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Major SCOTUS case to watch pits Religious Freedom against Gay Rights
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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:51 PM Author: overrated laser beams stage At issue is the city of Philadelphia's decision to stop referring children in need of foster care to Catholic Social Services, for decades one of its most reliable contract agencies, after discovering that it would not place kids with same-sex couples. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236247) |
Date: November 1st, 2020 4:53 PM Author: brindle dashing toilet seat library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236255) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:55 PM Author: Useless Swashbuckling Macaca LJL why the fuck would they want to put kids with same-sex couple? Faggots are mentally ill and will molest those children. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236268) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:56 PM Author: brindle dashing toilet seat library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236271) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:12 PM Author: Hairless Quadroon lol that would be 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242895) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:14 PM Author: Underhanded sickened messiness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242907) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:12 PM Author: Hairless Quadroon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242890) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:12 PM Author: Lavender Appetizing Weed Whacker Once you realize that outcome is actually what the libs want... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242896) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:57 PM Author: sexy fear-inspiring senate ACB will 'find a way' to side with faggotry and BLM, while also being 'pro-business' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236285) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:58 PM Author: brindle dashing toilet seat library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41236291) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:35 PM Author: demanding locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239160) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:35 PM Author: Lascivious Fortuitous Meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239164) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:36 PM Author: bistre state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239170) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:39 PM Author: Effete genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239183) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:25 AM Author: Startled mind-boggling background story odd case (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239920) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:54 AM Author: stimulating crystalline den sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239969) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:14 PM Author: Underhanded sickened messiness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242914) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:36 PM Author: bistre state State is engaging in religious and/or content based free speech infringement obviously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239173) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:41 PM Author: overrated laser beams stage Looks like most recent cases point in this direction
Isn’t there still a tension between restricting and enabling speech though? |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:43 PM Author: bistre state Not a conlaw masterman. But this is literally a catholic charity and ACB is devout and may have even used Catholic adoption services lol. Libs are done here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239195) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:43 PM Author: overrated laser beams stage lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239196) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:24 AM Author: aromatic stead dragon lmao @ libs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239865) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:31 AM Author: Cobalt location How is at all free speech relevant? I guess literally everything infringes on speech if you define it that broadly
Based on the op, it sounds like a free exercise question. I dunno but I guess the city will probably win, right? It’s not like the church must place children in order to practice its faith. |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:38 PM Author: Disturbing Pervert The constitution doesn't protect Hate Religions hth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239181) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:44 PM Author: bistre state Just part of continuing effort by woke left to push all non conforming religion out of public life. Hope SCOTUS draws a clear line here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239202) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:46 PM Author: overrated laser beams stage Gonna be a real good one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239211) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:26 AM Author: aromatic stead dragon this effort is not going to stop. Leftist law profs have already started arguing that the 1A only protects beliefs (ie, things you feel inside your heart) and doesn't protect actions or words. they are teaching this to their 1ls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239868) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:32 AM Author: Laughsome orchestra pit I dunno, man. I think "exercise" pretty clearly refers to more than internal states, which don't require or even benefit from any sort of legal protection. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239875) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 6:50 AM Author: aromatic stead dragon that's fine but you are not a law professor
this woman is https://verdict.justia.com/author/hamilton |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:18 AM Author: at-the-ready snowy trailer park *unless you are Muslim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239911) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:46 PM Author: beady-eyed khaki national security agency sound barrier ACLU has an interesting spin:
On November 4, the Supreme Court will hear a case that could allow private agencies that receive taxpayer-funding to provide government services — such as foster care providers, food banks, homeless shelters, and more — to deny services to people who are LGBTQ, Jewish, Muslim, or Mormon. |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:48 PM Author: overrated laser beams stage If the service is couched as being for parents. Not sure it’s an either or but it’s certainly wrong to say it’s simply a denial of service to the parent when the child is no less (and likely more so) the beneficiary
Seems like the question becomes whether the church is protected in its judgment that gays don’t make proper parents given that the government, who is funding the operation, would be prohibited from doing that. |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:50 PM Author: bistre state Lol at Jewish and Mormon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239222) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:51 PM Author: Titillating abode Personally I don't think government should be in the service of providing people with kids (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239226) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 11:52 PM Author: bistre state State gets involved because of CPS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239232) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:05 AM Author: Titillating abode That's a service for children, not parents (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239287) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:06 AM Author: bistre state I would think the CPS mechanism is how children get taken from parents and brought into the foster system (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239292) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:03 AM Author: concupiscible tan nursing home Is the church making the argument that they're entitled to provide this service and provide in a way they deem appropriate?
sounds kooky. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:04 AM Author: bistre state Totally kooky for a church to provide a service while practicing its religion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239285) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:07 AM Author: concupiscible tan nursing home i understand them wanting to do that, but i can understand the state saying no thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239300) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 12:08 AM Author: bistre state Lol fag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239305) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:05 AM Author: Apoplectic spruce address I agree with you, this seems like a policy matter. If Philadelphia decides as a matter of public policy that they want adopted kids to be placed into gay households and the Catholic church won't do it, the church can just not participate. This isn't the gay baker case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239902) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:09 AM Author: aromatic stead dragon it's not the gay baker case but there's no public policy exemption to religious discrimination cases
all religious discrimination cases are based on some avowed public policy |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:12 AM Author: Apoplectic spruce address 'religious discrimination' seems like a stretch here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239907) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:15 AM Author: aromatic stead dragon that's fine, maybe this decision was like an accident and they just whoops! found out later it would happen to have the knock-on effect of shutting down the CC adoption service. or maybe it is just one part of a purposeful lib plan to eventually shut down every Catholic (or Protestant, to the extent they still exist) charity, school, and hospital in the united states through a series of religiously "neutral" rules like this one. Only time will tell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239909) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:15 AM Author: aromatic stead dragon *puts on tin foil mantilla* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239910) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:25 AM Author: Cobalt location I’m not even a lawyer anymore, but I can recall a few instances where a governments were found to be violating rights be simply taking away something they never had to give in the first place (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239919) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:22 AM Author: Black Domesticated Cumskin Seems like another case of religion being specifically targeted. Does Catholic Social Services have an exclusive contract to provide these services? If not then no one is going to be harmed by Catholic Social Services remaining a contractor. If a gay couple wants a kid, they can use a different provider.
This is just like the cake case and the weird fervor a few years ago when libs scoured the country for any food provider who refused to service gay weddings. They’re trying to find any way to fuck over religiously minded merchants. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:25 AM Author: walnut embarrassed to the bone old irish cottage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239921) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 7:52 AM Author: pungent resort This is why you know they are being pernicious. There is no risk that a gay couple cannot get a kid from another provider. They just want to crush the Christians. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41239965) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 8:15 AM Author: Henna French Chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41240043) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:11 PM Author: at-the-ready snowy trailer park Papists will lose this 7-2. Bump when I'm right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41242873) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 2:24 PM Author: beady-eyed khaki national security agency sound barrier Why not 5-4 with Kav/Roberts siding with libs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41243006) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 5:25 PM Author: at-the-ready snowy trailer park Because it's not nearly that close a question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41245073) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2020 6:21 AM Author: aromatic stead dragon not going to happen. Roberts will only vote with libs if it gives libs the win. If it's 7-2 he'll write some smarmy dissent chiding the libs for going to far. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4668778&forum_id=2#41250133) |