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Date: August 2nd, 2006 11:46 PM Author: coral area You can visit http://lawfirmaddict.blogspot.com to see which firms have reported what data. This thread will walk through statistics for placement in various regions. I don't care of the stats are poor because of low reporting in some areas, because if people cared about their firms, they'd have given the data. Therefore, those firms and their schools are TTTs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6365733) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2006 3:41 PM Author: Buff Diverse School When is this site going to be updated for 2007? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6907479) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2006 4:21 PM Author: coral area The first results started trickling in mid-February 15. Probably about then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6907704) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2006 4:36 PM Author: Buff Diverse School Cool, thanks.
Lawfirmaddict is a very useful site. |
Date: August 2nd, 2006 11:49 PM Author: coral area Subject: Overall Statistics Placement in the Vault 100 4 Columbia 77.5% 3 Harvard 70.6% 6 Chicago 69.3% 1 Yale 63.8% 2 Stanford 63.6% 4 NYU 60.7% 11 Duke 53.3% 12 Northwestern 51.4% 7 Penn 48.1% 13 Cornell 42.0% 8 Michigan 39.6% 8 Virginia 39.3% 14 Georgetown 33.2% 8 Boalt 27.3% 16 Texas 24.2% 15 UCLA 19.9% 27 Illinois 19.1% 17 Vanderbilt 18.5% 17 USC 17.9% 22 Notre Dame 17.7% 32 Fordham 15.3% 70 Houston 11.9% TTT Howard 11.9% 18 GWU 11.8% 22 Boston U 11.2% 39 Wake Forest 11.0% 27 Boston College 10.9% 26 Emory 8.9% 19 WUSTL 8.6% 34 BYU 8.5% 27 Washington 8.3% 39 Ohio State 7.8% 43 Hastings 7.4% 27 North Carolina 7.4% 22 Iowa 7.1% 51 Case Western 6.7% 32 Wisconsin 6.6% 37 Indiana 6.1% 53 Cardozo 5.8% 65 Rutgers 5.6% 70 Loyola 5.0% 43 Tulane 5.0% 43 American 5.0% 27 W&M 4.9% 19 Minnesota 4.8% 34 Davis 4.6% 43 SMU 4.5% 22 W&L 4.4% 34 Georgia 4.3% 58 Brooklyn 4.2% 50 UConn 4.0% 43 Arizona 4.0% 80 St. John's 3.7% 80 DePaul 3.6% 41 Florida 3.5% 87 Pepperdine 3.3% TTT Albany 3.2% 60 Tennessee 3.2% TTT NY Law 3.0% 80 Richmond 2.9% 60 Kent 2.7% 43 Alabama 2.5% 60 Pittsburgh 2.5% 70 Seton Hall 2.5% TTT Catholic 2.4% 42 Maryland 2.3% 37 George Mason 2.3% TTT Pace 2.3% 87 LSU 2.3% 97 Georgia State 2.3% 60 Missouri 2.0% 87 Mercer 1.9% 87 Santa Clara 1.9% TTT Texas Tech 1.9% TTT Hofstra 1.8% 43 Colorado 1.8% TTT Akron 1.6% 60 Villanova 1.6% 80 Buffalo 1.6% 51 Baylor 1.6% 53 Arizona State 1.6% FTT Valparaiso 1.5% 53 Cincinnati 1.5% TTT Syracuse 1.5% 87 Dickinson 1.5% 65 Loyola CA 1.5% 87 Northeastern 1.4% 65 Miami 1.2% FTT Southern 1.2% 80 Oklahoma 1.1% 65 San Diego 1.1% FTT Detroit Mercy 1.1% FTT Suffolk 1.1% TTT Duquesne 1.0% 58 Temple 0.9% FTT John Marshall 0.9% TTT Southwestern 0.9% FTT Ohio Northern 0.9% TTT Cleveland State 0.8% 77 New Mexico 0.8% 93 Seattle 0.8% FTT William Mitchell 0.8% 57 Utah 0.8% NA Charleston 0.7% FTT Michigan State 0.7% FTT South Texas 0.7% TTT UNLV 0.7% FTT West Virginia 0.7% 70 Kansas 0.6% FTT Golden Gate 0.6% 65 Kentucky 0.6% TTT Stetson 0.6% 93 Toledo 0.6% 70 Oregon 0.6% 97 Mississippi 0.5% FTT Chapman 0.5% TTT Vermont 0.5% FTT North Carolina Central 0.5% FTT Texas Southern 0.4% 80 Rutgers Newark 0.4% FTT Capital 0.4% 93 San Francisco 0.4% FTT St. Mary's 0.4% 77 Indianapolis 0.4% 53 Florida State 0.4% FTT Touro 0.3% FTT Baltimore 0.3% 97 McGeorge 0.3% 70 Denver 0.3% FTT New England 0.3% FTT Weidner 0.2%
***NUMBERS*** 3 Harvard 393 4 Columbia 293 4 NYU 272 14 Georgetown 194 8 Virginia 147 8 Michigan 145 6 Chicago 133 1 Yale 127 12 Northwestern 125 7 Penn 117 2 Stanford 110 16 Texas 107 11 Duke 106 13 Cornell 81 32 Fordham 74 8 Boalt 72 18 GWU 63 15 UCLA 63 70 Houston 38 17 USC 37 17 Vanderbilt 37 27 Illinois 36 22 Boston U 33 43 Hastings 31 22 Notre Dame 31 27 Boston College 30 43 American 23 58 Brooklyn 21 53 Cardozo 21 26 Emory 21 TTT Howard 19 19 WUSTL 19 32 Wisconsin 18 27 North Carolina 17 39 Ohio State 17 39 Wake Forest 17 22 Iowa 16 TTT NY Law 16 51 Case Western 15 41 Florida 15 43 Tulane 15 27 Washington 15 37 Indiana 14 65 Rutgers 14 34 BYU 13 70 Loyola 13 19 Minnesota 13 43 SMU 13 80 DePaul 12 80 St. John's 12 27 W&M 10 34 Davis 9 34 Georgia 9 60 Kent 9 70 Seton Hall 9 TTT Albany 8 TTT Catholic 8 87 Pepperdine 8 50 UConn 8 TTT Hofstra 7 43 Arizona 6 65 Loyola CA 6 42 Maryland 6 TTT Pace 6 60 Pittsburgh 6 87 Santa Clara 6 FTT Suffolk 6 22 W&L 6 37 George Mason 5 97 Georgia State 5 FTT John Marshall 5 87 LSU 5 65 Miami 5 80 Richmond 5 60 Tennessee 5 TTT Texas Tech 5 43 Alabama 4 53 Arizona State 4 80 Buffalo 4 65 San Diego 4 TTT Syracuse 4 60 Villanova 4 TTT Akron 3 51 Baylor 3 43 Colorado 3 FTT Detroit Mercy 3 87 Dickinson 3 87 Mercer 3 60 Missouri 3 87 Northeastern 3 93 Seattle 3 FTT South Texas 3 TTT Southwestern 3 58 Temple 3 FTT Valparaiso 3 FTT William Mitchell 3 53 Cincinnati 2 TTT Cleveland State 2 TTT Duquesne 2 FTT Golden Gate 2 FTT Michigan State 2 80 Oklahoma 2 FTT Southern 2 TTT Stetson 2 FTT Baltimore 1 FTT Capital 1 FTT Chapman 1 NA Charleston 1 70 Denver 1 53 Florida State 1 77 Indianapolis 1 70 Kansas 1 65 Kentucky 1 97 McGeorge 1 97 Mississippi 1 FTT New England 1 77 New Mexico 1 FTT North Carolina Central 1 FTT Ohio Northern 1 70 Oregon 1 80 Rutgers Newark 1 93 San Francisco 1 FTT St. Mary's 1 FTT Texas Southern 1 93 Toledo 1 FTT Touro 1 TTT UNLV 1 57 Utah 1 TTT Vermont 1 FTT Weidner 1 FTT West Virginia 1
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Date: August 2nd, 2006 11:50 PM Author: Laughsome theater CLS! CLS! CLS! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6365773) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 1:31 AM Author: Thriller big-titted round eye psychic From now on, CHCYSN is the credited acronym. