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Will you watch my CA9 argument next week? "Swinging dicks" judge on panel (epah)

Next Tuesday at 9:00 PDT One of my judges is this fellow: h...
indigo lay
  06/01/26
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Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library
  06/01/26
what's it about, your fee award on trendsettah or some robin...
Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library
  06/02/26
Whether the UK company that owns OnlyFans is subject to pers...
indigo lay
  06/05/26
Lol jfc. Are there still open questions like *that* on inte...
180 rough-skinned public bath
  06/05/26
It's not *actually an open question, it's just a kindly elde...
indigo lay
  06/05/26
Are you going after the "creators" individually?
Razzle-dazzle apoplectic center
  06/09/26
The Creators did nothing wrong.
indigo lay
  06/09/26
Might be the one time in history that class members would pr...
180 rough-skinned public bath
  06/09/26
...
Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library
  06/05/26
This is tomorrow guys FYI
indigo lay
  06/08/26
I will jump on as soon as my property tax protest hearing is...
exciting jet-lagged theater jap
  06/08/26
Thanks man. First argument, and only 10 mins/side, so we'll...
indigo lay
  06/08/26
Orrick v EPAH Get your bets in now
Disturbing provocative shrine
  06/08/26
epah by a mile
indigo lay
  06/08/26
you've been litigating this since 2022? i didn't even reali...
Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library
  06/08/26
Lol, yeah. Our SOL goes back to summer 2018. By the time o...
indigo lay
  06/08/26
...
Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library
  06/08/26
Tremendous lawyering. I have not thought about such personal...
exciting jet-lagged theater jap
  06/09/26
Lol thanks man. I’m now a little embarrassed to have e...
indigo lay
  06/09/26
You did good. You had the better argument. How long are you ...
exciting jet-lagged theater jap
  06/09/26
It’s beautiful and 66 here rn but I’m headed bac...
indigo lay
  06/09/26
great report, sorry i missed it
Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library
  06/09/26
What are damages like in Onlyfans-recurring-charges litigati...
Razzle-dazzle apoplectic center
  06/09/26
On its face it's just restitution of the "unlawful"...
indigo lay
  06/09/26
...
Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library
  06/09/26
This isn't the most sympathetic class of plaintiffs though. ...
Razzle-dazzle apoplectic center
  06/09/26
fraud is fraud
Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library
  06/09/26
The money has to go somewhere. It’d be weird for a per...
indigo lay
  06/09/26
Just rewatched this. And realized that the case will likely...
indigo lay
  06/28/26
That Tall Man is Cr and 180
carnelian talking liquid oxygen brunch
  06/28/26
honestly i believe your scholarship carried the day here bef...
Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library
  06/30/26
Big surprise; we won. Height-of-lawyer theory remains u...
indigo lay
  06/30/26
...
carnelian talking liquid oxygen brunch
  06/30/26
congrats. what happens next in the case, is there a pile of ...
Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library
  06/30/26
This is just to establish that OF is subject to jurisdiction...
indigo lay
  07/01/26
...
Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library
  07/01/26
EPAH represents the Simps Hagens Berman represents the Cr...
N904PD
  08/13/26


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Date: June 1st, 2026 11:44 PM
Author: indigo lay

Next Tuesday at 9:00 PDT

One of my judges is this fellow: https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5845118&mc=6&forum_id=2#top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49910818)



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Date: June 1st, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49910820)



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Date: June 2nd, 2026 6:52 PM
Author: Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library

what's it about, your fee award on trendsettah or some robinson patman act stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49911719)



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Date: June 5th, 2026 4:19 PM
Author: indigo lay

Whether the UK company that owns OnlyFans is subject to personal jurisdiction in CA.

(We've sued them under CA's Automatic Renewal Law for automatically renewing "Fans'" subscriptions to "Creators" without disclosing that it'll be a recurring charge. Our kindly elderly judge determined that they're not subject to Jx in CA because they hadn't "specifically targeted" California consumers)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49917025)



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Date: June 5th, 2026 4:24 PM
Author: 180 rough-skinned public bath

Lol jfc. Are there still open questions like *that* on internet minimum contacts? Just set up your site to not allow California IP addresses, like how when I take depos in red states now I have to use my imagination to jerk off because porn sites want my DL and birth certificate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49917027)



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Date: June 5th, 2026 4:30 PM
Author: indigo lay

It's not *actually an open question, it's just a kindly elderly judge who assumed that Orrick biglolyers probably know a lot about jurisdiction, so we should do what they say.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49917032)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 1:58 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle apoplectic center

Are you going after the "creators" individually?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49925493)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 3:23 PM
Author: indigo lay

The Creators did nothing wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49925689)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 8:24 PM
Author: 180 rough-skinned public bath

