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AK47 pwned in AutoAdmit suit

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Cerebral legal warrant
  02/27/08
AK47 = racist megaposter, right?
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
yes
Maniacal wrinkle forum
  02/27/08
woa oldskookposterpwned
chocolate business firm
  02/28/08
HE IS FUCKED FOR LIFE.
Pale bearded house
  02/27/08
false
Adventurous doctorate people who are hurt
  02/27/08
SORRY AK47. YOU ARE FUCKED.
Pale bearded house
  02/27/08
Whitepride will be next. It's karma.
honey-headed antidepressant drug lay
  02/28/08
I can't wait until Whitepride gets his.
twisted sex offender box office
  03/12/08
wtf. what did he say that caused him to be sued?
lavender fear-inspiring famous landscape painting laser beams
  02/27/08
read the link dooder
Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop
  02/27/08
ty
lavender fear-inspiring famous landscape painting laser beams
  02/27/08
For what it's worth, that IP address traces back to Vallejo,...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
lots of blacks there?
Fragrant Nighttime Site Potus
  02/27/08
most definitely
Harsh macaca
  02/27/08
The racial makeup of the city was 30.97% White, 30.69% Afric...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
AK47 is a flip?
frozen scourge upon the earth pit
  02/27/08
aznaznazn?
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
Melky?
Wonderful French Chef Place Of Business
  02/27/08
lulz
Demanding aromatic station becky
  02/27/08
I was just about to post that.
Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop
  02/27/08
lmfao, fucking vallejo, that's awesome. guess he wasn't a f...
Demanding aromatic station becky
  02/27/08
link? I kind of feel sorry for him. But his posts were r...
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
Host name: adsl-75-18-198-98.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net. IP a...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
wow interesting. thank you.
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
it gets better: Google the IP and this pops up: http:/...
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
AUTHOR: Chauncey EMAIL: IP: 75.18.198.98 URL: DATE: 07...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
it gets better: Google the IP and this pops up: http:/...
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
it gets better: Google the IP and this pops up: http:/...
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
you feel sorry for him?
Maniacal wrinkle forum
  02/27/08
I guess not. I mean. He's a jerk. But I think it's intere...
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
Fuck that. It's not like he made a relatively tame comment ...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
That comment was taken out of context--seriously, he was not...
avocado stead
  02/27/08
link? Considering the poster, I'm having a hard time imag...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
This is thread he was named a D for: http://xoxohth.com/t...
avocado stead
  02/27/08
Lolz. Gimmie a break. The intention is clear. I'm not a...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
You think it is clear? One of the women's names is not a D. ...
avocado stead
  02/27/08
The other name is another girl who has been harassed for yea...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
Oh come on.
fiercely-loyal khaki range hissy fit
  02/27/08
do you think he was just trying to be funny though? not con...
Tripping bateful juggernaut national
  02/27/08
hell no. he deserves to be outed and sued. most of the defen...
Maniacal wrinkle forum
  02/27/08
Why do you feel sorry for him? He is such a coward for not b...
honey-headed antidepressant drug lay
  02/28/08
Vallejo, CA is the home of white trash. Pretty ghetto area -...
honey-headed antidepressant drug lay
  02/28/08
how did the Does get his IP address? rach sold out?
Harsh macaca
  02/27/08
Presumably. It looks as though the only statement at issue ...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
What does it say? My computer blocks the link.
Black beady-eyed home
  02/27/08
is that for real? i don't think you have a constitutional...
Maniacal wrinkle forum
  02/27/08
It's a murky area. Here's a pretty good overview: http:/...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
i'm not going to read all that now. it just seems like a to...
Maniacal wrinkle forum
  02/27/08
It "seems like a tough sell" to a poster who can't...
thirsty jet roast beef
  02/27/08
lulz, tyft
trip rigor
  02/27/08
181
floppy maroon philosopher-king
  02/27/08
He is going to get a seat on the Supreme Court with that leg...
onyx razzle university
  02/27/08
This is by far the biggest lulz to come out of the lawsuit t...
laughsome cyan skinny woman mediation
  02/27/08
Site is blocked here. What does the biglaw board link say? ...
Appetizing Flirting School Cafeteria
  02/27/08
Author: Daily Docket [102] () Posted: 02/27/08 03:43 PM Fl...
onyx razzle university
  02/27/08
Posted thus far
laughsome cyan skinny woman mediation
  02/27/08