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6366599) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:59 PM Author: Olive corner that is an initialism, not an acronym (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6368710) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 1:10 PM Author: ocher impressive hell 0 stars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6368801) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2006 11:57 PM Author: coral area Subject: New York, NY 4 Columbia 56.1% 4 NYU 46.2% 1 Yale 34.7% 3 Harvard 30.3% 7 Penn 25.5% 13 Cornell 24.4% 6 Chicago 22.9% 2 Stanford 22.0% 11 Duke 19.6% 8 Virginia 13.9% 32 Fordham 13.0% 8 Michigan 12.6% 14 Georgetown 12.5% 12 Northwestern 11.5% 8 Boalt 8.0% 17 Vanderbilt 5.5% 53 Cardozo 5.2% 65 Rutgers 4.4% TTT Howard 4.4% 58 Brooklyn 4.2% 22 Notre Dame 4.0% 22 Boston U 3.7% 19 WUSTL 3.6% 80 St. John's 3.4% 27 Boston College 3.3% 16 Texas 3.2% 15 UCLA 3.2% 50 UConn 3.0% 18 GWU 2.8% TTT NY Law 2.8% 51 Case Western 2.7% TTT Albany 2.4% 43 Tulane 2.3% 26 Emory 2.1% 34 BYU 2.0% 22 Iowa 1.8% 27 Washington 1.7% 80 Buffalo 1.6% TTT Hofstra 1.6% TTT Pace 1.5% TTT Syracuse 1.5% 32 Wisconsin 1.5% 22 W&L 1.5% 17 USC 1.4% 39 Ohio State 1.4% 70 Seton Hall 1.4% 27 North Carolina 1.3% 39 Wake Forest 1.3% 43 Colorado 1.2% 27 W&M 1.0% 43 American 0.6% 65 Kentucky 0.6% 27 Illinois 0.5% FTT North Carolina Central 0.5% 87 Dickinson 0.5% 43 Hastings 0.5% 87 Northeastern 0.5% 87 Pepperdine 0.4% 60 Pittsburgh 0.4% 19 Minnesota 0.4% FTT Michigan State 0.4% FTT Touro 0.3% 70 Denver 0.3% 41 Florida 0.2% FTT Suffolk 0.2% ***NUMBERS*** 4 Columbia 212 4 NYU 207 3 Harvard 169 14 Georgetown 73 1 Yale 69 32 Fordham 63 7 Penn 62 8 Virginia 52 13 Cornell 47 8 Michigan 46 6 Chicago 44 11 Duke 39 2 Stanford 38 12 Northwestern 28 8 Boalt 21 58 Brooklyn 21 53 Cardozo 19 18 GWU 15 TTT NY Law 15 16 Texas 14 22 Boston U 11 65 Rutgers 11 80 St. John's 11 17 Vanderbilt 11 15 UCLA 10 27 Boston College 9 19 WUSTL 8 TTT Howard 7 22 Notre Dame 7 43 Tulane 7 TTT Albany 6 51 Case Western 6 TTT Hofstra 6 50 UConn 6 26 Emory 5 70 Seton Hall 5 80 Buffalo 4 22 Iowa 4 TTT Pace 4 TTT Syracuse 4 32 Wisconsin 4 43 American 3 34 BYU 3 27 North Carolina 3 39 Ohio State 3 17 USC 3 27 Washington 3 43 Colorado 2 43 Hastings 2 22 W&L 2 27 W&M 2 39 Wake Forest 2 70 Denver 1 87 Dickinson 1 41 Florida 1 27 Illinois 1 65 Kentucky 1 FTT Michigan State 1 19 Minnesota 1 FTT North Carolina Central 1 87 Northeastern 1 87 Pepperdine 1 60 Pittsburgh 1 FTT Suffolk 1 FTT Touro 1 |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:00 AM Author: coral area Subject: State region: NY and NJ 4 Columbia 56.3% 4 NYU 46.2% 1 Yale 34.7% 3 Harvard 30.5% 7 Penn 26.3% 13 Cornell 24.9% 6 Chicago 22.9% 2 Stanford 22.0% 11 Duke 19.6% 8 Virginia 13.9% 32 Fordham 13.0% 14 Georgetown 12.8% 8 Michigan 12.6% 12 Northwestern 11.5% 8 Boalt 8.0% 17 Vanderbilt 5.5% 53 Cardozo 5.2% 65 Rutgers 4.4% TTT Howard 4.4% 58 Brooklyn 4.2% 22 Notre Dame 4.0% 22 Boston U 3.7% 19 WUSTL 3.6% 80 St. John's 3.4% 27 Boston College 3.3% TTT Albany 3.2% 16 Texas 3.2% 15 UCLA 3.2% 50 UConn 3.0% 18 GWU 2.8% TTT NY Law 2.8% 51 Case Western 2.7% 43 Tulane 2.3% 26 Emory 2.1% 34 BYU 2.0% 70 Seton Hall 1.9% 22 Iowa 1.8% 27 Washington 1.7% 80 Buffalo 1.6% TTT Hofstra 1.6% TTT Pace 1.5% TTT Syracuse 1.5% 32 Wisconsin 1.5% 22 W&L 1.5% 17 USC 1.4% 39 Ohio State 1.4% 27 North Carolina 1.3% 39 Wake Forest 1.3% 43 Colorado 1.2% 27 W&M 1.0% 43 American 0.6% 65 Kentucky 0.6% 27 Illinois 0.5% FTT North Carolina Central 0.5% 87 Dickinson 0.5% 43 Hastings 0.5% 87 Northeastern 0.5% 87 Pepperdine 0.4% 60 Pittsburgh 0.4% 80 Rutgers Newark 0.4% 70 Loyola 0.4% 19 Minnesota 0.4% FTT Michigan State 0.4% FTT Touro 0.3% 70 Denver 0.3% 41 Florida 0.2% FTT Suffolk 0.2% ***NUMBERS*** 4 Columbia 213 4 NYU 207 3 Harvard 170 14 Georgetown 75 1 Yale 69 7 Penn 64 32 Fordham 63 8 Virginia 52 13 Cornell 48 8 Michigan 46 6 Chicago 44 11 Duke 39 2 Stanford 38 12 Northwestern 28 8 Boalt 21 58 Brooklyn 21 53 Cardozo 19 18 GWU 15 TTT NY Law 15 16 Texas 14 22 Boston U 11 65 Rutgers 11 80 St. John's 11 17 Vanderbilt 11 15 UCLA 10 27 Boston College 9 TTT Albany 8 19 WUSTL 8 TTT Howard 7 22 Notre Dame 7 70 Seton Hall 7 43 Tulane 7 51 Case Western 6 TTT Hofstra 6 50 UConn 6 26 Emory 5 80 Buffalo 4 22 Iowa 4 TTT Pace 4 TTT Syracuse 4 32 Wisconsin 4 43 American 3 34 BYU 3 27 North Carolina 3 39 Ohio State 3 17 USC 3 27 Washington 3 43 Colorado 2 43 Hastings 2 22 W&L 2 27 W&M 2 39 Wake Forest 2 70 Denver 1 87 Dickinson 1 41 Florida 1 27 Illinois 1 65 Kentucky 1 70 Loyola 1 FTT Michigan State 1 19 Minnesota 1 FTT North Carolina Central 1 87 Northeastern 1 87 Pepperdine 1 60 Pittsburgh 1 80 Rutgers Newark 1 FTT Suffolk 1 FTT Touro 1 |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:01 AM Author: coral area Subject: Chicago, IL 12 Northwestern 29.6% 6 Chicago 27.6% 27 Illinois 16.5% 8 Michigan 8.7% 22 Notre Dame 8.6% 3 Harvard 5.4% 37 Indiana 4.8% 32 Wisconsin 3.7% 22 Iowa 3.6% 17 Vanderbilt 3.5% 2 Stanford 3.5% 80 DePaul 3.3% 19 WUSTL 3.2% 70 Loyola 3.1% 11 Duke 3.0% 1 Yale 3.0% 60 Kent 2.7% 7 Penn 2.5% 8 Virginia 2.1% 60 Missouri 2.0% 34 BYU 2.0% 22 W&L 1.5% 14 Georgetown 1.4% FTT Southern 1.2% 8 Boalt 1.1% 4 NYU 1.1% 19 Minnesota 1.1% 4 Columbia 1.1% 13 Cornell 1.0% FTT Valparaiso 1.0% 27 W&M 1.0% 39 Ohio State 0.9% 57 Utah 0.8% FTT John Marshall 0.7% NA Charleston 0.7% 22 Boston U 0.7% 16 Texas 0.7% 39 Wake Forest 0.6% 60 Tennessee 0.6% 15 UCLA 0.6% 70 Houston 0.6% 27 North Carolina 0.4% 60 Pittsburgh 0.4% FTT Detroit Mercy 0.4% 77 Indianapolis 0.4% 43 Tulane 0.3% 65 Miami 0.2% 43 Hastings 0.2% 41 Florida 0.2% 43 American 0.2% 18 GWU 0.2% ***NUMBERS*** USNWR School CHI 12 Northwestern 72 6 Chicago 53 8 Michigan 32 27 Illinois 31 3 Harvard 30 22 Notre Dame 15 80 DePaul 11 37 Indiana 11 32 Wisconsin 10 60 Kent 9 14 Georgetown 8 22 Iowa 8 70 Loyola 8 8 Virginia 8 17 Vanderbilt 7 19 WUSTL 7 11 Duke 6 7 Penn 6 2 Stanford 6 1 Yale 6 4 NYU 5 4 Columbia 4 FTT John Marshall 4 8 Boalt 3 34 BYU 3 19 Minnesota 3 60 Missouri 3 16 Texas 3 22 Boston U 2 13 Cornell 2 70 Houston 2 39 Ohio State 2 FTT Southern 2 15 UCLA 2 FTT Valparaiso 2 22 W&L 2 27 W&M 2 43 American 1 NA Charleston 1 FTT Detroit Mercy 1 41 Florida 1 18 GWU 1 43 Hastings 1 77 Indianapolis 1 65 Miami 1 27 North Carolina 1 60 Pittsburgh 1 60 Tennessee 1 43 Tulane 1 57 Utah 1 39 Wake Forest 1 |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:03 AM Author: coral area Subject: Washington, DC 1 Yale 17.1% 2 Stanford 15.6% 3 Harvard 14.2% 11 Duke 11.1% 14 Georgetown 9.9% 8 Virginia 8.6% 6 Chicago 7.3% 18 GWU 7.1% 8 Michigan 4.9% 7 Penn 4.5% 4 Columbia 4.2% TTT Howard 3.8% 43 American 3.2% 13 Cornell 3.1% 17 Vanderbilt 3.0% 4 NYU 2.9% 37 George Mason 2.3% TTT Catholic 2.1% 42 Maryland 1.9% 8 Boalt 1.9% 39 Wake Forest 1.3% 12 Northwestern 1.2% 27 Washington 1.1% 27 Boston College 1.1% 34 Georgia 1.0% 19 WUSTL 0.9% 27 North Carolina 0.9% 26 Emory 0.9% 16 Texas 0.7% 34 BYU 0.7% 43 Alabama 0.6% 70 Kansas 0.6% 58 Temple 0.6% 22 Notre Dame 0.6% 51 Baylor 0.5% 27 Illinois 0.5% TTT Vermont 0.5% 50 UConn 0.5% 27 W&M 0.5% 97 Georgia State 0.5% 60 Pittsburgh 0.4% 32 Wisconsin 0.4% 22 Boston U 0.3% 15 UCLA 0.3% 80 St. John's 0.3% 70 Seton Hall 0.3% 65 Miami 0.2% 32 Fordham 0.2% FTT John Marshall 0.2%
