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Date: January 22nd, 2007 11:55 PM Author: sinister razzle-dazzle sanctuary deer antler
Very incomplete, but what the hell.
http://www.autoadmit.com/lawfirms/
Once work is completed this will be migrated over to lawfirmdiscussion.com (that URL doesn't work yet). The data will also be mirrored on summerassociate.com once we get the rest of that site up and running (which will probably be a while).
The message boards links will eventually go to the xo lawyer board.
And yes, I know about the FireFox bug on the chart pages. Don't know how to fix it, but I'll have rachmiel look at it when he has the chance (or if anyone here knows the solution feel free to mention it).
Also, feel free to give suggestions for replacements for Jesus and Big Changes (or vote to keep them if you want).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7470744) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2007 12:22 AM Author: sinister razzle-dazzle sanctuary deer antler
Yeah.
Or maybe we'd implement a more extreme form of the optional moderation on that mirror (e.g. to view the unmoderated version you'd have to login and select an option from a preferences menu, rather than just clicking a link once and getting cookies enabled).
Basically I think that site would be more of a "work-safe" board for lawyers. Everyone else (as well as lawyers who don't give a shit about reading xo itself from work) can just continue to post on this board (all the content from the other board would end up here too so it's not like anyone would miss out on anything by staying here and not posting through the other site).
Please correct me if you think I'm missing some important issue with this plan though.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7470933) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2007 12:38 AM Author: high-end irradiated dilemma
Perhaps making the system "less" google-able will decrease the possibility of outtings actually mattering.
All that stuff yesterday with that smear campaign against that poster and emailing his employer and stuff could be pretty nasty in a lawyer only context...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7471032) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2007 9:44 AM Author: Fragrant mahogany lodge
I think the salary charts should be sortable--i.e. the ability to sort by name, compensation for a particular year, etc.
I think it is unnecessary to highlight above market and below market firms on the list, especially since you seem to be planning separate pages for such firms. This is even more unnecessary if you give the option to sort the lists.
I do think you need to change the images. The Jesus could be changed to some sort of generic lawyerish image like a gavel, a courthouse, or whatever. I don't know about the big changes picture. Maybe it could be an ad?
I know you want "synergy" and google rank boosting, so have included the third column with partners and friends. Realistically, however, I don't think this would get much use from real persons. For that reason, it takes up a very disproportionate amount of space. Perhaps the links could be at the bottom or in a drop down box somewhere.
Once you get farther along, I hope you make liberal use of cross-references. For example, I should be able to click on STB's name in the compensation list to go to their profile. From their profile, there should be a link to see articles related to them and another link to search the forum for related threads. Likewise, the profile should aggregate statistics from the hiring site (summerassociate.com) for quick and easy reference and summerassociate.com should have links to the relevant firm profiles. Etc., etc., etc.
"Law firm articles" could perhaps be renamed "law firm news" and could be THE source for breaking law firm news. Thus when xoxo breaks news, selected moderators could post it to the law firm news website--thus giving a reputable place for MSM sources to credit (since they don't like citing xoxo--as evidenced by this stb/lat stuff).
I've previously given suggestions about summerassociate.com in another thread. I think you said you will be making it more like lsn. this is critical. Without the ability to update information, it is pretty useless.
Other than that, I think the general layout is fine. I think that is mainly what you're looking for right now, right? I would try to make it a little more customized, perhaps using a logo or stylized text for the website title (or giving it some sort of name besides "Law Firm Discussion"). Right now, it's so generic. It's just an out-of-the-box website template. Reminds me of all those google-bombing typosquatting websites. (like http://www.gmaail.com/ )
Finally, I'm not sure that a "lawyers only" board will work, or will solve the problems of xoxo.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7472309) |
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Date: January 24th, 2007 4:48 AM Author: sinister razzle-dazzle sanctuary deer antler
Great ideas, and a lot of that stuff is definitely going to be implemented. Definitely going to have the firm names on the charts lead to profiles and a whole lot of other cross-references. Most of this stuff will be integrated with summerassociate.com also (actually the original plan was to have most of this be exclusively on summer associate, but since people seem to want a "lawyer" site that idea has gone out the window).
