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Interesting how the PUA scene died down, what happened?

I don't really follow it so maybe it just went somewhere els...
Fighting quadroon dragon
  12/09/20
alt-right/trad movement dampened it
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  12/09/20
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  12/09/20
This whole online ecosystem of MGTOW/MRA/Incel stuff came up...
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  12/09/20
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  12/09/20
nyuug
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  12/09/20
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roosh deleted all his PUA shit and became a fake right wing ...
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  12/09/20
He's given up too much money to be fake
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  12/10/20
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  12/09/20
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all the extremely online dudes who didn't originally underst...
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  12/09/20
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  12/11/20
Keep talking shit about XO
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  12/11/20
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  12/09/20
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  12/09/20
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  12/09/20
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  12/13/20
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  12/11/20
All the dorks became chads. No more customers.
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  12/11/20
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Date: December 9th, 2020 9:08 PM
Author: Fighting quadroon dragon

I don't really follow it so maybe it just went somewhere else and I didn't notice, but it seems to have died down after like 2017. The underlying issues that caused seem to have gotten worse though. So what happened to it? Did all the people with skills age out and the zoomers are too depressed to even try?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517016)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 9:09 PM
Author: Submissive Pea-brained Trailer Park Milk

alt-right/trad movement dampened it



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517022)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 9:26 PM
Author: cream bossy sandwich pit

It became too mainstream and women became wise to their tricks, combined with Tinder which meant that women didn't have to put up with clowns at clubs to get laid and could go straight for the alphas.

The whole things was probably vastly oversold to begin with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517139)



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Date: December 10th, 2020 12:41 AM
Author: talented dead dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41518323)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 9:27 PM
Author: brindle school cafeteria

It evolved into the alt right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517146)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 9:28 PM
Author: Rebellious kitty

People wised up to the fact that the retards who made up that "movement" were all fucking and passing around the same bottom 20% of last-call dumpster-living women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517151)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 11:14 PM
Author: Arousing iridescent personal credit line garrison



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Date: December 10th, 2020 12:42 AM
Author: talented dead dog poop

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41518327)



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Date: December 11th, 2020 7:19 AM
Author: charismatic house liquid oxygen



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Date: December 9th, 2020 9:29 PM
Author: Fragrant Maroon Stead

Cancel culture happened - with MSM doing full hit pieces on individuals while Big tech cut their server/domain access etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517154)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 9:30 PM
Author: Henna love of her life degenerate

Tinder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517160)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 9:30 PM
Author: translucent gaped idiot

This whole online ecosystem of MGTOW/MRA/Incel stuff came up that just catered to sexually frustrated men better and without needing them to spend loads of money. Also online dating, porn apps, etc.

I actually wonder what's happening with the remaining PUA companies these days. Like real social dynamics. That's apparently still a thing. I wonder if they make any money still.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517163)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 9:42 PM
Author: Fragrant Maroon Stead

looksmaxing emerged as a response to incel culture. Looksmax.me is the top men’s health website in the world beating out Corp sites like menshealth.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517219)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 10:01 PM
Author: Mischievous stain legend



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Date: December 9th, 2020 11:16 PM
Author: Glittery Talking Wrinkle University

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Date: December 9th, 2020 11:17 PM
Author: Glittery Talking Wrinkle University

see my poast below on this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517931)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 9:46 PM
Author: ruby lay nowag

Online dating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517246)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 9:56 PM
Author: Drab hissy fit

chateau heartiste posts can still be found in archives. It's treasure chest of insights into human psychology.

PUA stuff should be as relevant as ever because incels are just as numerous as ever, but I think mass censorship and indoctrination have effectively put the PUA red pills out of reach for most young men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517291)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 10:00 PM
Author: Sepia big public bath ceo

everyone who wanted to get laid either bagged some retarded 4 off of tinder or simps on onlyfans to fill the void in their soul. legal weed probably pacified these types of people a lot too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517316)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 10:21 PM
Author: Fishy boltzmann

nyuug

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517465)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 11:09 PM
Author: Concupiscible hateful chapel

Guy should get a jerb at RSD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517888)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 11:35 PM
Author: lavender stag film organic girlfriend

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3345436&mc=91&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41518052)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 11:10 PM
Author: Primrose territorial lodge

roosh deleted all his PUA shit and became a fake right wing christian fanatic now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517889)