***NUMBERS*** 3 Harvard 79 14 Georgetown 58 18 GWU 38 1 Yale 34 8 Virginia 32 2 Stanford 27 11 Duke 22 8 Michigan 18 4 Columbia 16 43 American 15 6 Chicago 14 4 NYU 13 7 Penn 11 TTT Catholic 7 13 Cornell 6 TTT Howard 6 17 Vanderbilt 6 8 Boalt 5 37 George Mason 5 42 Maryland 5 27 Boston College 3 12 Northwestern 3 16 Texas 3 26 Emory 2 34 Georgia 2 27 North Carolina 2 58 Temple 2 39 Wake Forest 2 27 Washington 2 19 WUSTL 2 43 Alabama 1 51 Baylor 1 22 Boston U 1 34 BYU 1 32 Fordham 1 97 Georgia State 1 27 Illinois 1 FTT John Marshall 1 70 Kansas 1 65 Miami 1 22 Notre Dame 1 60 Pittsburgh 1 70 Seton Hall 1 80 St. John's 1 15 UCLA 1 50 UConn 1 TTT Vermont 1 27 W&M 1 32 Wisconsin 1 |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 1:37 AM Author: Thriller big-titted round eye psychic Hmmm this data is incomplete. For example I know there's at least one Florida student working at a Vault 100 in DC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6366647) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 11:31 AM Author: coral area "if people cared about their firms, they'd have given the data. Therefore, those firms and their schools are TTTs."
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6365733 |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 11:32 AM Author: Thriller big-titted round eye psychic touche (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6368136) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:05 AM Author: coral area Subject: State Region: DC, MD, and VA 1 Yale 17.6% 2 Stanford 15.6% 3 Harvard 14.4% 11 Duke 12.6% 8 Virginia 11.0% 14 Georgetown 10.3% 18 GWU 7.5% 6 Chicago 7.3% 8 Michigan 5.2% 7 Penn 4.9% 17 Vanderbilt 4.5% 4 Columbia 4.2% TTT Howard 3.8% 43 American 3.4% 13 Cornell 3.1% 80 Richmond 2.9% 4 NYU 2.9% 27 W&M 2.4% TTT Catholic 2.4% 42 Maryland 2.3% 37 George Mason 2.3% 39 Wake Forest 1.9% 8 Boalt 1.9% 27 North Carolina 1.7% 12 Northwestern 1.6% 34 BYU 1.3% 22 Notre Dame 1.1% 27 Washington 1.1% 27 Boston College 1.1% 34 Georgia 1.0% 97 Georgia State 0.9% 19 WUSTL 0.9% 26 Emory 0.9% 22 W&L 0.7% 16 Texas 0.7% 43 Alabama 0.6% 70 Kansas 0.6% 58 Temple 0.6% 51 Baylor 0.5% 27 Illinois 0.5% TTT Vermont 0.5% 50 UConn 0.5% 87 Dickinson 0.5% 60 Pittsburgh 0.4% 32 Wisconsin 0.4% 22 Boston U 0.3% 15 UCLA 0.3% FTT Baltimore 0.3% 80 St. John's 0.3% 70 Seton Hall 0.3% 65 Miami 0.2% 41 Florida 0.2% 32 Fordham 0.2% FTT John Marshall 0.2% ***NUMBERS*** 3 Harvard 80 14 Georgetown 60 8 Virginia 41 18 GWU 40 1 Yale 35 2 Stanford 27 11 Duke 25 8 Michigan 19 43 American 16 4 Columbia 16 6 Chicago 14 4 NYU 13 7 Penn 12 17 Vanderbilt 9 TTT Catholic 8 13 Cornell 6 TTT Howard 6 42 Maryland 6 8 Boalt 5 37 George Mason 5 80 Richmond 5 27 W&M 5 27 North Carolina 4 12 Northwestern 4 27 Boston College 3 16 Texas 3 39 Wake Forest 3 34 BYU 2 26 Emory 2 34 Georgia 2 97 Georgia State 2 22 Notre Dame 2 58 Temple 2 27 Washington 2 19 WUSTL 2 43 Alabama 1 FTT Baltimore 1 51 Baylor 1 22 Boston U 1 87 Dickinson 1 41 Florida 1 32 Fordham 1 27 Illinois 1 FTT John Marshall 1 70 Kansas 1 65 Miami 1 60 Pittsburgh 1 70 Seton Hall 1 80 St. John's 1 15 UCLA 1 50 UConn 1 TTT Vermont 1 22 W&L 1 32 Wisconsin 1 |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:07 AM Author: coral area Subject: California 2 Stanford 16.8% 17 USC 15.9% 8 Boalt 15.2% 15 UCLA 14.8% 3 Harvard 8.3% 6 Chicago 6.8% 43 Hastings 6.4% 4 Columbia 6.1% 1 Yale 6.0% 8 Michigan 5.2% 4 NYU 5.1% 7 Penn 4.9% 13 Cornell 4.1% 34 Davis 4.1% 11 Duke 3.5% 8 Virginia 3.5% 43 Arizona 3.3% 12 Northwestern 3.3% 87 Pepperdine 2.5% 14 Georgetown 2.1% 16 Texas 2.0% 34 BYU 2.0% 87 Santa Clara 1.9% 27 Washington 1.7% 70 Loyola 1.5% 65 Loyola CA 1.2% 22 Notre Dame 1.1% 18 GWU 0.9% TTT Southwestern 0.9% 51 Case Western 0.9% 37 Indiana 0.9% 77 New Mexico 0.8% 65 San Diego 0.8% 22 Boston U 0.7% 39 Wake Forest 0.6% TTT Howard 0.6% FTT Golden Gate 0.6% 27 Illinois 0.5% FTT Chapman 0.5% 17 Vanderbilt 0.5% 34 Georgia 0.5% 19 WUSTL 0.5% 26 Emory 0.4% 93 San Francisco 0.4% 19 Minnesota 0.4% 27 Boston College 0.4% 43 Tulane 0.3% 58 Temple 0.3% 80 DePaul 0.3% 97 McGeorge 0.3% 93 Seattle 0.3% 32 Fordham 0.2% ***NUMBERS*** 15 UCLA 47 3 Harvard 46 8 Boalt 40 17 USC 33 2 Stanford 29 43 Hastings 27 4 Columbia 23 4 NYU 23 8 Michigan 19 6 Chicago 13 8 Virginia 13 14 Georgetown 12 7 Penn 12 1 Yale 12 16 Texas 9 13 Cornell 8 34 Davis 8 12 Northwestern 8 11 Duke 7 87 Pepperdine 6 87 Santa Clara 6 43 Arizona 5 18 GWU 5 65 Loyola CA 5 70 Loyola 4 34 BYU 3 65 San Diego 3 TTT Southwestern 3 27 Washington 3 22 Boston U 2 51 Case Western 2 FTT Golden Gate 2 37 Indiana 2 22 Notre Dame 2 27 Boston College 1 FTT Chapman 1 80 DePaul 1 26 Emory 1 32 Fordham 1 34 Georgia 1 TTT Howard 1 27 Illinois 1 97 McGeorge 1 19 Minnesota 1 77 New Mexico 1 93 San Francisco 1 93 Seattle 1 58 Temple 1 43 Tulane 1 17 Vanderbilt 1 39 Wake Forest 1 19 WUSTL 1 |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:09 AM Author: coral area Subject: Region: Northern California Includes San Francisco, Palo Alto, Silicon Valley, Sacramento, and Menlo Park. 8 Boalt 9.1% 2 Stanford 6.9% 43 Hastings 5.0% 34 Davis 3.1% 4 Columbia 2.9% 15 UCLA 2.5% 3 Harvard 2.2% 13 Cornell 2.1% 27 Washington 1.7% 7 Penn 1.6% 8 Michigan 1.6% 87 Santa Clara 1.6% 4 NYU 1.6% 11 Duke 1.5% 1 Yale 1.5% 17 USC 1.4% 12 Northwestern 1.2% 6 Chicago 1.0% 14 Georgetown 0.9% 8 Virginia 0.8% 18 GWU 0.7% 16 Texas 0.7% 43 Arizona 0.7% 34 BYU 0.7% 39 Wake Forest 0.6% FTT Golden Gate 0.6% 22 Notre Dame 0.6% 17 Vanderbilt 0.5% 51 Case Western 0.4% 93 San Francisco 0.4% 19 Minnesota 0.4% 22 Boston U 0.3% 43 Tulane 0.3% 58 Temple 0.3% 97 McGeorge 0.3% 65 Loyola CA 0.2% 32 Fordham 0.2% ***NUMBERS*** USNWR School NCA 8 Boalt 24 43 Hastings 21 3 Harvard 12 2 Stanford 12 4 Columbia 11 15 UCLA 8 4 NYU 7 34 Davis 6 8 Michigan 6 14 Georgetown 5 87 Santa Clara 5 13 Cornell 4 18 GWU 4 7 Penn 4 11 Duke 3 12 Northwestern 3 16 Texas 3 17 USC 3 8 Virginia 3 27 Washington 3 1 Yale 3 6 Chicago 2 FTT Golden Gate 2 43 Arizona 1 22 Boston U 1 34 BYU 1 51 Case Western 1 32 Fordham 1 65 Loyola CA 1 97 McGeorge 1 19 Minnesota 1 22 Notre Dame 1 93 San Francisco 1 58 Temple 1 43 Tulane 1 17 Vanderbilt 1 39 Wake Forest 1 |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:14 PM Author: snowy brunch wrinkle Who knew NoCal could be so different from SoCal... