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I don't want to give the stats for the regions yet, because ...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  07/28/06
How's Covington & Burling data?
aromatic selfie hairy legs
  07/28/06
I'm going to kill some people soon
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  07/28/06
Let me give you the data for the Baker Botts offices you are...
Poppy soggy double fault circlehead
  07/28/06
awesome, this is a big help, esp. for the Texas firms, thank...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  07/28/06
You need to tell me about the BB summer program and your imp...
violent dilemma
  07/28/06
Oh sure. I actually have free-time to do that now. I just fi...
Poppy soggy double fault circlehead
  07/28/06
Alright, I have a thread, ask me whatever you want: http:...
Poppy soggy double fault circlehead
  07/28/06
wait, do you go to chicago? there's no one from chicago list...
Sexy Bateful Tanning Salon
  07/28/06
I'm at the Houston office (there's two of us here). We get a...
Poppy soggy double fault circlehead
  07/28/06
anyone else this afternoon?
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  07/28/06
Goodwin Procter is now up
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  07/28/06
come on, a couple more?
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  07/28/06
YOUR BLOG SHOULD BE TURNED INTO A BOOK AND THEN INTO A TV SH...
olive home
  07/28/06
I'm in talks with VH1, now that I have a "top 100"...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  07/28/06
PLEASE HIRE ME AS THE ATTEMPTING TO BE FUNNY YET PAINFUL TO ...
olive home
  07/28/06
Crowell & Moring DC 18 Penn' 3, Georgetown 2, U Mi...
Chrome Erotic Point Deer Antler
  07/28/06
you wouldn't happen to have Covington's stats, would you...?...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  07/28/06
unfortunately no. i'm sorry.
Chrome Erotic Point Deer Antler
  07/28/06
61 SUMMERS 16 HARVARD 9 YALE 11 COLUMBIA 6 NYU 4 GTOW...
olive home
  07/28/06
...
Medicated indecent plaza incel
  07/30/06
...
Cerise vivacious potus elastic band
  07/30/06
YOU WOULD THINK THE "1 COOLEY" ON THE LIST WOULD M...
olive home
  07/30/06
...
stirring locus
  07/31/06
anything else?
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  07/30/06
Gtown is missing from Shearman & Sterling's breakdown of...
Boyish ticket booth
  07/30/06
thanks, I'm an idiot. any others?
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  07/30/06
Sidley Chicago has two students from Southern Univ.
Galvanic church building
  07/30/06
WHAT!!! that's SAD! fucking AA, what a joke.
Concupiscible Rambunctious State Love Of Her Life
  07/30/06
It's Perkins Coie, not Perkins Cole.
Cerise vivacious potus elastic band
  07/30/06
I'm making some changes, any more?
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  07/30/06
-fixed Coie -e-mailed someone who may be able to help with ...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  07/31/06
...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  07/31/06
...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  07/31/06
...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  08/01/06
So should I alter the stats to reflect the new Vault ranking...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  08/01/06
Question for you: Were there any surprises personally as ...
Translucent fantasy-prone hospital
  08/01/06
Some because of overall placement, some because of regional ...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  08/01/06
cool thanks
Translucent fantasy-prone hospital
  08/01/06
what about ND were you impressed with?
Yapping sapphire hissy fit roommate
  08/01/06
Diversity in firm placement--it didn't fare as well in DC or...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  08/01/06
It's more accurate to leave it as is because those were the ...
Spectacular Crimson Marketing Idea Feces
  08/01/06
that's what I figured I'd do. it's just sad that I won't ge...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  08/01/06
...
Mischievous queen of the night
  08/01/06
Anything I can do for you? I know, stats for Boston, even l...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  08/01/06
...
Mischievous queen of the night
  08/01/06
hmm, how about % in the Vault 5? 1 Yale 24.1% 4 Columbia...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  08/01/06
...
Mischievous queen of the night
  08/01/06
I got nothin'
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  08/01/06
Your "unknown" Debevoise summer is from NYU. NYU h...
french public bath masturbator
  08/01/06
nice, thanks, I've got a couple of other changes to make sho...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  08/01/06
WOW. THAT PLACE MUST BE FESTERING.
olive home
  08/01/06
Huh?
french public bath masturbator
  08/01/06
You're going to need to adjust your page in light of the new...
olive home
  08/01/06
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&for...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  08/01/06
Squire Sanders: http://www.ssd.com/files/tbl_s10News/FileUpl...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  08/01/06
come on, Covington summers have got to be around somewhere
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  08/02/06
Mostly-helpful DLA Piper stats: http://www.dlapiper.com/us/c...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  08/02/06
Greenberg breakdown (WITH PICTURES): http://www.gtlaw.com/re...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  08/02/06
...covington summers, where are you...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  08/02/06
All Vinson now available: http://lawfirmaddict.blogspot.com/...
Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel
  08/05/06