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Date: December 10th, 2020 12:03 AM
Author: Fighting quadroon dragon

He's given up too much money to be fake

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41518201)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 11:11 PM
Author: Honey-headed Market Ratface

swipe-apps. it used to be badass to rack up notches on the belt. its too easy now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517897)



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Date: December 10th, 2020 12:44 AM
Author: talented dead dog poop



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Date: December 10th, 2020 10:54 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Sanctuary Tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41524250)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 11:15 PM
Author: Glittery Talking Wrinkle University

all the extremely online dudes who didn't originally understand women figured them out and then they didn't need the PUA scene anymore. women aren't actually very complicated and all of the useful info about them has already percolated through our culture. even 13 year old kids are throwing around terms like "simp" and "chad" and "alpha" and "beta." everybody knows the score now

the same PUA forums/hangouts actually still exist, believe it or not. but they're entirely populated by cartoonisly sociopathic indians, creepy asians and other minorities. i'm not exaggerating. i spent half a day reading through a PUA forum a couple months ago and i was absolutely repulsed in a way that i hadn't been in a long time. it was a very nyuug/tommy turdskin sort of bitter, resentful vibe toward "western" (white) women that was clearly coming from feelings of racial resentment and inadequacy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517919)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 11:17 PM
Author: Primrose territorial lodge

lol yea cause white western guys arent ever bitching abt white womens

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517935)



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Date: December 10th, 2020 12:23 AM
Author: lavender stag film organic girlfriend

even lulzier as i am the boardts PREMIER WGWAG threader

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41518260)



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Date: December 10th, 2020 6:28 PM
Author: hyperventilating point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41522636)



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Date: December 10th, 2020 10:57 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Sanctuary Tattoo

lmao that TT and nyuug came sprinting in to respond to this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41524268)



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Date: December 11th, 2020 7:16 AM
Author: mahogany bbw



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Date: December 11th, 2020 7:20 AM
Author: charismatic house liquid oxygen

Keep talking shit about XO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41525597)



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Date: December 11th, 2020 8:17 AM
Author: Crimson hall community account

I've seen PUA content and forums now marketed specifically to Indo-Paks. Its vomit-inducing. They have arranged marriages for a reason. Oh and they've got tons of closet cases too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41525697)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 11:20 PM
Author: Odious rose parlor

The PUA's seemed to be stuck in the early 2000's, before online dating got big. Picking up a girl at a bar is probably more fun than picking up an equivalent girl online. But picking her up online is so much more efficient.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517961)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 11:21 PM
Author: Wine corner preventive strike

I would guess most pick up artists end up becoming mgtow chad dads like that instagram beardbro with tons of models

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517967)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 11:23 PM
Author: Concupiscible hateful chapel

Any other bros have PEAK experiences AMOGing other dudes at bars and taking home chicks? That shit was fun as fuck. This covid generation is gunna completely miss that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41517976)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 11:28 PM
Author: Wine corner preventive strike

closest I got to this was going up to a hot ass Asian goddess in da club and I started dancing next to her on the dance floor. She just turned around took a sip of her drink from her straw and in a very sexy but disgusted tone looked at me in the eyes and said "NO", then showed me the hand. I walked away, have been analyzing that last field test for years bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41518003)



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Date: December 9th, 2020 11:31 PM
Author: Ultramarine mad cow disease meetinghouse

Cr. I realize this may sound gay as fuck, but for me the thrill of the chase and the conquest was often more thrilling than the hookup itself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41518022)



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Date: December 10th, 2020 6:21 PM
Author: passionate pocket flask striped hyena



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Date: December 10th, 2020 12:18 AM
Author: Wonderful Flesh Ticket Booth Faggot Firefighter

a junior associate at my old firm went on a date with some PUA expert guy. she came into the office the next day and was raving about how great he was at conversation. as she was talking, she looked him up online and saw he gave PUA seminars locally and i started laughing. she asked what it was and was disgusted and felt so manipulated she swore him off...lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41518240)



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Date: December 10th, 2020 12:46 AM
Author: mahogany bbw

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41518345)



