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NU student urges others not to post on xo about SBA president
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:28 AM Author: Henna Thirsty Ticket Booth Pocket Flask My response:
Sorry, but this sort of stuff shouldn't be kept hidden, precisely *because* it influences the school's reputation. Prospective law students considering multiple T14s absolutely should know about this whole situation so they can take it into account in their decision making process.
Also, I don't see the problem with putting some sunshine on the whole thing -- for one thing, having the story "out there" will reduce the sort of misinformation that's apparently spread through word of mouth in Chicago's legal community. Furthermore, both sides shouldn't have a problem with people knowing about this dispute -- if the NU administration acted correctly, there is nothing to fear by making this thing known, and if the administration did not act correctly, outside pressure should help them reverse course and do the right thing here.
Original email:
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My dear classmates,
I don't like spamming the listserv, but I'm making a small request pretty please-- kindly refrain from publishing information onto the xoxohth.com messageboard. Not only are those messages going to be archived (like forever) that could potentially upset individuals' careers but it looks like "certain" students are being targeted and humiliated in this messageboard and this is appalling, psychologically disruptive, and not to mention, perhaps defamatory.
Believe it or not, the recent NU Law events as of late are already spreading to law firms...I'm serious. I've heard "interesting and twisted versions" of the story coming from California and it sounds like Chicago has already gotten serious wind of it. This is OUR school-- whether you are a 1L, 2L, or 3L, or LLM student, the way in which WE portray our school and ourselves now ultimately affects your future and the respect and dignity you seek from your employer or potential employer. Perhaps a law firm will second-guess whether to come to our school for OCIs; or maybe a judge will be hesitant to seek out NU Law students based on our behavior as a community. After all, their reputation to the legal community is on the line as well.
Continuing to belittle a classmate's intelligence or slam an individual's character is a bit unprofessional, no? It does not matter if you are doing it anonymously or not. I thought most of us "worked" for some time before we came to GRADUATE school. So before you send a sarcastic email or make fun of someone's intelligence or humiliate them in a messageboard...ask yourself: if i were in a business or working environment, would it be acceptable and would i feel comfortable sending out this email to my ENTIRE copmany or posting this message on the Company's cafeteria fridge? Hopefully you would consider using the same discretion over these "airwaves" as well. After all, just like Peter's emails came to haunt him, your comments on the listserve or in a messageboard like xoxohth could as well...whether it is anonymous (seriously anything can be traced back to the sender) or not.
We are a community and this is our school and we are classmates, colleagues, and friends. I respect how everyone feels-- no doubt, we are all going through a rough patch right now. But fueling this fire by inviting other individuals to comment on hearsay about SPECIFIC individuals is unwarranted and frankly, disrespectful. You can help stop this by practicing self-control (ie, not posting Peter's emails on this messageboard to making false character assessments about specific classmates) or finding other activities (like running or discussing over coffee w/ friends) to let out your concerns/frustration. It's YOUR RIGHT to be frustrated. Absolutely YES. But it's not fair to slam one another without 100% of the facts and with utter disrespect. How would you feel if this were happening to you? And it's only going to hurt you back in the end when the school you pay $40,000 in tuition to a year is looked down upon by your future colleagues and potential employers.
At this point, I feel that we, students, need to UNITE as a community and WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION to solve this recent bout of events. So please, let's practice building from this situation and not destructing each other. I love NU Law and I have had such an AMAZING experience here...I hope you have too or that you have the chance to also. Let's work with this administration and learn from these recent events and re-build our community once again.
Respect is the best way to get the message across and the safest way to get a respectful message back. Have a wonderful evening and I hope you do not make fun of my email... :-)
Take care, [redacted] |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:34 AM Author: sepia dilemma sure that's not flame? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558790) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:38 AM Author: Henna Thirsty Ticket Booth Pocket Flask Well it was supposedly sent to the NU listserv so if it's flame we'll likely know soon enough. However given the source and given the length of the email I'd be amazed if it was flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558809) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:38 AM Author: Claret Vivacious Office LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558814) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:47 AM Author: Henna Thirsty Ticket Booth Pocket Flask Yeah, that was my reaction too, especially to the "At this point, I feel that we, students, need to UNITE as a community and WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION to solve this recent bout of events."
Given that the NU administration apparently caused this whole problem in the first place and hasn't really shown any signs of remedying the situation in a positive way, it's pretty weird for this guy to just want everyone to shut up and "unite" to "work with the administration."
Furthermore you'd think that the fact that this story is being widely disseminated and makes NU look bad would be a sign to everyone involved that the administration screwed up royally and needs to change its position on this issue. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:51 AM Author: Claret Vivacious Office EXACTLY. this is exactly the sort of shit people considering NU Law should know. the moral of the story is that if you don't want people to know about the idiotic shit you do, then don't do idiotic shit. i think you hit the nail on the head: the administration and students have absolutely nothing to worry about if they acted appropriately here. like i said below, you did good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558902) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:53 AM Author: Internet-worthy obsidian halford space This guy is just fanning the flames. Everyone already knows about this controversy, it was on the WSJ blog. The best thing to do know is shut up about it and let it die. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558917) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:58 AM Author: embarrassed to the bone new version dude give it a fucking rest. We get it, you're a conservative. This isn't about that. The guy was a fucking retard; even George Allen would be embarrassed at his lack of discretion.
It's not the administration's fault. The guy fucked up in his official capacity as the SBA president. If they did nothing, what right do they have to take part in any student affairs at all? You're losing it pal. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:17 AM Author: Curious hairy legs you're losing it. no imaginative and biting "inbred cracker faggot" comments to throw in there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559036) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:15 AM Author: wine bateful temple associate What did the sba pres do? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559016) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:18 AM Author: Henna Thirsty Ticket Booth Pocket Flask http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575703&mc=217&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559039) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 4:40 AM Author: Ultramarine Contagious Idiot Deer Antler Wow... whatdawegothere?
