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PSA: 1 in 1000 black men and boys will be killed by police during their lives

Police: Sixth-leading cause of death for young black men Da...
excitant purple ticket booth depressive
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excitant purple ticket booth depressive
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Is this too high, too low, or the right number?
useless boyish laser beams
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How many out of 1000 will commit a violent crime in their li...
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180 indirect expression nursing home
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If the numbers were flipped, that many white men getting kil...
turquoise codepig
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thats ridiculous
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Never underestimate the depths of shitlib depravity
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gold angry business firm
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Yeah libs have never described having fewer white ppl around...
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what are causes 1-5? how many are murdered by other black...
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https://news.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/police-six...
excitant purple ticket booth depressive
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ah for fuck's sake. what is the age range here? it is not y...
canary mexican state
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Of course, what articles like this miss, is if you adjust fo...
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falling to 7th leading cause in 2020 due to covid 19
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Fishy adulterous circlehead reading party
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hairless pungent rehab really tough guy
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Date: June 1st, 2020 11:43 AM
Author: excitant purple ticket booth depressive

Police: Sixth-leading cause of death for young black men

Date

August 5, 2019

Contact: Morgan Sherburne morganls@umich.edu

ANN ARBOR—For young men of color in the United States, police use-of-force is among the leading causes of death, according to a study from the University of Michigan, Rutgers University and Washington University.

Police use-of-force—which includes asphyxiation, beating, a chemical agent, a medical emergency, a Taser, or a gunshot—trails accidental death, suicide, other homicides, heart disease and cancer as a leading cause of death for young black men, who have the highest risk of being killed by police.

About 100 in 100,000 black men and boys will be killed by police during their lives, while 39 white men and boys per 100,000 are killed by police. This means black men are about 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white men.

“It’s a striking number,” said study co-author Michael Esposito, a postdoctoral researcher in the Survey Research Center at the U-M Institute for Social Research. “There have been arguments about how widespread of a problem this is. We didn’t have a good estimate about whether it’s a few cases that received a lot of media attention.

“This study shows us that police killings are deeply systematic, with race, gender and age patterning this excess cause of death.”

The study uses data from a database called Fatal Encounters, a journalist-led effort to document deaths involving police. Deaths are gathered and categorized using news reports and public records. The researchers focused on deaths that involved police use-of-force but did not consider other causes of death, such as vehicular collision, suicide, overdose or a fall.

Image credit: Chloe Oliva

“What motivated this study was a big gap in what was available in terms of basic estimates of how likely people are to be killed by police,” said lead author Frank Edwards, assistant professor at Rutgers’ School of Criminal Justice.

The Bureau of Justice Statistics keeps a database on arrest-related deaths, but the database relies on self-reported incidents from police departments, Edwards says.

Another governmental database, the National Vital Statistics Report, archived by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, tallies deaths related to legal intervention, but researchers have found that cases in which police are responsible for deaths are undercounted by about 50%.

The study also shows that other minority groups are at high risk for death by police use-of-force—in particular, American Indian/Alaska Native (55 per 100,000) and Latino (53 per 100,000) men and boys.

Women are about 20 times less likely to be killed by police, according to the research. Latina and Asian/Pacific Islander women are less likely than white women to be killed by police, but black women and American Indian/Alaska Native women face a higher risk. In fact, American Indian and Alaska Native women are up to twice as likely to be killed by police than white women.

“Because a lot of our talk about this in public spaces is focused on black men, we sometimes lose sight of other groups with elevated risk,” U-M’s Esposito said. “Conversations around who’s most at risk have to incorporate the diversity and intersectionality highlighted in this study, fleshing out our narratives of why individuals with particular social traits have more or less exposure to police violence.”

For the study, the researchers did not include deaths that occurred because of car chases or accidents. Had they, risk of death for all groups of women would have doubled.

“I think that our results really underscore that police killings are a lot more common than we might have imagined,” said study co-author Hedwig Lee, professor of sociology at Washington University in St. Louis. “Our work also provides more evidence that people of color, particularly African American men and women, but also American/Indian and Alaska Native women are at risk.”

