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Skadden vs. Kirkland [Chicago]

Of course it's hypothetical at this point, but assuming I go...
Turquoise appetizing national psychic
  02/02/07
I know the thing about the bonuses, but isn't Kirkland's sal...
arousing sex offender half-breed
  02/02/07
yup.
exciting peach jewess meetinghouse
  02/02/07
Yeah I meant with the bonuses, Kirkland still pays above Chi...
Turquoise appetizing national psychic
  02/02/07
Chicago market is CLEARLY at least 145k, if not 160.
Big Casino
  08/31/07
a lot has happened since Feb
Turquoise appetizing national psychic
  08/31/07
whoa..yeah..you're right!
Big Casino
  08/31/07
In general I think you have more opportunities to shine when...
Irate talented space
  02/02/07
why is this? I also read harder to get partnership at a bra...
Turquoise appetizing national psychic
  02/02/07
One thing to think about is bonuses. While Skadden gives the...
flushed lay goyim
  02/02/07
Does Skadden's move to 160 change your mind?
Turquoise appetizing national psychic
  02/02/07
At this point, I think you have to at least assume that Kirk...
flushed lay goyim
  02/02/07
kirkland should be a V5, and skadden shouldn't.
Histrionic anal reading party shitlib
  02/02/07
i turned down offers from both. there are better firms in c...
dun fighting office french chef
  02/02/07
link?
Turquoise appetizing national psychic
  02/02/07
on writ of certiorari to the XO SCOTUS
costumed abode private investor
  02/02/07
180
godawful forum
  02/02/07
180
sickened immigrant locus
  02/02/07
180
House-broken bistre dragon
  02/02/07
Flawless. Sublime. 180
Infuriating theater stage
  02/02/07
OP should appeal to the real SCOTXO.
sepia stain
  02/02/07
Bravo.
Cream Marvelous Nibblets
  02/02/07
ouch
Turquoise appetizing national psychic
  02/02/07
This is great.
Gaped bisexual internal respiration parlor
  02/03/07
180
crawly fragrant plaza idiot
  02/04/07
beyond amazing. this could rival the dungeonmasTTTer in term...
ebony school
  02/06/07
You leave my boss out of this.
avocado stage therapy
  02/06/07
180 bump.
snowy aromatic national security agency place of business
  08/31/07
tytyty. when will teh next XO SCOTUS session be?
floppy stag film old irish cottage
  08/31/07
awesome. did this dood do any more, or was this a one-sho...
Disrespectful Adventurous Station
  09/01/07
moar
Razzle-dazzle whorehouse really tough guy
  06/01/08
it was funnier in 2007.
Naked locale
  06/01/08
this was MTG http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.js...
pearly judgmental garrison crotch
  06/07/08
you shouldn't have filed in federal XO court dude. rookie m...
bronze blathering stock car
  02/02/07
UPDATE: have callbacks at both. This case may SRSLY be ripe...
Turquoise appetizing national psychic
  08/31/07
yfwgi
copper laughsome doctorate
  08/31/07
or, I asked an honest Q and got pwned, then later pwned OCI
Turquoise appetizing national psychic
  08/31/07
"UPDATE: have callbacks at both." you the man ...
Fantasy-prone orchestra pit water buffalo
  08/31/07
So, we're to believe that a poster (who has barely posted a ...
supple hall degenerate
  08/31/07
Chicago is a fucking hole in the wall cow town. why the fuc...
Flirting glittery police squad pit
  08/31/07
Sorry, hate NYC and LA
Turquoise appetizing national psychic
  08/31/07
"hate NYC" Translation: "couldn't last 30 ...
Flirting glittery police squad pit
  08/31/07
Jesus Christ you are stupid. NYC is a MUCH easier market th...
Turquoise appetizing national psychic
  08/31/07
sorry, I'm not a lawyer. would never dream of it. the re...
Flirting glittery police squad pit
  08/31/07
Right, and NYC doesn't have Cardozo, St John's, Fordham, NYL...
supple hall degenerate
  08/31/07
and you probably get fucking laughed at with your 30k/yr non...
Flirting glittery police squad pit
  08/31/07
This post literally makes no sense. Does retardation run in...
supple hall degenerate
  08/31/07
Then go to a firm where those people aren't allowed in - the...
Turquoise appetizing national psychic
  08/31/07
good thing i easily make 2.5x your salary, you fucking mouth...
Flirting glittery police squad pit
  08/31/07
2.5 * 0 = 0 sounds about right. Unless you meant my futu...
Turquoise appetizing national psychic
  08/31/07
more and more chicago owns nyc anyways. nyc = dirty ttt in ...
Disturbing quadroon
  09/01/07
bump
Pale alpha cuckoldry
  10/28/07