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6368408) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:11 AM Author: coral area Subject: Region: Southern California Includes Los Angeles, Orange County, Irvine, Newport Beach, and San Diego. 17 USC 14.5% 15 UCLA 12.3% 2 Stanford 9.8% 3 Harvard 6.1% 8 Boalt 6.1% 6 Chicago 5.7% 1 Yale 4.5% 4 NYU 3.6% 8 Michigan 3.6% 7 Penn 3.3% 4 Columbia 3.2% 8 Virginia 2.7% 43 Arizona 2.6% 87 Pepperdine 2.5% 13 Cornell 2.1% 12 Northwestern 2.1% 11 Duke 2.0% 70 Loyola 1.5% 43 Hastings 1.4% 16 Texas 1.4% 34 BYU 1.3% 14 Georgetown 1.2% 34 Davis 1.0% 65 Loyola CA 1.0% TTT Southwestern 0.9% 37 Indiana 0.9% 77 New Mexico 0.8% 65 San Diego 0.8% TTT Howard 0.6% 22 Notre Dame 0.6% 27 Illinois 0.5% FTT Chapman 0.5% 34 Georgia 0.5% 19 WUSTL 0.5% 51 Case Western 0.4% 26 Emory 0.4% 27 Boston College 0.4% 22 Boston U 0.3% 87 Santa Clara 0.3% 80 DePaul 0.3% 93 Seattle 0.3% 18 GWU 0.2% ***NUMBERS*** 15 UCLA 39 3 Harvard 34 17 USC 30 2 Stanford 17 8 Boalt 16 4 NYU 16 8 Michigan 13 4 Columbia 12 6 Chicago 11 8 Virginia 10 1 Yale 9 7 Penn 8 14 Georgetown 7 43 Hastings 6 87 Pepperdine 6 16 Texas 6 12 Northwestern 5 43 Arizona 4 13 Cornell 4 11 Duke 4 70 Loyola 4 65 Loyola CA 4 65 San Diego 3 TTT Southwestern 3 34 BYU 2 34 Davis 2 37 Indiana 2 27 Boston College 1 22 Boston U 1 51 Case Western 1 FTT Chapman 1 80 DePaul 1 26 Emory 1 34 Georgia 1 18 GWU 1 TTT Howard 1 27 Illinois 1 77 New Mexico 1 22 Notre Dame 1 87 Santa Clara 1 93 Seattle 1 19 WUSTL 1 |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:12 AM Author: coral area Subject: Texas 16 Texas 16.5% 70 Houston 11.0% 43 SMU 4.5% 2 Stanford 4.0% 8 Virginia 2.7% 13 Cornell 2.6% 3 Harvard 2.5% 87 LSU 2.3% 22 Notre Dame 2.3% 4 Columbia 2.1% 11 Duke 2.0% 8 Michigan 1.9% TTT Texas Tech 1.9% 14 Georgetown 1.7% 43 Tulane 1.7% 4 NYU 1.3% 12 Northwestern 1.2% 80 Oklahoma 1.1% 51 Baylor 1.1% 6 Chicago 1.0% 26 Emory 0.9% 7 Penn 0.8% 22 W&L 0.7% FTT South Texas 0.7% 34 BYU 0.7% TTT Howard 0.6% 27 Washington 0.6% 1 Yale 0.5% 17 Vanderbilt 0.5% 22 Iowa 0.4% 37 Indiana 0.4% FTT Texas Southern 0.4% 87 Pepperdine 0.4% 60 Pittsburgh 0.4% FTT St. Mary's 0.4% 8 Boalt 0.4% 65 Loyola CA 0.2% 41 Florida 0.2%
***NUMBERS*** 16 Texas 73 70 Houston 35 3 Harvard 14 43 SMU 13 14 Georgetown 10 8 Virginia 10 4 Columbia 8 8 Michigan 7 2 Stanford 7 4 NYU 6 13 Cornell 5 87 LSU 5 TTT Texas Tech 5 43 Tulane 5 11 Duke 4 22 Notre Dame 4 12 Northwestern 3 FTT South Texas 3 51 Baylor 2 6 Chicago 2 26 Emory 2 80 Oklahoma 2 7 Penn 2 8 Boalt 1 34 BYU 1 41 Florida 1 TTT Howard 1 37 Indiana 1 22 Iowa 1 65 Loyola CA 1 87 Pepperdine 1 60 Pittsburgh 1 FTT St. Mary's 1 FTT Texas Southern 1 17 Vanderbilt 1 22 W&L 1 27 Washington 1 1 Yale 1 |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:27 AM Author: Lake sinister forum UH dominating over SMU, or just a lack of Dallas information? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6366057) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:30 AM Author: coral area Lack of Dallas information. It's overwhelmingly skewed Houston. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6366088) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:14 AM Author: coral area Subject: Boston, MA 3 Harvard 5.6% 27 Boston College 5.5% 22 Boston U 5.4% 13 Cornell 3.6% 7 Penn 2.9% 4 Columbia 2.4% 14 Georgetown 1.4% 4 NYU 1.1% 8 Michigan 1.1% 8 Virginia 1.1% 11 Duke 1.0% 1 Yale 1.0% 87 Northeastern 0.9% FTT Suffolk 0.7% 22 Notre Dame 0.6% 27 Illinois 0.5% 12 Northwestern 0.4% 8 Boalt 0.4% 70 Seton Hall 0.3% FTT New England 0.3% 41 Florida 0.2% 18 GWU 0.2%
***NUMBERS*** 3 Harvard 31 22 Boston U 16 27 Boston College 15 4 Columbia 9 14 Georgetown 8 13 Cornell 7 7 Penn 7 4 NYU 5 8 Michigan 4 FTT Suffolk 4 8 Virginia 4 11 Duke 2 87 Northeastern 2 1 Yale 2 8 Boalt 1 41 Florida 1 18 GWU 1 27 Illinois 1 FTT New England 1 12 Northwestern 1 22 Notre Dame 1 70 Seton Hall 1 |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:15 AM Author: coral area Subject: Delaware 17 Vanderbilt 1.0% 7 Penn 0.8% 60 Villanova 0.8% 6 Chicago 0.5% 11 Duke 0.5% 12 Northwestern 0.4% 14 Georgetown 0.3% 8 Virginia 0.3% 4 NYU 0.2% FTT Weidner 0.2% ***NUMBERS*** 14 Georgetown 2 7 Penn 2 17 Vanderbilt 2 60 Villanova 2 6 Chicago 1 11 Duke 1 12 Northwestern 1 4 NYU 1 8 Virginia 1 FTT Weidner 1 |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:15 AM Author: coral area Subject: Atlanta, GA 26 Emory 4.7% 11 Duke 3.0% 34 Georgia 2.9% 8 Virginia 2.4% 87 Mercer 1.9% 43 Alabama 1.9% 60 Tennessee 1.9% 27 North Carolina 1.7% 97 Georgia State 1.4% 39 Wake Forest 1.3% 17 Vanderbilt 1.0% 12 Northwestern 0.8% TTT Howard 0.6% 2 Stanford 0.6% 97 Mississippi 0.5% 4 Columbia 0.5% 13 Cornell 0.5% 14 Georgetown 0.5% 27 W&M 0.5% 51 Case Western 0.4% 7 Penn 0.4% 3 Harvard 0.4% 41 Florida 0.2% 4 NYU 0.2%
***NUMBERS*** 26 Emory 11 8 Virginia 9 11 Duke 6 34 Georgia 6 27 North Carolina 4 43 Alabama 3 14 Georgetown 3 97 Georgia State 3 87 Mercer 3 60 Tennessee 3 4 Columbia 2 3 Harvard 2 12 Northwestern 2 17 Vanderbilt 2 39 Wake Forest 2 51 Case Western 1 13 Cornell 1 41 Florida 1 TTT Howard 1 97 Mississippi 1 4 NYU 1 7 Penn 1 2 Stanford 1 27 W&M 1 |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:16 AM Author: coral area Subject: Florida 41 Florida 2.1% 65 Miami 0.7% TTT Stetson 0.6% 53 Florida State 0.4% 8 Michigan 0.3% 8 Virginia 0.3% FTT Suffolk 0.2%
***NUMBERS*** 41 Florida 9 65 Miami 3 TTT Stetson 2 53 Florida State 1 8 Michigan 1 FTT Suffolk 1 8 Virginia 1 |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:17 AM Author: silver fragrant haunted graveyard what law school do you attend dood? thx by the way (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6365980) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:17 AM Author: coral area Subject: Ohio 39 Ohio State 5.5% 51 Case Western 2.7% TTT Akron 1.6% 53 Cincinnati 1.5% 8 Michigan 1.4% 17 Vanderbilt 