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Skadden vs. Kirkland [Chicago]
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:26 PM Author: odious stead Of course it's hypothetical at this point, but assuming I got offers at both, where to go? Seems like both pay above market in Chicago and make you work above market hours. Thoughts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531933) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:29 PM Author: Dashing heaven I know the thing about the bonuses, but isn't Kirkland's salary in Chicago still $135k? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531962) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:33 PM Author: Orchid slimy national dysfunction yup. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531992) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:33 PM Author: odious stead Yeah I meant with the bonuses, Kirkland still pays above Chicago market, which is still 135 for now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531996) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:08 PM Author: Naked digit ratio Chicago market is CLEARLY at least 145k, if not 160. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584369) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:09 PM Author: odious stead a lot has happened since Feb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584372) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:10 PM Author: Naked digit ratio whoa..yeah..you're right! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584376) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:29 PM Author: nubile maroon boltzmann In general I think you have more opportunities to shine when you're working at the mothership than if you're at a branch office. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531963) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:32 PM Author: odious stead why is this? I also read harder to get partnership at a branch, any truth to this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531987) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:44 PM Author: laughsome slate orchestra pit One thing to think about is bonuses. While Skadden gives the entire class the same bonus, Kirkland rewards those that put in more hours than their peers with a larger bonus. So if you work more, you get paid for it, which seems fair. Skadden does provide a larger base salary but then tapers their bonus to make total compensation pretty much equal to the Chicago market. As such, Kirkland really is the only Chicago firm last year that exceeded the Chicago market by a considerable amount (and did so via large bonuses). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532059) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 4:04 PM Author: odious stead Does Skadden's move to 160 change your mind? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532209) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:49 PM Author: laughsome slate orchestra pit At this point, I think you have to at least assume that Kirkland moves to 145k, leaving a 15k gap where there used to be a 10k gap. The charts still show a slight advantage for Kirkland but really I don't think anybody knows the impact of the recent salary raise on bonuses. The partners at Kirkland have to be a little peeved after thinking they had a winner with the large bonus only to have Simpson play the ball right back at them.
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 4:06 PM Author: violet balding piazza laser beams kirkland should be a V5, and skadden shouldn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532240) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 9:26 PM Author: contagious pistol state i turned down offers from both. there are better firms in chicago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7534171) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 11:44 PM Author: odious stead link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535015) |
Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:38 PM Author: concupiscible double fault Subject: on writ of certiorari to the XO SCOTUS XO SCOTUS delivered the opinion of the Court.
oneiota, the original poster ("OP"), asks whether he should "go" to the law firm of Skadden Arps ("Skadden") or Kirkland & Ellis ("Kirkland").
We first consider whether OP has standing to raise this question. “In essence the question of standing is whether the litigant is entitled to have the court decide the merits of the dispute or of particular issues.” Warth v. Seldin, 422 U.S. 490, 498 (1975). As OP does not have an offer from either firm—he in fact concedes his inquiry is "hypothetical"—OP cannot plausibly lie within the zone of interest required by our decision in Allen v. Wright, 468 U.S. 737 (1984). We therefore conclude that OP lacks standing to start this thread.
We pause to note that OP's claim also fails to demonstrate ripeness. We said in Texas v. United States that "a claim is not ripe for adjudication if it rests upon contingent future events that may not occur as anticipated, or indeed may not occur at all." 523 U.S. 296, 300 (1998). OP's request for information on offers he does not have is precisely the kind of "contingent future event" our jurisprudence has rejected as premature.
This thread is therefore dismissed with prejudice. OP may pursue any further navel-gazing he wishes not inconsistent with this opinion.
It is so ordered. |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:41 PM Author: stubborn ivory forum 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532757) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:26 PM Author: Rambunctious adventurous hall 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532974) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:27 PM Author: pale violent corner Flawless. Sublime.
