akron 1 Alabama 1 Amsterdam 1 Baylor 1 Charleston 1 Colorado 1 Denver 1 Dickinson 1 Florida 1 Georgia 1 Indianapolis 1 Kansas 1 Kentucky 1 Kingston 1 LSU 1 New Mexico 1 South Texas 1 Southwestern 1 St. Mary's 1 Temple 1 Tennessee 1 Texas Southern 1 Touro 1 Utah 1 Weidner 1 Western Ontario 1
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:26 PM Author: white meetinghouse How does 14 from WUSTL = 10.3%?
THey have like 225 people in each class.
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:27 PM Author: henna liquid oxygen He used the WUSTL math system, see USNEWS #19 for more info. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906778) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:28 PM Author: Tantric kitchen sweet tailpipe WUSTL is required to receive an artificial boost in every ranking in which it is included (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906779) |
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Date: June 13th, 2006 1:21 AM Author: Frisky Pearl Theatre Faggot Firefighter 174 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5972328) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:29 PM Author: Carnelian Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Wow, sorry, I accidentally used W&L's class size. I'm editing it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906785) |
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Date: June 13th, 2006 1:20 AM Author: Frisky Pearl Theatre Faggot Firefighter W&L or MN? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5972323) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2006 10:05 PM Author: Dull Really Tough Guy Hey, got an email? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5903531) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:20 PM Author: Carnelian Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse I sure do, but I'm not posting it here. what's yours? this info isn't very helpful until people fill in the gaps. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906747) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 4:31 PM Author: Dull Really Tough Guy aciolli@autoadmit.com (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5907806) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 7:14 PM Author: Carnelian Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse sent. Do you have any additional data hiding around here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5908903) |
Date: June 4th, 2006 1:20 PM Author: Carnelian Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse please fill in some gaps at http://lawfirmaddict.blogspot.com (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906749) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:22 PM Author: henna liquid oxygen Fordham is pretty damn good. 60 students at V25s or at least known for certain is pretty solid placement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906753) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:22 PM Author: Carnelian Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse It's V50s. Old V25 stats were in the first wave of stats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906757) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:23 PM Author: henna liquid oxygen Oh whatever. Same difference, same pay, same shitty hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906759) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:24 PM Author: mustard foreskin cumskin Interesting. Perhaps I have a chance at Stroock after all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906764) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:25 PM Author: Exhilarant partner native This list is seriously hurting for Atlanta and California. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906768) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:25 PM Author: Carnelian Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse if you've got it, I'd love to post it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906770) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:26 PM Author: Poppy Newt nobody cares about fucking atlanta (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906775) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:29 PM Author: Exhilarant partner native nobody cares about NWU. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906786) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:35 PM Author: Poppy Newt apparently, tons of v50 firms do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906805) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:27 PM Author: Poppy Newt wow, look at the NU dominance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906777) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:30 PM Author: Carnelian Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Chicago/NU/Illinois may be overrepresented because most of the Chicago firms are in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906788) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:36 PM Author: Poppy Newt well, if it represents where top law firms are, then it's accurate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5906810) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 2:53 PM Author: Insane Rusted Antidepressant Drug Subject: Holy Shit Check Out Minnesota A consistent Top 20 school (sometimes ranked as high as 17-18) ranks in the mid-to-low 60s in terms of Biglaw placement.
I guess that settles it. |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 2:53 PM Author: shaky state Minnesota firms are not V50s maybe... I have no idea really. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5907114) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 2:54 PM Author: Swashbuckling box office Guess the MINNEAPOLISBIGLAW rumors are true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5907115) |
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Date: June 13th, 2006 1:24 AM Author: Frisky Pearl Theatre Faggot Firefighter i need to get myself to a transfer. w00t (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5972349) |
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Date: June 13th, 2006 12:31 PM Author: Carnelian Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse maybe Minnesota's just stronger in unreported firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5974572) |
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Date: June 5th, 2006 8:35 AM Author: Carnelian Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Monday morning bump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5913255) |
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Date: June 7th, 2006 4:39 PM Author: Carnelian Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse If I get two new offices, I'll do another wave of stats that includes the other updates I've received so far. come on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5932278) |
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Date: June 9th, 2006 6:20 PM Author: Carnelian Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Please? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5948985) |
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Date: June 12th, 2006 10:00 PM Author: Carnelian Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse I used process of elimination to get the DC Paul Weiss SAs. Does this sound right? A class of 5? Too large? Should some be in NY?
http://lawfirmaddict.blogspot.com/2006/02/vault-17-paul-weiss-rifkind-wharton.html
http://www.paulweiss.com/careers/summers/2006class/ |
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Date: June 13th, 2006 1:36 PM Author: aphrodisiac nibblets public bath i'm too lazy to look behind it.
so... are these percentages of the entire classes or only percentages of those who have gone into private practice? |
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Date: June 13th, 2006 2:46 PM Author: vibrant site I'm not sure the percentages are good to go by either way. They assume that all the summers at a firm are from the same class (2L) right? I know at my firm there are a number of 3L pre-clerk summers from a couple schools, so that has to skew any look at summers as a percentage of school's class size. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#5975571) |
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Date: June 13th, 2006 3:00 PM Author: aphrodisiac nibblets public bath oh, that's fine by me. i'm at nu with ~median grades but i interview like a champion. we are a biglaw factory w/fewish clerks, so that doesn't hurt so much.
looks like i can get the mkt rate job if i want it. |
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Date: June 20th, 2006 1:28 PM Author: Carnelian Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse bump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=427427&forum_id=2#6027924) |