1.0% FTT Ohio Northern 0.9% TTT Cleveland State 0.8% 7 Penn 0.8% 8 Virginia 0.8% FTT West Virginia 0.7% 39 Wake Forest 0.6% 93 Toledo 0.6% 27 Illinois 0.5% 4 Columbia 0.5% 11 Duke 0.5% FTT Valparaiso 0.5% 19 WUSTL 0.5% 43 American 0.4% 12 Northwestern 0.4% 60 Pittsburgh 0.4% FTT Capital 0.4% 3 Harvard 0.4% FTT Michigan State 0.4% 16 Texas 0.2%
***NUMBERS*** 39 Ohio State 12 51 Case Western 6 8 Michigan 5 TTT Akron 3 8 Virginia 3 43 American 2 53 Cincinnati 2 TTT Cleveland State 2 4 Columbia 2 3 Harvard 2 7 Penn 2 17 Vanderbilt 2 FTT Capital 1 11 Duke 1 27 Illinois 1 FTT Michigan State 1 12 Northwestern 1 FTT Ohio Northern 1 60 Pittsburgh 1 16 Texas 1 93 Toledo 1 FTT Valparaiso 1 39 Wake Forest 1 FTT West Virginia 1 19 WUSTL 1
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:18 AM Author: coral area Subject: Seattle, WA 27 Washington 2.2% 8 Michigan 1.1% 70 Oregon 0.6% 93 Seattle 0.5% 3 Harvard 0.5% 1 Yale 0.5% 14 Georgetown 0.3% 4 NYU 0.2%
***NUMBERS*** 8 Michigan 4 27 Washington 4 3 Harvard 3 14 Georgetown 2 93 Seattle 2 4 NYU 1 70 Oregon 1 1 Yale 1
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:20 AM Author: coral area Subject: Vault 5 1 Yale 24.1% 4 Columbia 16.4% 3 Harvard 15.3% 6 Chicago 14.6% 7 Penn 12.8% 2 Stanford 11.0% 4 NYU 10.0% 13 Cornell 6.7% 11 Duke 6.5% 12 Northwestern 5.3% 8 Boalt 4.9% 8 Michigan 4.4% 14 Georgetown 4.1% 8 Virginia 3.7% 17 Vanderbilt 3.5% 22 Notre Dame 2.3% 32 Fordham 2.1% 16 Texas 2.0% 65 Rutgers 2.0% 22 Boston U 1.7% 27 Boston College 1.5% 17 USC 1.4% 43 Arizona 1.3% 15 UCLA 1.3% 18 GWU 1.1% 27 Illinois 1.1% 50 UConn 1.0% 43 Tulane 1.0% 19 WUSTL 0.9% 27 North Carolina 0.9% 43 American 0.9% 60 Villanova 0.8% TTT Albany 0.8% 58 Brooklyn 0.8% 34 BYU 0.7% 39 Wake Forest 0.6% TTT Howard 0.6% 65 Kentucky 0.6% 53 Cardozo 0.5% 27 W&M 0.5% 39 Ohio State 0.5% 22 Iowa 0.4% 26 Emory 0.4% 87 Pepperdine 0.4% 32 Wisconsin 0.4% 43 SMU 0.3% FTT Touro 0.3% 70 Houston 0.3% 80 St. John's 0.3% 60 Kent 0.3% 41 Florida 0.2% TTT NY Law 0.2% FTT Weidner 0.2%
***NUMBERS*** 3 Harvard 85 4 Columbia 62 1 Yale 48 4 NYU 45 7 Penn 31 6 Chicago 28 14 Georgetown 24 2 Stanford 19 8 Michigan 16 8 Virginia 14 8 Boalt 13 13 Cornell 13 11 Duke 13 12 Northwestern 13 32 Fordham 10 16 Texas 9 17 Vanderbilt 7 18 GWU 6 22 Boston U 5 65 Rutgers 5 43 American 4 27 Boston College 4 58 Brooklyn 4 22 Notre Dame 4 15 UCLA 4 43 Tulane 3 17 USC 3 TTT Albany 2 43 Arizona 2 53 Cardozo 2 27 Illinois 2 27 North Carolina 2 50 UConn 2 60 Villanova 2 19 WUSTL 2 34 BYU 1 26 Emory 1 41 Florida 1 70 Houston 1 TTT Howard 1 22 Iowa 1 60 Kent 1 65 Kentucky 1 TTT NY Law 1 39 Ohio State 1 87 Pepperdine 1 43 SMU 1 80 St. John's 1 FTT Touro 1 27 W&M 1 39 Wake Forest 1 FTT Weidner 1 32 Wisconsin 1 |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:21 AM Author: coral area Subject: Vault 10 4 Columbia 35.4% 1 Yale 33.2% 3 Harvard 25.9% 6 Chicago 25.5% 4 NYU 23.7% 2 Stanford 23.1% 7 Penn 21.4% 13 Cornell 18.7% 12 Northwestern 18.5% 11 Duke 17.1% 8 Michigan 10.7% 8 Virginia 9.9% 8 Boalt 9.5% 14 Georgetown 8.7% 15 UCLA 6.6% 32 Fordham 4.1% 16 Texas 4.1% TTT Howard 3.8% 17 Vanderbilt 3.5% 22 Notre Dame 3.4% 17 USC 3.4% 27 Boston College 2.9% 65 Rutgers 2.8% 22 Boston U 2.7% 27 Illinois 2.7% 18 GWU 2.2% 80 St. John's 2.2% 43 Arizona 2.0% 58 Brooklyn 1.8% 27 North Carolina 1.7% 43 American 1.7% 50 UConn 1.5% TTT NY Law 1.5% 27 W&M 1.5% 39 Ohio State 1.4% 53 Cardozo 1.4% 19 WUSTL 1.4% 43 Tulane 1.3% 34 BYU 1.3% 43 Hastings 1.2% TTT Syracuse 1.1% 27 Washington 1.1% 26 Emory 0.9% 87 Pepperdine 0.8% 70 Seton Hall 0.8% 60 Villanova 0.8% TTT Albany 0.8% 80 Buffalo 0.8% 70 Loyola 0.8% 32 Wisconsin 0.7% 60 Missouri 0.7% 39 Wake Forest 0.6% 65 Kentucky 0.6% TTT Hofstra 0.5% 87 Dickinson 0.5% 22 Iowa 0.4% 37 Indiana 0.4% 80 Rutgers Newark 0.4% 43 SMU 0.3% FTT Touro 0.3% 70 Houston 0.3% 60 Kent 0.3% 70 Denver 0.3% 65 San Diego 0.3% 41 Florida 0.2% FTT Weidner 0.2%
***NUMBERS*** 3 Harvard 144 4 Columbia 134 4 NYU 106 1 Yale 66 7 Penn 52 14 Georgetown 51 6 Chicago 49 12 Northwestern 45 2 Stanford 40 8 Michigan 39 8 Virginia 37 13 Cornell 36 11 Duke 34 8 Boalt 25 15 UCLA 21 32 Fordham 20 16 Texas 18 18 GWU 12 58 Brooklyn 9 43 American 8 27 Boston College 8 22 Boston U 8 TTT NY Law 8 65 Rutgers 7 80 St. John's 7 17 USC 7 17 Vanderbilt 7 TTT Howard 6 22 Notre Dame 6 53 Cardozo 5 43 Hastings 5 27 Illinois 5 27 North Carolina 4 43 Tulane 4 43 Arizona 3 39 Ohio State 3 70 Seton Hall 3 TTT Syracuse 3 50 UConn 3 27 W&M 3 19 WUSTL 3 TTT Albany 2 80 Buffalo 2 34 BYU 2 26 Emory 2 TTT Hofstra 2 70 Loyola 2 87 Pepperdine 2 60 Villanova 2 27 Washington 2 32 Wisconsin 2 70 Denver 1 87 Dickinson 1 41 Florida 1 70 Houston 1 37 Indiana 1 22 Iowa 1 60 Kent 1 65 Kentucky 1 60 Missouri 1 80 Rutgers Newark 1 65 San Diego 1 43 SMU 1 FTT Touro 1 39 Wake Forest 1 FTT Weidner 1
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:22 AM Author: coral area Subject: Vault 25 4 Columbia 60.8% 3 Harvard 54.2% 1 Yale 53.3% 6 Chicago 52.1% 4 NYU 44.6% 2 Stanford 43.9% 7 Penn 37.9% 12 Northwestern 34.6% 13 Cornell 33.2% 11 Duke 32.7% 8 Michigan 22.4% 14 Georgetown 21.7% 8 Boalt 20.5% 8 Virginia 19.3% 15 UCLA 13.9% 22 Notre Dame 12.6% 32 Fordham 11.8% 17 Vanderbilt 10.0% 27 Boston College 9.1% 27 Illinois 8.5% 22 Boston U 8.5% 17 USC 7.7% 16 Texas 7.2% TTT Howard 6.9% 19 WUSTL 6.3% 18 GWU 6.2% 39 Ohio State 5.5% 34 BYU 5.2% 65 Rutgers 4.8% 53 Cardozo 4.7% 37 Indiana 4.4% 43 Hastings 3.8% 51 Case Western 3.6% 27 Washington 3.3% 43 Arizona 3.3% 43 Tulane 3.0% 26 Emory 3.0% 32 Wisconsin 3.0% TTT Albany 2.8% 80 St. John's 2.8% 58 Brooklyn 2.6% 27 North Carolina 2.6% 50 UConn 2.5% 43 American 2.4% 70 Loyola 2.3% TTT Pace 2.3% TTT NY Law 2.2% 22 Iowa 2.2% 43 SMU 2.1% 34 Davis 2.1% 87 Pepperdine 2.1% 60 Missouri 2.0% 27 W&M 2.0% 70 Houston 1.9% 70 Seton Hall 1.6% TTT Hofstra 1.6% 80 DePaul 1.5% TTT Syracuse 1.5% TTT Texas Tech 1.5% 39 Wake Forest 1.3% 80 Buffalo 1.2% FTT Southern 1.2% TTT Duquesne 1.0% 34 Georgia 1.0% 87 Northeastern 0.9% 97 Georgia State 0.9% FTT Suffolk 0.9% 60 Kent 0.9% TTT Cleveland State 0.8% 77 New Mexico 0.8% 60 Pittsburgh 0.8% 60 Villanova 0.8% 57 Utah 0.8% 53 Cincinnati 0.8% 22 W&L 0.7% 65 Loyola CA 0.7% FTT Detroit Mercy 0.7% 43 Alabama 0.6% 70 Kansas 0.6% TTT Southwestern 0.6% 43 Colorado 0.6% 65 Kentucky 0.6% 93 Toledo 0.6% TTT Akron 0.5% 65 San Diego 0.5% 97 Mississippi 0.5% 51 Baylor 0.5% FTT Chapman 0.5% FTT North Carolina Central 0.5% 87 Dickinson 0.5% 41 Florida 0.5% 37 George Mason 0.5% 80 Rutgers Newark 0.4% 42 Maryland 0.4% 19 Minnesota 0.4% FTT Touro 0.3% 58 Temple 0.3% TTT Catholic 0.3% 70 Denver 0.3% 93 Seattle 0.3% FTT South Texas 0.2% FTT Weidner 0.2%
