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So Trump is tarrifing countries just 50% of what they do to us & libs go insane?
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Date: April 2nd, 2025 7:24 PM Author: Violet Hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48808750) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:46 AM Author: Vengeful Territorial Trailer Park Sup (((Howard Lutnick)))) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810502) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:32 AM Author: cream locale A Mensch! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810690) |
Date: April 2nd, 2025 7:30 PM Author: hot magical candlestick maker gay wizard The saddest thing (among many) about you as a poaster, is that if I didn’t attack your threads and remind people that you’re a whore for Israel, your threads wouldn’t even get a single response. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48808767) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:37 AM Author: Violet Hell most popular thread of the day. wow you got blown out faggot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810718) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Violet Hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810278) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 8:57 AM Author: lemon institution jap max iq to believe this is actually what the tariff %s are based on? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810297) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:01 AM Author: Violet Hell 200 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810308) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:04 AM Author: Boyish nudist turdskin fortuitous meteor Cr, everyone is actually very dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810325) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:06 AM Author: Violet Hell Everyone opposing tariffs is very dumb. They are a great idea. We need to radically reduce consumption of cheap plastic crap. Tariffs will do that. Reduce the microplastics. Make it expensive for foreign countries to sell stuff into the US. Reduce consumption. People need to learn to do other stuff not just buy crap. This is 180 in every respect. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810339) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:07 AM Author: lemon institution jap so your argument is basically... degrowth? interesting, tell me more my fellow conservative (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810343) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:09 AM Author: Violet Hell No its "RE-Growth"
We will re-grow in the areas that matter, and reduce growth in the harmful areas that everyone should agree are harmful, like buying plastic from china and vietnam and synthetic clothes made from plastic and oil from indonesia and laos. there is no 'good' from these products ever. |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:11 AM Author: lemon institution jap Yeah I'm sure the US, the world's leading producer of oil, will really move away from oil-based products. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810358) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:13 AM Author: Violet Hell oh its not going to lead to a drop in consumption? thats the complete opposite of what everyone is saying and why they are panicking about tariffs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810370) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:44 AM Author: vibrant skinny woman is america going to focus on consuming trump steaks and trump bibles? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810495) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:35 AM Author: Violet Hell in an ideal world (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810711) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:12 AM Author: Floppy Cordovan Ceo Temple Moreover, we absolutely must do this overnight with little consideration for its effects on commerce and the economy. Any degree of caution or circumspection in implementing these measures would be un-American. MAGA! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810366) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:14 AM Author: Violet Hell overnight? Its been several months now. not to mention he ran on this. is trump supposed to wait until year 4 of his presidency to do this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810375) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:28 AM Author: Floppy Cordovan Ceo Temple Oh yeah he mentioned imposing tariffs on China to stop them gaining economic power due to cheap labor, so now any tariff in any amount he imposes at any time on any other country's imports is smart and represents the will of the people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810430) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:27 AM Author: Histrionic address dog poop I have been thinking a lot about the tariffs and broadly side with the convention that they are bad but it did occur to me that the closets of my house, built in the late 50s, are jam packed with so much clothing we never wear. People today buy far more clothing than past generations did. Clothing is also ridiculously cheap by historical standards. Almost all of it is now imported from Asian sweat shops.
If we cut the volume of clothing we consume in half while spending the same amount of money overall, we would still have a lot of clothing, but perhaps end up having more of it made in American mills by American workers and perhaps at even better quality than the rags we import from Vietnam or China, there may be a decent argument to be made in favor of tariffs to support a better eudamonia for America rather than a free trade race to the bottom in quality and prices.
Just a thought. Just a thought. The American consumption machine is so enormous that it probably can withstand a decent reduction in consumption by volume without really noticing it. The argument that we've swapped social well-being for American workers in exchange for endless cheap crap made in China has been around for a few decades now and I'm not opposed to exploring alternatives to this status quo which really has not been working for large swathes of America but, frankly, decimated them.
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:35 AM Author: Vermilion whorehouse prole I wish to subscribe to your newsletter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810471) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:29 AM Author: Flesh Goyim Dingle Berry If we play our cards right, perhaps our children can work in a factory making $50 T-shirts (which by the way will be the same shitty shirts we currently get from Asia and Central America).
If you have living great-grandparents who are Jewish, Irish or Italian they can tell you how great these jobs were back before the mills shut down. Let’s bring back child labor and no minimum wage while we’re at it. |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 11:54 AM Author: Histrionic address dog poop $50 t-shirts are petty decent. That's probably upper end of the quality. But most people are buying the three t-shirts for $30 that last you a season before wearing out. A conversation theme I hear every now and then is that the quality of clothing has declined noticeably, cleaving into good quality but very expensive and cheap but crappy, with the middle market long gone. That may be a byproduct of the race to the bottom in free market capitalism. It does mirror the economic divide since 1980, most of the wealth gains accruing to the top 10-20% while the economic share of the pie markedly collapsed for the bottom 50%, a trend that was masked by the rise of cheap imported crap resulting in illusionary but not real prosperity for working people.
