Millennials, the Dying Children
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Date: January 20th, 2020 5:08 PM Author: 180 pisswyrm
I am one of the oldest millennials. Something terrifying is happening to us. We are dying while we are still children. We men are going bald, and the ladies are starting to sag. We have graying hair. Our eyes crinkle when we smile. We have unsightly fat deposits that are going nowhere. Our joints pop in the morning. We get injured by turning around too fast. Our vision is fading. Our reflexes are slowing. Many of us know someone our age who has died of cancer, a heart attack, or some other old-age disease that occasionally strikes the middle-aged.
And we're still children.
The oldest of us are rapidly closing in on 40. We are the least married, least fecund generation in history. Really, only 30% of people under 40 are married! Big-brained thinkers blame economic conditions, largely because big-brained thinkers go through years of training to ensure they don't see what is right in front of their faces. We started coming of age in 2003, and economic conditions were nowhere close to as bad as the 1930s, 40s, or 70s, when people had little trouble marrying and procreating. Yet here we are, aging out of our ability to enjoy childhood, feeling death creep up on us. The video games have grown boring. The TV marathons are suffocating. The candy tastes like ashes in our mouths. We're committing suicide and consuming antidepressants at record rates. We try to accumulate even more, and it fails to make us happy. We don't know why, and we don't know how we got here.
Well, I'll tell you.
My entire life, the only message I got from school, or church, college, and the media was that every decision I made, from what degree to pursue, to where I lived, to whether to marry, was with the goal of having a maximally pleasurable life. True, as someone raised in a conservative church, I was warned against fornication and substance abuse, but these were framed in terms of interfering with the good life. In the 1990s, there was no difference between Christians and non-Christians in that general outlook. Both Christian and non-Christians were equally horrified at the notion that a bright young woman might not end up "maximizing her potential," which meant putting 40 hours a week into a cubicle. Both warned her against getting married too young, because marriage could cut short a promising career. Evangelicals, for their part, indulged in a pious fiction that the unmarried 25-year-olds in the church were all virgins, but still, everyone agreed that the proper way to treat the world is as your playground.
Any kind of social responsibility or context to our choice-making was completely absent from what our boomer elders told us. What is the social purpose of marriage? Conservative boomers couldn't say. They appealed to "tradition" without understanding why it existed, to a Biblical literalism that was as mindless as it was quaint, in a world where their own self-indulgent concept of marriage had led to record-smashing divorce rates in the 1970s and 80s, and my generation growing up with every weekend alternating between parents. The boomer had already set up the foundation of marriage as an exercise in self-indulgence; gay marriage came as the consequence. If marriage has a social purpose, to channel and direct human sexuality in a way that promotes social cohesion and provides for a man's progeny, then gay marriage is nonsense. It's an absurdity. But if it's just to "be happy with the person you love?" Then why not?
Similarly, we weren't told that the purpose of a job is to provide for your family. If that's the point of working, then any kind of moral imperative to put women in the workplace evaporates. Why would they want to be there? Find me a woman who dreams of providing a new car for her husband, or who feels any satisfaction at knowing that her money will be well-spent by her husband for the children, or who feels that the ability to take the husband and the kids to the beach for a weekend is worth that drudgery in the office. We were told work would be "fulfilling," that it would be yet another endless source of amusement for us. Turns out that work sucks. Nobody can really explain why Grandpa was willing to drive from town to town sell vacuum cleaners, because delivering the same pitch for the thousandth time isn't fulfilling at all (none of us ever thought to ask grandma whether she envied grandpa's long days on the road when she was at home with the kids). Millennials are bored and angry in the workplace. We were told fulfillment would be here. Instead, it's...work. And since we don't have families, it has no purpose.
It's sad to watch my generation collapse into nihilism and fear as our bodies begin the process of dying. The men become bugmen, living to consume, filling shelf after shelf with toys their adult brains can't find amusement in, because they know of nothing else to do. The women are in a panic, desperately trying to hold onto their evaporating youth, trying to prove to themselves that a woman can be just as sexy and alluring at 35 as she could at 23. There's a lot of rage at the Boomers, but it's aimless and uninformed. Mostly, people are mad that they "crashed the economy" or "destroyed the climate," as though the double-digit inflation and choking smog of 1978 were so much better.
