Manager, who informed him that a claim that had been circulating, that a substantial number of

non-citizens had voted in Arizona, was false.

15. On November 22, eight days before Arizona's Governor certified the ascertainment

of the state's legitimate electors based on the popular vote, the Defendant and Co-Conspirator 1

called the Speaker of the Arizona House of Representatives and made knowingly false claims of

election fraud aimed at interfering with the ascertainment of and voting by Arizona's electors, as

follows:

a. The Defendant and Co-Conspirator 1 falsely asserted, among other things,

that a substantial number of non-citizens, non-residents, and dead people

had voted fraudulently in Arizona. The Arizona House Speaker asked Co-

Conspirator 1 for evidence of the claims, which Co-Conspirator 1 did not

have, but claimed he would provide. Co-Conspirator 1 never did so.

b. The Defendant and Co-Conspirator 1 asked the Arizona House Speaker to

call the legislature into session to hold a hearing based on their claims of

election fraud. The Arizona House Speaker refused, stating that doing so

would require a two-thirds vote of its members, and he would not allow it

without actual evidence of fraud.

c. The Defendant and Co-Conspirator 1 asked the Arizona House Speaker to

use the legislature to circumvent the process by which legitimate electors

would be ascertained for Biden based on the popular vote, and replace those

electors with a new slate for the Defendant. The Arizona House Speaker

refused, responding that the suggestion was beyond anything he had ever

heard or thought of as something within his authority.

16. On December 1, Co-Conspirator 1 met with the Arizona House Speaker. When the

Arizona House Speaker again asked Co-Conspirator 1 for evidence of the outcome-determinative

election fraud he and the Defendant had been claiming, Co-Conspirator 1 responded with words

to the effect of, "We don't have the evidence, but we have lots of theories."

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