As for your latter point, the typical grandchild of the 1950s factory workers is now working the night shift at 7-11 or spending all day watching TV while funded by entitlement programs. That's been the downward mobility trend of the American lower middle and working classes since 1980. Most people don't have the aptitude to be lawyers or computer programmers or managers, the factory and mill jobs of the 50s and 60s would be dreary to you and me, but they provided real benefits and sustained a real prosperity for working Americans.
Don't insult me or anyone else by screaming about 19th century mill conditions.
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:27 AM Author: low-t spot ratface CR. same journalists who assured us inflation under Biden was NBD are now flipping out over this. it's absurd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810427) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:28 AM Author: Violet Hell Cr exactly. Lol at trusting these people to tell you the truth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810432) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:30 AM Author: Floppy Cordovan Ceo Temple And also all the people who knew the journalists were lying about inflation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810443) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:12 AM Author: supple native It requires believing Trump's numbers are accurate so maybe 90, 95? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810363) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:02 AM Author: Charcoal boltzmann It's not "what they do to us." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810315) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:03 AM Author: Violet Hell all these countries have tariffs on american goods (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810319) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:19 AM Author: Charcoal boltzmann Oh, and the size?
These aren't "reciprocal." They're retarded. |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:21 AM Author: Violet Hell very very big tariffs many multiples of what the US's tariffs on these countries
did you not know this? |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:03 AM Author: Adventurous site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810317) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:04 AM Author: Violet Hell all these countries have tariffs on american goods
fair is fair
and those 'poor countries' are just selling chinese goods to us |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:05 AM Author: Adventurous site fair enough ty, i edited. i hope you are right that this leads to countries everywhere agreeing to cut tariffs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810336) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:04 AM Author: Startling Macaca You seem to have forgotten that he said pussy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810327) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:04 AM Author: lemon institution jap That means he's always right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810329) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:07 AM Author: vivacious shrine pocket flask The numbers appear to be based on trade deficits which don’t necessarily correlate to tariffs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810342) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:10 AM Author: Violet Hell they are fair approximations. all these countries tariff us. we can't tariff them and do exactly to them that they do to us? everyone saying 'tariffs are bad' only care when its the US doing the tariffing, not the rest of the world tariffing us. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810351) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:11 AM Author: lemon institution jap how much is the rest of the world tariffing us (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810354) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:12 AM Author: Violet Hell a LOT
thank you for asking
more people need to be asking these questions. they wouldnt be so opposed to Trumps Tariffs if they did. |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:12 AM Author: lemon institution jap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810367) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:16 AM Author: supple native Trumpers don't want to just look it up, they stupidly take Trump at his word (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810385) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:11 AM Author: vivacious shrine pocket flask So you’re flame, got it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810355) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:11 AM Author: Violet Hell point out the flaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810359) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:14 AM Author: supple native You said 50% of their tariffs, stupidly believing Trump's bullshit numbers. But the "tariff" numbers were completely made up and now you're shifting goalposts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810377) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:15 AM Author: Violet Hell its a fair approximation. all these companies tariff us. they deserve to be tariffed in response. sorry you hate america. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810380) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:16 AM Author: supple native This is why he said you're flame or retarded or whatever but it's exhausting
Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:15 AM Author: internet g0y
its a fair approximation. all these companies tariff us. they deserve to be tariffed in response. sorry you hate america.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810380)
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:17 AM Author: Violet Hell explain why a country that tariffs the US doesn't deserve to be tariffed by the US? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810391) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:22 AM Author: Violet Hell deafening silence (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810409) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:26 AM Author: supple native You think the US doesn't have tariffs because you are an uninformed dumbass with no money, but the US already has tariffs and an average tariff rate that is higher than Canada or the UK but in line with all other advanced economies. People stop responding to you because they don't want to engage with retards on the internet, it's exhausting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810421) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:27 AM Author: Violet Hell Before trump we had a rate much much lower than every country we traded with. Idiot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810424) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:33 AM Author: supple native You said 50%, retard. Now you're shifting the goalposts to new areas where you're also uninformed. Your retardation is shameless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810454) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:36 AM Author: Violet Hell So you actually cannot explain why it's unfair that the US tariffs countries that tariffed us at higher rates? You just avoid answering this very direct question? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810473) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:46 AM Author: supple native So you can't explain why you believed completely false numbers about every other country's tariffs and that ours are now only 50% of theirs? You can't explain why you made that retarded claim? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810499) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:24 AM Author: Violet Hell Devastating silence that you cannot answer a straightforward question. Another day, another dishonest shitlib. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810651) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:15 AM Author: Adventurous site i said the same thing. but then when i looked up some poor countries with massive trade deficits like laos, indonesia, and vietnam, i learned they do actually tariff american goods. so i personally conceded the point that i'd be fine with this if it leads to both sides coming to the table and dropping tariffs across the board, leaving them overall lower than they were last week or whatever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810381) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:31 AM Author: Histrionic address dog poop Have learned much about American tariffs in the last month. Never knew most of the world levies tariffs on us in ways that is not reciprocated. When you see it from this angle it does seem unfair. We have been incredibly generous. Even the EU is far more protectionist than the US when it comes to trade so the hysteria from these countries is hypocritical, to say the least. You'd have thought Trump was levying new tariffs on countries where none existed. And it's not quite true. At all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810447) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:35 AM Author: Adventurous site cr, same here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810472) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:17 AM Author: Underhanded aphrodisiac telephone station Economics and populism do not mix We will long for the days of Timothy Geithner |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:17 AM Author: Exhilarant French Chef Trust Fund the tiresome thing about all of this is that the partisanship runs so deep that 80% of people will react for or against trump policy regardless of what it is.