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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:26 PM
Author: Turquoise appetizing national psychic

Of course it's hypothetical at this point, but assuming I got offers at both, where to go? Seems like both pay above market in Chicago and make you work above market hours. Thoughts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531933)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:29 PM
Author: arousing sex offender half-breed

I know the thing about the bonuses, but isn't Kirkland's salary in Chicago still $135k?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531962)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:33 PM
Author: exciting peach jewess meetinghouse

yup.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531992)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:33 PM
Author: Turquoise appetizing national psychic

Yeah I meant with the bonuses, Kirkland still pays above Chicago market, which is still 135 for now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531996)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:08 PM
Author: Big Casino

Chicago market is CLEARLY at least 145k, if not 160.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584369)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:09 PM
Author: Turquoise appetizing national psychic

a lot has happened since Feb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584372)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:10 PM
Author: Big Casino

whoa..yeah..you're right!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584376)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:29 PM
Author: Irate talented space

In general I think you have more opportunities to shine when you're working at the mothership than if you're at a branch office.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531963)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:32 PM
Author: Turquoise appetizing national psychic

why is this? I also read harder to get partnership at a branch, any truth to this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531987)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:44 PM
Author: flushed lay goyim

One thing to think about is bonuses. While Skadden gives the entire class the same bonus, Kirkland rewards those that put in more hours than their peers with a larger bonus. So if you work more, you get paid for it, which seems fair. Skadden does provide a larger base salary but then tapers their bonus to make total compensation pretty much equal to the Chicago market. As such, Kirkland really is the only Chicago firm last year that exceeded the Chicago market by a considerable amount (and did so via large bonuses).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532059)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 4:04 PM
Author: Turquoise appetizing national psychic

Does Skadden's move to 160 change your mind?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532209)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:49 PM
Author: flushed lay goyim

At this point, I think you have to at least assume that Kirkland moves to 145k, leaving a 15k gap where there used to be a 10k gap. The charts still show a slight advantage for Kirkland but really I don't think anybody knows the impact of the recent salary raise on bonuses. The partners at Kirkland have to be a little peeved after thinking they had a winner with the large bonus only to have Simpson play the ball right back at them.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532812)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 4:06 PM
Author: Histrionic anal reading party shitlib

kirkland should be a V5, and skadden shouldn't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532240)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 9:26 PM
Author: dun fighting office french chef

i turned down offers from both. there are better firms in chicago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7534171)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 11:44 PM
Author: Turquoise appetizing national psychic

link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535015)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:38 PM
Author: costumed abode private investor
Subject: on writ of certiorari to the XO SCOTUS

XO SCOTUS delivered the opinion of the Court.

oneiota, the original poster ("OP"), asks whether he should "go" to the law firm of Skadden Arps ("Skadden") or Kirkland & Ellis ("Kirkland").

We first consider whether OP has standing to raise this question. “In essence the question of standing is whether the litigant is entitled to have the court decide the merits of the dispute or of particular issues.” Warth v. Seldin, 422 U.S. 490, 498 (1975). As OP does not have an offer from either firm—he in fact concedes his inquiry is "hypothetical"—OP cannot plausibly lie within the zone of interest required by our decision in Allen v. Wright, 468 U.S. 737 (1984). We therefore conclude that OP lacks standing to start this thread.

We pause to note that OP's claim also fails to demonstrate ripeness. We said in Texas v. United States that "a claim is not ripe for adjudication if it rests upon contingent future events that may not occur as anticipated, or indeed may not occur at all." 523 U.S. 296, 300 (1998). OP's request for information on offers he does not have is precisely the kind of "contingent future event" our jurisprudence has rejected as premature.

This thread is therefore dismissed with prejudice. OP may pursue any further navel-gazing he wishes not inconsistent with this opinion.

It is so ordered.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532736)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:41 PM
Author: godawful forum

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532757)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:48 PM
Author: sickened immigrant locus

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532803)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:26 PM
Author: House-broken bistre dragon

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532974)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:27 PM
Author: Infuriating theater stage

Flawless. Sublime.

