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Skadden vs. Kirkland [Chicago]
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:26 PM Author: Twisted Bateful Blood Rage Of course it's hypothetical at this point, but assuming I got offers at both, where to go? Seems like both pay above market in Chicago and make you work above market hours. Thoughts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531933) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:29 PM Author: Vengeful forum headpube I know the thing about the bonuses, but isn't Kirkland's salary in Chicago still $135k? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531962) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:33 PM Author: Federal Fragrant Queen Of The Night Community Account yup. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531992) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:33 PM Author: Twisted Bateful Blood Rage Yeah I meant with the bonuses, Kirkland still pays above Chicago market, which is still 135 for now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531996) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:08 PM Author: snowy background story Chicago market is CLEARLY at least 145k, if not 160. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584369) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:09 PM Author: Twisted Bateful Blood Rage a lot has happened since Feb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584372) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:10 PM Author: snowy background story whoa..yeah..you're right! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584376) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:29 PM Author: Hideous hell mental disorder In general I think you have more opportunities to shine when you're working at the mothership than if you're at a branch office. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531963) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:32 PM Author: Twisted Bateful Blood Rage why is this? I also read harder to get partnership at a branch, any truth to this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531987) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:44 PM Author: white electric locale psychic One thing to think about is bonuses. While Skadden gives the entire class the same bonus, Kirkland rewards those that put in more hours than their peers with a larger bonus. So if you work more, you get paid for it, which seems fair. Skadden does provide a larger base salary but then tapers their bonus to make total compensation pretty much equal to the Chicago market. As such, Kirkland really is the only Chicago firm last year that exceeded the Chicago market by a considerable amount (and did so via large bonuses). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532059) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 4:04 PM Author: Twisted Bateful Blood Rage Does Skadden's move to 160 change your mind? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532209) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:49 PM Author: white electric locale psychic At this point, I think you have to at least assume that Kirkland moves to 145k, leaving a 15k gap where there used to be a 10k gap. The charts still show a slight advantage for Kirkland but really I don't think anybody knows the impact of the recent salary raise on bonuses. The partners at Kirkland have to be a little peeved after thinking they had a winner with the large bonus only to have Simpson play the ball right back at them.
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 4:06 PM Author: Duck-like Set kirkland should be a V5, and skadden shouldn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532240) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 9:26 PM Author: sepia provocative karate new version i turned down offers from both. there are better firms in chicago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7534171) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 11:44 PM Author: Twisted Bateful Blood Rage link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535015) |
Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:38 PM Author: Sienna hairraiser organic girlfriend Subject: on writ of certiorari to the XO SCOTUS XO SCOTUS delivered the opinion of the Court.
oneiota, the original poster ("OP"), asks whether he should "go" to the law firm of Skadden Arps ("Skadden") or Kirkland & Ellis ("Kirkland").
We first consider whether OP has standing to raise this question. “In essence the question of standing is whether the litigant is entitled to have the court decide the merits of the dispute or of particular issues.” Warth v. Seldin, 422 U.S. 490, 498 (1975). As OP does not have an offer from either firm—he in fact concedes his inquiry is "hypothetical"—OP cannot plausibly lie within the zone of interest required by our decision in Allen v. Wright, 468 U.S. 737 (1984). We therefore conclude that OP lacks standing to start this thread.
We pause to note that OP's claim also fails to demonstrate ripeness. We said in Texas v. United States that "a claim is not ripe for adjudication if it rests upon contingent future events that may not occur as anticipated, or indeed may not occur at all." 523 U.S. 296, 300 (1998). OP's request for information on offers he does not have is precisely the kind of "contingent future event" our jurisprudence has rejected as premature.
This thread is therefore dismissed with prejudice. OP may pursue any further navel-gazing he wishes not inconsistent with this opinion.
It is so ordered. |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:41 PM Author: razzle chestnut selfie pozpig 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532757) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:48 PM Author: alcoholic ocher field nibblets 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532803) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:26 PM Author: cerise becky trailer park 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532974) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:27 PM Author: Soul-stirring Library Flawless. Sublime.
