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If they threaten to shut down this board, I bet most of you ...

... fucking run away, you fucking chickens. How many of y...
Dashing dopamine garrison
  04/26/07
I would run away, rather than have my name and reputation at...
abusive wild main people
  04/26/07
You're an idiot if you'd stake your reputation for this piec...
marvelous library
  04/26/07
STFU fag
Trip Chocolate Indian Lodge Ladyboy
  04/26/07
do you live in China or something? Who is this "they?&q...
big-titted exciting rigor
  04/26/07
There's a collective action problem because despite the (IMO...
Multi-colored brindle rigpig abode
  04/26/07
This is a serious post so please dont bash me for my ignoran...
big-titted exciting rigor
  04/26/07
you should have learned about collective action problems in ...
irradiated copper piazza
  04/26/07
I never took that class.
big-titted exciting rigor
  04/26/07
well you should, it's one of those classes that I think ever...
irradiated copper piazza
  04/26/07
I took as many of those types of courses as I could but you ...
big-titted exciting rigor
  04/26/07
I was trying to think if there was a more specific term for ...
Multi-colored brindle rigpig abode
  04/26/07
tragedy of the commons?
Shimmering disturbing electric furnace
  04/26/07
is there a race to the bottom here?
irradiated copper piazza
  04/26/07
LOL
cowardly university
  04/26/07
suboptimal equilibrium point.
Shimmering disturbing electric furnace
  04/26/07
Tragedy of the commons is more how everybody exploits a reso...
Multi-colored brindle rigpig abode
  04/26/07
another way of saying tragedy of the commons is moral hazard...
big-titted exciting rigor
  04/26/07
moral hazard and tragedy of the commons aren't the same thin...
Shimmering disturbing electric furnace
  04/26/07
you should tell this to my *** law professor because he uses...
big-titted exciting rigor
  04/26/07
if you step away from the textbook example of tragedy of the...
Shimmering disturbing electric furnace
  04/26/07
All collective action problems are basically variants of the...
Multi-colored brindle rigpig abode
  04/26/07
i'm thinking a concept like synergy might best describe it -...
Shimmering disturbing electric furnace
  04/26/07
You, Hazelrah, are a true genius. Edit: Holy fucking shit...
cowardly university
  04/26/07
Its obvious without the long explanation I just wanted to kn...
big-titted exciting rigor
  04/26/07
this whole sub-thread reeks of pseudo-intellectual law stude...
Histrionic church building depressive
  04/26/07
Fuck all of you, you fucking scared shit-eating niggers. Go ...
Dashing dopamine garrison
  04/26/07


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Date: April 26th, 2007 1:47 AM
Author: Dashing dopamine garrison

... fucking run away, you fucking chickens.

How many of you can genuinely say that you will stand up for this board?

You fuckers yield the benefits, but have absolutely no fucking loyalty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008553)





Date: April 26th, 2007 1:49 AM
Author: abusive wild main people

I would run away, rather than have my name and reputation attached to this shithole. I would be out like a light. Fold like a piece of paper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008563)





Date: April 26th, 2007 1:49 AM
Author: marvelous library

You're an idiot if you'd stake your reputation for this piece of shit board and it's piece of shit administrators (ie: GTO....I won't pass judgement on rach at this point).

GTFOI.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008564)





Date: April 26th, 2007 1:50 AM
Author: Trip Chocolate Indian Lodge Ladyboy

STFU fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008566)





Date: April 26th, 2007 1:51 AM
Author: big-titted exciting rigor

do you live in China or something? Who is this "they?" Are you talking about the owners?

If GTO and Rach want to shut it down they will and they wont ask any of us so there will be no opportunity to stand up for shit, but nobody can really force them to do it at the end of the day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008569)





Date: April 26th, 2007 1:52 AM
Author: Multi-colored brindle rigpig abode

There's a collective action problem because despite the (IMO) large benefit of having this board, the benefit is dispersed among the many people who come here, so each of us only benefits a little.

I said this is another thread, but there is only a very small incentive for any of us to post here (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/I_did_it_for_the_lulz ) so it'd only take a small risk of negative consequences to send a chilling effect throughout the board.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008570)





Date: April 26th, 2007 1:58 AM
Author: big-titted exciting rigor

This is a serious post so please dont bash me for my ignorance.