I like your law firm news idea -- going to have to think a lot about how to best implement that though. Right now my goal is to just get *something* up so it doesn't just linger. Maybe set it up as a blog (with lots of contributors) or something?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7477332) |
Date: January 23rd, 2007 12:01 AM Author: sinister razzle-dazzle sanctuary deer antler
Come on guys, post some feedback so I don't have to sticky this for the next week.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7470791) |
Date: January 23rd, 2007 12:07 AM Author: Unholy concupiscible idiot
Fucking die already.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7470834) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2007 12:07 AM Author: splenetic business firm
agree
EDIT: THIS Was not supposed to go here. It is in reply to the salary chart running into the grey post.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7470836) |
Date: January 23rd, 2007 12:15 AM Author: Haunting Bat-shit-crazy Garrison Cuckold
Looks good; what will be the content for "law firm profiles"?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7470884) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2007 12:24 AM Author: sinister razzle-dazzle sanctuary deer antler
Right now I'm envisioning all the compensation / NALP / Amlaw data, plus stuff like links to notable threads, mentions of important past events (e.g. Shearman's associate firings, Davis Polk's year with no bonus, etc.), an RSS feed of Google News for the firm, etc.
Is there anything else you think should be there?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7470942) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2007 1:11 PM Author: Fragrant mahogany lodge
- aggregation of summerassociate.com data for that firm
- summer class composition info
- relevant links (to firm website, to vault profile page, nalp page, etc)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7473047) |
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Date: January 24th, 2007 4:51 AM Author: sinister razzle-dazzle sanctuary deer antler
Definitely going to have that all.
The big question: should everything be on one page, or should it be broken down on separate pages (e.g. the summer associate demographic data)? Because I can see these pages becoming very very big (like NALP directory pages, or even longer) if everything is one page. Maybe people wouldn't care if that was the case, but I figure some feedback on the issue would be nice before I start to actually design the thing.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7477343) |
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Date: January 24th, 2007 6:18 AM Author: Fragrant mahogany lodge
I think ideally there would be a SINGLE page for each firm (including all of its offices) and you could drill down for more info. So on the profile page, there'd be a box summarizing summer associate demographics for the most recent year (maybe just listing the top feeder schools and total class size, whatever). Then there'd also be a link for a pop-up window or whatever for "More Detail..." where you could see historical data, filter by office, etc.
Obviously this is a lot of work and is more complicated (and also more difficult to maintain if you're using traditional HTML design). But I think it would be great to have a one-stop page for each firm so people don't have to go through a bunch of pages for different details, but detailed sub-pages for those who want particulars.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7477421) |
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Date: January 24th, 2007 6:33 AM Author: sinister razzle-dazzle sanctuary deer antler
Thanks, I'll give that a shot. Yeah, traditional HTML is limiting... but rachmiel is busy and I don't know php, so I figure I'll just get something up there and then rachmiel or someone else can convert it to php once there's a base to build off of.
What about the chart pages? Are they structured well as-is, or are they annoying to navigate because of the different pages?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7477432) |
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Date: January 24th, 2007 7:54 AM Author: Fragrant mahogany lodge
I agree, repeat it.
The firm profile page should be a "one stop shop."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7477493) |
Date: January 23rd, 2007 12:19 AM Author: Contagious jade stage
Make JEEBUS bigger.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7470913) |
Date: January 23rd, 2007 12:23 AM Author: galvanic point
Cool.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7470936) |
Date: January 23rd, 2007 1:04 AM Author: electric spruce school
bad idea.
xoxo gets dismissed because it is simply a bunch of law students.
if a board of lawyers chatting was as bad as xoxo it really WOULD make 60 minutes in no time. ABA investigation. and more.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7471189) |
Date: January 23rd, 2007 1:07 AM Author: nudist fishy native
can you get me a job at stroock rio?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7471203) |
Date: January 23rd, 2007 2:14 AM Author: sinister razzle-dazzle sanctuary deer antler
Any opinions on profile layout?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7471587) |
Date: January 23rd, 2007 2:17 AM Author: Crawly soul-stirring spot
way to use hoffman's pic
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7471605) |
Date: January 23rd, 2007 9:13 AM Author: bateful lay coldplay fan
Let me know when your organization needs outside counsel. I want you to be my first client.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7472251) |
Date: January 23rd, 2007 10:01 AM Author: umber theater
don't forget to include firms of 40 or more in south florida and the florida keys!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7472348) |
Date: January 24th, 2007 6:24 AM Author: Swashbuckling round eye
you should turn summerassociate.com into the lsn format or something close to it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7477423) |
Date: January 24th, 2007 8:30 AM Author: sinister razzle-dazzle sanctuary deer antler
Very very rough draft that's still incomplete:
http://www.autoadmit.com/lawfirms/profiles/skaddenarps.html
EDIT: The page is obviously going to get very very big, so the links on the left will be clickable so you can scroll down to the relevant part of the page.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568309&forum_id=2#7477518) |
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