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Date: July 28th, 2006 4:56 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

I don't want to give the stats for the regions yet, because there are some large gaps at the bottom of the Vault chart. Check out http://lawfirmaddict.blogspot.com and make sure there aren't any big errors. If you can contribute, either post here or post anonymously there. Feel free to discuss here, and I'll follow up shortly with some statistics as everyone enters OCI season, if we can fill in some more stats. thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6324393)





Date: July 28th, 2006 5:05 PM
Author: aromatic selfie hairy legs

How's Covington & Burling data?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6324484)





Date: July 28th, 2006 5:09 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

I'm going to kill some people soon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6324512)





Date: July 28th, 2006 5:14 PM
Author: Poppy soggy double fault circlehead

Let me give you the data for the Baker Botts offices you are missing:

Austin

UT: 12

Houston: 2

Cornell: 1

------

Dallas

Cornell: 2

Columbia: 1

Stanford: 2

Mich: 2

UT: 13

Washington: 1

Duke: 2

SMU: 4

Pepperdine: 1

UVa: 2

Oklahoma: 2

Tech: 1

Tulane: 1

NYU: 1

GULC: 1

W&L: 1

------

NYC

NYU: 2

UT: 1

Columbia: 2

Boston College: 1

Fordham: 1

-----

DC

UVa: 5

Columbia: 1

GULC: 3

Stanford: 1

Vanderbilt: 1

Harvard: 4

Howard: 1

Duke: 1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6324547)





Date: July 28th, 2006 5:16 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

awesome, this is a big help, esp. for the Texas firms, thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6324557)





Date: July 28th, 2006 5:27 PM
Author: violent dilemma

You need to tell me about the BB summer program and your impressions about the firm sometime.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6324632)





Date: July 28th, 2006 5:28 PM
Author: Poppy soggy double fault circlehead

Oh sure. I actually have free-time to do that now. I just finished my big memo. I'll start another thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6324647)





Date: July 28th, 2006 5:31 PM
Author: Poppy soggy double fault circlehead

Alright, I have a thread, ask me whatever you want:

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=463634&mc=1&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6324679)





Date: July 28th, 2006 6:21 PM
Author: Sexy Bateful Tanning Salon

wait, do you go to chicago? there's no one from chicago listed in those numbers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6325246)





Date: July 28th, 2006 6:23 PM
Author: Poppy soggy double fault circlehead

I'm at the Houston office (there's two of us here). We get a book with a list of interns at all offices, which is where I pulled the Dallas/Austin/NYC/DC numbers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6325274)





Date: July 28th, 2006 5:46 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

anyone else this afternoon?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6324839)





Date: July 28th, 2006 6:07 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

Goodwin Procter is now up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6325080)





Date: July 28th, 2006 6:19 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

come on, a couple more?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6325220)





Date: July 28th, 2006 6:26 PM
Author: olive home

YOUR BLOG SHOULD BE TURNED INTO A BOOK AND THEN INTO A TV SHOW. THE RATINGS WILL BE PHENOMENAL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6325308)





Date: July 28th, 2006 6:27 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

I'm in talks with VH1, now that I have a "top 100" list. I think William Shatner will host it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6325316)





Date: July 28th, 2006 6:28 PM
Author: olive home

PLEASE HIRE ME AS THE ATTEMPTING TO BE FUNNY YET PAINFUL TO WATCH COMMENTATOR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6325329)





Date: July 28th, 2006 6:27 PM
Author: Chrome Erotic Point Deer Antler

Crowell & Moring

DC 18

Penn' 3, Georgetown 2, U Michigan 2, Maryland 2, Harvard, American, NYU, Pitt, Duke, Emory, Stanford, GWU, Boalt each 1

CA 4

Harvard, USC, Notre Dame, Hastings each 1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6325319)





Date: July 28th, 2006 6:29 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

you wouldn't happen to have Covington's stats, would you...? just hoping

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6325346)





Date: July 28th, 2006 6:32 PM
Author: Chrome Erotic Point Deer Antler

unfortunately no. i'm sorry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6325365)





