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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:51 PM Author: domesticated tan feces locale At issue is the city of Philadelphia's decision to stop referring children in need of foster care to Catholic Social Services, for decades one of its most reliable contract agencies, after discovering that it would not place kids with same-sex couples. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236247) |
Date: November 1st, 2020 4:53 PM Author: green razzle market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236255) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:55 PM Author: Poppy Halford Digit Ratio LJL why the fuck would they want to put kids with same-sex couple? Faggots are mentally ill and will molest those children. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236268) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:56 PM Author: green razzle market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236271) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:12 PM Author: Pearl bonkers whorehouse lol that would be 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242895) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:14 PM Author: comical violet degenerate school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242907) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:12 PM Author: Pearl bonkers whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242890) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:12 PM Author: Pontificating glittery theater stage water buffalo Once you realize that outcome is actually what the libs want... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242896) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:57 PM Author: Lemon son of senegal step-uncle's house ACB will 'find a way' to side with faggotry and BLM, while also being 'pro-business' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236285) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:58 PM Author: green razzle market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236291) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:35 PM Author: Razzmatazz fantasy-prone address (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239160) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:35 PM Author: onyx cheese-eating theater community account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239164) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:36 PM Author: Painfully Honest Trailer Park Windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239170) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:39 PM Author: orchid library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239183) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:25 AM Author: ungodly opaque hospital sex offender odd case (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239920) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:54 AM Author: Frisky garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239969) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:14 PM Author: comical violet degenerate school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242914) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:36 PM Author: Painfully Honest Trailer Park Windowlicker State is engaging in religious and/or content based free speech infringement obviously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239173) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:41 PM Author: domesticated tan feces locale Looks like most recent cases point in this direction
Isn’t there still a tension between restricting and enabling speech though? |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:43 PM Author: Painfully Honest Trailer Park Windowlicker Not a conlaw masterman. But this is literally a catholic charity and ACB is devout and may have even used Catholic adoption services lol. Libs are done here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239195) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:43 PM Author: domesticated tan feces locale lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239196) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:24 AM Author: ruby motley genital piercing chapel lmao @ libs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239865) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:31 AM Author: canary hairless theatre main people How is at all free speech relevant? I guess literally everything infringes on speech if you define it that broadly
Based on the op, it sounds like a free exercise question. I dunno but I guess the city will probably win, right? It’s not like the church must place children in order to practice its faith. |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:38 PM Author: cocky sticky kitty cat The constitution doesn't protect Hate Religions hth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239181) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:44 PM Author: Painfully Honest Trailer Park Windowlicker Just part of continuing effort by woke left to push all non conforming religion out of public life. Hope SCOTUS draws a clear line here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239202) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:46 PM Author: domesticated tan feces locale Gonna be a real good one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239211) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:26 AM Author: ruby motley genital piercing chapel this effort is not going to stop. Leftist law profs have already started arguing that the 1A only protects beliefs (ie, things you feel inside your heart) and doesn't protect actions or words. they are teaching this to their 1ls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239868) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:32 AM Author: vigorous bull headed wagecucks point I dunno, man. I think "exercise" pretty clearly refers to more than internal states, which don't require or even benefit from any sort of legal protection. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239875) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:50 AM Author: ruby motley genital piercing chapel that's fine but you are not a law professor
this woman is https://verdict.justia.com/author/hamilton |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:18 AM Author: Histrionic Chestnut Gunner *unless you are Muslim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239911) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:46 PM Author: Supple public bath ACLU has an interesting spin:
On November 4, the Supreme Court will hear a case that could allow private agencies that receive taxpayer-funding to provide government services — such as foster care providers, food banks, homeless shelters, and more — to deny services to people who are LGBTQ, Jewish, Muslim, or Mormon. |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:48 PM Author: domesticated tan feces locale If the service is couched as being for parents. Not sure it’s an either or but it’s certainly wrong to say it’s simply a denial of service to the parent when the child is no less (and likely more so) the beneficiary
Seems like the question becomes whether the church is protected in its judgment that gays don’t make proper parents given that the government, who is funding the operation, would be prohibited from doing that. |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:50 PM Author: Painfully Honest Trailer Park Windowlicker Lol at Jewish and Mormon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239222) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:51 PM Author: bronze hilarious marketing idea Personally I don't think government should be in the service of providing people with kids (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239226) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:52 PM Author: Painfully Honest Trailer Park Windowlicker State gets involved because of CPS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239232) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:05 AM Author: bronze hilarious marketing idea That's a service for children, not parents (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239287) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:06 AM Author: Painfully Honest Trailer Park Windowlicker I would think the CPS mechanism is how children get taken from parents and brought into the foster system (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239292) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:03 AM Author: Avocado Big-titted Goyim Is the church making the argument that they're entitled to provide this service and provide in a way they deem appropriate?