libs were going to glitchout regardless of what trump did. and if everything works perfectly they'll still glitchout and find fault somewhere. trumpmos were going to rabidly support trump regardless of what trump did. and if everything goes to shit they'll still say trump was perfect and blame shit on something else. |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:18 AM Author: Violet Hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810393) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:28 AM Author: Coiffed odious lodge factory reset button (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810431) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:29 AM Author: elite incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810678) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:30 AM Author: lemon institution jap and yet you're unwilling to point out that OP is just obviously making shit up for lulz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810683) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:26 AM Author: Violet Hell So not a single person ITT can explain why its wrong for the US to tariff countries that have much higher tariffs for all US goods? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810422) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:30 AM Author: low-t spot ratface because much like how they're constantly told 'diversity is our strength,' libs are taught in their college Econ 101 classes that 'tariffs are always bad.' they can't actually explain these ideas. they simply accept them as unquestioned doctrines, and get defensive when others challenge them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810435) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:31 AM Author: Violet Hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810449) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:42 AM Author: Exhilarant French Chef Trust Fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810488) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:46 AM Author: Underhanded aphrodisiac telephone station 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810498) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:11 AM Author: ultramarine persian They are always bad as far as maximizing the output of the world economy goes, but that has diminishing returns on human happiness and well being. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810587) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:24 AM Author: Exhilarant French Chef Trust Fund diminishing to the point of being negative when maximizing output takes priority over maximizing peoples welfare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810653) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:29 AM Author: Charcoal boltzmann You get less of what you tax. Tariffs are a tax on trade. Less trade, less competition, higher prices, lower efficiency.
And if you want to protect shipyards, chip manufacturing, or whatever, there are much more efficient ways to do that, like government contacting and direct subsidies. |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 11:01 AM Author: Slippery Elastic Band go back to India (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810856) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:30 AM Author: lemon institution jap Link to countries having "much higher tariffs"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810437) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:35 AM Author: Violet Hell Are you seriously disputing, or do you seriously not know, that the countries Trump has announced new tariffs for tariffed American goods at much higher rates than America tariffed those countries?
I thought the objection was 'yea but they are wrong when the US does it to them because it will lead to a drop in consumption'. First time I've actually heard anyone dispute this fundamental reality that other countries tariffed us higher.
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 9:45 AM Author: lemon institution jap "First time I've actually heard anyone dispute this fundamental reality that other countries tariffed us higher."