I've never heard anyone call this a "collective action problem." Is this a term of art like "moral hazard" thats used a lot but that I was just to stupid to pickup in law school or did you just invent it now?

I agree with you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008593)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:00 AM
Author: irradiated copper piazza

you should have learned about collective action problems in business organizations/corporations, at the very least

the easiest example is shareholder voting, if you've got a widely held, dispersed company none of the very small shareholders really stand to gain enough to make it worth their while to monitor the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008606)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:02 AM
Author: big-titted exciting rigor

I never took that class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008616)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:05 AM
Author: irradiated copper piazza

well you should, it's one of those classes that I think everyone is expected to take at some point, but isn't necessarily a 1L class

like evidence or admin (your mileage may vary by school, obviously)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008632)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:10 AM
Author: big-titted exciting rigor

I took as many of those types of courses as I could but you cant take all the "bar" courses during 2L and 3L no matter how much you want to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008659)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:04 AM
Author: Multi-colored brindle rigpig abode

I was trying to think if there was a more specific term for what I was describing, but I couldn't think of it. It's kind of like the flipside of free-riding, kind of like the prisoner's dilemma, is a bit related with externalities, but whatever, it's late and my command of buzzwords is a bit diminished. Regardless, it is certainly *a* collective action problem: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/free-rider/#1

This is more an economics thing than law school, although I think I owe my (obviously limited) knowledge of such things to a CLS course that is unfortunately no longer required (Regulatory State).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008623)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:05 AM
Author: Shimmering disturbing electric furnace

tragedy of the commons?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008630)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:06 AM
Author: irradiated copper piazza

is there a race to the bottom here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008633)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:10 AM
Author: cowardly university

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008662)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:10 AM
Author: Shimmering disturbing electric furnace

suboptimal equilibrium point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008663)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:10 AM
Author: Multi-colored brindle rigpig abode

Tragedy of the commons is more how everybody exploits a resource because there's no single person would benefit from their use. Same basic idea of a collective action problem but not really what's going on here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008658)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:13 AM
Author: big-titted exciting rigor

another way of saying tragedy of the commons is moral hazard and again you are right this isnt that for a bunch of reasons.

I thought collective action was different am I wrong?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008681)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:16 AM
Author: Shimmering disturbing electric furnace

moral hazard and tragedy of the commons aren't the same thing. tragedy of the commons specifically refers to communal property rights and overexploitation. moral hazard is what happens when you give people incentives to act badly - for instance, your car is insured, so you're not as careful when driving.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008690)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:20 AM
Author: big-titted exciting rigor

you should tell this to my *** law professor because he uses the two interchangeably. Though I guess medicaid creates both problems at the same time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008707)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:18 AM
Author: Shimmering disturbing electric furnace

if you step away from the textbook example of tragedy of the commons it is. in the tragedy of the commons case, no one has any incentive to stop exploiting a resource because they would lose even though society would be better off. here, no one would have any incentive to act because they would lose, while everyone else would be better off. the only difference i see is stopping action (t of c) and starting action (this board)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008701)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:23 AM
Author: Multi-colored brindle rigpig abode

All collective action problems are basically variants of the prisoner's dilemma. So yes you can say that this is not too different from a tragedy of the commons, except the whole point of having the term "tragedy of the commons" is to talk about a specific situation, and that situation is not what we have here.

It's a little more like free-riding, which would be the case if one of us did try to stand up for the board but couldn't find anybody to go along with him or her. But again that's also a little different than this situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008717)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:25 AM
Author: Shimmering disturbing electric furnace

i'm thinking a concept like synergy might best describe it - where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008731)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:02 AM
Author: cowardly university

You, Hazelrah, are a true genius.

Edit: Holy fucking shit- Valen's post has made me realize why you explained this very simple concept so thoroughly. My apologies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008613)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:05 AM
Author: big-titted exciting rigor

Its obvious without the long explanation I just wanted to know if its a commonly used term like moral hazard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008629)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:15 AM
Author: Histrionic church building depressive

this whole sub-thread reeks of pseudo-intellectual law student douchebaggery. hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008684)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:22 AM
Author: Dashing dopamine garrison

Fuck all of you, you fucking scared shit-eating niggers. Go back to your fucking ghetto, fucking Africa turds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008715)