***NUMBERS*** 3 Harvard 302 4 Columbia 230 4 NYU 200 14 Georgetown 127 1 Yale 106 6 Chicago 100 7 Penn 92 12 Northwestern 84 8 Michigan 82 2 Stanford 76 8 Virginia 72 11 Duke 65 13 Cornell 64 32 Fordham 57 8 Boalt 54 15 UCLA 44 18 GWU 33 16 Texas 32 27 Boston College 25 22 Boston U 25 22 Notre Dame 22 17 Vanderbilt 20 53 Cardozo 17 43 Hastings 16 27 Illinois 16 17 USC 16 19 WUSTL 14 58 Brooklyn 13 TTT NY Law 12 39 Ohio State 12 65 Rutgers 12 43 American 11 TTT Howard 11 37 Indiana 10 80 St. John's 9 43 Tulane 9 34 BYU 8 51 Case Western 8 32 Wisconsin 8 TTT Albany 7 26 Emory 7 TTT Hofstra 6 70 Houston 6 70 Loyola 6 27 North Carolina 6 TTT Pace 6 70 Seton Hall 6 43 SMU 6 27 Washington 6 43 Arizona 5 80 DePaul 5 22 Iowa 5 87 Pepperdine 5 FTT Suffolk 5 50 UConn 5 34 Davis 4 TTT Syracuse 4 TTT Texas Tech 4 27 W&M 4 80 Buffalo 3 60 Kent 3 65 Loyola CA 3 60 Missouri 3 TTT Cleveland State 2 FTT Detroit Mercy 2 TTT Duquesne 2 41 Florida 2 34 Georgia 2 97 Georgia State 2 87 Northeastern 2 60 Pittsburgh 2 65 San Diego 2 FTT Southern 2 TTT Southwestern 2 60 Villanova 2 39 Wake Forest 2 TTT Akron 1 43 Alabama 1 51 Baylor 1 TTT Catholic 1 FTT Chapman 1 53 Cincinnati 1 43 Colorado 1 70 Denver 1 87 Dickinson 1 37 George Mason 1 70 Kansas 1 65 Kentucky 1 42 Maryland 1 19 Minnesota 1 97 Mississippi 1 77 New Mexico 1 FTT North Carolina Central 1 80 Rutgers Newark 1 93 Seattle 1 FTT South Texas 1 58 Temple 1 93 Toledo 1 FTT Touro 1 57 Utah 1 22 W&L 1 FTT Weidner 1
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:23 AM Author: coral area Subject: Vault 50 4 Columbia 71.2% 6 Chicago 66.1% 3 Harvard 63.6% 1 Yale 59.3% 2 Stanford 54.9% 4 NYU 51.6% 12 Northwestern 46.9% 7 Penn 44.4% 11 Duke 43.7% 13 Cornell 38.3% 8 Michigan 31.7% 14 Georgetown 28.4% 8 Virginia 27.8% 8 Boalt 22.7% 16 Texas 18.6% 15 UCLA 16.7% 27 Illinois 16.5% 22 Notre Dame 15.4% 32 Fordham 14.9% 17 Vanderbilt 13.0% 17 USC 12.1% 22 Boston U 10.5% 27 Boston College 9.8% 18 GWU 9.3% TTT Howard 8.8% 19 WUSTL 8.1% 70 Houston 7.5% 37 Indiana 6.1% 39 Ohio State 6.0% 22 Iowa 5.8% 34 BYU 5.2% 65 Rutgers 5.2% 53 Cardozo 5.2% 27 Washington 5.0% 51 Case Western 4.9% 32 Wisconsin 4.8% 43 Hastings 4.5% 43 Tulane 4.0% 27 North Carolina 3.9% 70 Loyola 3.9% 58 Brooklyn 3.8% 43 SMU 3.8% 80 DePaul 3.6% 50 UConn 3.5% 43 American 3.4% 26 Emory 3.4% 43 Arizona 3.3% 39 Wake Forest 3.2% 80 St. John's 3.1% TTT NY Law 3.0% 87 Pepperdine 2.9% TTT Albany 2.8% 60 Kent 2.7% 34 Davis 2.6% 27 W&M 2.4% TTT Pace 2.3% 22 W&L 2.2% 60 Missouri 2.0% 70 Seton Hall 1.9% 34 Georgia 1.9% TTT Texas Tech 1.9% 19 Minnesota 1.8% TTT Hofstra 1.8% 43 Colorado 1.8% TTT Syracuse 1.5% 37 George Mason 1.4% 97 Georgia State 1.4% 60 Pittsburgh 1.2% 60 Villanova 1.2% TTT Catholic 1.2% 80 Buffalo 1.2% FTT Southern 1.2% 80 Oklahoma 1.1% FTT Detroit Mercy 1.1% 51 Baylor 1.1% TTT Duquesne 1.0% FTT Valparaiso 1.0% 65 Loyola CA 1.0% 87 Northeastern 0.9% FTT Suffolk 0.9% TTT Cleveland State 0.8% 77 New Mexico 0.8% 57 Utah 0.8% 42 Maryland 0.8% 53 Cincinnati 0.8% NA Charleston 0.7% 41 Florida 0.7% 43 Alabama 0.6% 70 Kansas 0.6% 60 Tennessee 0.6% TTT Southwestern 0.6% 65 Kentucky 0.6% 93 Toledo 0.6% FTT John Marshall 0.6% TTT Akron 0.5% 65 San Diego 0.5% 97 Mississippi 0.5% FTT Chapman 0.5% TTT Vermont 0.5% FTT North Carolina Central 0.5% 87 Dickinson 0.5% 87 LSU 0.5% FTT South Texas 0.4% FTT Texas Southern 0.4% 80 Rutgers Newark 0.4% FTT St. Mary's 0.4% 77 Indianapolis 0.4% FTT Touro 0.3% 58 Temple 0.3% 70 Denver 0.3% 93 Seattle 0.3% FTT Weidner 0.2%
***NUMBERS*** 3 Harvard 354 4 Columbia 269 4 NYU 231 14 Georgetown 166 6 Chicago 127 1 Yale 118 8 Michigan 116 12 Northwestern 114 7 Penn 108 8 Virginia 104 2 Stanford 95 11 Duke 87 16 Texas 82 13 Cornell 74 32 Fordham 72 8 Boalt 60 15 UCLA 53 18 GWU 50 22 Boston U 31 27 Illinois 31 27 Boston College 27 22 Notre Dame 27 17 Vanderbilt 26 17 USC 25 70 Houston 24 58 Brooklyn 19 53 Cardozo 19 43 Hastings 19 19 WUSTL 18 43 American 16 TTT NY Law 16 TTT Howard 14 37 Indiana 14 22 Iowa 13 39 Ohio State 13 65 Rutgers 13 32 Wisconsin 13 80 DePaul 12 43 Tulane 12 51 Case Western 11 43 SMU 11 70 Loyola 10 80 St. John's 10 60 Kent 9 27 North Carolina 9 27 Washington 9 34 BYU 8 26 Emory 8 TTT Albany 7 TTT Hofstra 7 87 Pepperdine 7 70 Seton Hall 7 50 UConn 7 TTT Pace 6 43 Arizona 5 34 Davis 5 19 Minnesota 5 FTT Suffolk 5 TTT Texas Tech 5 27 W&M 5 39 Wake Forest 5 TTT Catholic 4 34 Georgia 4 65 Loyola CA 4 TTT Syracuse 4 80 Buffalo 3 43 Colorado 3 FTT Detroit Mercy 3 41 Florida 3 37 George Mason 3 97 Georgia State 3 FTT John Marshall 3 60 Missouri 3 60 Pittsburgh 3 60 Villanova 3 22 W&L 3 51 Baylor 2 TTT Cleveland State 2 TTT Duquesne 2 42 Maryland 2 87 Northeastern 2 80 Oklahoma 2 65 San Diego 2 FTT South Texas 2 FTT Southern 2 TTT Southwestern 2 FTT Valparaiso 2 TTT Akron 1 43 Alabama 1 FTT Chapman 1 NA Charleston 1 53 Cincinnati 1 70 Denver 1 87 Dickinson 1 77 Indianapolis 1 70 Kansas 1 65 Kentucky 1 87 LSU 1 97 Mississippi 1 77 New Mexico 1 FTT North Carolina Central 1 80 Rutgers Newark 1 93 Seattle 1 FTT St. Mary's 1 58 Temple 1 60 Tennessee 1 FTT Texas Southern 1 93 Toledo 1 FTT Touro 1 57 Utah 1 TTT Vermont 1 FTT Weidner 1
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:28 AM Author: misanthropic heaven http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1126256708738
why are these numbers so much lower? |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:29 AM Author: coral area The stats I have, while undercounting because some firms don't have stats available or have unknowns, also overcount split-summers not identified and 1Ls or 3Ls. Additionally, some people work at a firm 2L summer, then choose a smaller firm, public interest work, or a clerkship at graduation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6366080) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:35 AM Author: misanthropic heaven thx (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6366125) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:23 AM Author: silver fragrant haunted graveyard what kind of man just sits there and compiles all this information for no reason? unless this is a part of some larger, lucrative or academic project, kill self. anyway, thanks, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6366021) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 1:26 AM Author: White church new version wtf is your problem
