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Skadden vs. Kirkland [Chicago]
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:26 PM Author: concupiscible field Of course it's hypothetical at this point, but assuming I got offers at both, where to go? Seems like both pay above market in Chicago and make you work above market hours. Thoughts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531933) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:29 PM Author: Bat Shit Crazy Laser Beams Parlour I know the thing about the bonuses, but isn't Kirkland's salary in Chicago still $135k? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531962) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:33 PM Author: topaz well-lubricated gunner yup. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531992) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:33 PM Author: concupiscible field Yeah I meant with the bonuses, Kirkland still pays above Chicago market, which is still 135 for now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531996) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:08 PM Author: domesticated pit Chicago market is CLEARLY at least 145k, if not 160. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584369) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:09 PM Author: concupiscible field a lot has happened since Feb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584372) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:10 PM Author: domesticated pit whoa..yeah..you're right! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584376) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:29 PM Author: Confused Juggernaut In general I think you have more opportunities to shine when you're working at the mothership than if you're at a branch office. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531963) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:32 PM Author: concupiscible field why is this? I also read harder to get partnership at a branch, any truth to this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531987) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:44 PM Author: shivering opaque orchestra pit private investor One thing to think about is bonuses. While Skadden gives the entire class the same bonus, Kirkland rewards those that put in more hours than their peers with a larger bonus. So if you work more, you get paid for it, which seems fair. Skadden does provide a larger base salary but then tapers their bonus to make total compensation pretty much equal to the Chicago market. As such, Kirkland really is the only Chicago firm last year that exceeded the Chicago market by a considerable amount (and did so via large bonuses). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532059) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 4:04 PM Author: concupiscible field Does Skadden's move to 160 change your mind? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532209) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:49 PM Author: shivering opaque orchestra pit private investor At this point, I think you have to at least assume that Kirkland moves to 145k, leaving a 15k gap where there used to be a 10k gap. The charts still show a slight advantage for Kirkland but really I don't think anybody knows the impact of the recent salary raise on bonuses. The partners at Kirkland have to be a little peeved after thinking they had a winner with the large bonus only to have Simpson play the ball right back at them.
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 4:06 PM Author: razzmatazz stead kirkland should be a V5, and skadden shouldn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532240) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 9:26 PM Author: Slippery address i turned down offers from both. there are better firms in chicago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7534171) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 11:44 PM Author: concupiscible field link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535015) |
Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:38 PM Author: charcoal marketing idea Subject: on writ of certiorari to the XO SCOTUS XO SCOTUS delivered the opinion of the Court.
oneiota, the original poster ("OP"), asks whether he should "go" to the law firm of Skadden Arps ("Skadden") or Kirkland & Ellis ("Kirkland").
We first consider whether OP has standing to raise this question. “In essence the question of standing is whether the litigant is entitled to have the court decide the merits of the dispute or of particular issues.” Warth v. Seldin, 422 U.S. 490, 498 (1975). As OP does not have an offer from either firm—he in fact concedes his inquiry is "hypothetical"—OP cannot plausibly lie within the zone of interest required by our decision in Allen v. Wright, 468 U.S. 737 (1984). We therefore conclude that OP lacks standing to start this thread.
We pause to note that OP's claim also fails to demonstrate ripeness. We said in Texas v. United States that "a claim is not ripe for adjudication if it rests upon contingent future events that may not occur as anticipated, or indeed may not occur at all." 523 U.S. 296, 300 (1998). OP's request for information on offers he does not have is precisely the kind of "contingent future event" our jurisprudence has rejected as premature.
This thread is therefore dismissed with prejudice. OP may pursue any further navel-gazing he wishes not inconsistent with this opinion.
It is so ordered. |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:41 PM Author: hateful soul-stirring depressive 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532757) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:48 PM Author: black persian tank 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532803) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:26 PM Author: anal titillating meetinghouse 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532974) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:27 PM Author: laughsome flirting shrine Flawless. Sublime.
