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job market is good not great imo

not getting call backs unless i spend time on the applicatio...
curious casino
  05/13/25
for coders. other areas are still pretty great.
mind-boggling sienna sandwich
  05/13/25
not in coding but from what i know a lot of the lower level ...
curious casino
  05/13/25
i guess i meant tech generally but yeah i've heard the same ...
mind-boggling sienna sandwich
  05/13/25
anthropic is hiring liberal artists like mad for RLHF
curious casino
  05/13/25
Are you an Engineer
Hairraiser lettuce den
  05/13/25
No
curious casino
  05/13/25
https://archive.is/2025.05.08-123225/https://www.ft.com/cont...
Orchid dragon
  05/13/25
arent these graphs notoriously wrong because they don't use ...
curious casino
  05/13/25
I don’t know about that. I can say for certainty the S...
Orchid dragon
  05/13/25
The SWE boom is over. Now even people from decent schools ar...
Orchid dragon
  05/13/25
...
spectacular step-uncle's house
  05/13/25
my buddy is some sort of coder/consultant - hasn't worked in...
Dark wonderful indian lodge
  05/13/25
bizbros are even more fucked at the moment. JJCs all across ...
Fighting sooty boistinker
  05/13/25
Law is Lucrative bc of strict OCI restrictions. If you don&r...
Hairraiser lettuce den
  05/13/25
the law isn't "last to react", the law doesn't hav...
mind-boggling sienna sandwich
  05/13/25
xo in 2009 was basically mad max
Fighting sooty boistinker
  05/13/25
oh, i lived through it. but that proves what i'm saying -...
mind-boggling sienna sandwich
  05/13/25
you're vastly underestimating the tolerance for the current ...
Fighting sooty boistinker
  05/13/25
no i'm not, i'm saying that that type of severe prolonged pa...
mind-boggling sienna sandwich
  05/13/25
the bond market almost broke all of three weeks ago lawye...
azure seedy hominid locale
  05/13/25
the fact we can persist in being oblivious for decades prove...
mind-boggling sienna sandwich
  05/13/25
Don't be so sure There will be no need for legal support ...
Wine rigpig deer antler
  05/13/25
i mean lawyers themselves. also i'm being somewhat factit...
mind-boggling sienna sandwich
  05/13/25
have you told them ur jewish and a useless retard?
glassy giraffe fat ankles
  05/13/25
obviously i lead with that
curious casino
  05/13/25
...
mind-boggling sienna sandwich
  05/13/25
Are you interviewing with anti-semites or what?
Bossy Multi-billionaire Principal's Office
  05/13/25
...
spectacular step-uncle's house
  05/13/25
feels like onboarding and training modules take forever, I'v...
Concupiscible site macaca
  05/13/25
work at ricky’s startup
Indecent Whorehouse Stain
  05/13/25
...
Wine rigpig deer antler
  05/13/25
not a "start up" guy
curious casino
  05/13/25
because you're an ugly kike
crusty corner
  05/13/25
TSINAH is taking up 9 jobs
electric dysfunction
  05/13/25
...
curious casino
  05/13/25
...
Fighting sooty boistinker
  05/13/25
...
spectacular step-uncle's house
  05/13/25
Finance hiring still in the gutter
buff charismatic space jap
  05/13/25
It's pretty ghastly from the hiring side too, the minute you...
diverse copper ticket booth
  05/13/25
that's what i've been reading. at least some of the differen...
curious casino
  05/13/25
CR, you can put "Must be admitted to NY Bar and have at...
diverse copper ticket booth
  05/13/25
Hiring for top/high level legal roles has been shit. Been wa...
odious senate queen of the night
  05/15/25


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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:55 PM
Author: curious casino

not getting call backs unless i spend time on the applications. used to practically get immediate offers using Easy Apply on linkedin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927583)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: mind-boggling sienna sandwich

for coders. other areas are still pretty great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927596)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:01 PM
Author: curious casino

not in coding but from what i know a lot of the lower level jobs are flooded with indians or don't exist anymore, but there are big openings for actual ML/AI engineers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927600)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: mind-boggling sienna sandwich

i guess i meant tech generally but yeah i've heard the same thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927604)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:06 PM
Author: curious casino

anthropic is hiring liberal artists like mad for RLHF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927617)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: Hairraiser lettuce den

Are you an Engineer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927606)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:03 PM
Author: curious casino

No

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927608)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:04 PM
Author: Orchid dragon

https://archive.is/2025.05.08-123225/https://www.ft.com/content/49ad6c69-9b67-48da-a274-8408dfdaa7cb

Look at the AI company graph

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927613)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:05 PM
Author: curious casino

arent these graphs notoriously wrong because they don't use the right job titles

like no one calls it software engineering anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927615)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:08 PM
Author: Orchid dragon

I don’t know about that. I can say for certainty the SWE market is dogshit right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927626)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: Orchid dragon

The SWE boom is over. Now even people from decent schools are struggling to find anything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927605)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:08 PM
Author: spectacular step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928423)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 5:00 PM
Author: Dark wonderful indian lodge

my buddy is some sort of coder/consultant - hasn't worked in like a year. $8k/mo mortgage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927755)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 5:15 PM
Author: Fighting sooty boistinker

bizbros are even more fucked at the moment. JJCs all across the country are in shambles.