Some appealing to self-interest, arguing that everyone will be better off with a coverup.
Some not too subtle threats against those who post and are outed.
A few irrelevant attempts at 'well, what if YOU'D seriously screwed the pooch--would YOU want to have to face totally legitimate consequences for that?!'
Some fucking insulting and Big Brotheresque attempts to tell fellow students about their feelings and what they should do with them...
Yeeeaaaah... so glad I shitcanned Northwestern's offer to apply. Sounds like a hole. |
Date: February 7th, 2007 1:42 AM Author: Sadistic Hot Stage hAHAHAHA
"GRADUATE school"
Fag. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:48 AM Author: Claret Vivacious Office gto, you did good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558879) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:49 AM Author: Internet-worthy obsidian halford space I don't think anyone who reads this board respected NU in the first place. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558882) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:50 AM Author: scarlet keepsake machete Subject: lol some people just can't handle a breakfast with the chief justice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558890) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:52 AM Author: Vigorous sooty fortuitous meteor first, whothe fuck thinks capitalizing like that is effective writing?
second, that sounds suspiciously like madame cunt |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:55 AM Author: anal primrose university blood rage ok, that's just random viciousness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558925) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:01 AM Author: turquoise costumed factory reset button I laughed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558947) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:45 AM Author: pearl sanctuary You sound like TITO ORTIZ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559871) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:53 AM Author: hideous cobalt school He makes a valid point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558914) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:55 AM Author: flickering vibrant lay stain Meanest Fish maybe? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558926) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:57 AM Author: anal primrose university blood rage random viciousness! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558931) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:57 AM Author: flickering vibrant lay stain sup cuntface? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558935) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:59 AM Author: anal primrose university blood rage talking to yourself is not a major sign of mental health. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558941) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:58 AM Author: Claret Vivacious Office the SBA douchebag was actually a pretty solid writer. maybe this guy is one of the spurned URMs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558936) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:59 AM Author: Curious hairy legs doesnt this douche realize xoxo is just 4 random douches with 5000 monikers apiece? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558939) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:02 AM Author: turquoise costumed factory reset button Hi Machobreeze! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558955) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:18 AM Author: Curious hairy legs Never say that. Goddamn I hate that asshole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559045) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:00 AM Author: embarrassed to the bone new version wow, THIS guy is SUCH a fucking INBRED SMALL-DICKED LITTLE CUNT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558943) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:08 AM Author: Vigorous sooty fortuitous meteor based on the NU posters here and this kind of shit, that place must be a fucking zoo. what the fuck do they teach there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558977) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:14 AM Author: Internet-worthy obsidian halford space NU: #1 in BIGCHANGESLAW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559008) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:15 AM Author: aquamarine mother NU: #1 in #2INCHICAGOLAW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559018) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 2:17 AM Author: Internet-worthy obsidian halford space damn, yours was wittier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559031) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 7:49 AM Author: Impertinent nowag field 178...
ahhh fuck it, why am i gonna be stingy on this? 180. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 8:31 AM Author: hairraiser library We've got a future George Luce on our hands. Also, how cheesed off does this SOB have to be seeing his email posted here now. Someone post his name, email, future firm, facebook picture, cellphone number, girlfriend's cup size and his genetic markers for predisposition to testicular cancer please. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559501) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:14 AM Author: Topaz place of business mad-dog skullcap summary of GTO's post: "thank god people arent talking about the Penn shooter anymore!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559760) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:15 AM Author: overrated garrison Haha nice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559762) |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 10:17 AM Author: Aromatic church building jap http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=573288&mc=18&forum_id=2#7559472
It IS a little odd that he waited a week to weigh in. |
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Date: February 7th, 2007 11:17 AM Author: vermilion sandwich ladyboy Northwestern should have paid to fly the presidents of nu law's ethnic orgs to dc to have breakfast with roberts. problem solved and their whining would have stopped. |
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Date: February 8th, 2007 2:48 PM Author: Odious cuckoldry set You think Roberts would have agreed to that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7567393) |
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Date: February 8th, 2007 2:46 PM Author: supple theater stage bbw BREAKING NEWS: Cliff Zimmerman has challenged PP to a "walk off", to be held at the bar review tonight. I've heard Cliff can't turn left, though.
This whole thing is so fucking retarded. |
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Date: February 8th, 2007 2:51 PM Author: khaki talented location I refuse to believe that someone with "JD, Rutgers-Newark University" is anything less than an intellectual heavyweight. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7567411) |
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Date: February 8th, 2007 2:55 PM Author: glittery mad cow disease Yeah - because "JD, WUSTL, beer hall" is so much better
Cliff is actually a really nice guy |
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Date: February 8th, 2007 2:57 PM Author: mauve french coffee pot he is nice but he fucked up here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7567439) |
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Date: February 8th, 2007 2:59 PM Author: khaki talented location Fair enough Cliff, I guess I misjudged you.
Hug? |
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Date: February 8th, 2007 3:01 PM Author: supple theater stage bbw That would be beyond hilarious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7567474) |
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Date: February 8th, 2007 3:00 PM Author: supple theater stage bbw I find his "Hey, finals are almost done, gang!" e-mails to be cheesy and disturbing at the same time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7567463) |
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Date: February 8th, 2007 3:04 PM Author: khaki talented location "Gang"
Seriously, where does he think he works, Penn? |
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Date: February 8th, 2007 3:14 PM Author: mauve french coffee pot i heard cliff was a crip before embarking on a legal career to "make a difference".
probably vestigial terminology for him. |