edit: sorry about your HYS dings |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:52 PM Author: Pink faggotry fag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6368655) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:25 AM Author: coral area Subject: Vault's 20 Most Selective Firms 1 Yale 52.8% 4 Columbia 43.9% 3 Harvard 43.1% 2 Stanford 35.3% 6 Chicago 33.3% 4 NYU 31.7% 7 Penn 25.9% 11 Duke 21.1% 13 Cornell 20.2% 8 Boalt 17.4% 12 Northwestern 17.3% 8 Michigan 15.3% 8 Virginia 12.6% 14 Georgetown 11.6% 27 Boston College 6.5% 22 Boston U 6.1% 17 Vanderbilt 6.0% 15 UCLA 5.7% 32 Fordham 5.4% 22 Notre Dame 5.1% 17 USC 4.8% 27 Illinois 4.8% 18 GWU 4.5% 16 Texas 3.6% 65 Rutgers 3.6% 34 BYU 3.3% 19 WUSTL 3.2% TTT Howard 3.1% 43 Arizona 2.6% 34 Davis 2.1% 43 Tulane 2.0% 80 St. John's 1.8% 58 Brooklyn 1.8% 37 Indiana 1.8% 27 Washington 1.7% 87 Pepperdine 1.6% 80 DePaul 1.5% 60 Kent 1.5% 43 Hastings 1.4% 39 Ohio State 1.4% 53 Cardozo 1.4% 27 North Carolina 1.3% 39 Wake Forest 1.3% 43 American 1.3% 26 Emory 1.3% TTT Albany 1.2% 32 Wisconsin 1.1% 50 UConn 1.0% 27 W&M 1.0% 70 Houston 0.9% 22 Iowa 0.9% 77 New Mexico 0.8% 60 Villanova 0.8% 57 Utah 0.8% 22 W&L 0.7% NA Charleston 0.7% FTT Suffolk 0.7% 43 Alabama 0.6% 70 Kansas 0.6% 65 Kentucky 0.6% TTT NY Law 0.6% FTT Valparaiso 0.5% 87 Dickinson 0.5% 87 Northeastern 0.5% 37 George Mason 0.5% 42 Maryland 0.4% 70 Loyola 0.4% FTT Detroit Mercy 0.4% 77 Indianapolis 0.4% 43 SMU 0.3% FTT Touro 0.3% 58 Temple 0.3% 70 Denver 0.3% 70 Seton Hall 0.3% 41 Florida 0.2% FTT John Marshall 0.2% FTT Weidner 0.2%
***NUMBERS*** 3 Harvard 240 4 Columbia 166 4 NYU 142 1 Yale 105 14 Georgetown 68 6 Chicago 64 7 Penn 63 2 Stanford 61 8 Michigan 56 8 Virginia 47 8 Boalt 46 11 Duke 42 12 Northwestern 42 13 Cornell 39 32 Fordham 26 18 GWU 24 27 Boston College 18 22 Boston U 18 15 UCLA 18 16 Texas 16 17 Vanderbilt 12 17 USC 10 58 Brooklyn 9 27 Illinois 9 22 Notre Dame 9 65 Rutgers 9 19 WUSTL 7 43 American 6 43 Hastings 6 80 St. John's 6 43 Tulane 6 34 BYU 5 53 Cardozo 5 80 DePaul 5 TTT Howard 5 60 Kent 5 43 Arizona 4 34 Davis 4 37 Indiana 4 87 Pepperdine 4 FTT Suffolk 4 TTT Albany 3 26 Emory 3 70 Houston 3 27 North Carolina 3 TTT NY Law 3 39 Ohio State 3 27 Washington 3 32 Wisconsin 3 22 Iowa 2 50 UConn 2 60 Villanova 2 27 W&M 2 39 Wake Forest 2 43 Alabama 1 NA Charleston 1 70 Denver 1 FTT Detroit Mercy 1 87 Dickinson 1 41 Florida 1 37 George Mason 1 77 Indianapolis 1 FTT John Marshall 1 70 Kansas 1 65 Kentucky 1 70 Loyola 1 42 Maryland 1 77 New Mexico 1 87 Northeastern 1 70 Seton Hall 1 43 SMU 1 58 Temple 1 FTT Touro 1 57 Utah 1 FTT Valparaiso 1 22 W&L 1 FTT Weidner 1 |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:26 AM Author: coral area Subject: Number of different offices law school SAs Measuring school diversity, or maybe just giving an edge to the larger schools, this stat shows how many different V100 branch offices each school had students working at this summer. 3 Harvard 83 4 NYU 73 14 Georgetown 71 8 Michigan 70 4 Columbia 69 8 Virginia 68 11 Duke 59 7 Penn 52 2 Stanford 52 6 Chicago 51 12 Northwestern 45 13 Cornell 41 8 Boalt 38 1 Yale 38 18 GWU 32 16 Texas 32 15 UCLA 31 17 Vanderbilt 25 32 Fordham 24 17 USC 22 43 Hastings 18 22 Notre Dame 18 43 American 17 27 Boston College 17 22 Boston U 16 TTT Howard 16 27 Illinois 15 19 WUSTL 15 27 North Carolina 13 39 Wake Forest 13 58 Brooklyn 12 53 Cardozo 12 26 Emory 12 41 Florida 12 43 Tulane 12 32 Wisconsin 12 34 BYU 11 70 Houston 11 22 Iowa 11 27 Washington 11 80 St. John's 10 70 Loyola 9 TTT NY Law 9 39 Ohio State 9 51 Case Western 8 37 Indiana 8 70 Seton Hall 8 TTT Albany 7 19 Minnesota 7 65 Rutgers 7 43 SMU 7 50 UConn 7 27 W&M 7 TTT Catholic 6 34 Davis 6 80 DePaul 6 34 Georgia 6 60 Kent 6 65 Loyola CA 6 87 Pepperdine 6 60 Pittsburgh 6 37 George Mason 5 42 Maryland 5 87 Santa Clara 5 22 W&L 5 43 Arizona 4 97 Georgia State 4 TTT Hofstra 4 FTT John Marshall 4 65 Miami 4 65 San Diego 4 FTT Suffolk 4 51 Baylor 3 80 Buffalo 3 43 Colorado 3 87 Dickinson 3 87 Northeastern 3 TTT Pace 3 FTT South Texas 3 TTT Southwestern 3 58 Temple 3 60 Tennessee 3 FTT Valparaiso 3 60 Villanova 3 TTT Akron 2 43 Alabama 2 53 Arizona State 2 53 Cincinnati 2 FTT Detroit Mercy 2 FTT Golden Gate 2 87 LSU 2 FTT Michigan State 2 60 Missouri 2 93 Seattle 2 TTT Stetson 2 TTT Syracuse 2 TTT Texas Tech 2 FTT Baltimore 1 FTT Capital 1 FTT Chapman 1 NA Charleston 1 TTT Cleveland State 1 70 Denver 1 TTT Duquesne 1 53 Florida State 1 77 Indianapolis 1 70 Kansas 1 65 Kentucky 1 97 McGeorge 1 87 Mercer 1 97 Mississippi 1 FTT New England 1 77 New Mexico 1 FTT North Carolina Central 1 FTT Ohio Northern 1 80 Oklahoma 1 70 Oregon 1 80 Richmond 1 80 Rutgers Newark 1 93 San Francisco 1 FTT Southern 1 FTT St. Mary's 1 FTT Texas Southern 1 93 Toledo 1 FTT Touro 1 TTT UNLV 1 57 Utah 1 TTT Vermont 1 FTT Weidner 1 FTT West Virginia 1 FTT William Mitchell 1
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 9:43 AM Author: coral area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6367649) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 10:57 AM Author: supple elastic band Subject: CC domination Thanks!
Any ideas why Columbia and Chicago seem to dominate (compared to their US News ranking)?
Columbia is in NYC where most top firms are. That probably accounts for some of it.
But what about Chicago? Do firms just think very highly of them? It doesn't seem to be historical prestige since Michigan does so poorly. |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 11:11 AM Author: know-it-all zombie-like twinkling uncleanness Chicago has a very small class compared to everywhere but Yale and every firm wants at least 1 or 2 chicago guys. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6368018) |
