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Blizzard employees revolt over not receiving >10% pay raises (ink)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-03/blizzard-...
Diverse Maniacal Field Macaca
  08/11/20
One employee wrote that they had to skip meals to pay rent a...
orange mind-boggling location patrolman
  08/11/20
another scammed reddit for free pizza
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  08/11/20
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emerald resort black woman
  08/11/20
Sounds like they have lavish lifestyles
Diverse Maniacal Field Macaca
  08/11/20
*TMF adding cost of shitty free coffee to their total HHI* *...
Snowy sinister stage
  08/11/20
lol you beat me to the "all in" joke
comical black state
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Mahogany concupiscible brethren mad-dog skullcap
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I been following this story (i'm a big MMO-mo though I don't...
hairless domesticated twinkling uncleanness
  08/11/20
Lmfao at in game membership time being an employment perk jf...
Hideous factory reset button indian lodge
  08/11/20
One guy posted that he has 25 years of WoW subscription. T...
hairless domesticated twinkling uncleanness
  08/11/20
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Hideous factory reset button indian lodge
  08/11/20
great link; not one salary aside from the ceo's listed in th...
marvelous ruby home place of business
  08/11/20
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/119RI3oS9XNOjq2X8VLpU...
Salmon point
  08/11/20
is this a joke? I make more than a Senior Project Manager at...
comical black state
  08/11/20
This is in Austin too. I didn't realize pay was relatively l...
Diverse Maniacal Field Macaca
  08/11/20
I thought Blizzard was in Irvine
comical black state
  08/11/20
nevermind, i see now that there's diff office locations on t...
comical black state
  08/11/20
Why can't I fucking sort this piece of shit table? Whoever m...
Glassy roast beef public bath
  08/11/20
They should be boosting the salaries a bit because the talen...
Arousing codepig
  08/11/20
Serves them right for ruining WoW.
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  08/11/20
Lol.
carnelian tanning salon therapy
  08/11/20
why do they think they're entitled to more pay? Japanese gam...
Gaped Sooty Church
  08/11/20
(bobby kotick)
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  08/11/20
(Kagemasa Kozuki)
Lascivious Brunch Crotch
  08/11/20
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carnelian tanning salon therapy
  08/11/20
Pay raise for what? Do they even make games anymore? Whe...
Jet Sickened Ratface Reading Party
  08/11/20
Tbf, Diablo 4 is in production
Diverse Maniacal Field Macaca
  08/11/20
Ugh... diablo is their worst. Just click click click click
Jet Sickened Ratface Reading Party
  08/11/20
WHAT, U DON'T HAVE PHONES?!?1
Lascivious Brunch Crotch
  08/11/20
No, diablo 4 is a legit PC game
Diverse Maniacal Field Macaca
  08/11/20
oh dang i was hoping they do more shitty mobile games dia...
Lascivious Brunch Crotch
  08/11/20
35k to be a GM in Austin. Good or bad if you're just some r...
Mewling bossy famous landscape painting personal credit line
  08/11/20
You can make more bartending on 6th street.
Glassy roast beef public bath
  08/11/20
yeah but can u be fat and ugly and feel superior to other ne...
Lascivious Brunch Crotch
  08/11/20
...
carnelian tanning salon therapy
  08/11/20
whats a GM?
metal grizzly principal's office windowlicker
  08/11/20
game master, you basically handle customer support in game
peach shrine
  08/12/20
everyone knows gaming has the worst work-life balance and lo...
Swollen startled tattoo halford
  08/11/20
Bobby Kotick couldn't tell you how to reload in Warzone, but...
Hateful avocado degenerate
  08/11/20
imagine if games studios could attract the talent that goes ...
comical black state
  08/11/20
It's because videogames are art.
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  08/11/20
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Arousing codepig
  08/12/20
Because you can already "dominate the gaming industry&q...
Hateful avocado degenerate
  08/11/20
that was my point though, if you get the talent and pay them...
comical black state
  08/11/20
Okay, you risk billions on "something truly unique and ...
Hateful avocado degenerate
  08/11/20
Apple didn't get where they are by aping the competition, at...
comical black state
  08/11/20
Gaming is hits driven and it’s hard if not impossible ...
twisted persian stead
  08/12/20
Nerds: video games::alpha law students:DA offices::young shr...
maize vivacious mother regret
  08/11/20
how has this model of giving millions to CEOs and scraps to ...
Topaz self-absorbed bawdyhouse trust fund
  08/11/20
"For the quarter ended June 30, 2020, Activision Blizza...
Hateful avocado degenerate
  08/11/20
seems like they cash hoard more than Amazon The CEO of ev...
Topaz self-absorbed bawdyhouse trust fund
  08/11/20
CEOs are STRATEGIC THINKERS aka merge and divest every few y...
bistre bipolar lay
  08/12/20
I don't see what the problem is. The large "discrepanci...
Flatulent Swashbuckling Pozpig
  08/11/20
It's because video games are art.
metal grizzly principal's office windowlicker
  08/11/20
It's widely known in the industry that game companies pay ab...
navy laughsome legend
  08/12/20
The Engineering involved in a video game seems more "re...
Flatulent Swashbuckling Pozpig
  08/12/20
lol u know jack shit about software engineering
Lascivious Brunch Crotch
  08/12/20
I knew a game designer 15 years ago and he was pretty smart ...
bistre bipolar lay
  08/12/20
again u know jack shit about software engineering i know ...
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  08/12/20
Thought this was about Dairy Queen.
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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:16 PM
Author: Diverse Maniacal Field Macaca

