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Major SCOTUS case to watch pits Religious Freedom against Gay Rights

At issue is the city of Philadelphia's decision to stop refe...
razzmatazz pit elastic band
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Razzle Plaza
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LJL why the fuck would they want to put kids with same-sex c...
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Razzle Plaza
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lol that would be 180
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Diverse market doctorate
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Once you realize that outcome is actually what the libs want...
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ACB will 'find a way' to side with faggotry and BLM, while a...
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bateful range feces
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odd case
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Comical Hominid
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State is engaging in religious and/or content based free spe...
embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry
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Looks like most recent cases point in this direction Isn&...
razzmatazz pit elastic band
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Not a conlaw masterman. But this is literally a catholic cha...
embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry
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lol
razzmatazz pit elastic band
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lmao @ libs
chocolate hell french chef
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How is at all free speech relevant? I guess literally everyt...
Avocado mischievous water buffalo
  11/02/20
The constitution doesn't protect Hate Religions hth
Self-centered gas station
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Just part of continuing effort by woke left to push all non ...
embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry
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Gonna be a real good one
razzmatazz pit elastic band
  11/01/20
this effort is not going to stop. Leftist law profs have alr...
chocolate hell french chef
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I dunno, man. I think "exercise" pretty clearly re...
Bespoke excitant dog poop
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that's fine but you are not a law professor this woman is...
chocolate hell french chef
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*unless you are Muslim
kink-friendly irate public bath
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ACLU has an interesting spin: On November 4, the Supreme ...
olive hunting ground
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If the service is couched as being for parents. Not sure it&...
razzmatazz pit elastic band
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Lol at Jewish and Mormon
embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry
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Personally I don't think government should be in the service...
Turquoise giraffe shitlib
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State gets involved because of CPS
embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry
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That's a service for children, not parents
Turquoise giraffe shitlib
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I would think the CPS mechanism is how children get taken fr...
embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry
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Is the church making the argument that they're entitled to p...
jet-lagged lilac institution mediation
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Totally kooky for a church to provide a service while practi...
embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry
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i understand them wanting to do that, but i can understand t...
jet-lagged lilac institution mediation
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Lol fag
embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry
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I agree with you, this seems like a policy matter. If Philad...
Adventurous Filthy Becky Resort
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it's not the gay baker case but there's no public policy exe...
chocolate hell french chef
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'religious discrimination' seems like a stretch here
Adventurous Filthy Becky Resort
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that's fine, maybe this decision was like an accident and th...
chocolate hell french chef
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*puts on tin foil mantilla*
chocolate hell french chef
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I’m not even a lawyer anymore, but I can recall a few ...
Avocado mischievous water buffalo
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Seems like another case of religion being specifically targe...
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This is why you know they are being pernicious. There is no ...
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Papists will lose this 7-2. Bump when I'm right.
kink-friendly irate public bath
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Why not 5-4 with Kav/Roberts siding with libs
olive hunting ground
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Because it's not nearly that close a question.
kink-friendly irate public bath
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not going to happen. Roberts will only vote with libs if it ...
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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:51 PM
Author: razzmatazz pit elastic band

At issue is the city of Philadelphia's decision to stop referring children in need of foster care to Catholic Social Services, for decades one of its most reliable contract agencies, after discovering that it would not place kids with same-sex couples.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236247)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:53 PM
Author: Razzle Plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236255)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:55 PM
Author: Disrespectful arousing azn black woman

LJL why the fuck would they want to put kids with same-sex couple? Faggots are mentally ill and will molest those children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236268)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:56 PM
Author: Razzle Plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236271)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:12 PM
Author: Diverse market doctorate

lol that would be 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242895)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:14 PM
Author: Comical Hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242907)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:12 PM
Author: Diverse market doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242890)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:12 PM
Author: Insane lemon travel guidebook

Once you realize that outcome is actually what the libs want...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242896)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:57 PM
Author: Ultramarine cuck temple

ACB will 'find a way' to side with faggotry and BLM, while also being 'pro-business'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236285)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:58 PM
Author: Razzle Plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236291)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:35 PM
Author: concupiscible stead skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239160)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:35 PM
Author: Exhilarant startling forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239164)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:36 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239170)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:39 PM
Author: bateful range feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239183)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:25 AM
Author: boyish hissy fit

odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239920)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:54 AM
Author: naked irradiated telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239969)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:14 PM
Author: Comical Hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242914)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:36 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry

State is engaging in religious and/or content based free speech infringement obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239173)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:41 PM
Author: razzmatazz pit elastic band

Looks like most recent cases point in this direction

Isn’t there still a tension between restricting and enabling speech though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239192)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:43 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry

Not a conlaw masterman. But this is literally a catholic charity and ACB is devout and may have even used Catholic adoption services lol. Libs are done here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239195)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:43 PM
Author: razzmatazz pit elastic band

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239196)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:24 AM
Author: chocolate hell french chef

lmao @ libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239865)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:31 AM
Author: Avocado mischievous water buffalo

How is at all free speech relevant? I guess literally everything infringes on speech if you define it that broadly

Based on the op, it sounds like a free exercise question. I dunno but I guess the city will probably win, right? It’s not like the church must place children in order to practice its faith.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239874)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:38 PM
Author: Self-centered gas station