No, what the Boomers did to us was what their parents did to them. They ruined us by trying to give us the life they never had. Our grandparents grew up in the Depression, and overindulged their children with toys and attention to the point the boomers failed to develop any real sense of self-awareness. And what, you may ask, did the Boomers lack? The Boomers had their idyllic teenage years cut short. WW2 & Silents still ran the world, and made our parents put on a tie, go to work, and serve The Man before they were ready to stop playing. Your average Boomer male looks back at the summer of '69 wistfully, wishing it could have gone on forever, slightly resentful that just a few years later, he was driving a shitty Toyota, getting nagged by his wife, and listening to a baby scream. The Boomer female thinks that if it wasn't for that marriage and those babies she had by the time she was 26, she would have been an editor of a fashion magazine. She never would have gotten that baby belly. She would have been young and sexy forever.
Boomers have a perpetual teenage mentality that their parents never understood, and they raised us to be the eternal teenagers they didn't get to be. When you're 17, the idea of just buying cool stuff, having consequence-free sex, and binge-consuming media for the rest of your life sounds fantastic. You do not understand that when you are 40, you will not want that any more. There are tons of guys my age and younger, who wear Star Wars T-shirts, collect Marvel Funko Pops, and have gotten vasectomies, and they have no idea why they're so miserable. There are women my age who just broke up with another live-in boyfriend of three years and have no children. So here we are, and we're falling apart. Our parents instilled in us a totalizing selfishness that they never got to indulge, assuring us that marriage and family "would just come" when "the time is right." As far as they were concerned, that's just what happens. Except it "just happened" to them because of all the social capital of previous generations that was still there for them, which they razed to the ground. Now my generation is absolutely miserable, because we're reaching that age where your brain shifts modes from "consume and copulate" to "prepare your offspring for adulthood," and we don't understand that's what is actually happening. Women of my generation have been told their entire lives that loneliness is a psychological disorder, that children are parasites, and that exhausting yourself for 40 hours a week at work is the meaning of life. It turns out that continuing to live as though you were a teenager does not in fact bequeath eternal youth. "Age is just a number" is the most insidious of all Boomer proverbs.
For my generation, there is not really a path back out. All the social institutions of this country have been detonated in the quest for money and self, or via the hysterical condemnation of every kind of organic social relation as "sexist" or "racist." In the cities, nobody knows anybody. Professional associations and social clubs are borderline nonexistent. Nobody knows or cares about anyone, and nobody knows how to start. It's so sick and twisted that my generation uses the word "community" to refer to people who buy the same consumer products, like going to see a movie means you're part of the "Star Wars community." Even churches have been consolidated into massive theme parks where anonymous masses of people go to be entertained; centuries-old congregations have shuttered as the people moved to the megaplex. Brain-dead "conservative" pundits can only worry our declining birth rate in terms of funding entitlements or GDP; hardly anyone will come right out and say a society with low fertility is fundamentally sick and disordered.
Millennials need to accept that the values inculcated in us were a load of horse crap. I don't see that happening, as we're mostly are upset that we can't live the idyllic lives of self-indulgence the Boomers promised us. Even suggesting that divorce should be harder, marriage should be younger, and women were built to be mothers, not office drones, causes the average Millennial to dissolve into hysterical outrage. We're the generation that thinks having a country is racist and the most important thing about space exploration is making sure hijab-clad Muslimas are a part of it. So we're probably not going to snap out of it. We'll be buried in Batman coffins, surrounded by our Xbox games. Maybe whoever buries us will finally discard the morality of the Boomers.
https://lexic.co/barfblog/millennials-dying-children
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4425944&forum_id=2#39461225) |
Date: January 20th, 2020 5:57 PM Author: disgusting striped hyena kitty
"We're the generation that thinks having a country is racist and the most important thing about space exploration is making sure hijab-clad Muslimas are a part of it."
