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Skadden vs. Kirkland [Chicago]
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:26 PM Author: Angry indecent gunner Of course it's hypothetical at this point, but assuming I got offers at both, where to go? Seems like both pay above market in Chicago and make you work above market hours. Thoughts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531933) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:29 PM Author: Bonkers Friendly Grandma I know the thing about the bonuses, but isn't Kirkland's salary in Chicago still $135k? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531962) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:33 PM Author: Chrome Plaza yup. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531992) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:33 PM Author: Angry indecent gunner Yeah I meant with the bonuses, Kirkland still pays above Chicago market, which is still 135 for now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531996) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:08 PM Author: pearly dead immigrant market Chicago market is CLEARLY at least 145k, if not 160. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584369) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:09 PM Author: Angry indecent gunner a lot has happened since Feb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584372) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:10 PM Author: pearly dead immigrant market whoa..yeah..you're right! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584376) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:29 PM Author: arrogant house In general I think you have more opportunities to shine when you're working at the mothership than if you're at a branch office. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531963) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:32 PM Author: Angry indecent gunner why is this? I also read harder to get partnership at a branch, any truth to this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7531987) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 3:44 PM Author: tantric ultramarine associate One thing to think about is bonuses. While Skadden gives the entire class the same bonus, Kirkland rewards those that put in more hours than their peers with a larger bonus. So if you work more, you get paid for it, which seems fair. Skadden does provide a larger base salary but then tapers their bonus to make total compensation pretty much equal to the Chicago market. As such, Kirkland really is the only Chicago firm last year that exceeded the Chicago market by a considerable amount (and did so via large bonuses). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532059) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 4:04 PM Author: Angry indecent gunner Does Skadden's move to 160 change your mind? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532209) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:49 PM Author: tantric ultramarine associate At this point, I think you have to at least assume that Kirkland moves to 145k, leaving a 15k gap where there used to be a 10k gap. The charts still show a slight advantage for Kirkland but really I don't think anybody knows the impact of the recent salary raise on bonuses. The partners at Kirkland have to be a little peeved after thinking they had a winner with the large bonus only to have Simpson play the ball right back at them.
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 4:06 PM Author: splenetic judgmental chapel kirkland should be a V5, and skadden shouldn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532240) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 9:26 PM Author: charcoal nursing home therapy i turned down offers from both. there are better firms in chicago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7534171) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 11:44 PM Author: Angry indecent gunner link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535015) |
Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:38 PM Author: exciting white kitchen Subject: on writ of certiorari to the XO SCOTUS XO SCOTUS delivered the opinion of the Court.
oneiota, the original poster ("OP"), asks whether he should "go" to the law firm of Skadden Arps ("Skadden") or Kirkland & Ellis ("Kirkland").
We first consider whether OP has standing to raise this question. “In essence the question of standing is whether the litigant is entitled to have the court decide the merits of the dispute or of particular issues.” Warth v. Seldin, 422 U.S. 490, 498 (1975). As OP does not have an offer from either firm—he in fact concedes his inquiry is "hypothetical"—OP cannot plausibly lie within the zone of interest required by our decision in Allen v. Wright, 468 U.S. 737 (1984). We therefore conclude that OP lacks standing to start this thread.
We pause to note that OP's claim also fails to demonstrate ripeness. We said in Texas v. United States that "a claim is not ripe for adjudication if it rests upon contingent future events that may not occur as anticipated, or indeed may not occur at all." 523 U.S. 296, 300 (1998). OP's request for information on offers he does not have is precisely the kind of "contingent future event" our jurisprudence has rejected as premature.
This thread is therefore dismissed with prejudice. OP may pursue any further navel-gazing he wishes not inconsistent with this opinion.
It is so ordered. |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:41 PM Author: confused persian native 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532757) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 5:48 PM Author: stubborn know-it-all volcanic crater 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532803) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:26 PM Author: Green people who are hurt 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532974) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:27 PM Author: Sienna mewling stead love of her life Flawless. Sublime.
