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Skadden vs. Kirkland [Chicago]

Of course it's hypothetical at this point, but assuming I go...
Disturbing church building
  02/02/07
I know the thing about the bonuses, but isn't Kirkland's sal...
Charismatic shimmering address
  02/02/07
yup.
drab space
  02/02/07
Yeah I meant with the bonuses, Kirkland still pays above Chi...
Disturbing church building
  02/02/07
Chicago market is CLEARLY at least 145k, if not 160.
Aquamarine maniacal mad cow disease
  08/31/07
a lot has happened since Feb
Disturbing church building
  08/31/07
whoa..yeah..you're right!
Aquamarine maniacal mad cow disease
  08/31/07
In general I think you have more opportunities to shine when...
provocative crawly place of business
  02/02/07
why is this? I also read harder to get partnership at a bra...
Disturbing church building
  02/02/07
One thing to think about is bonuses. While Skadden gives the...
maroon hell
  02/02/07
Does Skadden's move to 160 change your mind?
Disturbing church building
  02/02/07
At this point, I think you have to at least assume that Kirk...
maroon hell
  02/02/07
kirkland should be a V5, and skadden shouldn't.
sienna trailer park
  02/02/07
i turned down offers from both. there are better firms in c...
stimulating bonkers box office
  02/02/07
link?
Disturbing church building
  02/02/07
on writ of certiorari to the XO SCOTUS
Domesticated Temple Quadroon
  02/02/07
180
exhilarant garnet stag film gaming laptop
  02/02/07
180
sexy tripping center gaping
  02/02/07
180
Mildly autistic lettuce
  02/02/07
Flawless. Sublime. 180
Razzmatazz hideous institution
  02/02/07
OP should appeal to the real SCOTXO.
Floppy pearl library
  02/02/07
Bravo.
Tan goal in life
  02/02/07
ouch
Disturbing church building
  02/02/07
This is great.
avocado hateful piazza preventive strike
  02/03/07
180
ebony motley dog poop
  02/04/07
beyond amazing. this could rival the dungeonmasTTTer in term...
Excitant chest-beating doctorate public bath
  02/06/07
You leave my boss out of this.
nighttime ivory factory reset button dilemma
  02/06/07
180 bump.
Self-centered hairraiser potus old irish cottage
  08/31/07
tytyty. when will teh next XO SCOTUS session be?
Big sandwich nursing home
  08/31/07
awesome. did this dood do any more, or was this a one-sho...
khaki blood rage step-uncle's house
  09/01/07
moar
Out-of-control bawdyhouse
  06/01/08
it was funnier in 2007.
Narrow-minded light dragon
  06/01/08
this was MTG http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.js...
Slap-happy Office Hairy Legs
  06/07/08
you shouldn't have filed in federal XO court dude. rookie m...
white abusive locus
  02/02/07
UPDATE: have callbacks at both. This case may SRSLY be ripe...
Disturbing church building
  08/31/07
yfwgi
Brilliant mind-boggling garrison newt
  08/31/07
or, I asked an honest Q and got pwned, then later pwned OCI
Disturbing church building
  08/31/07
"UPDATE: have callbacks at both." you the man ...
Cracking Idiot Meetinghouse
  08/31/07
So, we're to believe that a poster (who has barely posted a ...
pale galvanic cuckoldry antidepressant drug
  08/31/07
Chicago is a fucking hole in the wall cow town. why the fuc...
Insecure Parlour Pocket Flask
  08/31/07
Sorry, hate NYC and LA
Disturbing church building
  08/31/07
"hate NYC" Translation: "couldn't last 30 ...
Insecure Parlour Pocket Flask
  08/31/07
Jesus Christ you are stupid. NYC is a MUCH easier market th...
Disturbing church building
  08/31/07
sorry, I'm not a lawyer. would never dream of it. the re...
Insecure Parlour Pocket Flask
  08/31/07
Right, and NYC doesn't have Cardozo, St John's, Fordham, NYL...
pale galvanic cuckoldry antidepressant drug
  08/31/07
and you probably get fucking laughed at with your 30k/yr non...
Insecure Parlour Pocket Flask
  08/31/07
This post literally makes no sense. Does retardation run in...
pale galvanic cuckoldry antidepressant drug
  08/31/07
Then go to a firm where those people aren't allowed in - the...
Disturbing church building
  08/31/07
good thing i easily make 2.5x your salary, you fucking mouth...
Insecure Parlour Pocket Flask
  08/31/07
2.5 * 0 = 0 sounds about right. Unless you meant my futu...
Disturbing church building
  08/31/07
more and more chicago owns nyc anyways. nyc = dirty ttt in ...
citrine jap cruise ship
  09/01/07
bump
hairless exciting striped hyena
  10/28/07


