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Seattle Pub School rubrics: "How does it feel to be a Mathemetician?" (link)

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source?
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https://www.k12.wa.us/sites/default/files/public/socialstudi...
zombie-like glittery business firm
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"Power and oppression, as defined by ethnic studies, ar...
zombie-like glittery business firm
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The district routinely puts out materials with typos and wei...
Blathering internal respiration
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Indian and Middle Eastern mathematics are fine, too. They...
Odious wagecucks
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Well what *are* the other "legitimate expression[s] of ...
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Lmao
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in many ways, the gradual implosion of seattle is much more ...
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cr it's fucking infuriating
pink theatre double fault
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This reminds me that my ex who was born and raised in Seattl...
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Power and oppression, as defined by ethnic studies, are the...
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So they're big fans of Spengler, so what?
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Notice they put the date in DD.MM.YYYY format, "Europea...
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Also the pdf is printed on 'A4' paper size and all the units...
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Y-M-D is the only cr
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"Released on the Feast of St. Stephen, Anno Domini 2019...
zombie-like glittery business firm
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Holy shit can you imagine the sound of hundreds of heads exp...
Blathering internal respiration
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i regularly abbreviate or type out a.d. regularly in legal w...
heady trust fund fat ankles
  10/01/19
Is there some good scholarship somewhere about the decline a...
pink theatre double fault
  10/01/19
You mean SPS? SPD's problem is mainly city hall.
Blathering internal respiration
  10/01/19
yes
pink theatre double fault
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The author of this blog is a critic of SPS, but would probab...
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This an order of magnitude more repugnant than the normal SJ...
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ok wow so. first, "order of magnitude" is a term i...
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How can these idiots argue that this is good for people of c...
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"It literally keeps them from learning math by teaching...
Blathering internal respiration
  10/01/19
lol
Indecent psychic hairy legs
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That said, none of those cultures were African.
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teaching that point takes maybe 10-30 seconds. teaching h...
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I think the idea, which is not *totally* mistaken, is that s...
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The new anthology, “Building Support for Scholarly Met...
Buck-toothed Address
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didn't the persians do algebra
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Well known oppressive Western mathematicians such as Muhamma...
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It’s literally called “SPS,” what did you ...
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Good ol' Seattle. Remember this gem from 2006? Planning f...
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seattle YES!
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modern Seattle exists because of the aerospace industry, its...
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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:08 PM
Author: zombie-like glittery business firm

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"Who gets to say if an answer is right?"

"What stories are important to your cultural connection to mathematics?"

"Why/how does [sic] data-driven processes prevent liberation?"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913287)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:09 PM
Author: zombie-like glittery business firm

That last one is the real 🚨🚨🚨🤡🤡🤡🚨🚨🚨

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913290)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:10 PM
Author: Electric dull stag film dysfunction

data driven processes reveal niggers are stupid. for genetic reasons. this prevents liberation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913298)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:10 PM
Author: provocative autistic round eye



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913301)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:13 PM
Author: Blathering internal respiration

source?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913312)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:16 PM
Author: zombie-like glittery business firm

https://www.k12.wa.us/sites/default/files/public/socialstudies/pubdocs/Math%20SDS%20ES%20Framework.pdf

the full thing is much MUCH worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913327)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:22 PM
Author: zombie-like glittery business firm

"Power and oppression, as defined by ethnic studies, are the ways in which individuals and groups define mathematical knowledge so as to see 'Western' mathematics as the only legitimate expression of mathematical identity and intelligence."

LMAO. The author of this unintelligible mess has a PhD and civil service protection (guaranteed pension) btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913364)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:24 PM
Author: Blathering internal respiration

The district routinely puts out materials with typos and weird mistakes, in addition to the nonsensical gobbledygook they spit up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913379)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 7:45 PM
Author: Odious wagecucks

Indian and Middle Eastern mathematics are fine, too.