180 |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:31 PM Author: Dashing Ceo Yarmulke OP should appeal to the real SCOTXO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532999) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:33 PM Author: Bright lodge patrolman Bravo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7533006) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 11:45 PM Author: Twisted Bateful Blood Rage ouch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535020) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2007 12:01 AM Author: Azure Sinister Pocket Flask This is great. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535122) |
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Date: February 4th, 2007 9:18 PM Author: French orchestra pit 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7545021) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 3:31 PM Author: Titillating poppy potus foreskin beyond amazing. this could rival the dungeonmasTTTer in terms of shtick potential. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7555012) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 4:04 PM Author: Mauve Garrison Really Tough Guy You leave my boss out of this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7555222) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 7:07 PM Author: Yapping seedy piazza 180 bump. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8583713) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 7:49 PM Author: Mind-boggling metal keepsake machete tytyty. when will teh next XO SCOTUS session be? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8583816) |
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Date: September 1st, 2007 2:56 PM Author: Massive twinkling space depressive awesome.
did this dood do any more, or was this a one-shot schtick? |
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Date: June 1st, 2008 1:23 AM Author: Multi-colored halford moar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#9847558) |
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Date: June 1st, 2008 1:28 AM Author: blue gas station stain it was funnier in 2007. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#9847567) |
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Date: June 7th, 2008 11:01 AM Author: canary heady area deer antler this was MTG
http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=19797#19978 |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:57 PM Author: Mint station you shouldn't have filed in federal XO court dude. rookie mistake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7533149) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:44 PM Author: Twisted Bateful Blood Rage UPDATE: have callbacks at both. This case may SRSLY be ripe in the near future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584303) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:46 PM Author: Coral Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan yfwgi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584311) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:48 PM Author: Twisted Bateful Blood Rage or, I asked an honest Q and got pwned, then later pwned OCI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584315) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:49 PM Author: Territorial Menage Messiness "UPDATE: have callbacks at both."
you the man now, dog. |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:00 PM Author: Vibrant chapel So, we're to believe that a poster (who has barely posted a single thing in 8 months besides this horrible OP) happens to see this thread on the day it gets bumped and also just happens to have callbacks at both.
Sorry, whokebe, much easier to believe that you're an alternate moniker of a reg and came here to salvage what was left of your damaged pride.
*poop* |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:48 PM Author: Pontificating bipolar business firm wagecucks Chicago is a fucking hole in the wall cow town. why the fuck would you ever want to go there for 10 minutes let alone live there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584314) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:49 PM Author: Twisted Bateful Blood Rage Sorry, hate NYC and LA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584319) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:52 PM Author: Pontificating bipolar business firm wagecucks "hate NYC"
Translation: "couldn't last 30 seconds in NYC and couldn't get a job in NYC even if you sucked off every v100 partner in the city"
have fun in cornfield town |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:57 PM Author: Twisted Bateful Blood Rage Jesus Christ you are stupid. NYC is a MUCH easier market than Chicago...ANYONE at a decent school could get a Vault firm in NYC.
And hey, good luck at St. John's OCI. |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:59 PM Author: Pontificating bipolar business firm wagecucks sorry, I'm not a lawyer. would never dream of it.
the reason the chicago market is so shitty is because every fucking TTT NU, UIUC, and rancid Chicago-Kent grad, not to mention all the loyola and dePaul mouth breathers are climbing over each other trying to get jobs. |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:01 PM Author: Vibrant chapel Right, and NYC doesn't have Cardozo, St John's, Fordham, NYLS...
You're a fucking moron |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:03 PM Author: Pontificating bipolar business firm wagecucks and you probably get fucking laughed at with your 30k/yr nonprofittt job in Chicago. i would rather graduate from Cardozo an fucking work for a non vault 100 firm in NYC than skadden in Chicago any day. chicago is a fucking joke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584354) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:04 PM Author: Vibrant chapel This post literally makes no sense. Does retardation run in your family? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584359) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:03 PM Author: Twisted Bateful Blood Rage Then go to a firm where those people aren't allowed in - there's plenty.
Do you think 100 NYC firms populated with Pace, NYLS, Brooklyn, St Johns, Cardozo and Fordham grads are better?
I can see why you won't be a lawyer - your reasoning skills are shit. Back to the UG board, where you belong. |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:19 PM Author: Pontificating bipolar business firm wagecucks good thing i easily make 2.5x your salary, you fucking mouth breather (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584403) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:30 PM Author: Twisted Bateful Blood Rage 2.5 * 0 = 0 sounds about right.
Unless you meant my future salary...for some reason I don't think you make 400k. Just a hunch. |
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Date: September 1st, 2007 2:53 PM Author: autistic dilemma more and more chicago owns nyc anyways. nyc = dirty ttt in decline. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8586342) |
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