180 |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:31 PM Author: Lemon Chest-beating Mad Cow Disease OP should appeal to the real SCOTXO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532999) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:33 PM Author: cracking ultramarine toaster Bravo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7533006) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 11:45 PM Author: concupiscible field ouch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535020) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2007 12:01 AM Author: light office puppy This is great. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535122) |
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Date: February 4th, 2007 9:18 PM Author: Zombie-like Naked Trailer Park 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7545021) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 4:04 PM Author: doobsian infuriating forum electric furnace You leave my boss out of this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7555222) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 7:07 PM Author: Supple Flickering Newt Jap 180 bump. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8583713) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 7:49 PM Author: dashing costumed lodge therapy tytyty. when will teh next XO SCOTUS session be? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8583816) |
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Date: September 1st, 2007 2:56 PM Author: sadistic feces resort awesome.
did this dood do any more, or was this a one-shot schtick? |
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Date: June 1st, 2008 1:28 AM Author: Coiffed water buffalo rehab it was funnier in 2007. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#9847567) |
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Date: June 7th, 2008 11:01 AM Author: cordovan odious nursing home this was MTG
http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=19797#19978 |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:57 PM Author: primrose church building sneaky criminal you shouldn't have filed in federal XO court dude. rookie mistake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7533149) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:44 PM Author: concupiscible field UPDATE: have callbacks at both. This case may SRSLY be ripe in the near future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584303) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:48 PM Author: concupiscible field or, I asked an honest Q and got pwned, then later pwned OCI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584315) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:49 PM Author: flesh hairraiser pisswyrm friendly grandma "UPDATE: have callbacks at both."
you the man now, dog. |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:00 PM Author: very tactful state telephone So, we're to believe that a poster (who has barely posted a single thing in 8 months besides this horrible OP) happens to see this thread on the day it gets bumped and also just happens to have callbacks at both.
Sorry, whokebe, much easier to believe that you're an alternate moniker of a reg and came here to salvage what was left of your damaged pride.
*poop* |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:48 PM Author: aphrodisiac point scourge upon the earth Chicago is a fucking hole in the wall cow town. why the fuck would you ever want to go there for 10 minutes let alone live there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584314) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:49 PM Author: concupiscible field Sorry, hate NYC and LA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584319) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:52 PM Author: aphrodisiac point scourge upon the earth "hate NYC"
Translation: "couldn't last 30 seconds in NYC and couldn't get a job in NYC even if you sucked off every v100 partner in the city"
have fun in cornfield town |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:57 PM Author: concupiscible field Jesus Christ you are stupid. NYC is a MUCH easier market than Chicago...ANYONE at a decent school could get a Vault firm in NYC.
And hey, good luck at St. John's OCI. |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:59 PM Author: aphrodisiac point scourge upon the earth sorry, I'm not a lawyer. would never dream of it.
the reason the chicago market is so shitty is because every fucking TTT NU, UIUC, and rancid Chicago-Kent grad, not to mention all the loyola and dePaul mouth breathers are climbing over each other trying to get jobs. |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:01 PM Author: very tactful state telephone Right, and NYC doesn't have Cardozo, St John's, Fordham, NYLS...
You're a fucking moron |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:03 PM Author: aphrodisiac point scourge upon the earth and you probably get fucking laughed at with your 30k/yr nonprofittt job in Chicago. i would rather graduate from Cardozo an fucking work for a non vault 100 firm in NYC than skadden in Chicago any day. chicago is a fucking joke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584354) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:04 PM Author: very tactful state telephone This post literally makes no sense. Does retardation run in your family? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584359) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:03 PM Author: concupiscible field Then go to a firm where those people aren't allowed in - there's plenty.
Do you think 100 NYC firms populated with Pace, NYLS, Brooklyn, St Johns, Cardozo and Fordham grads are better?
I can see why you won't be a lawyer - your reasoning skills are shit. Back to the UG board, where you belong. |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:19 PM Author: aphrodisiac point scourge upon the earth good thing i easily make 2.5x your salary, you fucking mouth breather (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584403) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:30 PM Author: concupiscible field 2.5 * 0 = 0 sounds about right.
Unless you meant my future salary...for some reason I don't think you make 400k. Just a hunch. |
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Date: September 1st, 2007 2:53 PM Author: scarlet cumskin station more and more chicago owns nyc anyways. nyc = dirty ttt in decline. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8586342) |
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Date: October 28th, 2007 8:46 PM Author: citrine twinkling uncleanness bump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8823887) |