Now that these risks have been documented, researchers’ next task is to get a better understanding of what drives these patterns, Lee says.

More information:

Study (PDF): Risk of being killed by police use of force in the United States by age, race–ethnicity, and sex



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40318531)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 11:45 AM
Author: jade razzle-dazzle space

obey the law, respect authority, don't mouth off to cops with guns

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40318534)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 11:47 AM
Author: turquoise codepig

Maybe they shouldn't commit dangerous crimes and attack people with weapons so much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40318543)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:01 PM
Author: Frisky affirmative action



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:58 PM
Author: Poppy trailer park



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:58 PM
Author: cordovan flatulent heaven sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40323383)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 7:12 PM
Author: outnumbered forum



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Date: June 1st, 2020 7:13 PM
Author: topaz resort keepsake machete



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Date: June 1st, 2020 7:15 PM
Author: Floppy windowlicker



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Date: June 1st, 2020 5:58 PM
Author: excitant purple ticket booth depressive



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Date: June 1st, 2020 5:59 PM
Author: useless boyish laser beams

Is this too high, too low, or the right number?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40322908)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:01 PM
Author: Lemon disgusting faggot firefighter puppy

How many out of 1000 will commit a violent crime in their lifetime?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40322918)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:01 PM
Author: Frisky affirmative action



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:58 PM
Author: Poppy trailer park



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:59 PM
Author: cordovan flatulent heaven sneaky criminal



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:01 PM
Author: Mahogany apoplectic hospital ladyboy

It’s because blacks have more police interactions per capita than whites. It’s easy to read “racism” into stats like these if you’re dumb (which the public is).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40322924)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:58 PM
Author: Poppy trailer park



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:02 PM
Author: Frisky affirmative action

“Women are about 20 times less likely to be killed by police”

Sounds like systemic sexism to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40322928)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:57 PM
Author: diverse pit

MALE LIVES MATTER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40323368)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:18 PM
Author: 180 indirect expression nursing home

Rather funny the 39 white men per 100k killed by the police is not framed as a problem. It's only a problem more black men are killed per capita.

One would think the reasonable concern is why the police are killing so many men, but apparently that's not the real injustice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40323042)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:55 PM
Author: turquoise codepig

If the numbers were flipped, that many white men getting killed by police would be described as a GOOD thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40323350)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:57 PM
Author: bright vivacious step-uncle's house mad-dog skullcap

thats ridiculous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40323364)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:58 PM
Author: multi-colored twinkling uncleanness brunch

Never underestimate the depths of shitlib depravity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40323384)



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Date: June 2nd, 2020 5:25 AM
Author: gold angry business firm



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Date: June 2nd, 2020 12:56 AM
Author: Mahogany apoplectic hospital ladyboy

Yeah libs have never described having fewer white ppl around as being good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40326273)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:58 PM
Author: burgundy mind-boggling indian lodge hunting ground

what are causes 1-5?

how many are murdered by other black men?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40323377)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 7:01 PM
Author: excitant purple ticket booth depressive

https://news.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/police-sixth-leading-cause-of-death-for-young-black-men.png

Other homicides are #3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40323419)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 7:11 PM
Author: canary mexican state

ah for fuck's sake. what is the age range here?

it is not young men and boys, but i am betting goes up to 39 or higher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40323519)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 6:59 PM
Author: Talented Kitty Cat Karate

Of course, what articles like this miss, is if you adjust for commission of violent crimes (no, not drug crimes), it is not at all disproportionate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40323389)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 7:09 PM
Author: canary mexican state

falling to 7th leading cause in 2020 due to covid 19

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40323493)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 7:12 PM
Author: doobsian address boistinker

more like moving to #2 as the top 5 are collapsed into covid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40323526)



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Date: June 2nd, 2020 12:53 AM
Author: canary mexican state



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Date: June 1st, 2020 7:15 PM
Author: Fishy adulterous circlehead reading party

Has anyone pointed out that black males commit a lot of crimes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40323578)



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Date: June 1st, 2020 7:18 PM
Author: hairless pungent rehab really tough guy

no but were all feeling a lot of pent up frustration right now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40323613)



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Date: June 2nd, 2020 1:00 AM
Author: Mahogany apoplectic hospital ladyboy

Lib take is that they get unfairly prosecuted more than whites

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40326299)



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Date: June 2nd, 2020 2:58 AM
Author: diverse pit

lol bullshit

"Does the criminal justice system treat African-Americans fairly?

