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I used to weigh 135. I now weigh 150. Prestigious?
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Date: February 4th, 2008 10:47 PM Author: drunken vigorous party of the first part pocket flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271644) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 10:48 PM Author: bespoke well-lubricated lay french chef really? thats pretty good. get that bench up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271649) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 10:48 PM Author: drunken vigorous party of the first part pocket flask yeah man. d00d, are there any exercises thatll enhance my bench? because that shit is getting on my nerves (such slow progress) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271656) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 10:50 PM Author: bespoke well-lubricated lay french chef is it the weight, or is it still getting the muscles stabilized and used to the motion? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271670) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 10:53 PM Author: drunken vigorous party of the first part pocket flask its definitely stable, like when i first started working out...the bar would shake constantly, but now i keep it straight during the motion...its just the fucking weight pwns the fuck out of me so fast. my friend went from 15 (flat) to 25 (incline, so prob more like 30-35 on flat!!!) in just a week, i was so surprised (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271686) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:00 PM Author: awkward cordovan center juggernaut what the fuck do those numbers (15, 25, 30-35) mean?
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:03 PM Author: drunken vigorous party of the first part pocket flask the weights added on each side. e.g. 25 = bar + 25 (left) + 25 (right) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271739) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:14 PM Author: vivacious white kitty cat alpha who the fuck uses a 25lb bar? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271810) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:17 PM Author: drunken vigorous party of the first part pocket flask what i meant by those numbers was the number (x2) plus a REGULAR OLYMPIC BAR (45):
45 + 25 + 25
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Date: February 4th, 2008 10:50 PM Author: smoky metal heaven how long did it take (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271665) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 10:50 PM Author: drunken vigorous party of the first part pocket flask one month. keep in mind i've been taking creatine and drinking protein shakes. im not sure where the extra weight is going though, because my arms and legs sure as fuck arent visibly larger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271672) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 10:59 PM Author: galvanic lavender karate Creatine prolly accts for 10 of those pounds. I think that stuff fucked up my kidneys. How tall are you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271717) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:03 PM Author: drunken vigorous party of the first part pocket flask wait, it fucked up your kidneys? wtf?
im 5'10.5, 5'11 in shoes |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:11 PM Author: copper slippery fortuitous meteor codepig holy crap you were skinny. you're still kinda skinny. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271791) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:13 PM Author: drunken vigorous party of the first part pocket flask d00d. you should've seen me at 135. i was a fucking stick. ask earl. hell, i still look like im 135. i think once i hit 170-180 ill start looking visibly bigger (which is what im shooting for). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271806) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:18 PM Author: copper slippery fortuitous meteor codepig Yeah, what changes are you seeing now? More definition? Slightly bigger? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271833) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:26 PM Author: drunken vigorous party of the first part pocket flask to be honest, the only real change i see is my jawline getting suppler
my arms are still puny as fuck and so are my legs |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:34 PM Author: vivacious white kitty cat alpha don't worry about arms/abs. track your progress with leg and back development. squat and powerlift make up ~80% of what you need and the growth potential for legs and back are just huge compared to arms/chest/abs.
base your lifts off your deadlift: deadlift = X lbs, squat = .70 X lbs, bench = .55 X.
so if you deadlift 100 lbs, squat 70, and bench 55. your body mechanics will have their own unique balance, but this is a good baseline for most people, try to stay within it. keep making gains on the deadlift to bring up your other two big lifts and row at least what you are benching.
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:16 PM Author: vivacious white kitty cat alpha creatine does not fuck up your kidneys.
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:16 PM Author: bespoke well-lubricated lay french chef calves are worthless.
lifting 3 times a week is fine - no need special days for shoulders and arms. |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:05 PM Author: Frum dopamine keepsake machete holy shit you're small.
1) don't worry about eating clean at this point. just throw down calories: whoppers, fries, iced cream. shove in the calories.
2) take creatine and l-glutamine
3) 5 day weightlifting split, 5 minutes cardio warmup only
M-chest T-back W-legs TH-shoulders F-arms
alternate calves and abs every day. |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:12 PM Author: drunken vigorous party of the first part pocket flask trust me dude, i dont eat clean for shit. i've pretty much been eating mcdonalds and wendys for 2 months straight now. literally, bfast (sometimes), lunch, dinner. i also eat beef goulash when i get sick of fast food. i eat whatever else i can get my hands on in addition to the stuff i mentioned.
hmm. my current routine is M - push, W - pull, F - legs
i might try your routine though, it seems to have a greater gain potential |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:14 PM Author: Frum dopamine keepsake machete it does. but it's more effective and you don't have to worry about overtraining for at least a month; just watch the weights, eat like a madman, and overload the creatine (your kidneys are fine, it takes years of overdosing [10+ creatine servings daily] before you'll have nephrological problems. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271812) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:23 PM Author: vivacious white kitty cat alpha i disagree 100% with everything here.