They kicked some ass back in the day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38915334)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 7:58 PM
Author: Comical chestnut ticket booth

Well what *are* the other "legitimate expression[s] of mathematical identity and intelligence"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38915390)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:25 PM
Author: jade cruel-hearted whorehouse

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913386)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:20 PM
Author: Indecent psychic hairy legs

in many ways, the gradual implosion of seattle is much more pathetic than san fran. we can't even try to blame it on hispanic immigration or jews. it's entirely self-inflicted from selfish, brainwashed white people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913354)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:24 PM
Author: pink theatre double fault

cr it's fucking infuriating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913380)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:29 PM
Author: Aromatic son of senegal range

This reminds me that my ex who was born and raised in Seattle got upset at me when I once said I hope my kids are straight and normal so their lives can be easier (it was early 2010's, gay marriage shit was all over the place so it came up somehow), and she blew up at me (she was very chill otherwise) and said she hopes our kids turn out gay

Kind of speaks to the whole city

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913407)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:36 PM
Author: Indecent psychic hairy legs

lmao jesus christ

yeah, "gay" really is the perfect word to describe this place. everything is just so fucking Gay. literal gay people everywhere who go out of their way to act as gay as possible, rampant passive aggressiveness, businesses conspicuously virtue signaling Tolerance and Inclusiveness, entire neighborhoods that are pretty much just explicitly Gay Areas, hordes of weird, androgynous "humans" that you genuinely cannot tell what sex they are, every male talks with faggy uptalk after every sentence, god damn i could make a list several pages long

it's all just so GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913452)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:55 PM
Author: Aromatic son of senegal range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913541)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 2:21 PM
Author: Stubborn Rehab Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913915)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 1:12 PM
Author: Electric dull stag film dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913640)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:23 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Address

Power and oppression, as defined by

ethnic studies, are the ways in which

individuals and groups define

mathematical knowledge so as to see

“Western” mathematics as the only

legitimate expression of mathematical

identity and intelligence. This definition

of legitimacy is then used to

disenfranchise people and

communities of color. This erases the

historical contributions of people and

communities of color.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913369)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:32 PM
Author: Silver stage

So they're big fans of Spengler, so what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913429)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:26 PM
Author: zombie-like glittery business firm

Notice they put the date in DD.MM.YYYY format, "European" style, just to show how progressive they are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913394)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:28 PM
Author: Silver stage

Also the pdf is printed on 'A4' paper size and all the units are metric. fucklibs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913401)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:31 PM
Author: Aromatic son of senegal range

Y-M-D is the only cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913423)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:32 PM
Author: zombie-like glittery business firm

"Released on the Feast of St. Stephen, Anno Domini 2019"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913428)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:34 PM
Author: Blathering internal respiration

Holy shit can you imagine the sound of hundreds of heads exploding at once at SPS headquarters if someone actually did that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913436)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:45 PM
Author: heady trust fund fat ankles

i regularly abbreviate or type out a.d. regularly in legal work, you should too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913488)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:29 PM
Author: pink theatre double fault

Is there some good scholarship somewhere about the decline and fall of Seattle public schools?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913406)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:30 PM
Author: Blathering internal respiration

You mean SPS?

SPD's problem is mainly city hall.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913411)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:30 PM
Author: pink theatre double fault

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913416)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:32 PM
Author: Blathering internal respiration

The author of this blog is a critic of SPS, but would probably be considered shitlib by xoxo standards:

https://saveseattleschools.blogspot.com/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913427)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:33 PM
Author: pink theatre double fault

Yeah I'd prefer something that liberally uses the words nigger and kike but this is a good start

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913435)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:36 PM
Author: Indecent psychic hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913454)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:34 PM
Author: Beta Menage Queen Of The Night

This an order of magnitude more repugnant than the normal SJW idiocy. This is sinister. It is indoctrination in cultural Marxist theology by forces that know damn well what they’re doing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913439)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:36 PM
Author: zombie-like glittery business firm

ok wow so. first, "order of magnitude" is a term inherent in Western mathematics, and

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913453)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:37 PM
Author: Indecent psychic hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913456)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:38 PM
Author: pink theatre double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913460)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 2:22 PM
Author: Deranged Federal Antidepressant Drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913921)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 5:34 PM
Author: Thriller temple genital piercing



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Date: October 1st, 2019 7:47 PM
Author: coiffed abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38915344)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:40 PM
Author: Aromatic son of senegal range

How can these idiots argue that this is good for people of color? It literally keeps them from learning math by teaching them it's just for white people

Like if you straight up asked the author "how does this help black people" wtf would they have to say except more gibberish?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913471)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:46 PM
Author: Blathering internal respiration

"It literally keeps them from learning math by teaching them it's just for white people "

There's a lot of good grounds for criticizing this "Math ethnic studies" rubric, but I don't think that's one of them. I think the point is to teach kids that math isn't just a White or European thing but something developed over time by lots of cultures.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913498)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:49 PM
Author: Indecent psychic hairy legs

