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Teachers basically treating the prospect of returning to school as Chernobyl
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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:27 AM Author: maroon exciting reading party They're acting like going back to school with a mask to teach is akin to being a Chernobyl liquidator and the public has bought this narrative wholesale.
There is no similar public narrative for the cashiers at Walmart, Target, Safeway, etc., who are almost certainly engaged in higher risk encounters. Teachers are lionized as martyrs headed to the trenches of Verdun.
Watching the public eat this up and regurgitate it with pithy Facebook memes and drawings -- without even considering the deleterious impact on elementary school aged children who cannot learn effectively with a laptop or the parents who will need to quit their jobs -- is an insane study in social media groupthink. There is no nuance. No critical thought. Any attempt to consider the social utility of school and the potential risk to childhood development is met with "WHY DO U HATE SCIENCE?!" or some other middling IQ strawman. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:13 PM Author: pearl aphrodisiac space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612441) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 12:26 PM Author: zombie-like community account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617551) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 12:28 PM Author: House-broken goal in life "WHY DO U HATE SCIENCE?!"
Because it inflicts epistemic violence on communities of color and their ways of knowing. |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:54 PM Author: Aqua vigorous rigor lolled at epistemic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40618009) |
Date: July 15th, 2020 10:27 AM Author: hairless heaven lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611605) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:41 AM Author: maroon exciting reading party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611640) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:29 AM Author: maroon exciting reading party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611865) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:34 AM Author: brass pocket flask well some teachers are old and not necessarily in the best health condition (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611904) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:37 AM Author: Fantasy-prone kink-friendly elastic band lodge then they should go home and retire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611930) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:16 PM Author: mint insane dilemma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612115) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:23 PM Author: Light Sickened Indirect Expression Idea He Suggested Cr. Teaching kids about identity politics is just too dangerous a task for this society to pursue (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612156) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:35 AM Author: Sienna Library Govt unions are evil (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611914) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:26 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone onyx codepig corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612173) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:48 PM Author: Canary Blood Rage Stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612289) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:36 AM Author: milky factory reset button athletic conference There was near consensus that schools needed to be re-opened until Trump weighed in on the same.
There's a colorable argument that he now does more damage than good. Ideologically, sure never give an inch to shitlibs. They will brand any and all republicans as Hitler. But there is also pragmatism
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:37 AM Author: cocky menage keepsake machete Wait who's changing their mind about this based on Trump weighing in? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611928) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:14 PM Author: flirting flushed psychic quadroon liberals. i wish dumb fuck trump would shut the fuck up about this so are kids can go to school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612444) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:38 AM Author: Fantasy-prone kink-friendly elastic band lodge fuck off. stop trying to imprison my kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611932) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:39 AM Author: indigo fragrant knife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611940) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:45 AM Author: milky factory reset button athletic conference i dont think my post was clear.
its obvious all schools should be 100% open -- and to do anything less is child abuse.
my garbled point was that last spring everyone i talked to or read online seemed to support that idea. The APA supported it. My kids principal supported it.
Then Trump said the shit about holding back fed funds to schools that dont open, and within days there are think pieces and online arguments about death-schools and even the APA backtracked
Trump seemed to catalyze them and now it's a pro-Trump/anti-Trump issue
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:49 AM Author: Chartreuse hairraiser twinkling uncleanness Therefore, we all need to support libs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611997) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:51 PM Author: Odious legend Trump is on the winning side. This is the sort of social preening issue that is at the heart of silent majority politics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612672) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:21 PM Author: Chartreuse hairraiser twinkling uncleanness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617845) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:48 AM Author: Chartreuse hairraiser twinkling uncleanness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611990) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:36 AM Author: Chartreuse hairraiser twinkling uncleanness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611918) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:36 AM Author: indigo fragrant knife yeah it's sick these people are hysterical NPCs also daycare is somehow ok as an unfortunate necessity but school is not |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 3:49 PM Author: Rose bearded range Daycare workers don't have massive unions that give millions to Democrats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40613411) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:08 PM Author: Misunderstood stirring tattoo locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617784) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:37 AM Author: Hideous set associate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611925) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:38 AM Author: Fantasy-prone kink-friendly elastic band lodge closing schools = child abuse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611934) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:45 AM Author: Galvanic transparent address god most teachers are so fucking worthless.