The constitution doesn't protect Hate Religions hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239181)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:44 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry

Just part of continuing effort by woke left to push all non conforming religion out of public life. Hope SCOTUS draws a clear line here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239202)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:46 PM
Author: razzmatazz pit elastic band

Gonna be a real good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239211)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:26 AM
Author: chocolate hell french chef

this effort is not going to stop. Leftist law profs have already started arguing that the 1A only protects beliefs (ie, things you feel inside your heart) and doesn't protect actions or words. they are teaching this to their 1ls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239868)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:32 AM
Author: Bespoke excitant dog poop

I dunno, man. I think "exercise" pretty clearly refers to more than internal states, which don't require or even benefit from any sort of legal protection.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239875)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:50 AM
Author: chocolate hell french chef

that's fine but you are not a law professor

this woman is

https://verdict.justia.com/author/hamilton

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239892)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:18 AM
Author: kink-friendly irate public bath

*unless you are Muslim

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239911)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:46 PM
Author: olive hunting ground

ACLU has an interesting spin:

On November 4, the Supreme Court will hear a case that could allow private agencies that receive taxpayer-funding to provide government services — such as foster care providers, food banks, homeless shelters, and more — to deny services to people who are LGBTQ, Jewish, Muslim, or Mormon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239210)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:48 PM
Author: razzmatazz pit elastic band

If the service is couched as being for parents. Not sure it’s an either or but it’s certainly wrong to say it’s simply a denial of service to the parent when the child is no less (and likely more so) the beneficiary

Seems like the question becomes whether the church is protected in its judgment that gays don’t make proper parents given that the government, who is funding the operation, would be prohibited from doing that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239214)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:50 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry

Lol at Jewish and Mormon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239222)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:51 PM
Author: Turquoise giraffe shitlib

Personally I don't think government should be in the service of providing people with kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239226)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:52 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry

State gets involved because of CPS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239232)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:05 AM
Author: Turquoise giraffe shitlib

That's a service for children, not parents

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239287)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:06 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry

I would think the CPS mechanism is how children get taken from parents and brought into the foster system

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239292)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:03 AM
Author: jet-lagged lilac institution mediation

Is the church making the argument that they're entitled to provide this service and provide in a way they deem appropriate?

sounds kooky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239284)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:04 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry

Totally kooky for a church to provide a service while practicing its religion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239285)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:07 AM
Author: jet-lagged lilac institution mediation

i understand them wanting to do that, but i can understand the state saying no thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239300)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:08 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone aromatic theatre cuckoldry

Lol fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239305)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:05 AM
Author: Adventurous Filthy Becky Resort

I agree with you, this seems like a policy matter. If Philadelphia decides as a matter of public policy that they want adopted kids to be placed into gay households and the Catholic church won't do it, the church can just not participate. This isn't the gay baker case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239902)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:09 AM
Author: chocolate hell french chef

it's not the gay baker case but there's no public policy exemption to religious discrimination cases

all religious discrimination cases are based on some avowed public policy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239904)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:12 AM
Author: Adventurous Filthy Becky Resort

'religious discrimination' seems like a stretch here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239907)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:15 AM
Author: chocolate hell french chef

that's fine, maybe this decision was like an accident and they just whoops! found out later it would happen to have the knock-on effect of shutting down the CC adoption service. or maybe it is just one part of a purposeful lib plan to eventually shut down every Catholic (or Protestant, to the extent they still exist) charity, school, and hospital in the united states through a series of religiously "neutral" rules like this one. Only time will tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239909)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:15 AM
Author: chocolate hell french chef

*puts on tin foil mantilla*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239910)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:25 AM
Author: Avocado mischievous water buffalo

I’m not even a lawyer anymore, but I can recall a few instances where a governments were found to be violating rights be simply taking away something they never had to give in the first place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239919)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:22 AM
Author: Talented Federal Hall Lettuce

Seems like another case of religion being specifically targeted. Does Catholic Social Services have an exclusive contract to provide these services? If not then no one is going to be harmed by Catholic Social Services remaining a contractor. If a gay couple wants a kid, they can use a different provider.

This is just like the cake case and the weird fervor a few years ago when libs scoured the country for any food provider who refused to service gay weddings. They’re trying to find any way to fuck over religiously minded merchants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239915)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:25 AM
Author: Useless masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239921)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:52 AM
Author: Exciting effete site

This is why you know they are being pernicious. There is no risk that a gay couple cannot get a kid from another provider. They just want to crush the Christians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239965)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 8:15 AM
Author: deep anal corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41240043)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:11 PM
Author: kink-friendly irate public bath

Papists will lose this 7-2. Bump when I'm right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242873)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:24 PM
Author: olive hunting ground

Why not 5-4 with Kav/Roberts siding with libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41243006)



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Date: November 2nd, 2020 5:25 PM
Author: kink-friendly irate public bath

Because it's not nearly that close a question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41245073)



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Date: November 3rd, 2020 6:21 AM
Author: chocolate hell french chef

not going to happen. Roberts will only vote with libs if it gives libs the win. If it's 7-2 he'll write some smarmy dissent chiding the libs for going to far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41250133)