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532983)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:31 PM
Author: sepia stain

OP should appeal to the real SCOTXO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532999)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:33 PM
Author: Cream Marvelous Nibblets

Bravo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7533006)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 11:45 PM
Author: Turquoise appetizing national psychic

ouch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535020)





Date: February 3rd, 2007 12:01 AM
Author: Gaped bisexual internal respiration parlor

This is great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535122)





Date: February 4th, 2007 9:18 PM
Author: crawly fragrant plaza idiot

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7545021)





Date: February 6th, 2007 3:31 PM
Author: ebony school

beyond amazing. this could rival the dungeonmasTTTer in terms of shtick potential.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7555012)





Date: February 6th, 2007 4:04 PM
Author: avocado stage therapy

You leave my boss out of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7555222)





Date: August 31st, 2007 7:07 PM
Author: snowy aromatic national security agency place of business

180 bump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8583713)





Date: August 31st, 2007 7:49 PM
Author: floppy stag film old irish cottage

tytyty. when will teh next XO SCOTUS session be?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8583816)





Date: September 1st, 2007 2:56 PM
Author: Disrespectful Adventurous Station

awesome.

did this dood do any more, or was this a one-shot schtick?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8586365)





Date: June 1st, 2008 1:23 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle whorehouse really tough guy

moar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#9847558)





Date: June 1st, 2008 1:28 AM
Author: Naked locale

it was funnier in 2007.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#9847567)





Date: June 7th, 2008 11:01 AM
Author: pearly judgmental garrison crotch

this was MTG

http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=19797#19978

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#9866947)





Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:57 PM
Author: bronze blathering stock car

you shouldn't have filed in federal XO court dude. rookie mistake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7533149)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:44 PM
Author: Turquoise appetizing national psychic

UPDATE: have callbacks at both. This case may SRSLY be ripe in the near future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584303)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:46 PM
Author: copper laughsome doctorate

yfwgi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584311)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:48 PM
Author: Turquoise appetizing national psychic

or, I asked an honest Q and got pwned, then later pwned OCI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584315)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:49 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone orchestra pit water buffalo

"UPDATE: have callbacks at both."

you the man now, dog.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584317)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:00 PM
Author: supple hall degenerate

So, we're to believe that a poster (who has barely posted a single thing in 8 months besides this horrible OP) happens to see this thread on the day it gets bumped and also just happens to have callbacks at both.

Sorry, whokebe, much easier to believe that you're an alternate moniker of a reg and came here to salvage what was left of your damaged pride.

*poop*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584349)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:48 PM
Author: Flirting glittery police squad pit

Chicago is a fucking hole in the wall cow town. why the fuck would you ever want to go there for 10 minutes let alone live there?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584314)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:49 PM
Author: Turquoise appetizing national psychic

Sorry, hate NYC and LA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584319)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:52 PM
Author: Flirting glittery police squad pit

"hate NYC"

Translation: "couldn't last 30 seconds in NYC and couldn't get a job in NYC even if you sucked off every v100 partner in the city"

have fun in cornfield town

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584326)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:57 PM
Author: Turquoise appetizing national psychic

Jesus Christ you are stupid. NYC is a MUCH easier market than Chicago...ANYONE at a decent school could get a Vault firm in NYC.

And hey, good luck at St. John's OCI.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584340)





Date: August 31st, 2007 10:59 PM
Author: Flirting glittery police squad pit

sorry, I'm not a lawyer. would never dream of it.

the reason the chicago market is so shitty is because every fucking TTT NU, UIUC, and rancid Chicago-Kent grad, not to mention all the loyola and dePaul mouth breathers are climbing over each other trying to get jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584343)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:01 PM
Author: supple hall degenerate

Right, and NYC doesn't have Cardozo, St John's, Fordham, NYLS...

You're a fucking moron

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584351)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:03 PM
Author: Flirting glittery police squad pit

and you probably get fucking laughed at with your 30k/yr nonprofittt job in Chicago. i would rather graduate from Cardozo an fucking work for a non vault 100 firm in NYC than skadden in Chicago any day. chicago is a fucking joke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584354)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:04 PM
Author: supple hall degenerate

This post literally makes no sense. Does retardation run in your family?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584359)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:03 PM
Author: Turquoise appetizing national psychic

Then go to a firm where those people aren't allowed in - there's plenty.

Do you think 100 NYC firms populated with Pace, NYLS, Brooklyn, St Johns, Cardozo and Fordham grads are better?

I can see why you won't be a lawyer - your reasoning skills are shit. Back to the UG board, where you belong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584356)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:19 PM
Author: Flirting glittery police squad pit

good thing i easily make 2.5x your salary, you fucking mouth breather

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584403)





Date: August 31st, 2007 11:30 PM
Author: Turquoise appetizing national psychic

2.5 * 0 = 0

sounds about right.

Unless you meant my future salary...for some reason I don't think you make 400k. Just a hunch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584442)





Date: September 1st, 2007 2:53 PM
Author: Disturbing quadroon

more and more chicago owns nyc anyways. nyc = dirty ttt in decline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8586342)





Date: October 28th, 2007 8:46 PM
Author: Pale alpha cuckoldry

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8823887)