I always assumed it obviously didn’t. Then a while ago I read this harshly polemical but research-filled article claiming to prove it did. Then I found a huge review paper on the subject, written by a Harvard professor of sociology, which concluded after analyzing sixty pages of exquisitely-researched studies that:

'Recognizing that research on criminal justice processing in the United States is complex and fraught with methodological problems, the weight of the evidence reviewed suggests the following. When restricted to index crimes, dozens of individual-level studies have shown that a simple direct influence of race on pretrial release, plea bargaining, conviction, sentence length, and the death penalty among adults is small to nonexistent once legally relevant variables (e.g. prior record) are controlled. For these crimes, racial differentials in sanctioning appear to match the large racial differences in criminal offending. Findings on the processing of adult index crimes therefore generally support the non-discrimination thesis.'

"Once again, there are two possible hypotheses here: either police are biased, or black people actually commit these crimes at higher rates than other groups.

The second hypothesis has been strongly supported by crime victimization surveys, which show that the percent of arrestees who are black matches very closely matches the percent of victims who say their assailant was black. This has been constant throughout across thirty years of crime victmization surveys."

https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/25/race-and-justice-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40326997)



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Date: June 2nd, 2020 3:13 AM
Author: Mahogany apoplectic hospital ladyboy

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40327046)



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Date: June 2nd, 2020 7:23 AM
Author: beta vigorous sanctuary

This "study" strikes me as a perfect example of how libs have co-opted science.

What data did they use to figure death by police? The stats that I have seen show hat fewer than 250 blacks per year are killed by police shootings. The other listed forms of death strike me as incredibly rare, and in the case of 'medical emergency,' dubious as well. I have to make an assumption here so I will be generous to the other side and assume that "asphyxiation, beating, a chemical agent, a medical emergency, [and] a Taser," taken together, contribute as many deaths as by shooting. That would be 1,000 deaths per year.

How does ~1,000 deaths per year get to "100 in 100,000"? A quick search of the population of black men under age 39 in the USA put the number at around 11 million. In order to get to this number, libs would have to find approximately 110,000 black men under age 39 who have been killed by police and this is plainly impossible when using the publicly available data.

The second point about this data is that it limits the pool to "black men and boys," which removes deaths attributable to the most common causes, i.e. heart attack, cancer, natural causes, etc. The vast majority of any given population lives well past the age of 40, and the vast majority of deaths for any given population occur after the age of 40. In fact the vast majority of deaths do not happen until much, much later than the age of 40. So by framing it this way the study hits the high-water mark of "death by police," and even then it's sixth.

Third point is how the data is presented. They say it is the sixth leading cause and although I doubt that very much for reasons stated, by presenting it in this way they gloss over the rate differences between causes 1-5 and cause #6. Actually on this point I will acknowledge a point, I am quite impressed at how they use regular cadence to *totally gloss over* "other homicides' which is the third leading cause of death. Gee I wonder the rate difference between "other homicide" and 'death by police' is? It's probably a factor of 10 or more, but you wouldn't know that from how the data is presented - one is third and the other is sixth.

Last point is that the "death by police" statistic says nothing about the circumstances of those deaths. Were the ones killed in process of a violent crime? Were they armed? Were they the instigators of the police interaction which led to their death? This should matter in any civilized discussion about the issue that has been raised.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40327235)



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Date: June 2nd, 2020 7:39 AM
Author: passionate saffron gas station

Without reading the article, I'll assume that these folks did a fair write up and didnt compare absolute population but instead compared crime-committing populations (the only fair way to adjust this comparison).

Lol jk I'm sure they didnt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&forum_id=2#40327255)