Might be the one time in history that class members would prefer an in-kind suck-n-fuck coupon settlement over whatever nominal $$ they'd otherwise get.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49926483)



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Date: June 5th, 2026 9:59 PM
Author: Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49917746)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 3:11 PM
Author: indigo lay

This is tomorrow guys FYI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49923044)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: exciting jet-lagged theater jap

I will jump on as soon as my property tax protest hearing is over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49923058)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 3:19 PM
Author: indigo lay

Thanks man. First argument, and only 10 mins/side, so we'll be pau by 9:30 at the latest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49923061)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 3:13 PM
Author: Disturbing provocative shrine

Orrick v EPAH

Get your bets in now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49923048)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 3:15 PM
Author: indigo lay

epah by a mile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49923052)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library

you've been litigating this since 2022? i didn't even realize onlyfans has been around that long - i guess it pays to be an early adopter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49924087)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: indigo lay

Lol, yeah. Our SOL goes back to summer 2018. By the time of judgment it's going to be 10 years of all auto-renewals in CA. It'll be well over $1B by then. Unfortunately our only claim is under the UCL so it'll be a judge deciding, and obv he'll think of some way to pare it down, like perhaps to only the first renewal, and then say, "the user should have reviewed his cc statement and known better."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49924117)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49924129)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 12:27 PM
Author: exciting jet-lagged theater jap

Tremendous lawyering. I have not thought about such personal jurisdiction issues in years and the deep analysis was both majestic and scholarly. I also thought that your short rebuttal that put the focus back on the subsequent conduct of the Defendant was superb. Laser focused. You came back into the ring like Mike Tyson and dropped the mic on that nerd lawyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49925237)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 12:43 PM
Author: indigo lay

Lol thanks man. I’m now a little embarrassed to have even posted it, it was so uneventful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49925288)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 12:45 PM
Author: exciting jet-lagged theater jap

You did good. You had the better argument. How long are you staying in SF for? I wish I was in SF today. It's hot as fuck here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49925300)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 1:46 PM
Author: indigo lay

It’s beautiful and 66 here rn but I’m headed back to the airport (after coming in at 6:00 on a redeye). Can’t stand to be away from HI even for a minute.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49925471)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 7:52 PM
Author: Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library

great report, sorry i missed it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49926434)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 1:59 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle apoplectic center

What are damages like in Onlyfans-recurring-charges litigation? Do plaintiffs have a duty to mitigate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49925494)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 3:26 PM
Author: indigo lay

On its face it's just restitution of the "unlawful" charges. We have Judge Breyer who is supposed to be unafraid of nuclear judgments, so we'll see what unfolds (there's surprisingly little caselaw as to whether at some point the consumer is required to review their charges and unsubscribe -- perhaps especially once they've first realized how it works)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49925699)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 7:56 PM
Author: Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49926437)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 8:00 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle apoplectic center

This isn't the most sympathetic class of plaintiffs though. What other remedies are available?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49926443)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library

fraud is fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49926552)



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Date: June 9th, 2026 9:08 PM
Author: indigo lay

The money has to go somewhere. It’d be weird for a person taking that moral view to conclude that it’s better for the pornographer to keep it than to give it back to the lonely masturbators and shut-ins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49926576)



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Date: June 28th, 2026 12:08 AM
Author: indigo lay

Just rewatched this. And realized that the case will likely be decided by the height transition from 18:16 to 18:30: https://youtu.be/V3P2ZxZwI9E?t=1096

Esp at 19:11, when the video guy is like, "whoa, this is a Tall Man," and has to adjust the camera.

Basically game over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49966677)



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Date: June 28th, 2026 12:13 AM
Author: carnelian talking liquid oxygen brunch

That Tall Man is Cr and 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49966679)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 10:53 PM
Author: Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library

honestly i believe your scholarship carried the day here before you even need to get to height, lol at that dude's argument that there's no onlyfans contact/aiming/directing to california

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49972710)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 2:40 PM
Author: indigo lay

Big surprise; we won.

Height-of-lawyer theory remains undefeated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49971482)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 10:38 PM
Author: carnelian talking liquid oxygen brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49972680)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:03 PM
Author: Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library

congrats. what happens next in the case, is there a pile of money as damages yet or is that the next step

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49972728)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 2:33 PM
Author: indigo lay

This is just to establish that OF is subject to jurisdiction in CA. They've since changed their subscription process to more-or-less comply with the law, but there should still be tens of million$ in illegal charge$ that we can have refunded to the victims (minus 25% + costs).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49973861)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 7:21 PM
Author: Vivacious ruddy indirect expression library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#49974508)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 8:12 PM
Author: N904PD

EPAH represents the Simps

Hagens Berman represents the Creators. That’s the difference

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.1033777/gov.uscourts.cacd.1033777.1.0_1.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870537&forum_id=2#50066512)