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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:21 PM Author: indigo property https://smhttp-ssl-58547.nexcesscdn.net/nycss/images/uploads/pubs/Fare_Evasion_FINAL_10_6_17_smaller.pdf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382073) |
Date: January 5th, 2020 3:23 PM Author: Mint Puppy Skinny Woman accept | black | criminality (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382085) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:25 PM Author: indigo property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382097) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:29 PM Author: Boyish filthpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382120) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 4:16 PM Author: Anal bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382374) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 11:32 AM Author: Emerald nowag address (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39386488) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:24 PM Author: Fishy cracking gaping lol asians (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382091) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:27 PM Author: indigo property 0% lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382110) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 8:49 AM Author: appetizing police squad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39385794) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:31 PM Author: Ocher drunken multi-billionaire "why is fare evasion even a crime?!?!"
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:33 PM Author: indigo property I like the quote from the guy who thinks the fare is $2.50 instead of $2.75 because he's never actually paid it Never mind the fee increased |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:43 PM Author: cerise hideous rigor abode He still sounds like he's never paid it: In June of 2014,* Jose O., 54, had just finished his shift at a restaurant in lower Manhattan and was walking to catch the subway back to his home in Queens. As he approached the row of turnstiles at the station, he realized he didn’t have enough money to pay for a MetroCard. He went to speak with the MTA employee in the ticket booth nearby to tell her his situation. “The woman in the booth told me that the only person who could let me pass was the police.” He spent the next twenty minutes looking for a police officer who could help him get home. He didn’t want to jump the turnstile because he had been forced to do that before, “a long time ago,” he says, and got stuck with a $100 summons. He managed to find a way to pay for the summons, but it was no easy task while keeping up on his rent and other bills. “$100? If had that kind of money I would have bought a weekly MetroCard," said Jose. Jose couldn’t find a police officer, and the woman in the booth said she couldn’t help him, so he jumped the turnstile. “It was getting late, I was desperate to go home,” said Jose. “That’s why I did it, I didn’t do it just because I wanted to.” He barely made it 25 feet before a police officer yelled from down a long hallway for Jose to stop. Jose tried to explain to the officer that he just needed to get home and had been looking for the police to help him. But the officer just asked him for his ID and told Jose that he had broken the law and was under arrest. “You will take me to jail because I don’t have $2.50?” Jose asked the officer “What was I supposed to do? Stay here in Manhattan?” |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:47 PM Author: indigo property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382212) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 9:17 AM Author: ungodly stage Fuck anyone who doesn’t have sympathy for this dude and his situation.
I have no view on the broader report. Is there some means by which poor New Yorkers can get free or reduced subway fare? Seems like there should be.
As to racial disparities, it seems like a pretty easy situation to study/remedy. Just put a camera on the turnstiles at a scientifically significant number of stations and see what it shows. It seems plausible to me that there is an actual unjust disparity. But also plausible the disparate numbers are just due to there being more black fare jumpers — it’s interesting that they focus on Brooklyn where “poor” whites probably include a lot of ortho Jews, etc. |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 11:35 AM Author: Emerald nowag address "It seems plausible to me that there is an actual unjust disparity. But also plausible the disparate numbers are just due to there being more black fare jumpers."
While I appreciate your fair and moderate take here, this is laughably naive |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 10:33 PM Author: Tan Institution "Fuck anyone who doesn’t have sympathy for this dude and his situation."
fuck you, faggot. do you think he just suddenly landed in his situation the moment he walked into the subway station? he had a multitude of decision points that day, and throughout his entire life, where he could've and should've acted in a way that would've avoided "having to" jump that turnstile. the guy is a worthless piece of shit, and he deserves to be prosecuted without sympathy. |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:34 PM Author: angry offensive corner why do libs think this kind of stuff makes nigs somehow more sympathetic lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382144) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:39 PM Author: cerise hideous rigor abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382168) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:44 PM Author: wine marketing idea immigrant They can't imagine someone looking at these stats and seeing anything other than SYSTEMIC RACISM (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382199) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 4:07 PM Author: Mahogany effete university yarmulke To be fair, I have multiple white friends who have jumped turnstiles (they were rushing to make a train, or didn't have a metrocard, or whatever), and caught, and then just told to go back out, buy a metrocard, and try again. Not one was arrested. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382327) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 4:08 PM Author: Ocher drunken multi-billionaire lmfao. i call 100% bullshit. either youre lying or your "white friends" are libs who are lying to youu (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382337) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 4:09 PM Author: Mahogany effete university yarmulke Free to make such a call, but it happened. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382340) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 4:10 PM Author: indigo property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382342) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 4:10 PM Author: Mahogany effete university yarmulke In at least one instance I saw it firsthand. Bunch of us were heading home, we all swiped in, his card wasn't working, the train was coming in, and he jumped the turnstile. A cop came over and just told him to go back out and pay the fare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382345) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 4:15 PM Author: cerise hideous rigor abode They also probably don't do it constantly and had a reasonable explanation. The guy quoted in this article, presumably the most upstanding black guy they could find, admits to having done it before, had $100 to pay the court, has a job, knows he needs to get home from that job, makes it all the way to the turnstile past crowds of people without asking anyone for $2.75, does it again and gets caught, and didn't have a plausible story to tell the cop. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382371) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 12:50 AM Author: plum pontificating state trump supporter because they know your friends would comply. can't always make that inference about other people they catch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39385083) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 10:07 AM Author: Adventurous Hunting Ground This happens with black people too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39386048) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:45 PM Author: pearl charismatic space sandwich And they always take the angle that it must be due to racism, without giving police credit for their lack of racism toward Asians lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382204) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:50 PM Author: indigo property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382232) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:44 PM Author: seedy mauve dilemma sweet tailpipe lol at “overpolicing” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382200) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:46 PM Author: Hateful bat shit crazy knife hell Odd that they didn't ask what % of fare evaders are black or maybe I missed it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382209) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:52 PM Author: Silver Hairy Legs Tanning Salon LMAO @ "the crime of being short" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382240) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:55 PM Author: indigo property Johnsmeyer raises fist in solidarity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382253) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 4:15 PM Author: impressive base telephone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382366) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 11:32 AM Author: Tripping Walnut Juggernaut still can't see it over the crowd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39386485) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 10:05 PM Author: laughsome chapel Underrated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39390065) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 11:36 AM Author: Emerald nowag address (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39386505) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:53 PM Author: Chest-beating irradiated locus Dat MODEL MINORITY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382243) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 4:02 PM Author: unhinged degenerate Yet there are still anti-AZN plasters all over this board. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382297) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 3:59 PM Author: Abusive overrated kitty cat Blacks make up less than one-third of poor adults in Brooklyn but Almost two-thirds of those arrested for fare evasion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382280) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 12:43 AM Author: indigo property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39385058) |
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Date: January 5th, 2020 4:27 PM Author: Mind-boggling roast beef circlehead whites do get breaks where others might not. that doesn't change the fact that nigs are highly prone to criminal behavior. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39382469) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 8:48 AM Author: Hyperventilating talking box office people who are hurt I wonder if the way you respond to a police officer has any impact on whether he decides to just give you a warning? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39385793) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 9:02 AM Author: Sticky coral pocket flask I'd imagine the times whites get breaks are probably at least even with the amount of blacks who either (a) do it in a large group and therefore some aren't caught or (b) run away and get away with it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39385816) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 11:28 AM Author: Chest-beating irradiated locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39386462) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 12:42 AM Author: Abusive overrated kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39385051) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 8:53 AM Author: swashbuckling place of business poors naturally risk arrest over $3 than non-poors and most blacks in nyc are poor.
but the main issue is the informal warning. would need evidence of people who say "i'm sorry, my bad i missed work this week or please i promise i won't do it again" versus "fuck you, damn pig" or just flat out trying to run away. i'm guessing these stats WON'T surprise you either. |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 10:17 AM Author: provocative submissive dragon jap 87% of those arrested are male, but not once is sexism brought up as a causal factor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39386088) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 10:06 PM Author: laughsome chapel Libs think that blacks commit more crime because of racism but men commit more crime because they are biologically inclined to criminality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39390074) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 10:17 AM Author: low-t impertinent library prole what about the disparity between men and women?
why are women getting so many breaks? |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 10:25 AM Author: Abusive overrated kitty cat Have libs ever acknowledged that men are more likely to commit crime? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39386122) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 10:27 AM Author: hairraiser personal credit line resort They'll admit that, but when you try to break it down further they freak out on you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39386134) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 10:28 AM Author: low-t impertinent library prole all the time especially with sexual assault
libs don't really care about who commits what. they will focus on male crime because women vote lib. they DON'T focus on black crime because blacks vote lib
i'm honestly surprised they haven't carved out "hate crimes" as something where a former felon can't earn back the right to vote |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 10:08 PM Author: laughsome chapel Men commit the same amount of crime as women. The disproportionate rate at which men are criminalized is due to systematic and institutional misandry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39390081) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 11:36 AM Author: Tripping Walnut Juggernaut this data shows ARRESTS. and breaks down the difference between ARRESTS, the $100 ticket, and letting the fare jumper go with a warning. it quite clearly states that ARRESTS are the result of fare jumpers being caught with outstanding warrants for other criminal behavior, or at minimum recidivist fare jumping.
this isn't about people being arrested for fare jumping, it's about people with other criminal warrants being arrested after police see them fare jumping.
but no, it's "people just trying to get to their job to get out of poverty." |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 12:41 PM Author: indigo property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4415480&forum_id=2#39386866) |
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Date: January 6th, 2020 11:00 PM Author: Excitant Lodge Party Of The First Part this is the same thing with people being in prison "for" marijuana.
they only look at what directly preceded landing in jail, but never the picture as a whole. |
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