JOHN DOE 21's MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF MOTION TO QUASH PL...
Maniacal wrinkle forum
  02/27/08
I dont think you understand the hilarity: Date: November ...
onyx razzle university
  02/27/08
ROFL
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
fucking THANK YOU
Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman
  02/27/08
Lulz, NYU grads. Stick to basketball, whokebe!
onyx razzle university
  02/27/08
AK47 = whokebe? i mean, i wouldn't be surprised but he stil...
Abusive plaza
  02/27/08
whokebe went to Stern undergrad, everybody knows that.
Contagious Newt
  02/27/08
whokebe would never live in vallejo. hth.
Demanding aromatic station becky
  02/27/08
Is the lawsuit worth it, for this alone? Possibly.
Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman
  02/27/08
oh yes it is
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
TITCR. I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of the Does trace b...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
Was AK47 named in the original filing?
Appetizing Flirting School Cafeteria
  02/27/08
i don't think so. i think he was added later.
Maniacal wrinkle forum
  02/27/08
I think he was added in the amended complaint, after he made...
Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman
  02/27/08
yeah. seriously what a faggot. he knows there's litigation p...
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
Yeah. I felt pretty bad for AHWIAB but I think this puts me ...
laughsome cyan skinny woman mediation
  02/27/08
Will he be disbarred?
Red gunner state
  02/27/08
If he wrote that brief, I doubt he is an attorney; but if he...
onyx razzle university
  02/27/08
pretty sure he's transactional i guess he doesnt write me...
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
Has anyone confirmed this? Haven't they made up lawsuit rela...
dull temple jew
  02/27/08
So can we assume AK47 works in SF and takes the ferry to wor...
Demanding aromatic station becky
  02/27/08
Yes, and he said he was from the Bay Area.
Red gunner state
  02/27/08
Why the hell would he live in Vallejo? It always sounded lik...
avocado stead
  02/27/08
i just looked up my ip address. it shows a nearby city, but...
Harsh macaca
  02/27/08
Correct. This traces back to the ISP, not to the specific a...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
OIC
avocado stead
  02/27/08
i think he has a good argument (so far as i have read on blb...
crawly motley school
  02/27/08
"This Motion presents the Court with the issue of what ...
onyx razzle university
  02/27/08
I guess this proves he might be AZN.
Appetizing Flirting School Cafeteria
  02/27/08
LOL
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
Rape is silly!!!
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
Silly statement jurisprudence is quite a legal thicket indee...
laughsome cyan skinny woman mediation
  02/27/08
making speak is another undeniably murky area of law.
Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman
  02/27/08
1 billion. This is the second time you've made me laugh ...
onyx razzle university
  02/27/08
yw, yw
laughsome cyan skinny woman mediation
  02/27/08
Do a "control-f" on that page for silly. It's awe...
Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman
  02/27/08
well it seems like it could be edited over a few times, but ...
crawly motley school
  02/27/08
Obama is right. This really is SILLY SEASON.
Bat-shit-crazy Karate
  02/27/08
nice callback!
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
fake, lame attempt to drive traffic to that board. No one re...
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
hi ak47!
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
stupid, it's obviously fake
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
BLB scopes AA on the lawsuit all the time: http://www.big...
Bat-shit-crazy Karate
  02/27/08
who reads that board? it gets like 10 hits per day. Some...
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
You're right, someone spent 3 days researching and preparing...
onyx razzle university
  02/27/08
Owned.
blue diverse masturbator filthpig
  02/27/08
Damn you. I just spit my coke all over my laptop. Gumshoe ...
Appetizing Flirting School Cafeteria
  02/27/08
So he apparently either goes to Hastings, San Fran, Golden G...
Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop
  02/27/08
Trustafarian strikes again?
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
I think that dood went to Davis
Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop
  02/27/08
he went to boalt
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
Boalt.
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
I'm pretty sure he graduated. He was very active in Bar exam...
avocado stead
  02/27/08
Hastings. http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=269...
Cerebral legal warrant
  03/04/08
He was pretty stupid to respond in the way he did. He should...
Tripping bateful juggernaut national
  02/27/08
This seems exactly wrong.
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
dooder I used to work for an ISP and I can tell you that wou...
Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop
  02/27/08
it has worked in RIAA suits dood. this is what has caus...
Tripping bateful juggernaut national
  02/27/08
link? ppl always tried to claim our records were wrong an...
Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop
  02/27/08
plenty of it here http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot....
Tripping bateful juggernaut national
  02/27/08
nah, you're just confusing lame legal arguments with legal p...
Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop
  02/27/08
please explain to me then how grandmothers who have never he...
Tripping bateful juggernaut national
  02/27/08
I believe the case you're referring to was a situation in wh...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
"the case" ?? It has happened a lot more than once
Tripping bateful juggernaut national
  02/27/08
Link? I've only heard one such claim made before and tend to...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
titcr
Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop
  02/27/08
2005 http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/6038.cfm 2003 ...
Tripping bateful juggernaut national
  02/27/08
these are cases where the ISP obviously made an error, and i...
Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop
  02/29/08
because they own the account from which the alleged infringe...
Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop
  02/27/08
Also, look at the recent motion to quash that was filed in o...
Tripping bateful juggernaut national
  02/27/08
Question @ Lamronba: What about wireless internet connectio...
Disturbing Geriatric Orchestra Pit Faggotry
  02/27/08
??
Disturbing Geriatric Orchestra Pit Faggotry
  02/27/08
Plausible explanation. To tell the difference I think they'd...
autistic poppy coffee pot
  02/27/08
this is a bit of a gray area. as a matter of our company pol...
Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop
  02/28/08
what a completely inane idea. and have you ever heard of ...
bonkers idiot
  02/27/08
Also, AK47, we know you're reading this thread. PWNED
Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman
  02/27/08
lol
Slimy Odious Faggot Firefighter
  02/27/08
wgwag
lavender fear-inspiring famous landscape painting laser beams
  02/27/08
Date: November 10th, 2007 1:25 AM Author: AK47 IIED is a...
Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman
  02/27/08
This really should have been incorporated in his brief.
laughsome cyan skinny woman mediation
  02/27/08
180 again. On fire today
Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman
  02/27/08
lulz
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
I think that's going to be in the order the judge enters.
onyx razzle university
  02/27/08
Odds AK47 dropped the N-bomb in his brief?
Red gunner state
  02/27/08
His outting will be the biggest in xo history it seems. Hav...
Ivory sadistic trust fund
  02/27/08
The only other one that would be as legendary is pauliewalnu...
Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman
  02/27/08
Nice try... You are sooooooo getting sued and outted.
Buff Coldplay Fan Locale
  02/27/08
I don't see anything about this on PACER. Where did they get...
dull temple jew
  02/27/08
ha the ali g ice cream gloves defense (internet search for i...
crawly motley school
  02/27/08
nice Ali G reference
wine internet-worthy institution chad
  02/27/08
Can someone explain in laymen's terms what happened here? I'...
Stimulating ruddy ratface garrison
  02/27/08
does subpoena AT&T for IP address related to AK47 AK4...
pea-brained green athletic conference
  02/27/08
"legal jargon"? You don't what the words "...
avocado stead
  02/27/08
those words constitute legal jargon dooder.
Dashing lime theatre
  02/27/08
GTO sold him out: "Plaintiffs are attempting to inti...
crawly motley school
  02/27/08
What would it take to get GTO to sell out JBD?
Irradiated transparent halford trailer park
  02/27/08
Some googling and investigating has led me to this conclusio...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
lol oh snap
Slimy Odious Faggot Firefighter
  02/27/08
LOL. Damn, AK47 is a true psycho
avocado stead
  02/27/08
He appears to hold himself out on the blackprof site as a su...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
one of the rare black jews?
Filthy Mauve Multi-billionaire
  02/27/08
there was a gay black jew guy on the Real World once. He sl...
Tripping bateful juggernaut national
  02/27/08
wowzer!
Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop
  02/27/08
i used to think the racism was schtick. now i doubt it.
Stimulating ruddy ratface garrison
  02/27/08
Same here. It's truly frightening. I also used to be convi...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
At some point, even if it's meant to be schtick, the relentl...
laughsome cyan skinny woman mediation
  02/27/08
now maybe people will believe me when I say hizzla is real a...
Tripping bateful juggernaut national
  02/27/08
NOW THIS IS PRICELESS! OP: getting sued by RIAA/MPAA for ...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