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913509)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:50 PM
Author: sienna multi-colored cuckold quadroon

That said, none of those cultures were African.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913515)



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Date: October 2nd, 2019 10:07 AM
Author: lake dopamine telephone

teaching that point takes maybe 10-30 seconds.

teaching how to do geometry proofs or how to construct equations and then solve them is what kids-of-color would benefit from.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38917448)



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Date: October 2nd, 2019 11:23 AM
Author: Blathering internal respiration

I think the idea, which is not *totally* mistaken, is that some kids are less likely to show interest in math if they think it's just a white thing. So by emphasizing mathematical developments by multiple cultures and encouraging students to think of all sorts of people as mathematicians in some ways, it will help a greater swath of students develop hard math skills. That's not going to be some sort of silver bullet, but it actually might plausible help a few students.

The oppressor/liberation stuff is ideological, quasi-religious hogwash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38917766)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:49 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Address

The new anthology, “Building Support for Scholarly Methods in Mathematics,” is the same book that published a chapter by Rochelle Gutierrez, who argued that algebra and geometry can perpetuate white privilege.

As Campus Reform reported last week, Gutierrez worries that “curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913513)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:53 PM
Author: pink theatre double fault

didn't the persians do algebra

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913534)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:59 PM
Author: Silver stage

yes, the term 'algebra' comes from Arabic hence the "al" prefix.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913559)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 12:52 PM
Author: cheese-eating sapphire casino becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913528)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 2:08 PM
Author: mildly autistic cerebral boiling water

Well known oppressive Western mathematicians such as Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913858)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 2:11 PM
Author: mildly autistic cerebral boiling water

It’s literally called “SPS,” what did you expect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38913867)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 7:43 PM
Author: jade cruel-hearted whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38915318)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 7:53 PM
Author: Odious wagecucks

Good ol' Seattle. Remember this gem from 2006?

Planning for the future is racist.

https://web.archive.org/web/20060522101405/https://www.seattleschools.org/area/equityandrace/definitionofrace.xml

Cultural Racism:

Those aspects of society that overtly and covertly attribute value and normality to white people and Whiteness, and devalue, stereotype, and label people of color as “other”, different, less than, or render them invisible. Examples of these norms include defining white skin tones as nude or flesh colored, HAVING A FUTURE TIME ORIENTATION, emphasizing individualism as opposed to a more collective ideology, defining one form of English as standard, and identifying only Whites as great writers or composers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38915368)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 7:55 PM
Author: Fragrant Ratface Depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38915381)



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Date: October 1st, 2019 8:07 PM
Author: Indecent psychic hairy legs

seattle YES!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38915423)



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Date: October 2nd, 2019 1:40 AM
Author: Stubborn Rehab Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38916811)



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Date: October 2nd, 2019 1:31 AM
Author: Aromatic son of senegal range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38916794)



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Date: October 2nd, 2019 9:47 AM
Author: lake dopamine telephone

modern Seattle exists because of the aerospace industry, its massive international trade depot, and software. mostly likely, those industries use a little real math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38917372)



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Date: October 2nd, 2019 9:56 AM
Author: pink theatre double fault

(bigot)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38917413)



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Date: October 2nd, 2019 9:49 AM
Author: Puce gaping main people

Didn't the Simpsons do a whole parody episode on this years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64PKoAiWhjE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38917380)



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Date: October 2nd, 2019 11:27 AM
Author: Blathering internal respiration

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38917793)



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Date: October 2nd, 2019 11:34 AM
Author: Odious wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38917818)



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Date: October 7th, 2019 8:47 PM
Author: bright beady-eyed fanboi parlour

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38944485)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 3:59 PM
Author: Aromatic son of senegal range

I'm still fucking pissed about this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38958559)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 4:08 PM
Author: Indecent psychic hairy legs

https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/pro-approve-referendum-88-for-fairness-and-opportunity-for-all/#comments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38958611)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 4:12 PM
Author: Aromatic son of senegal range

Idk what this is but I'm guessing it's shitlib dreck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38958630)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 4:24 PM
Author: spruce new version shrine

It’s amazing that liberals refer you Farenheit 451 or 1984 and un ironically apply the imposed ignorance in those stories to conservatives. We’re pretty close to dystopia, and liberals are to blame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4354802&forum_id=2#38958697)