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:31 PM Author: electric organic girlfriend messiness OP should appeal to the real SCOTXO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532999) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:33 PM Author: splenetic masturbator Bravo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7533006) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 11:45 PM Author: odious stead ouch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535020) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2007 12:01 AM Author: Magical Arousing Meetinghouse This is great. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535122) |
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Date: February 4th, 2007 9:18 PM Author: White elite station 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7545021) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 3:31 PM Author: rusted stag film beyond amazing. this could rival the dungeonmasTTTer in terms of shtick potential. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7555012) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 4:04 PM Author: At-the-ready ape jewess You leave my boss out of this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7555222) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 7:49 PM Author: Hairraiser sepia lodge gay wizard tytyty. when will teh next XO SCOTUS session be? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8583816) |
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Date: September 1st, 2007 2:56 PM Author: Metal olive wagecucks milk awesome.
did this dood do any more, or was this a one-shot schtick? |
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Date: June 1st, 2008 1:23 AM Author: free-loading umber rehab legend moar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#9847558) |
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Date: June 1st, 2008 1:28 AM Author: cracking sanctuary it was funnier in 2007. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#9847567) |
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Date: June 7th, 2008 11:01 AM Author: sienna mind-boggling nursing home this was MTG
http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=19797#19978 |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:57 PM Author: razzmatazz anal gaping kitty cat you shouldn't have filed in federal XO court dude. rookie mistake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7533149) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:44 PM Author: odious stead UPDATE: have callbacks at both. This case may SRSLY be ripe in the near future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584303) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:46 PM Author: Yapping canary fanboi candlestick maker yfwgi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584311) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:48 PM Author: odious stead or, I asked an honest Q and got pwned, then later pwned OCI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584315) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:49 PM Author: Maniacal Hot Spot Stain "UPDATE: have callbacks at both."
you the man now, dog. |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:00 PM Author: Vengeful ebony trailer park psychic So, we're to believe that a poster (who has barely posted a single thing in 8 months besides this horrible OP) happens to see this thread on the day it gets bumped and also just happens to have callbacks at both.
Sorry, whokebe, much easier to believe that you're an alternate moniker of a reg and came here to salvage what was left of your damaged pride.
*poop* |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:48 PM Author: sable appetizing hospital Chicago is a fucking hole in the wall cow town. why the fuck would you ever want to go there for 10 minutes let alone live there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584314) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:49 PM Author: odious stead Sorry, hate NYC and LA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584319) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:52 PM Author: sable appetizing hospital "hate NYC"
Translation: "couldn't last 30 seconds in NYC and couldn't get a job in NYC even if you sucked off every v100 partner in the city"
have fun in cornfield town |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:57 PM Author: odious stead Jesus Christ you are stupid. NYC is a MUCH easier market than Chicago...ANYONE at a decent school could get a Vault firm in NYC.
And hey, good luck at St. John's OCI. |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:59 PM Author: sable appetizing hospital sorry, I'm not a lawyer. would never dream of it.
the reason the chicago market is so shitty is because every fucking TTT NU, UIUC, and rancid Chicago-Kent grad, not to mention all the loyola and dePaul mouth breathers are climbing over each other trying to get jobs. |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:01 PM Author: Vengeful ebony trailer park psychic Right, and NYC doesn't have Cardozo, St John's, Fordham, NYLS...
You're a fucking moron |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:03 PM Author: sable appetizing hospital and you probably get fucking laughed at with your 30k/yr nonprofittt job in Chicago. i would rather graduate from Cardozo an fucking work for a non vault 100 firm in NYC than skadden in Chicago any day. chicago is a fucking joke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584354) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:04 PM Author: Vengeful ebony trailer park psychic This post literally makes no sense. Does retardation run in your family? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584359) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:03 PM Author: odious stead Then go to a firm where those people aren't allowed in - there's plenty.
Do you think 100 NYC firms populated with Pace, NYLS, Brooklyn, St Johns, Cardozo and Fordham grads are better?
I can see why you won't be a lawyer - your reasoning skills are shit. Back to the UG board, where you belong. |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:19 PM Author: sable appetizing hospital good thing i easily make 2.5x your salary, you fucking mouth breather (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584403) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:30 PM Author: odious stead 2.5 * 0 = 0 sounds about right.
Unless you meant my future salary...for some reason I don't think you make 400k. Just a hunch. |
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Date: September 1st, 2007 2:53 PM Author: Stimulating principal's office tattoo more and more chicago owns nyc anyways. nyc = dirty ttt in decline. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8586342) |
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Date: October 28th, 2007 8:46 PM Author: provocative blathering pit bump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8823887) |