Welcome to last month. http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.ph...
marvelous drunken principal's office rigpig
  02/27/08
Yes, but we now know it is Ak47. This was not known last mo...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/27/08
One of those CA posts that got deleted called this one.
scarlet shrine
  02/28/08
The real question is, why did the faggots at BLB notice the ...
Tripping bateful juggernaut national
  02/27/08
Because no one on XO is an actual attorney or has access to ...
Cerebral legal warrant
  02/27/08
Anyone can get access to PACER. I set up an account a few we...
concupiscible apoplectic lodge water buffalo
  02/27/08
Because someone over there impulsively checks justia?
arousing voyeur meetinghouse
  02/27/08
It's not on justia.
Territorial erotic cuck
  02/27/08
BLB posters are former XOXO regulars who got sick of all the...
blue diverse masturbator filthpig
  02/27/08
WAIT, HOW'D THEY GET HIS IP? I thought there were no IP log...
sickened self-absorbed haunted graveyard
  02/27/08
according to the AK47 brief, GTO told plaintiffs. that does...
lake mad cow disease hominid
  02/27/08
GTO somehow had knowledge of his IP address and remembered i...
autistic poppy coffee pot
  02/27/08
180.
Adventurous doctorate people who are hurt
  02/27/08
AK47 was a well known spammer, Rach/GTO logged spammer IPs t...
wine internet-worthy institution chad
  02/27/08
This is actually a very good point. If it turns out that nob...
Primrose aphrodisiac address mother
  02/27/08
...
Harsh macaca
  02/27/08
"Plaintiffs filed the original Complaint on June 8, 200...
hairraiser persian blood rage
  02/27/08
Whether he deserves it or not, if GTO sold him out, GTO is a...
mahogany federal azn
  02/27/08
dood, GTO lost his fucking legal career due to this shit. If...
avocado stead
  02/27/08
The only thing left the fucker has is his dignity. His whol...
mahogany federal azn
  02/27/08
titcr. don't forget his holier-than-thou attitude when he w...
floppy maroon philosopher-king
  02/27/08
what would he gain at this point from helping any party?
Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo
  02/27/08
do you also believe "it's all about respect" and &...
bonkers idiot
  02/27/08
no, wtf are you talking about?
mahogany federal azn
  02/27/08
lol at you for thinking that it's more dignified for him to ...
umber exciting theater stage
  02/27/08
I am not a lawyer. Explain to me why I can't express my desi...
Translucent sandwich
  02/27/08
cuz when you do it on a message board that the individuals' ...
umber exciting theater stage
  02/27/08
thanks mang. you're right, I should be aware of the core pri...
Translucent sandwich
  02/28/08
i don't see what's off. given the context (a board campaign ...
umber exciting theater stage
  02/28/08
There were some posts and actions that I believe constitute ...
splenetic titillating ceo dog poop
  02/28/08
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/connect...
floppy maroon philosopher-king
  02/27/08
TYTYTYTY
indigo hideous sneaky criminal
  02/28/08
Wow. Unbelievable. There are some solid legal points in th...
electric police squad travel guidebook
  02/28/08
"But the tone and lack of propriety is almost certain t...
Territorial erotic cuck
  02/28/08
i should have said "almost certain to lead a judge to l...
electric police squad travel guidebook
  02/28/08
The comment is so crude that it may almost certainly "l...
Territorial erotic cuck
  02/28/08
you seem not to realize how a normal IRL person reads a line...
umber exciting theater stage
  02/28/08
You seem to not realize that there are literally millions of...
Territorial erotic cuck
  02/28/08
theres assloads of circumstantial evidence. and this is a su...
umber exciting theater stage
  02/28/08
We shall see. I look forward to reading the Opposition.
Territorial erotic cuck
  02/28/08
'raped' in that context means 'I hope bad things happen to' ...
splenetic titillating ceo dog poop
  02/28/08
I appreciated smart-ass writing when I was clerking.
walnut cracking church
  02/28/08
did you read it? i'd argue there's a difference between sma...
electric police squad travel guidebook
  02/28/08
Almost all pro per/pro se papers are whiny, angry, and rambl...
Territorial erotic cuck
  02/28/08
that would be funny if he put his real name in the return ad...
Tripping bateful juggernaut national
  02/28/08
Wow, this may be the highlight of the brief: "The fa...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/28/08
Yeah, I really would have left out that part. He's basicall...
Territorial erotic cuck
  02/28/08
after the original suit was filed, did GTO have the duty not...
crawly motley school
  02/28/08
wow, i can't believe KVN/YLS are enlisted to engage this sor...
umber exciting theater stage
  02/28/08
That has to be the best quote from the entire response. Sec...
electric police squad travel guidebook
  02/28/08
jesus christ that is horrible reasoning
wine internet-worthy institution chad
  02/28/08
There's probably an argument in there somewhere.
Irradiated transparent halford trailer park
  02/28/08