2014: http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2596961&mc=73&forum_id=2
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4425944&forum_id=2#39461422) |
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Date: January 20th, 2020 11:44 PM Author: Demanding public bath
cruel parodic simulation of "courtship" and trying to pretend that the whole thing is something other than a satanic farce designed to humiliate and degrade you.
cruel parodic simulation of "courtship" and trying to pretend that the whole thing is something other than a satanic farce designed to humiliate and degrade you.
cruel parodic simulation of "courtship" and trying to pretend that the whole thing is something other than a satanic farce designed to humiliate and degrade you.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4425944&forum_id=2#39463250)
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Date: January 20th, 2020 6:11 PM Author: Supple Fat Ankles Heaven
ugh, yawn
do people even read this crap before they poa
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4425944&forum_id=2#39461462) |
Date: January 20th, 2020 7:18 PM Author: Cheese-eating den party of the first part
Haha wow holy shit
But are you sure it was "The Boomers" who pushed us to nihilistic materialism, consumption, and hedonism, friend?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4425944&forum_id=2#39461861) |
Date: January 20th, 2020 8:19 PM Author: Demanding public bath
180
To live is to die
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4425944&forum_id=2#39462190) |
Date: January 20th, 2020 9:15 PM Author: angry associate multi-billionaire
Yeah thank god we aren't having kids so the pointless cycle of human existence can begin to die out
There's no grand purpose in manufacturing offspring, it's just your final biologically programmed "distraction". Perpetuating the "generation did XYZ" myth just skirts around the harsh reality that the level of technology (and thus capability for idleness) combined with lack of religion our society has achieved means our purposelessness is exposed for what it is. There's no "fixing" this because it was an inevitable outcome we've been moving towards for hundreds of years, not some generational quirk.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4425944&forum_id=2#39462460) |
Date: January 20th, 2020 9:56 PM Author: misunderstood fighting pocket flask hall
barf blog is right
someone need to tell this dood that upper 30s is exactly when men and women start looking like shit, it's not some new shitlennial thing
>Similarly, we weren't told that the purpose of a job is to provide for your family. If that's the point of working, then any kind of moral imperative to put women in the workplace evaporates.
How does he arrive at this? There's copious evidence that it's NECESSARY for both parents to be in the workplace nowadays to provide for their kids.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4425944&forum_id=2#39462753) |
Date: January 21st, 2020 8:42 AM Author: wonderful menage
LOL at XO groupthink. Yes, "work" is definitely the same thing that it was in 1940 and 1970, such that the suitability of women to do it is no different than it was then. Also domestic labor is unchanged, despite an entirely different set of tools/capabilities, and a seemingly inexhaustible supply of low skilled laborers who magically started appearing in the country in the late 60s and really took off in the late 80s, and these low skilled workers will accept below market cash payments to do the domestic labor.
Sorry conservatards, but it's still "diversity" + absurd levels of inequality that are causing the problems. Just on the basis of housing this is aggressively obvious. Every house near every population center/location where the vast majority of jobs for college educated people under 40 occur is 2x what it cost a decade ago. That's in a very fundamental way the only reason that things suck so much. It's lack of social cohesion due to rapid demographic changes (i.e. more shitty neighborhoods and fewer good ones) and drastic inequality full stop. Gee whiz how come we don't all go to Elk's Lodges like our grandparents who were so much better than we are. LOL at any of my grandparents not wanting to kill themselves and hole up in their houses away from the world after a trip to the grocery store where 2/3rds of the people in their old neighborhood don't speak English, which is hilarious, given that my great grandparents didn't speak English when they got here either, and most of them never learned.
And worst of all, I can't wait until this guy sees what kinds of wives and mothers these millennial women will be. Please forward him some "mental labor" screeds from Gen X shrews. As if Gen X wasn't doing all of this and proud of it in the 90s. What was the point of Friends and Seinfeld, if not espousing the Gen X ideology that fritering away one's 20s in NYC being self-absorbed was the highest and best use of their time. But if you think extended adolescence is gross, wait until you see what it looks like when these same self-absorded dickheads start doing permanent damage to small children.
Not to mention how idiotic it is to equate climate change with smog in the 70s.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4425944&forum_id=2#39464346) |
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Date: January 21st, 2020 6:43 PM Author: wonderful menage
1) You can't make an argument that convinces anyone that women shouldn't work in 2020 unless you address the fact that we transitioned the entirety of the West as an economic bloc from a manufacturing based economy to a services based and finance intensive economy and are at the beginning of transitioning again to a tech automation based economy. You have to show that regardless of the fact that there is less labor involving physical strength required in developed economies and more that requires advanced education, the highest and best use of women is raising children and only that. I.e. even if it hurts the economies of whichever developed nations/economies that might choose to prohibit women from working, the corresponding benefit to children and society is greater because _____.