That's interesting because people have already shown the exact formula for the tariff percentages and guess what: it isn't based on tariff rates, but computed based solely off trade deficits. Crazy you've managed to avoid any actual data and can't show any proof of what you're saying btw, keep riding the vibes lil breh
https://x.com/AlanMCole/status/1907595748583121372 |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:18 AM Author: Violet Hell That doesn't disprove that other countries tariffed us higher you dumbass lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810611) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:21 AM Author: lemon institution jap Great, I showed you mine, now show me yours! Surely you're so convinced this is true for a good reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810629) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:24 AM Author: Violet Hell So to be clear, you are going on the record that other countries did not tariff the US at a higher rate than we did them before Trumps announcement? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810649) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:26 AM Author: lemon institution jap They might have! Is there any actual evidence you want to show of their tariff rates compared to ours, or to support Trump's claim that his reciprocal tariffs are based on how much we're being tariffed by those countries? Because it sure does look like this is all about trade deficits. But you can still show me the data! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810663) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:28 AM Author: Violet Hell You are being intellectually dishonest and not engaging in good faith by pretending to deny that other countries tariffed us at much higher rates. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810670) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:28 AM Author: lemon institution jap I'm not denying that might be the case, just want you to show some proof to back up your claim. I've already shown you that the tariffs are directly based on trade deficits, not rates imposed by other countries. Bonus points if you can manage to tie the tariff imbalance directly to Trump's tariffs, but I know that's really a stretch goal here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810672) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:30 AM Author: Charcoal boltzmann Yes, a huge portion of Trump's clumsy-ass list is disputed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810685) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:35 AM Author: Violet Hell No its not dumbass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810707) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:55 AM Author: supple native Of course it is you braying fucking retard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810816) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 11:12 AM Author: Violet Hell (dumbass) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810907) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:04 AM Author: Floppy Cordovan Ceo Temple You're a fucking 80 IQ clown, like all prole trumpmos. You can balance tariffs without unilaterally imposing random ones. Parroting the claim that until now tariffs were "unfair" so we need to rock the world economy to "fix" it for the "long term" is like libs taking away plastic straws because we had a couple hot summers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810559) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:18 AM Author: Violet Hell oh yeaaa youre mad as fuck lil guy lol
sorry trump is bringing back FAIRNESS to America. |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:20 AM Author: vivacious shrine pocket flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810623) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:23 AM Author: supple native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810645) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 11:02 AM Author: Slippery Elastic Band lol simmer down, Chang. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810858) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 11:08 AM Author: smoky forum jewess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810889) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:24 AM Author: Canary goal in life area it’s not based on tariff rates from other countries. Its trade deficit over US imports from the country divided by 2. Apparently the trade deficit number used was only for goods, so it didn’t account for US services trade surplus for many of these countries. It’s really not reciprocal at all. Canada, Mexico, UK, EU don’t impose 10%+ across the board tariffs on American imports. In fact tariff rates across the globe are at all time lows. But calling it “reciprocal” sounds like we’re striking back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810648) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:25 AM Author: Violet Hell This is intellectually dishonest. If you will not concede the basic fact that the vast majority of these countries tariffed the US at a higher rate, sometimes MUCH higher, than the US tariffed the vast majority of these countries, then you are just a liar and dishonest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810658) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:32 AM Author: Charcoal boltzmann He's right. You're wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810689) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:34 AM Author: Violet Hell None of you are right about the basic point: the vast majority of these countries tariffed the US much higher than the US did to these countries, and its fair to assess tariffs on them in retaliation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810703) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 3:18 PM Author: Maniacal abode legend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48812038) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:35 AM Author: Canary goal in life area It's not intellectually dishonest at all. I and others have posted the average tariff rates for all goods across countries. The US and first world countries have rates around 1-2%. These tariffs are astronomically higher than what was imposed on us for virtually every country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810708) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:37 AM Author: Violet Hell Thank you for conceding that the vast majorities of the countries on this list had rates higher than the US tariffed them.
That sure sounds UNFAIR to me! |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 11:07 AM Author: Slippery Elastic Band these people are literal NPCs. If tariffs are so bad, then why does every other country have sky high tariffs on the US? shitlibs and lolbertarians seemingly cannot answer this. |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 11:08 AM Author: Canary goal in life area they don't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810885) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 3:18 PM Author: Maniacal abode legend link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48812042) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 11:12 AM Author: Violet Hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810905) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 3:22 PM Author: supple native The US has tariffs on many goods just like all other major countries, for example a 25% tariff on light trucks and 100% on Chinese EVs, but overall the US's average applied tariffs are in line with all other advanced economies and are in fact higher than Canada, the UK, the EU and Australia.
Countries by weighted average tariff:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/TM.TAX.MRCH.WM.AR.ZS?most_recent_value_desc=false
The US's largest trade partners with whom we do most of our trading are similar in applied tariffs, and the US does proportionally much less trade with the higher tariffing countries. Also note that the higher tariffing countries are invariably some of the absolute poorest countries in the world and that having low tariffs is strongly associated with being a wealthier country.
The Heritage Foundation lists the US at 65th in the world for trade freedom, not "1st" or whatever Trump supporters claim it is.
https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/herit_trade_freedom/
Trump has now increased tariffs to a minimum of 10% on all goods and much higher to major trading partners like the EU and Japan. This isn't making tariffs "fair", it's making them 5-30x higher on average than before Trump's term and 5-30x our peer countries with whom we do most of our trading. |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:35 AM Author: buff dopamine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810710) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 10:54 AM Author: Fighting comical cruise ship striped hyena if it's a trade war they want, it's total war (measure for measure) they will get-- Trump could not be more clear in yesterday's Liberation Day announcement (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810809) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 11:02 AM Author: Slippery Elastic Band lol at all the Indian and Chink posters itt fuming MAF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810860) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 11:13 AM Author: Violet Hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704126&forum_id=2#48810909) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2025 11:29 AM Author: Misanthropic henna library death wish Libs are MAF at this https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1907550610217644127?t=flhl4Okv6OwvEcSmVIzSKw&s=19 |