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Date: December 10th, 2020 12:53 AM
Author: Wonderful Flesh Ticket Booth Faggot Firefighter

it was weird but just goes to show how easy it is to play women. she couldnt believe how attentive he was and said all the right things and looked into her eyes and was so smooth. i did feel kinda bad seeing her hopes dashed that quickly though...she did a complete 180 and was embarrassed she fell for his game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41518374)



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Date: December 10th, 2020 1:05 AM
Author: mahogany bbw

Well getting women to like you once they’re talking to you is super easy if you’re smart, funny, attentive, and are confident or can fake it. The hard part of “game” is rising in looks/money/status or convincingly faking enough of one or more of those traits to make attractive women think that they should listen to your pitch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41518409)



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Date: December 11th, 2020 7:34 AM
Author: exhilarant center

Was it Tyler?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41525624)



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Date: December 10th, 2020 12:19 AM
Author: histrionic olive legal warrant office

they're all happily married, no more to complain about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41518247)



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Date: December 10th, 2020 1:05 AM
Author: misunderstood lettuce coldplay fan

what a different time! in my younger days i was always jonesing for them pink slime walls.

i can remember being in law library at tttoolane and walking past a bro combing through the fastseduction.com forums right out in the open. the conversation cocky/funny/kino/attitude/frame shit was legit.

i remember meeting up with a real dork LSU law kid in NOLA through the forums. pretty much a zero to me in looks: pasty, 5'10/145, glasses, shit facial aesthetics. but the kid ended up connecting with a decent associate chick at one of the bigger NOLA firms after a few weeks. he brought her to a bar to meet me and I was impressed. they seemed on their way to being a couple. when she went to the bathroom, he turned to me and exclaimed: "i mind fucked her. i MIND FUCKED her bro!!"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41518412)



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Date: December 10th, 2020 6:26 PM
Author: passionate pocket flask striped hyena

Tinder completed ended it in like 2014-2015. Then instagram/only fans ended hooking up. Now women just use their BBC dildo and camera for likes and simpbucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41522618)



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Date: December 10th, 2020 6:27 PM
Author: hyperventilating point

Trump sent the Indians back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41522629)



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Date: December 10th, 2020 6:30 PM
Author: Razzle slap-happy state headpube

this was the last window of opportunity for shortmos to have some sliver of a chance to get laid, but then dating apps appeared and hyper gamy was complete

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41522655)



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Date: December 10th, 2020 11:53 PM
Author: crystalline station new version

Dancing monkey frame

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Date: December 11th, 2020 7:17 AM
Author: multi-colored feces sex offender

pretty much. mops and psychos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41525590)



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Date: December 11th, 2020 3:23 PM
Author: crystalline station new version

what's a mop?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41528245)



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Date: December 13th, 2020 6:30 PM
Author: multi-colored feces sex offender

A nerd who is really into some scene. A fan. A stan. A true believer. A MARK

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41540785)



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Date: December 13th, 2020 7:39 PM
Author: crystalline station new version

bugman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41541075)



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Date: December 14th, 2020 2:40 PM
Author: multi-colored feces sex offender

Right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41546582)



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Date: December 11th, 2020 7:17 AM
Author: multi-colored feces sex offender

oh god I was in it from the beginning. what happened is it got played out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41525588)



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Date: December 11th, 2020 7:36 AM
Author: Submissive Pea-brained Trailer Park Milk

All the dorks became chads. No more customers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41525631)



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Date: December 14th, 2020 3:18 PM
Author: bronze abode gaming laptop

Incels switched to worshipping donald

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41546832)



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Date: December 14th, 2020 5:15 PM
Author: milky church

The blackpill/PSL has taken over and everyone has realized the only strategy that matters is selecting the right implants and osteotomies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41547538)



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Date: December 14th, 2020 5:15 PM
Author: claret contagious dilemma brethren

We shall see what unfolds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41547543)



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Date: December 14th, 2020 5:19 PM
Author: Comical international law enforcement agency candlestick maker

Style got caught sucking Ross Jeffries’ cock in a Bugatti parked outside some club in Miami and died of AIDS two years later, 2017 or so I believe. No one from the scene wanted to pour the effort and money into managing the PR fallout (“Become a PUA so you too can die of AIDS!”), so it just kind of petered out quietly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4708614&forum_id=2#41547552)



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Date: December 14th, 2020 5:19 PM
Author: angry fear-inspiring base place of business

H1B reform

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