2) open borders is a Koch brothers policy. Corporate cons love illegal immigration more than anyone else and always will.
3) the point is that he seems to underestimate the benefit to society of not having self-absorbed, shitty people feeling socially obligated to become parents. We should make more people (including poorer and browner people) feel the same way. 7+ billion people is plenty of people for this planet, likely about 2x more than is ideal once the rest of the planet has more developed economies. We shouldn't be racing to 10B as quickly as possible, we should be focusing on how to lower the birth rates in Africa and the Middle East.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4425944&forum_id=2#39467222) |
Date: January 21st, 2020 11:08 AM Author: provocative sapphire background story
"My entire life, the only message I got from school, or church, college, and the media was that every decision I made, from what degree to pursue, to where I lived, to whether to marry, was with the goal of having a maximally pleasurable life."
If his/her church was telling this person to MAXIMIZE pleasure-what kind of CHURCH was it?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4425944&forum_id=2#39464949) |
Date: January 21st, 2020 1:23 PM Author: Insane bat shit crazy regret gaming laptop
Elder Millennial here. Writer deserves the misery he writes about. He was unable to step outside the cultural and generational Zeitgeist and think for himself. The writer blames his parents and society for his indulgent and pathetic lifestyle never stopping once to exmaine his own failures to question those precepts he grew up with.
Instead of developing his own sense of values and virtue, he blindly followed the lies told to him. Much of this examination of society and self should have started in the individual's early teens and solidified by the individuals mid to late 20s. There are plenty of other big questions in life but this type of self examination helps one steer clear of the worst app sluts, crushing jobs, and whatever miserable life choices this writer refers to.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4425944&forum_id=2#39465627) |
Date: January 21st, 2020 3:14 PM Author: Curious soggy kitchen
Poaster above:
"this entire article is basically the 30+ year old version of the generic XO/4chan take on life. it's as boilerplate as you can get in that line of writing and makes no actual point other than some freudian "boomers projecting lost adolescence" nonsense and offers no suggestions beyond "welp too late maybe next generation ???". it's a prime example of post-alt right blog fluff targeted at 30something bald yuppie incels"
Agreed. It's the same tiresome diatribe with no data or deep analysis. Are boomers (the ones who long for the summer of '69) to blame for many the same issues and feelings facing young people in Japan? Are feminazis to blame for declining fertility rates virtually everywhere, including conservative cultures and places where feminism has no influence?
You can't explain complex issues and social phenomena with some stream of verbal diarrhea that reads like a B- undergrad psych paper.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4425944&forum_id=2#39466209) |
Date: February 8th, 2023 9:59 PM Author: poppy ceo
While it doesn’t invalidate the whole essay, this is complete horseshit that calls the author’s understanding of past generations into question:
“ what the Boomers did to us was what their parents did to them. They ruined us by trying to give us the life they never had. Our grandparents grew up in the Depression, and overindulged their children with toys and attention to the point the boomers failed to develop any real sense of self-awareness”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4425944&forum_id=2#45907859) |
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Date: February 9th, 2023 12:28 AM Author: aromatic ultramarine gaping
Greatest Gen parents were beating their boomer kids when they weren’t ignoring them, and in most cases left them 0 inheritance. (Hence every boomer’s obsessive belief they are 100% self-made and you should be too, all you need is a college education and a firm handshake.)
This caricature of “overindulging” is absolutely the opposite of what happened.
But the outcome as far how boomers raised their kids was the same, so ultimately it’s nbd as far as the article’s overall truth.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4425944&forum_id=2#45908590) |
Date: February 10th, 2023 11:50 AM Author: Chrome National Security Agency Resort
"We're the generation that thinks having a country is racist and the most important thing about space exploration is making sure hijab-clad Muslimas are a part of it."
This is my favorite part of conservative "ideology." They base their entire worldview around blatant fabrications.
It's amazing how stupid you people are.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4425944&forum_id=2#45914893) |
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