Date: July 28th, 2006 6:36 PM
Author: olive home

61 SUMMERS

16 HARVARD

9 YALE

11 COLUMBIA

6 NYU

4 GTOWN

4 UVA

4 STANFORD

3 GW

3 AMERICAN

1 COOLEY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6325411)





Date: July 30th, 2006 1:48 PM
Author: Medicated indecent plaza incel
Subject: totally made up, there's at least 4 from michigan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6336616)





Date: July 30th, 2006 1:53 PM
Author: Cerise vivacious potus elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6336634)





Date: July 30th, 2006 3:06 PM
Author: olive home

YOU WOULD THINK THE "1 COOLEY" ON THE LIST WOULD MAKE IT OBVIOUS THAT THIS WAS BOGUS. GOOD JOB POINTING OUT THE OBVIOUS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6337097)





Date: July 31st, 2006 10:24 AM
Author: stirring locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6342995)





Date: July 30th, 2006 9:18 AM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

anything else?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6335766)





Date: July 30th, 2006 10:29 AM
Author: Boyish ticket booth

Gtown is missing from Shearman & Sterling's breakdown of global summer class by school. Gtown has at least 10+...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6335908)





Date: July 30th, 2006 12:34 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

thanks, I'm an idiot. any others?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6336260)





Date: July 30th, 2006 1:32 PM
Author: Galvanic church building

Sidley Chicago has two students from Southern Univ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6336529)





Date: July 30th, 2006 1:42 PM
Author: Concupiscible Rambunctious State Love Of Her Life

WHAT!!! that's SAD!

fucking AA, what a joke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6336581)





Date: July 30th, 2006 1:54 PM
Author: Cerise vivacious potus elastic band

It's Perkins Coie, not Perkins Cole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6336639)





Date: July 30th, 2006 11:11 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

I'm making some changes, any more?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6340399)





Date: July 31st, 2006 9:10 AM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

-fixed Coie

-e-mailed someone who may be able to help with Freshfield

-added non-NYC Cadwalder (I think that's accurate)

-two Southern to Sidley, leaving Sidley Chicago's unknown at 9

-added 10 to Shearman global

more? Keep them coming

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6342858)





Date: July 31st, 2006 2:33 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6345138)





Date: July 31st, 2006 5:42 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6347206)





Date: August 1st, 2006 8:01 AM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6351704)





Date: August 1st, 2006 2:21 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

So should I alter the stats to reflect the new Vault rankings? Or is it more accurate to show which firms took SAs based on their previous ranking?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6353655)





Date: August 1st, 2006 2:22 PM
Author: Translucent fantasy-prone hospital

Question for you:

Were there any surprises personally as you were compiling this data so far? In terms of schools you thought would place better, and school that placed better than you thought?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6353664)





Date: August 1st, 2006 2:29 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

Some because of overall placement, some because of regional placement. I was impressed with Columbia, Michigan, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, Illinois, Wake Forest, Fordham, Houston, and Howard, all for different reasons. I was disappointed by Minnesota, WUSTL, W&L, W&M, and George Mason, again all for different reasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6353722)





Date: August 1st, 2006 2:30 PM
Author: Translucent fantasy-prone hospital

cool thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6353737)





Date: August 1st, 2006 2:32 PM
Author: Yapping sapphire hissy fit roommate

what about ND were you impressed with?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6353746)





Date: August 1st, 2006 2:36 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

Diversity in firm placement--it didn't fare as well in DC or CA, but it did well in TX and NYC, given the small samples from TX in particular.

Edit, in terms of diversity, I was most impressed with Michigan's diversity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6353774)





Date: August 1st, 2006 5:05 PM
Author: Spectacular Crimson Marketing Idea Feces

It's more accurate to leave it as is because those were the rankings the SAs chose the firms with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6354986)





Date: August 1st, 2006 5:20 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

that's what I figured I'd do. it's just sad that I won't get some good stats up until when the new Vault rankings come out.

of course, that and I'm still waiting for Covington

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6355113)





Date: August 1st, 2006 3:10 PM
Author: Mischievous queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6354074)





Date: August 1st, 2006 3:13 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

Anything I can do for you? I know, stats for Boston, even less reported than CA and TX.