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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:26 PM
Author: Disturbing church building

Of course it's hypothetical at this point, but assuming I got offers at both, where to go? Seems like both pay above market in Chicago and make you work above market hours. Thoughts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531933)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:29 PM
Author: Charismatic shimmering address

I know the thing about the bonuses, but isn't Kirkland's salary in Chicago still $135k?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531962)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:33 PM
Author: drab space

yup.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531992)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:33 PM
Author: Disturbing church building

Yeah I meant with the bonuses, Kirkland still pays above Chicago market, which is still 135 for now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531996)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:08 PM
Author: Aquamarine maniacal mad cow disease

Chicago market is CLEARLY at least 145k, if not 160.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584369)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:09 PM
Author: Disturbing church building

a lot has happened since Feb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584372)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:10 PM
Author: Aquamarine maniacal mad cow disease

whoa..yeah..you're right!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584376)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:29 PM
Author: provocative crawly place of business

In general I think you have more opportunities to shine when you're working at the mothership than if you're at a branch office.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531963)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:32 PM
Author: Disturbing church building

why is this? I also read harder to get partnership at a branch, any truth to this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531987)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:44 PM
Author: maroon hell

One thing to think about is bonuses. While Skadden gives the entire class the same bonus, Kirkland rewards those that put in more hours than their peers with a larger bonus. So if you work more, you get paid for it, which seems fair. Skadden does provide a larger base salary but then tapers their bonus to make total compensation pretty much equal to the Chicago market. As such, Kirkland really is the only Chicago firm last year that exceeded the Chicago market by a considerable amount (and did so via large bonuses).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532059)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 4:04 PM
Author: Disturbing church building

Does Skadden's move to 160 change your mind?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532209)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:49 PM
Author: maroon hell

At this point, I think you have to at least assume that Kirkland moves to 145k, leaving a 15k gap where there used to be a 10k gap. The charts still show a slight advantage for Kirkland but really I don't think anybody knows the impact of the recent salary raise on bonuses. The partners at Kirkland have to be a little peeved after thinking they had a winner with the large bonus only to have Simpson play the ball right back at them.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532812)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 4:06 PM
Author: sienna trailer park

kirkland should be a V5, and skadden shouldn't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532240)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 9:26 PM
Author: stimulating bonkers box office

i turned down offers from both. there are better firms in chicago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7534171)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 11:44 PM
Author: Disturbing church building

link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535015)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:38 PM
Author: Domesticated Temple Quadroon
Subject: on writ of certiorari to the XO SCOTUS

XO SCOTUS delivered the opinion of the Court.

oneiota, the original poster ("OP"), asks whether he should "go" to the law firm of Skadden Arps ("Skadden") or Kirkland & Ellis ("Kirkland").

We first consider whether OP has standing to raise this question. “In essence the question of standing is whether the litigant is entitled to have the court decide the merits of the dispute or of particular issues.” Warth v. Seldin, 422 U.S. 490, 498 (1975). As OP does not have an offer from either firm—he in fact concedes his inquiry is "hypothetical"—OP cannot plausibly lie within the zone of interest required by our decision in Allen v. Wright, 468 U.S. 737 (1984). We therefore conclude that OP lacks standing to start this thread.

We pause to note that OP's claim also fails to demonstrate ripeness. We said in Texas v. United States that "a claim is not ripe for adjudication if it rests upon contingent future events that may not occur as anticipated, or indeed may not occur at all." 523 U.S. 296, 300 (1998). OP's request for information on offers he does not have is precisely the kind of "contingent future event" our jurisprudence has rejected as premature.

This thread is therefore dismissed with prejudice. OP may pursue any further navel-gazing he wishes not inconsistent with this opinion.

It is so ordered.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532736)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:41 PM
Author: exhilarant garnet stag film gaming laptop

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532757)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:48 PM
Author: sexy tripping center gaping

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532803)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:26 PM
Author: Mildly autistic lettuce

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532974)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:27 PM
Author: Razzmatazz hideous institution

Flawless. Sublime.