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-03/blizzard-workers-share-salaries-in-revolt-over-wage-disparities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739531)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:24 PM
Author: orange mind-boggling location patrolman

One employee wrote that they had to skip meals to pay rent and that they used the company’s free coffee as an appetite suppressant. Another said they would only eat oatmeal and bail on team lunches because they couldn’t afford to buy food at the company cafeteria.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739621)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:25 PM
Author: hairraiser gas station

another scammed reddit for free pizza

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739630)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:27 PM
Author: Slate mischievous national legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739647)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:55 PM
Author: emerald resort black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740016)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:25 PM
Author: Diverse Maniacal Field Macaca

Sounds like they have lavish lifestyles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739633)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:39 PM
Author: Snowy sinister stage

*TMF adding cost of shitty free coffee to their total HHI* *frowns when he realizes they make more than him*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739836)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:44 PM
Author: comical black state

lol you beat me to the "all in" joke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739890)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:54 PM
Author: Sadistic Wine Puppy Rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740007)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 11:43 PM
Author: Mahogany concupiscible brethren mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40742214)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:30 PM
Author: hairless domesticated twinkling uncleanness

I been following this story (i'm a big MMO-mo though I don't play WoW) and they all posted their salaries and it honestly didn't seem that bad to me. There's definitely some shittiness with Blizzard offering perks like in-game membership time in lieu of actual bonuses though, that part is kind of funny. Reminds me of the old song 16 Tons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739707)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:24 PM
Author: Hideous factory reset button indian lodge

Lmfao at in game membership time being an employment perk jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740276)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 6:20 PM
Author: hairless domesticated twinkling uncleanness

One guy posted that he has 25 years of WoW subscription. That's kind of hilarious tbh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740597)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 7:56 PM
Author: Hideous factory reset button indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40741063)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:31 PM
Author: marvelous ruby home place of business

great link; not one salary aside from the ceo's listed in the "entire" article.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739715)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:32 PM
Author: Salmon point

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/119RI3oS9XNOjq2X8VLpUOMpyarcMsNzid-nA1OqbXkA/htmlview?pru=AAABc9xm048*IoWzMOeJOOiSRFAKtwbe_g

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739738)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:35 PM
Author: comical black state

is this a joke? I make more than a Senior Project Manager at Blizzard and I'm only a lowly engineer at a startup.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739789)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:36 PM
Author: Diverse Maniacal Field Macaca

This is in Austin too. I didn't realize pay was relatively low there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739800)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:38 PM
Author: comical black state

I thought Blizzard was in Irvine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739827)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:40 PM
Author: comical black state

nevermind, i see now that there's diff office locations on the sheet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739848)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:03 PM
Author: Glassy roast beef public bath