I think it's decent, ignoring the police/counselor crap part...
splenetic titillating ceo dog poop
  02/28/08
lol.. cops and crisis counselors may describe sexual violen...
Narrow-minded Useless Rehab
  02/28/08
his argument focuses on the word "description" but...
razzmatazz theater windowlicker
  03/04/08
holy shit. the greatest moment in the history of this long ...
Chrome Charismatic Parlour Headpube
  02/28/08
titcr. this is like the barzini pwnage only with way more sc...
umber exciting theater stage
  02/28/08
Damn, I almost forgot about the barzini pwnage. I wonder wh...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/28/08
i'm not one of the D's, obviously, but this kind of made me ...
Chrome Charismatic Parlour Headpube
  02/28/08
what was the barzini pwnage? I have been posting here for 3...
Tripping bateful juggernaut national
  02/28/08
IIRC: posted here about a girl he had a date with or somethi...
navy embarrassed to the bone set
  02/28/08
Highlight of the thread in retrospect: Date: April 13th, ...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/28/08
lol good find
navy embarrassed to the bone set
  02/28/08
I personally hate AK47 and think 99% of this response is hyp...
Narrow-minded Useless Rehab
  02/28/08
I am generally sympathetic to the Does and I agree.
Territorial erotic cuck
  02/28/08
This is true, but the implication was plenty clear to the in...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/28/08
I think after the Does were initially "outted", th...
indigo hideous sneaky criminal
  02/28/08
This doesn't make any sense. If there's no specific (or impl...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/28/08
Once PaulieWalnuts plastered this public message board with ...
indigo hideous sneaky criminal
  02/28/08
psa: you can't invent legal definitions whenever you feel li...
umber exciting theater stage
  02/28/08
For all you know, I am a Supreme Court Justice and have ever...
indigo hideous sneaky criminal
  02/28/08
go to bed clarence, you're up way too late
nofapping angry dilemma
  02/28/08
I can't get enough of this black on white porn on the net br...
indigo hideous sneaky criminal
  02/28/08
That's not nearly enough to make them public figures. They ...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/28/08
dont see any defamation on AK's part. Maybe IIED, but not d...
floppy maroon philosopher-king
  02/28/08
Yeah, you're right. Which makes the entire public figure/act...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/28/08
So there's no higher intent threshold for public figures whe...
indigo hideous sneaky criminal
  02/28/08
If I recall correctly, the actual malice standard only appli...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/28/08
Thanks for clearing that up for me
indigo hideous sneaky criminal
  02/28/08
i don't know if there is such a 2-part test...that jerry fal...
crawly motley school
  02/28/08
I think ol' AK wins on the merits, but not so sure about qua...
floppy maroon philosopher-king
  02/28/08
This is probably right. If he can't quash the subpoena, you...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/28/08
to become an involuntary public figure, you have to act/fail...
umber exciting theater stage
  02/28/08
Attending the number one ranked law school in the country an...
indigo hideous sneaky criminal
  02/28/08
you don't know what you're talking about, you should just dr...
umber exciting theater stage
  02/28/08
Pardon me if I don't think going to Yale Law School isn't ex...
indigo hideous sneaky criminal
  02/28/08
Lol. The legal definition of a private figure doesn't requi...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/28/08
and 99% of the public doesn't go to YLS. hth
indigo hideous sneaky criminal
  02/28/08
This logic is inscrutable.
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/28/08
this is far and away the dumbest thing ive read in my entire...
impertinent nibblets trump supporter
  02/29/08
You're out of your element. While defining a public figure ...
Exhilarant Twinkling Point
  02/28/08
The higher up the social ladder you climb, more people can s...
indigo hideous sneaky criminal
  02/28/08
"did not constitute a specific reference to the Does&qu...
umber exciting theater stage
  02/28/08
Wow.
Histrionic Tantric Spot Cuckold
  02/28/08
i am so glad I am a grl with no interest in grls or grls cal...
chocolate business firm
  02/28/08
what go around come around, kid what are his other monike...
Harsh macaca
  02/28/08
obviously
Narrow-minded Useless Rehab
  02/28/08
No.
avocado stead
  02/28/08
First, what is the expected timeline here? Does anyone know...
thirsty jet roast beef
  02/28/08
"Also, odds that noted CA litigator 174/AK-47 is workin...
Arrogant maize space
  02/29/08
You mean the odds that AK47 actually works at KVM? HOLY FUC...
Cocky Weed Whacker Pisswyrm
  03/12/08
...
confused crackhouse boiling water
  02/29/08
Date: April 19th, 2007 12:36 AM Author: AK47 in fairness...
Cerebral legal warrant
  03/04/08
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Talented hairless office party of the first part
  03/12/08