not eating clean is a STUPID idea. you can't force feed the body to gain muscle. but you CAN gain a lot of fat! also, you can develop bad eating habits and fuck up your health. under OPTIMAL conditions, he will likely be able to gain only 1-5lbs of muscle PER MONTH.
body splits are also POINTLESS. if you weigh 150 at 5' 10", please tell me why the FUCK you would have an "arms" day? you are an idiot.
you should be doing compound lifts only. 3 days/week, with LOTS OF REST. try something like this:
Monday 1: Squat 3x5 Bench Press 3x5 Deadlift 1x5 Chin Up 3xRM
Wednesday 1: Squat 3x5 Press 3x5 Power Clean 5x3 Weighted Crunches 3x8
Friday 1: Squat 3x5 Bench Press 3x5 Deadlift 1x5 Wide Grip Pull Ups 3xRM
Monday 2: Squat 3x5 Press 3x5 Power Clean 5x3 Chin Up 3xRM
Wednesday 2: Squat 3x5 Bench Press 3x5 Deadlift 1x5 Weighted Crunches 3x8
Friday 2: Squat 3x5 Press 3x5 Power Clean 5x3 Wide Grip Pull Ups 3xRM
if you can't do power cleans, use pendlay rows at 3x5 instead.
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:28 PM Author: Beady-eyed Dragon titcr. squats & milk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271896) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:31 PM Author: Frum dopamine keepsake machete he can eat better after he gains strength/weight
yeah, squats and bench on the same day with deads in b/w is great advice.
he can have an arm day. it's basically active rest at this point but it helps support his larger upperbody muscles
my plan for him is good for 2 mos where he should gain roughly 25 lbs. |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:42 PM Author: vivacious white kitty cat alpha i about piss myself every time i see a string bean hitting the preacher curl.
if you can go up on all your other lifts, your arms will get big. chin ups use bi's enough.
when it comes to weight training, what seperates the men from the boys is a BIG FUCKING BACK. |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:45 PM Author: Frum dopamine keepsake machete dude i've been lifting for over 15 yrs. when i started, freshman yr of hs, i was skinny (6'0'', 165lbs). i basically ate everything and did a 5 day split. i got results.
now, i lift 4 days a week, eat cleaner, but i'm not looking to get bigger, just maintain my physique. i also do maybe 75% freeweights and universal type equipment and cables for the rest, versus only using freeweights in hs and college. |
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Date: February 5th, 2008 12:02 AM Author: vivacious white kitty cat alpha what is your point? of course there are people who have gotten huge doing splits. does that mean it is better? i don't want to argue, i've been through this discussion too many times.
here's a good read, 3 experts discuss total body training (TBT) vs splits from t-nation.com (a good site):
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1333967
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Date: February 5th, 2008 12:04 AM Author: Frum dopamine keepsake machete i know all the arguments. i disagree with hits (which is basically what you're advocating) and agree more with body splits/russian volume training. you do your thing, i do mine, but my advice based on nyuguys situation seems more apt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9272091) |
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Date: February 5th, 2008 12:15 AM Author: vivacious white kitty cat alpha at least i've tried to provide some support for what i'm recommending. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9272176) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:32 PM Author: bespoke well-lubricated lay french chef squatting 3 times a week is excessive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271913) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:37 PM Author: vivacious white kitty cat alpha if you're a pussy.
the idea behind weight training is to increase the amount of work your body can handle. 3 days of 3x5 squats is NOT excessive by any means.
i asked my legs, they are huge and they love 3x/wk. it's hard to keep myself from squatting on the weekends. |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:41 PM Author: Maize big theatre Sounds like you have a hard time keeping yourself from squatting on a hard, gay cock. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271962) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:43 PM Author: vivacious white kitty cat alpha how do you feel about your pot belly? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271975) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:45 PM Author: bespoke well-lubricated lay french chef my legs are strong as hell too, and I am fine squatting once a week 3X6 hard. my legs are pretty sore 2 days after too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9271991) |
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Date: February 4th, 2008 11:53 PM Author: vivacious white kitty cat alpha whatever works for you.
point is, 3 days/week of squats is not over training. it might be hard at first if you aren't use to it, but they learn fast. |
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Date: February 5th, 2008 12:13 AM Author: translucent trip puppy The average person can add 15 pounds a YEAR in lean muscle mass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9272166) |
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Date: February 5th, 2008 1:08 AM Author: vivacious white kitty cat alpha titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9272528) |
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Date: February 5th, 2008 1:25 AM Author: Spectacular dead roast beef hospital thought this would be madcat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=759830&forum_id=2#9272649) |
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Date: February 5th, 2008 2:11 AM Author: Diverse Ruddy Mood dood, normal bench press is so TTT
you need to be doing dumbbell bench press
and you need to be getting 1.5x your body weight in protein each day |