Why can't I fucking sort this piece of shit table? Whoever made this deserves to be fired for failing at basic excel skills. I was making pivot tables in 8th fucking grade.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740095)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:33 PM
Author: Arousing codepig

They should be boosting the salaries a bit because the talent leaving is a big issue - they should embrace the tech company catered free food thing IMO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739756)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:37 PM
Author: Beady-eyed gay kitty cat

Serves them right for ruining WoW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739805)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:43 PM
Author: brindle property coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739875)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 6:01 PM
Author: carnelian tanning salon therapy

Lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740483)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:39 PM
Author: Gaped Sooty Church

why do they think they're entitled to more pay? Japanese game developers don't get paid a whole lot of money and they make better games on average than Blizzard. this just seems like a lot of entitled BS to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739838)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:45 PM
Author: hairraiser gas station

(bobby kotick)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40739899)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:53 PM
Author: Lascivious Brunch Crotch

(Kagemasa Kozuki)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740003)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 6:01 PM
Author: carnelian tanning salon therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740488)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:56 PM
Author: Jet Sickened Ratface Reading Party

Pay raise for what? Do they even make games anymore?

Where’s Starcraft Ghost? Warcraft 4? Starcraft 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740023)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:56 PM
Author: Diverse Maniacal Field Macaca

Tbf, Diablo 4 is in production

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740028)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 4:57 PM
Author: Jet Sickened Ratface Reading Party

Ugh... diablo is their worst. Just click click click click

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740033)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:00 PM
Author: Lascivious Brunch Crotch

WHAT, U DON'T HAVE PHONES?!?1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740064)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:06 PM
Author: Diverse Maniacal Field Macaca

No, diablo 4 is a legit PC game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740118)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:08 PM
Author: Lascivious Brunch Crotch

oh dang i was hoping they do more shitty mobile games

diablo franchise died with diablo 3.

they should make a warcraft 4 RTS game. or fix hearthstone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740134)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:04 PM
Author: Mewling bossy famous landscape painting personal credit line

35k to be a GM in Austin. Good or bad if you're just some random high school grad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740104)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:06 PM
Author: Glassy roast beef public bath

You can make more bartending on 6th street.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740125)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:09 PM
Author: Lascivious Brunch Crotch

yeah but can u be fat and ugly and feel superior to other nerds in a virtual world on 6th street?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740142)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 6:01 PM
Author: carnelian tanning salon therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740489)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:23 PM
Author: metal grizzly principal's office windowlicker

whats a GM?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740260)



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Date: August 12th, 2020 12:12 AM
Author: peach shrine

game master, you basically handle customer support in game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40742354)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:11 PM
Author: Swollen startled tattoo halford

everyone knows gaming has the worst work-life balance and lowest pay per hour in the software industry. the execs take advantage of loser nerds who aren't willing to stand up for themselves by forcing long hours, ridiculously tight deadlines, and low pay on them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740162)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:13 PM
Author: Hateful avocado degenerate

Bobby Kotick couldn't tell you how to reload in Warzone, but he can tell you how to fire hundreds of employees after a year that saw record profits. That's why he makes $40M and the monkeys churning out the microtransactions live off break room coffee.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740169)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:21 PM
Author: comical black state

imagine if games studios could attract the talent that goes to Amazon, Google, Apple, etc. I don't know why they haven't tried to do this and dominate the gaming industry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740238)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:24 PM
Author: metal grizzly principal's office windowlicker

It's because videogames are art.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740274)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:25 PM
Author: arrogant henna university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740278)



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Date: August 12th, 2020 12:36 AM
Author: Arousing codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40742424)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:40 PM
Author: Hateful avocado degenerate

Because you can already "dominate the gaming industry" paying poverty-level wages to nerds who will grind themselves to death for the privilege of making your product?