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Date: February 27th, 2008 3:58 PM
Author: Cerebral legal warrant

http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=11559&x=3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396835)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:01 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

AK47 = racist megaposter, right?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396847)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:07 PM
Author: Maniacal wrinkle forum

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396875)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:38 AM
Author: chocolate business firm

woa

oldskookposterpwned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399710)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:00 PM
Author: Pale bearded house

HE IS FUCKED FOR LIFE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396841)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:01 PM
Author: Adventurous doctorate people who are hurt

false

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396844)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:02 PM
Author: Pale bearded house

SORRY AK47. YOU ARE FUCKED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396856)





Date: February 28th, 2008 7:28 PM
Author: honey-headed antidepressant drug lay

Whitepride will be next. It's karma.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9402535)





Date: March 12th, 2008 1:46 AM
Author: twisted sex offender box office

I can't wait until Whitepride gets his.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9466328)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:01 PM
Author: lavender fear-inspiring famous landscape painting laser beams

wtf.

what did he say that caused him to be sued?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396843)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:02 PM
Author: Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop

read the link dooder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396853)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:04 PM
Author: lavender fear-inspiring famous landscape painting laser beams

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396860)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:02 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

For what it's worth, that IP address traces back to Vallejo, Calif.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396854)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:04 PM
Author: Fragrant Nighttime Site Potus

lots of blacks there?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396861)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:05 PM
Author: Harsh macaca

most definitely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396864)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:05 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

The racial makeup of the city was 30.97% White, 30.69% African American, 0.66% Native American, 19.16% Asian, 1.09% Pacific Islander, 7.88% from other races, and 6.56% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 19.92% of the population.

Vallejo has the third highest percentage of Filipino Americans in the United States mainland, behind the nearby cities of Daly City and Hercules.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396868)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:06 PM
Author: frozen scourge upon the earth pit

AK47 is a flip?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396873)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:14 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

aznaznazn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396910)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:18 PM
Author: Wonderful French Chef Place Of Business

Melky?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396928)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:05 PM
Author: Demanding aromatic station becky

lulz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396869)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:04 PM
Author: Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop

I was just about to post that.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396863)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:05 PM
Author: Demanding aromatic station becky

lmfao, fucking vallejo, that's awesome.

guess he wasn't a fan of the hyphy movement?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396867)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:07 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

link?

I kind of feel sorry for him. But his posts were ridiculously offensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396877)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:08 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Host name: adsl-75-18-198-98.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net.

IP address: 75.18.198.98

Location: Vallejo, CA, UNITED STATES

You can lookup any IP at this site: http://www.hostip.info

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396884)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:11 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

wow interesting. thank you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396893)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:36 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

it gets better:

Google the IP and this pops up:

http://www.blackprof.com/archives/exports/072007.txt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397030)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:37 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

AUTHOR: Chauncey

EMAIL:

IP: 75.18.198.98

URL:

DATE: 07/20/2007 12:09:51 AM

falcons suck

Could be a dynamic IP though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397038)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:38 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

it gets better:

Google the IP and this pops up:

http://www.blackprof.com/archives/exports/072007.txt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397039)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:40 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

it gets better:

Google the IP and this pops up:

http://www.blackprof.com/archives/exports/072007.txt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397049)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:10 PM
Author: Maniacal wrinkle forum

you feel sorry for him?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396889)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:25 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

I guess not. I mean. He's a jerk. But I think it's interesting that he's going to get outted for something totally unrelated to his racist antics here. So I guess I feel sorry for him in that sense. But I don't feel sorry for him as a person.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396963)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:27 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Fuck that. It's not like he made a relatively tame comment about the plaintiffs (think AHWIAB). He advocated raping them. This guy deserves all the embarrassment and punishment he is going to get.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396977)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:28 PM
Author: avocado stead

That comment was taken out of context--seriously, he was not one of the people harrassing the does

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396984)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:30 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

link?