I saw in a study somewhere that the avg teacher's union member (pub school) has something like a 1030 SAT score, attends a school ranked lower than Flagship State U in their region, takes zero or almost zero substantive classes in whatever subject they ultimately teach (aside from overlap w minimum distribution requirements like US History 101, and Introduction to Biology for Non Science Majors), and despite the obviously shit level of competition in the school of education still graduates on avg with like a 3.09 gpa.
fuck them: they're lucky to make $30k babysitting, and if six hour days with 3.5 months vacation/yr is more than they can bear they can go work retail or be a cashier. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:51 AM Author: buff national circlehead even in the lower paying states they get something like 45k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612001) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:25 PM Author: snowy swashbuckling hissy fit nursing home Know a boomer 4th grade teacher in California that makes over 100k and will retire with a 100k pension for life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612167) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:47 AM Author: 180 fighting fanboi but why DO you hate science???? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40611986) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:15 PM Author: Marvelous Cyan Alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612112) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:20 PM Author: Lascivious temple dragon Teachers feel emboldened in part because most districts gave them full pay in the Spring when everything shut down. People will raise hell if teachers expect full pay with continued shutdowns in the Fall. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612137) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:31 PM Author: irate box office black woman Not only that, but since "distance learning" was a huge dumpster fire where no one learned anything, some parents with smart kids were hiring teachers to tutor on the side.
So quite a decent percentage of teachers were actually making MORE money during the lockdown. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:49 PM Author: maroon exciting reading party No, people will not. People will nod along just like they're doing now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612293) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:11 PM Author: milky factory reset button athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612418) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:53 PM Author: Lascivious temple dragon Probably. Teacher worship has been pushed hard the last few years. Everyone will cuck our in fear of cancel culture. Hopefully teacher worship at least takes a hit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612689) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:27 PM Author: Medicated gas station old irish cottage Teachers are saying WE NEED TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN as an excuse for their not wanting to work this fall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612178) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:48 PM Author: Canary Blood Rage Stage They will take a paycheck though TYVM (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612288) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 12:47 PM Author: Canary Blood Rage Stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612283) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:12 PM Author: coral mind-boggling chad women should be at home breeding babies and raising them to become productive members of society with good moral values
"schools" should be turned into prisons for the "homeless" |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:13 PM Author: cracking mahogany location My wife’s a teacher and I told her she’s not going back this fall and she agrees. We’re in the south and cases are out of control here. Her father is 71, had a stroke and a lifetime smoker, he’s with us and our child constantly.
The shit salary they pay her just isnt worth it. If she can’t teach remote, she’ll use as much paid leave and other similar stuff as possible until they fire her. Either way, we’ll be fine. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:15 PM Author: flirting flushed psychic quadroon is she still going to receive her full paycheck? no offense to you and your wife but that's bullshit if so (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612447) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:17 PM Author: cracking mahogany location If she’s required to go in and doesn’t, she can take a leave at 2/3 pay for some time and when that runs out, she uses PTO and then unpaid leave. Unclear whether she’ll have a job when/if she wants to come back.
Most of her coworkers are in the same spot, so I’m not sure how they are going to run smaller class sizes if half the teachers don’t come in. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:20 PM Author: flirting flushed psychic quadroon again, it's hard for me to make these comments without offending you so sorry if i do. and i'm not on the front lines i'm relegated to being a computer jockey during all of this so this is easy for me to say. but it sounds like her and "most of her coworkers" dgaf about kids if they are looking out for their own self interest above all even though it's not really likely that a kid can infect an adult and precautions can be taken to ensure that the adults don't infect each other. all that posturing about caring about the kids all along was total utter bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612473) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:22 PM Author: Multi-colored kitchen ratface So cr And these asinine mixed schedules are actually more dangerous and worse. Reality is kid can go to school full time and basically go home. Teachers the same. But nyc is implementing one day on one day off lmfao what? So kids are wild 3 days a week or being babysat but Jamaicans? |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:32 PM Author: cracking mahogany location You’re not offending me and I don’t completely disagree with you. She definitely cares about her kids, and so do her coworkers, but it’s to an extent. Some of her coworkers are in 50-60s and not really in great physical condition. These aren’t super educated urban teach for America libs.
I’m just looking out for myself and family. I dont care about her students. Im happy to be the bad guy so she doesn’t feel bad. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:33 PM Author: flirting flushed psychic quadroon sorry but they don't care about the kids at all. this is their chance to step up and their shrinking away. it's perfectly valid for you to be looking out solely for your family in this situation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612560) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:54 PM Author: Odious legend They should quit. I don't work a dangerous job cuz I don't want to. Reality is there are a million (literally probably more) people willing to do the job just as effectively. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612699) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 3:52 PM Author: green gaming laptop institution totally fair and reasonable on your part. if somebody told me i could basically quit my job but get paid anyway i’d jump at the opportunity. the bullshit part is the system is set up to allow this and it’s actively being encouraged by the chattering classes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40613427) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 11:57 AM Author: Rose bearded range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617404) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:32 PM Author: mint insane dilemma They should fire them and hire new teachers who are willing to do the job. The older ones should probably just call it a day. For them, it probably isn't worth the risk to continue being a teacher. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612544) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:33 PM Author: cracking mahogany location There is already a massive teacher shortage here. Class sizes routinely 35+ because pay so low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612563) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:37 PM Author: mint insane dilemma They should probably pay more then. But they people they pay should have to come in and do the fucking job. Lots of jobs have risks, even before COVID. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612590) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:56 PM Author: Odious legend Bullshit re any teacher shortage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612714) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 12:10 PM Author: supple step-uncle's house nowag Unions make it impossible to become a teacher without getting bullshit education degrees (LOL) and going through union indoctrination seminars. It's why unions hate TFA. If you wanted to go back to ur small town and teach middle school history, the union would tell you to go fuck urself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617459) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 3:16 PM Author: irate box office black woman What percentage of school budget goes to pensions and health benefits for former teachers?