sounds kooky. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:04 AM Author: Painfully Honest Trailer Park Windowlicker Totally kooky for a church to provide a service while practicing its religion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239285) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:07 AM Author: Avocado Big-titted Goyim i understand them wanting to do that, but i can understand the state saying no thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239300) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:08 AM Author: Painfully Honest Trailer Park Windowlicker Lol fag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239305) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:05 AM Author: Carnelian Gaping Patrolman I agree with you, this seems like a policy matter. If Philadelphia decides as a matter of public policy that they want adopted kids to be placed into gay households and the Catholic church won't do it, the church can just not participate. This isn't the gay baker case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239902) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:09 AM Author: ruby motley genital piercing chapel it's not the gay baker case but there's no public policy exemption to religious discrimination cases
all religious discrimination cases are based on some avowed public policy |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:12 AM Author: Carnelian Gaping Patrolman 'religious discrimination' seems like a stretch here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239907) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:15 AM Author: ruby motley genital piercing chapel that's fine, maybe this decision was like an accident and they just whoops! found out later it would happen to have the knock-on effect of shutting down the CC adoption service. or maybe it is just one part of a purposeful lib plan to eventually shut down every Catholic (or Protestant, to the extent they still exist) charity, school, and hospital in the united states through a series of religiously "neutral" rules like this one. Only time will tell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239909) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:15 AM Author: ruby motley genital piercing chapel *puts on tin foil mantilla* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239910) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:25 AM Author: canary hairless theatre main people I’m not even a lawyer anymore, but I can recall a few instances where a governments were found to be violating rights be simply taking away something they never had to give in the first place (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239919) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:22 AM Author: mind-boggling queen of the night party of the first part Seems like another case of religion being specifically targeted. Does Catholic Social Services have an exclusive contract to provide these services? If not then no one is going to be harmed by Catholic Social Services remaining a contractor. If a gay couple wants a kid, they can use a different provider.
This is just like the cake case and the weird fervor a few years ago when libs scoured the country for any food provider who refused to service gay weddings. They’re trying to find any way to fuck over religiously minded merchants. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:25 AM Author: lilac hunting ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239921) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:52 AM Author: Laughsome Pink Gas Station Ratface This is why you know they are being pernicious. There is no risk that a gay couple cannot get a kid from another provider. They just want to crush the Christians. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239965) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 8:15 AM Author: spectacular bearded university dingle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41240043) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:11 PM Author: Histrionic Chestnut Gunner Papists will lose this 7-2. Bump when I'm right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242873) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:24 PM Author: Supple public bath Why not 5-4 with Kav/Roberts siding with libs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41243006) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 5:25 PM Author: Histrionic Chestnut Gunner Because it's not nearly that close a question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41245073) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2020 6:21 AM Author: ruby motley genital piercing chapel not going to happen. Roberts will only vote with libs if it gives libs the win. If it's 7-2 he'll write some smarmy dissent chiding the libs for going to far. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41250133) |