180 |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:31 PM Author: adventurous navy gay wizard tanning salon OP should appeal to the real SCOTXO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7532999) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:33 PM Author: Motley Pearl Heaven Messiness Bravo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7533006) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 11:45 PM Author: Angry indecent gunner ouch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535020) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2007 12:01 AM Author: Doobsian transparent laser beams parlor This is great. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7535122) |
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Date: February 4th, 2007 9:18 PM Author: flesh school 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7545021) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 3:31 PM Author: Domesticated parlour cuck beyond amazing. this could rival the dungeonmasTTTer in terms of shtick potential. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7555012) |
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Date: February 6th, 2007 4:04 PM Author: Excitant Ruddy Forum You leave my boss out of this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7555222) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 7:07 PM Author: Odious chest-beating gas station 180 bump. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8583713) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 7:49 PM Author: honey-headed turdskin tytyty. when will teh next XO SCOTUS session be? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8583816) |
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Date: September 1st, 2007 2:56 PM Author: Hyperventilating Public Bath Azn awesome.
did this dood do any more, or was this a one-shot schtick? |
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Date: June 1st, 2008 1:23 AM Author: Vivacious stage elastic band moar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#9847558) |
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Date: June 1st, 2008 1:28 AM Author: Titillating sanctuary it was funnier in 2007. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#9847567) |
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Date: June 7th, 2008 11:01 AM Author: trip location macaca this was MTG
http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=19797#19978 |
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Date: February 2nd, 2007 6:57 PM Author: azure low-t ticket booth philosopher-king you shouldn't have filed in federal XO court dude. rookie mistake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#7533149) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:44 PM Author: Angry indecent gunner UPDATE: have callbacks at both. This case may SRSLY be ripe in the near future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584303) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:46 PM Author: Talented lime station yfwgi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584311) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:48 PM Author: Angry indecent gunner or, I asked an honest Q and got pwned, then later pwned OCI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584315) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:49 PM Author: Lemon curious senate "UPDATE: have callbacks at both."
you the man now, dog. |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:00 PM Author: Glittery french dysfunction So, we're to believe that a poster (who has barely posted a single thing in 8 months besides this horrible OP) happens to see this thread on the day it gets bumped and also just happens to have callbacks at both.
Sorry, whokebe, much easier to believe that you're an alternate moniker of a reg and came here to salvage what was left of your damaged pride.
*poop* |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:48 PM Author: Racy avocado cuckold Chicago is a fucking hole in the wall cow town. why the fuck would you ever want to go there for 10 minutes let alone live there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584314) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:49 PM Author: Angry indecent gunner Sorry, hate NYC and LA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584319) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:52 PM Author: Racy avocado cuckold "hate NYC"
Translation: "couldn't last 30 seconds in NYC and couldn't get a job in NYC even if you sucked off every v100 partner in the city"
have fun in cornfield town |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:57 PM Author: Angry indecent gunner Jesus Christ you are stupid. NYC is a MUCH easier market than Chicago...ANYONE at a decent school could get a Vault firm in NYC.
And hey, good luck at St. John's OCI. |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 10:59 PM Author: Racy avocado cuckold sorry, I'm not a lawyer. would never dream of it.
the reason the chicago market is so shitty is because every fucking TTT NU, UIUC, and rancid Chicago-Kent grad, not to mention all the loyola and dePaul mouth breathers are climbing over each other trying to get jobs. |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:01 PM Author: Glittery french dysfunction Right, and NYC doesn't have Cardozo, St John's, Fordham, NYLS...
You're a fucking moron |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:03 PM Author: Racy avocado cuckold and you probably get fucking laughed at with your 30k/yr nonprofittt job in Chicago. i would rather graduate from Cardozo an fucking work for a non vault 100 firm in NYC than skadden in Chicago any day. chicago is a fucking joke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584354) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:04 PM Author: Glittery french dysfunction This post literally makes no sense. Does retardation run in your family? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584359) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:03 PM Author: Angry indecent gunner Then go to a firm where those people aren't allowed in - there's plenty.
Do you think 100 NYC firms populated with Pace, NYLS, Brooklyn, St Johns, Cardozo and Fordham grads are better?
I can see why you won't be a lawyer - your reasoning skills are shit. Back to the UG board, where you belong. |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:19 PM Author: Racy avocado cuckold good thing i easily make 2.5x your salary, you fucking mouth breather (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8584403) |
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Date: August 31st, 2007 11:30 PM Author: Angry indecent gunner 2.5 * 0 = 0 sounds about right.
Unless you meant my future salary...for some reason I don't think you make 400k. Just a hunch. |
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Date: September 1st, 2007 2:53 PM Author: frozen giraffe shrine more and more chicago owns nyc anyways. nyc = dirty ttt in decline. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8586342) |
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Date: October 28th, 2007 8:46 PM Author: razzle-dazzle boiling water bump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=573864&forum_id=2#8823887) |