That’s usually the answer as to why pay is so low. |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 11:57 AM Author: Rose bearded range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617406) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:15 PM Author: milky factory reset button athletic conference Pretty sure there is not one case, worldwide, of a child infecting an adult -- whether parent or teacher or caregiver. Not ONE case.
Nonetheless, sweet that you have a SAHM now, so congrats |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:18 PM Author: cracking mahogany location She teaches 17-18 year olds (is that how old high school juniors/seniors are? my math is bad/lazy) It’s going to be hot so AC on and windows closed. It’s not worth the risk for a sub $50K salary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612461) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:20 PM Author: milky factory reset button athletic conference SMC chick? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612472) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:21 PM Author: cracking mahogany location Not familiar with the acronym. She teaches AP Bio and occasionally chem and regular bio. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612480) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:22 PM Author: milky factory reset button athletic conference ah i thought for some reason you were a fellow domer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612489) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:25 PM Author: cracking mahogany location Met her in my late 20s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612509) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:16 PM Author: Multi-colored kitchen ratface That's fine. So is keeping a kid out of school who had some health condition. What isn't fine is keeping EVERYONE out when those peeps have no fucking risk of dying |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:23 PM Author: cracking mahogany location Elementary school seems safer and more essentially to have in person, even in high case states. The providers should be less in sanitation and more on keeping teachers/staff from coming near each other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612497) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:24 PM Author: balding center queen of the night Cr This lib faggot wants to end everyone’s life and kill them basically |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:31 PM Author: mint insane dilemma She should seek other employment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612536) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:32 PM Author: flirting flushed psychic quadroon cr. not sure if this is your point but this is teachers' one chance to step up for the kids and they're shrinking back like pussies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612549) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:36 PM Author: mint insane dilemma I mean, if they don't feel like they are fairly compensated for the risks they face, then they should quit and do something else and let them hire new, younger teachers who are healthy and willing and capable of doing the job. If they have to raise the pay rates then they should do that too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612583) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:56 PM Author: flirting flushed psychic quadroon ya fuck them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612713) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:44 PM Author: hairless heaven how much $$ would it take to get her to show up and potentially kill ur father in law w fraudvirus? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612634) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:25 PM Author: laughsome magenta cumskin party of the first part it is only a matter of time before special interest groups and lobbies of various types have a meme making group providing jobs to zoomers. looking forward to $80k masters programs in meme development in the future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612508) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:26 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle mad cow disease TBF, teachers already acted like they were heroes and not overpaid babysitters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612514) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:28 PM Author: Aquamarine thriller private investor business firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612524) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 1:47 PM Author: Iridescent stead therapy Teachers are the ultimate bird brains, plus also the laziest occupation in society. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40612650) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 2:51 PM Author: judgmental erotic telephone The ground work has been laid for this as a while. There was nothing more fucking ridiculous than teachers teaching from home getting some kind of hero treatment through all of this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40613025) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 5:14 PM Author: Soul-stirring Brunch Idiot When you realize the primary purpose of the education system is to provide jobs for teachers and administrations, and that the kids are just collateral damage, it doesn't seem that insane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40613772) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 5:15 PM Author: balding center queen of the night And these dumbfucks “teach” our children... sick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40613778) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 5:18 PM Author: Wonderful karate hall every union, everywhere, is always trying to get more $$$ for its members for less work. This is the entire purpose of unions. If a steelworker's union could somehow convince the plant to give them full pay for "remote work" where they just sat in front of a tv all day, they'd do it in an instant.
But of course if the steel union made that request, they'd be laughed out of the boardroom and they'd get zero sympathy from the public. The only difference is that the teacher's union somehow has such a grip on the public imagination that they can do whatever they want |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:53 PM Author: Rose bearded range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40618005) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 12:12 PM Author: supple step-uncle's house nowag Ljl at kid havers. This is a disaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617468) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:25 PM Author: contagious meetinghouse They need to go back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40617872) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:03 PM Author: maroon exciting reading party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585474&forum_id=2#40618049) |