22 Boston U 8.2%

27 Boston College 7.3%

3 Harvard 6.1%

13 Cornell 4.1%

7 Penn 2.9%

4 Columbia 2.6%

14 Georgetown 2.1%

8 Michigan 1.6%

8 Virginia 1.6%

4 NYU 1.6%

1 Yale 1.5%

11 Duke 1.0%

87 Northeastern 0.9%

FTT Suffolk 0.9%

12 Northwestern 0.8%

18 GWU 0.7%

TTT Howard 0.6%

22 Notre Dame 0.6%

27 Washington 0.6%

27 Illinois 0.5%

6 Chicago 0.5%

26 Emory 0.4%

42 Maryland 0.4%

8 Boalt 0.4%

19 Minnesota 0.4%

16 Texas 0.2%

43 American 0.2%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6354110)





Date: August 1st, 2006 3:15 PM
Author: Mischievous queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6354122)





Date: August 1st, 2006 3:20 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

hmm, how about % in the Vault 5?

1 Yale 24.1%

4 Columbia 16.4%

3 Harvard 15.3%

6 Chicago 14.6%

7 Penn 12.8%

2 Stanford 11.0%

4 NYU 9.8%

13 Cornell 6.7%

11 Duke 6.5%

12 Northwestern 5.3%

8 Michigan 4.4%

14 Georgetown 4.1%

8 Boalt 3.8%

8 Virginia 3.7%

17 Vanderbilt 3.5%

22 Notre Dame 2.3%

32 Fordham 2.1%

16 Texas 2.0%

65 Rutgers 2.0%

22 Boston U 1.7%

27 Boston College 1.5%

17 USC 1.4%

43 Arizona 1.3%

15 UCLA 1.3%

18 GWU 1.1%

27 Illinois 1.1%

50 UConn 1.0%

43 Tulane 1.0%

19 WUSTL 0.9%

27 North Carolina 0.9%

43 American 0.9%

60 Villanova 0.8%

TTT Albany 0.8%

58 Brooklyn 0.8%

34 BYU 0.7%

39 Wake Forest 0.6%

TTT Howard 0.6%

65 Kentucky 0.6%

53 Cardozo 0.5%

27 W&M 0.5%

39 Ohio State 0.5%

22 Iowa 0.4%

26 Emory 0.4%

87 Pepperdine 0.4%

32 Wisconsin 0.4%

43 SMU 0.3%

FTT Touro 0.3%

70 Houston 0.3%

80 St. John's 0.3%

60 Kent 0.3%

41 Florida 0.2%

TTT NY Law 0.2%

FTT Weidner 0.2%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6354174)





Date: August 1st, 2006 5:49 PM
Author: Mischievous queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6355383)





Date: August 1st, 2006 5:54 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

I got nothin'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6355428)





Date: August 1st, 2006 4:24 PM
Author: french public bath masturbator

Your "unknown" Debevoise summer is from NYU. NYU has 16 total. Everything else is right...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6354676)





Date: August 1st, 2006 4:27 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

nice, thanks, I've got a couple of other changes to make shortly, I'll include that along with them. Also...

Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer

NYC: Georgetown 2, Pepperdine, Penn, NYU, Fordham

DC: Georgetown

London: Michigan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6354702)





Date: August 1st, 2006 4:29 PM
Author: olive home

WOW. THAT PLACE MUST BE FESTERING.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6354715)





Date: August 1st, 2006 4:47 PM
Author: french public bath masturbator

Huh?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6354849)





Date: August 1st, 2006 5:24 PM
Author: olive home

You're going to need to adjust your page in light of the new Vault rankings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6355149)





Date: August 1st, 2006 5:28 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6353655

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6355190)





Date: August 1st, 2006 5:32 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

Squire Sanders: http://www.ssd.com/files/tbl_s10News/FileUpload44/12455/SummerAssoc.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6355219)





Date: August 2nd, 2006 8:15 AM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

come on, Covington summers have got to be around somewhere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6359692)





Date: August 2nd, 2006 11:08 AM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

Mostly-helpful DLA Piper stats: http://www.dlapiper.com/us/careers/summer/results2006hiring/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6360308)





Date: August 2nd, 2006 11:13 AM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

Greenberg breakdown (WITH PICTURES): http://www.gtlaw.com/recruiting/summer/2006/scoop.asp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6360349)





Date: August 2nd, 2006 4:19 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

...covington summers, where are you...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6363018)





Date: August 5th, 2006 12:37 PM
Author: Stimulating duck-like private investor chapel

All Vinson now available: http://lawfirmaddict.blogspot.com/2006/02/vault-51-vinson-elkins-llp.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=463618&forum_id=2#6382590)