law is always the last to react

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927790)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 5:31 PM
Author: Hairraiser lettuce den

Law is Lucrative bc of strict OCI restrictions. If you don’t ace OCI, you’re Ruined.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927832)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 6:39 PM
Author: mind-boggling sienna sandwich

the law isn't "last to react", the law doesn't have to react because it has a moat. lawyers are the equivalent of the priest class in 2025. it's completely unnecessary which is why it's immune to shit like being automated away. you might as well say romans wasted a bunch of money on augurs. ok? yeah, they serve no purpose, but they make the rules, and the rules they make enshrine their existence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928063)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 6:42 PM
Author: Fighting sooty boistinker

xo in 2009 was basically mad max

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928071)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: mind-boggling sienna sandwich

oh, i lived through it.

but that proves what i'm saying -- it took a blank swan event and a real chance of the collapse of our whole system for biglaw to downsize. getting "lathamed" is still a term we use here yet companies downsizing and revoking offers is common in every other industry.

obviously lawyers aren't bulletproof. augurs don't exist anymore either. i'm just saying that efficiency, technology, the business cycle, etc. don't matter as much because 99% of lawyering is fraud and lies that serves no purpose except that it's mandated.

edit: actually trump revoking fed lawyer offers is a good modern example. the only thing that can eliminate the need for lawyers is the rulemaker deciding "we don't need lawyers." usually that's other lawyers, which is why it doesn't happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928094)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 6:57 PM
Author: Fighting sooty boistinker

you're vastly underestimating the tolerance for the current legal system in the event we have a prolonged downturn. 2008 was the only time in our lifetimes we've seen real unemployment and it wasn't really that bad historically speaking. in the 70s-early 80s it lasted over a whole damn decade and that was back when our entire economy wasn't yet built almost entirely on reserve currency ZIRP shenanigans--if we have to transition out of this system there is no longer fake money to pay for tolerating fake legalism

incidentally this is also probably the best case scenario for the country long term since it's the only one in which there is a serious (ie not just elon wearing a dogecoin hoodie) push for deregulation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928118)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 7:02 PM
Author: mind-boggling sienna sandwich

no i'm not, i'm saying that that type of severe prolonged pain is the only thing that could change it. so the law isn't "slow to react" right now, it doesn't have to react. i'm copping to it being almost all completely fake legalism and akin to roman augury. if there is systemic change i would not be surprised if our over-reliance on lawyers got gutted. but in that case *everyone* is gonna be fucked in the interim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928127)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:57 PM
Author: azure seedy hominid locale

the bond market almost broke all of three weeks ago

lawyers [who claim that legal spend is acyclical] are so economically oblivious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928502)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: mind-boggling sienna sandwich

the fact we can persist in being oblivious for decades proves my point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928725)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 6:43 PM
Author: Wine rigpig deer antler

Don't be so sure

There will be no need for legal support staff 12 months from now. Not an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928075)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 6:49 PM
Author: mind-boggling sienna sandwich

i mean lawyers themselves.

also i'm being somewhat factitious and i'm mostly talking about biglaw. areas of the law that benefit from efficiency like shitlaw are more susceptible to disruption.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928102)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:07 PM
Author: glassy giraffe fat ankles

have you told them ur jewish and a useless retard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927621)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:08 PM
Author: curious casino

obviously i lead with that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927623)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:11 PM
Author: mind-boggling sienna sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927630)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:25 PM
Author: Bossy Multi-billionaire Principal's Office

Are you interviewing with anti-semites or what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927660)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: spectacular step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928424)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:45 PM
Author: Concupiscible site macaca

feels like onboarding and training modules take forever, I've already been onboarded to like 3 start ups who all operate via Slack and Zoom. Just bros emailing "where are we on this?" to one another ngl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927716)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:56 PM
Author: Indecent Whorehouse Stain

work at ricky’s startup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927744)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Wine rigpig deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927745)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: curious casino

not a "start up" guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927772)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 7:15 PM
Author: crusty corner

because you're an ugly kike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928153)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 5:32 PM
Author: electric dysfunction

TSINAH is taking up 9 jobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927835)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: curious casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927837)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Fighting sooty boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48927839)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: spectacular step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928425)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 8:28 PM
Author: buff charismatic space jap

Finance hiring still in the gutter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928281)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:11 PM
Author: diverse copper ticket booth

It's pretty ghastly from the hiring side too, the minute you put out a job ad you get 5,000 resumes most of them irrelevant spam. It's easy to criticize HR for using software to try and screen out the shit, but there's a reason why they do that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928428)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:12 PM
Author: curious casino

that's what i've been reading. at least some of the difference i've noticed can be attributed to widespread resume spamming. one anecdote from a recruiter was that 70% are total nonsense applications.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928429)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:16 PM
Author: diverse copper ticket booth

CR, you can put "Must be admitted to NY Bar and have at least 5 years in-house legal experience" and get spammed by turds who aren't even attorneys (in any jurisdiction). It's LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48928434)



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Date: May 15th, 2025 6:20 AM
Author: odious senate queen of the night

Hiring for top/high level legal roles has been shit. Been wanting to leave my company for months and have zero leads (GC/VP/DGC level)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724547&forum_id=2#48932696)