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532983)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:31 PM
Author: Floppy pearl library

OP should appeal to the real SCOTXO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532999)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:33 PM
Author: Tan goal in life

Bravo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7533006)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 11:45 PM
Author: Disturbing church building

ouch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535020)





Date: February 3rd, 2007 12:01 AM
Author: avocado hateful piazza preventive strike

This is great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535122)





Date: February 4th, 2007 9:18 PM
Author: ebony motley dog poop

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7545021)





Date: February 6th, 2007 3:31 PM
Author: Excitant chest-beating doctorate public bath

beyond amazing. this could rival the dungeonmasTTTer in terms of shtick potential.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7555012)





Date: February 6th, 2007 4:04 PM
Author: nighttime ivory factory reset button dilemma

You leave my boss out of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7555222)





Date: August 31st, 2007 7:07 PM
Author: Self-centered hairraiser potus old irish cottage

180 bump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8583713)





Date: August 31st, 2007 7:49 PM
Author: Big sandwich nursing home

tytyty. when will teh next XO SCOTUS session be?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8583816)





Date: September 1st, 2007 2:56 PM
Author: khaki blood rage step-uncle's house

awesome.

did this dood do any more, or was this a one-shot schtick?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8586365)





Date: June 1st, 2008 1:23 AM
Author: Out-of-control bawdyhouse

moar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#9847558)





Date: June 1st, 2008 1:28 AM
Author: Narrow-minded light dragon

it was funnier in 2007.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#9847567)





Date: June 7th, 2008 11:01 AM
Author: Slap-happy Office Hairy Legs

this was MTG

http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=19797#19978

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#9866947)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:57 PM
Author: white abusive locus

you shouldn't have filed in federal XO court dude. rookie mistake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7533149)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:44 PM
Author: Disturbing church building

UPDATE: have callbacks at both. This case may SRSLY be ripe in the near future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584303)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:46 PM
Author: Brilliant mind-boggling garrison newt

yfwgi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584311)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:48 PM
Author: Disturbing church building

or, I asked an honest Q and got pwned, then later pwned OCI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584315)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:49 PM
Author: Cracking Idiot Meetinghouse

"UPDATE: have callbacks at both."

you the man now, dog.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584317)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:00 PM
Author: pale galvanic cuckoldry antidepressant drug

So, we're to believe that a poster (who has barely posted a single thing in 8 months besides this horrible OP) happens to see this thread on the day it gets bumped and also just happens to have callbacks at both.

Sorry, whokebe, much easier to believe that you're an alternate moniker of a reg and came here to salvage what was left of your damaged pride.

*poop*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584349)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:48 PM
Author: Insecure Parlour Pocket Flask

Chicago is a fucking hole in the wall cow town. why the fuck would you ever want to go there for 10 minutes let alone live there?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584314)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:49 PM
Author: Disturbing church building

Sorry, hate NYC and LA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584319)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:52 PM
Author: Insecure Parlour Pocket Flask

"hate NYC"

Translation: "couldn't last 30 seconds in NYC and couldn't get a job in NYC even if you sucked off every v100 partner in the city"

have fun in cornfield town

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584326)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:57 PM
Author: Disturbing church building

Jesus Christ you are stupid. NYC is a MUCH easier market than Chicago...ANYONE at a decent school could get a Vault firm in NYC.

And hey, good luck at St. John's OCI.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584340)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:59 PM
Author: Insecure Parlour Pocket Flask

sorry, I'm not a lawyer. would never dream of it.

the reason the chicago market is so shitty is because every fucking TTT NU, UIUC, and rancid Chicago-Kent grad, not to mention all the loyola and dePaul mouth breathers are climbing over each other trying to get jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584343)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:01 PM
Author: pale galvanic cuckoldry antidepressant drug

Right, and NYC doesn't have Cardozo, St John's, Fordham, NYLS...

You're a fucking moron

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584351)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:03 PM
Author: Insecure Parlour Pocket Flask

and you probably get fucking laughed at with your 30k/yr nonprofittt job in Chicago. i would rather graduate from Cardozo an fucking work for a non vault 100 firm in NYC than skadden in Chicago any day. chicago is a fucking joke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584354)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:04 PM
Author: pale galvanic cuckoldry antidepressant drug

This post literally makes no sense. Does retardation run in your family?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584359)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:03 PM
Author: Disturbing church building

Then go to a firm where those people aren't allowed in - there's plenty.

Do you think 100 NYC firms populated with Pace, NYLS, Brooklyn, St Johns, Cardozo and Fordham grads are better?

I can see why you won't be a lawyer - your reasoning skills are shit. Back to the UG board, where you belong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584356)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:19 PM
Author: Insecure Parlour Pocket Flask

good thing i easily make 2.5x your salary, you fucking mouth breather

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584403)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:30 PM
Author: Disturbing church building

2.5 * 0 = 0

sounds about right.

Unless you meant my future salary...for some reason I don't think you make 400k. Just a hunch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584442)





Date: September 1st, 2007 2:53 PM
Author: citrine jap cruise ship

more and more chicago owns nyc anyways. nyc = dirty ttt in decline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8586342)





Date: October 28th, 2007 8:46 PM
Author: hairless exciting striped hyena

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8823887)