Most games being made today are lowest-common-denominator slop stuffed to the gills with microtransactions. You don't need Google engineers making $300k to churn out a Warzone battle pass every 60 days or update the roster in the next FIFA game.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740368)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:43 PM
Author: comical black state

that was my point though, if you get the talent and pay them well maybe they can make something truly unique and forward-thinking and make you obscene amounts of ca$h

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740387)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:48 PM
Author: Hateful avocado degenerate

Okay, you risk billions on "something truly unique and forward thinking." Meanwhile, Activision will print billions selling digital hats and gun skins to the mass market of retards willing to buy them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740411)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:51 PM
Author: comical black state

Apple didn't get where they are by aping the competition, at least not directly. it's a risk, yeah, just surprised no one has pounced on it yet. it's not like there's a shortage of money in the games industry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740436)



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Date: August 12th, 2020 12:34 PM
Author: twisted persian stead

Gaming is hits driven and it’s hard if not impossible to algorithmically determine what’s is a hit (look at Netflix). cos like google succeed from being really good at math and tech, they are autists who don’t have what it takes to make engaging content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40744384)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 6:26 PM
Author: maize vivacious mother regret

Nerds: video games::alpha law students:DA offices::young shrews:PR

Jobs that are desirable type work to certain people so they can get away with paying absolute shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740630)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:41 PM
Author: Topaz self-absorbed bawdyhouse trust fund

how has this model of giving millions to CEOs and scraps to employees been sustainable?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740376)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:44 PM
Author: Hateful avocado degenerate

"For the quarter ended June 30, 2020, Activision Blizzard’s net revenues presented in accordance with GAAP were $1.93 billion, as compared with $1.40 billion for the second quarter of 2019. GAAP net revenues from digital channels were $1.59 billion, as compared with $1.09 billion for the second quarter of 2019. GAAP operating margin was 39%."

https://investor.activision.com/news-releases/news-release-details/activision-blizzard-announces-record-second-quarter-2020

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740395)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 5:46 PM
Author: Topaz self-absorbed bawdyhouse trust fund

seems like they cash hoard more than Amazon

The CEO of every corporation is essentially a slush fund golem socking away wealth for the future

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740405)



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Date: August 12th, 2020 12:44 PM
Author: bistre bipolar lay

CEOs are STRATEGIC THINKERS aka merge and divest every few years to take advantage of synergies or focus on core competencies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40744483)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 6:20 PM
Author: Flatulent Swashbuckling Pozpig

I don't see what the problem is. The large "discrepancies" I am seeing are between Engineers making ~$150k and Losers averaging like $46,600. The moral of the story is to have a Clique, e.g. to be a Nerd and Engineer things. The Losers on the staff probably grew up playing video games passively like idiots whereas the Nerds were coding games in BASIC at age 7.

Sure, some of the Engineers make $110k and some make $160k but for all I know the latter is experienced in coding WoW expansions and the former is a n00b or Peter from office space.

Also a 10% average raise would just average out to 20% for Nerds and 0% for Losers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40740598)



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Date: August 11th, 2020 7:51 PM
Author: metal grizzly principal's office windowlicker

It's because video games are art.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40741035)



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Date: August 12th, 2020 12:01 AM
Author: navy laughsome legend

It's widely known in the industry that game companies pay absolute shit. Go work for a real tech company if you want to make any money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40742323)



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Date: August 12th, 2020 10:34 AM
Author: Flatulent Swashbuckling Pozpig

The Engineering involved in a video game seems more "real" than NFLX or a shitty website like AMZN or facebook. Physics and Game Engines and shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40743690)



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Date: August 12th, 2020 12:26 PM
Author: Lascivious Brunch Crotch

lol u know jack shit about software engineering

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40744320)



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Date: August 12th, 2020 12:45 PM
Author: bistre bipolar lay

I knew a game designer 15 years ago and he was pretty smart and took a lot of grad-level comp sci and math

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40744498)



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Date: August 12th, 2020 12:52 PM
Author: Lascivious Brunch Crotch

again u know jack shit about software engineering

i know a smart PHD quant friend working at lowe's. doesn't mean they need to boost lowe's salaries to google/netflix levels.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601694&forum_id=2#40744540)



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Date: August 12th, 2020 11:19 AM
Author: submissive newt prole

Thought this was about Dairy Queen.

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