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Date: October 7th, 2006 5:01 PM Author: Deranged Sanctuary Double Fault well, it is the best legal education on the planet. i dunno, that might help (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6745439) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 10:59 AM Author: appetizing plum deer antler multi-billionaire seems like Duke is better than MVB (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6367952) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 11:02 AM Author: glittery chapel cuckold i was surprised by duke. but the top 10-20% at mvb do a clerkship/academia. not true at duke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6367966) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:13 PM Author: filthy walnut hairy legs Why are we even using this? GTO's study has a much much better methodology. Dividing raw numbers class size (coupled with incomplete info) just doesn't mean anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6368399) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:50 PM Author: crystalline messiness Why doesn't it mean "something"? Unless you have a plausible theory what particular missing data is going to disfavor some school, the ranking does seem indicative about how well students are doing from various schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6368639) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:55 PM Author: coral area It's just a small snapshot for summer associates at V100 firms. It's not all-inclusive or anything. And it helps for similarly-situated schools--UCLA v. USC, for instance, or NYU v. Columbia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6368670) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:47 PM Author: blue orchestra pit You should adjust for law school class size. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6368622) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:51 PM Author: crystalline messiness I believe he has. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6368643) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 12:55 PM Author: coral area I did, that's what the % are for, % of total 2L class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6368673) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 1:04 PM Author: blue orchestra pit Oh, my apologies. I mistakenly thought those percentages were percentage of school placement in the market as compared to other schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6368755) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 2:14 PM Author: coral area If only Covington were included... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6369314) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2006 3:40 PM Author: coral area still no reply from Covington's recruiting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6369962) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 9:22 PM Author: coral area Because Brooklyn and Minnesota have gotten some V100 threads, a bump for old time's sake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#6736078) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2006 5:39 PM Author: Frum Temple While I think these lists are worthless, and I also think that UCLA is a good school, I'd like to point out that UT is beating UCLA. This is in addition to the complete trouncing UT is giving UCLA in judicial clerkship placement.
HTH. |
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Date: March 9th, 2007 8:01 PM Author: coral area I've added several more charts from last summer's data, including a "one-track placement" chart and a selectivity chart. Selectivity is most interesting: http://lawfirmaddict.blogspot.com/2007/03/vault-selectivity-placement.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#7731336) |
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Date: March 9th, 2007 9:23 PM Author: rose son of senegal becky maybe mention the firms' names on the selectivity chart? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#7731610) |
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Date: March 9th, 2007 9:31 PM Author: coral area Done: 1-16 and 19 are all available, and I've listed those firms on the chart. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#7731630) |
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Date: March 10th, 2007 10:21 AM Author: coral area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#7733246) |
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Date: March 10th, 2007 10:28 AM Author: Sooty arousing home Your hard work is appreciated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#7733255) |
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Date: March 10th, 2007 7:41 PM Author: coral area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#7735390) |
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Date: March 10th, 2007 7:46 PM Author: stimulating voyeur trust fund Is there a reaon GTO does not bring you in house? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#7735404) |
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Date: March 10th, 2007 7:47 PM Author: coral area Even if offered, I'm not comfortable with everything about this site to associate myself formally with it. This week was almost the breaking point for me just closing up shop. We'll see if the new moderation comes through. Otherwise, I'm really afraid my employer will start tracking who visits this site and I'd be done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#7735408) |
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Date: March 10th, 2007 7:49 PM Author: stimulating voyeur trust fund thats a pretty pussified attitude my friend. Your worries could clearly be assuaged by not posting at work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#7735415) |
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Date: March 10th, 2007 7:51 PM Author: coral area Yeah, just what I want to do, bring home law firm and law clerk stats with me. What else am I going to do on a Saturday night when I'm in the office, trying to get work accomplished? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=466914&forum_id=2#7735421) |
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Date: March 10th, 2007 7:54 PM Author: stimulating voyeur trust fund this was a fairly clever response, so I will let you off the hook.
Load Mozilla on a jump drive and run it off of there. Should be fairly safe. |