Considering the poster, I'm having a hard time imagining a context where that would be an innocent statement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396991)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:40 PM
Author: avocado stead

This is thread he was named a D for:

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=646214&mc=2&forum_id=2

It's not even clear he was indicating either of the D's (only one of them is named in the subject line and her name is misspelled)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397045)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:43 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Lolz. Gimmie a break. The intention is clear.

I'm not arguing that what he said is legally actionable. It is morally reprehensible though, and I have no sympathy for him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397064)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:45 PM
Author: avocado stead

You think it is clear? One of the women's names is not a D. I think it was just one of the many among the thousands of bizarre posts he made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397069)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:49 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

The other name is another girl who has been harassed for years on here for no good reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397088)





Date: February 27th, 2008 8:27 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal khaki range hissy fit

Oh come on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398120)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:40 PM
Author: Tripping bateful juggernaut national

do you think he was just trying to be funny though? not condoning it at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397044)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:30 PM
Author: Maniacal wrinkle forum

hell no. he deserves to be outed and sued. most of the defendant's do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396989)





Date: February 28th, 2008 7:32 PM
Author: honey-headed antidepressant drug lay

Why do you feel sorry for him? He is such a coward for not being open and upfront about his beliefs in public and just posting anonymously. He's also a repugnant, hateful, obsessive, dimwit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9402559)





Date: February 28th, 2008 7:29 PM
Author: honey-headed antidepressant drug lay

Vallejo, CA is the home of white trash. Pretty ghetto area - the type of place that would breed skinheads, KKK members, etc. -> people with extremely low levels of education.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9402542)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:06 PM
Author: Harsh macaca

how did the Does get his IP address? rach sold out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396871)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:07 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Presumably. It looks as though the only statement at issue was an xoxo post. The only way to get that IP is through site logs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396878)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:06 PM
Author: Black beady-eyed home

What does it say? My computer blocks the link.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396872)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:07 PM
Author: Maniacal wrinkle forum

is that for real?

i don't think you have a constitutional right to speak anonymously.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396880)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:10 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

It's a murky area.

Here's a pretty good overview:

http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/legal-protections-anonymous-speech

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396891)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:18 PM
Author: Maniacal wrinkle forum

i'm not going to read all that now. it just seems like a tough sell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396927)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:52 PM
Author: thirsty jet roast beef

It "seems like a tough sell" to a poster who can't be bothered to read a googled web site synopsis of the area of law. Thanks for your analysis here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397097)





Date: February 27th, 2008 6:12 PM
Author: trip rigor

lulz, tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397521)





Date: February 27th, 2008 6:35 PM
Author: floppy maroon philosopher-king

181

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397637)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:08 PM
Author: onyx razzle university

He is going to get a seat on the Supreme Court with that legal acumen!

I would assume that most people who submit briefs to the court at least spell "plaintiffs" right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396881)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:08 PM
Author: laughsome cyan skinny woman mediation

This is by far the biggest lulz to come out of the lawsuit thus far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396883)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:11 PM
Author: Appetizing Flirting School Cafeteria

Site is blocked here. What does the biglaw board link say?

Can you paste it in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396897)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:13 PM
Author: onyx razzle university

Author: Daily Docket [102] ()

Posted: 02/27/08 03:43 PM

Flag: Best-Of Helpful NSFW Spam TOS Violation

Main Document

"Pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 45(c) and applicable local rules, John Doe 21 moves to quash Plaintiffs' third party subpoena to AT&T, Inc. for information pertaining to his identity. John Doe 21, referred to in the Amended Complaint as Internet pseudonym "AK47," asks this Court to quash Plaintiff's subpoena because the Subpoena violates his First Amendment right to speak anonymously."

Of note, he seeks to limit access to IP address 75.18.198.98.

Portions of it reads like, well, a first year brief? "urges this court to help Plainfitts trample upon John Doe's constitutionally protected right to speak anonymously."

"neither properly noticed of the suit nor have the resources or legal know-how to wade through the legal and procedural thicket presented by Plaintiffs, two Yale law students who have enlisted an elite law firm"

Arguments:

A. The First Amendment protects John Doe 21's right to speak anonymously.

B. To protect qualified privilege, the court should require notice to defendants, review of the complaint, and presentation of argument and evidence before issuing a subpoena to an anonymous defendant.

C. Plaintiffs cannot overcome John Doe 21's right to speak anonymously because plaintiffs cannot demonstrate they have viable claims against John Doe 21.

D. The court must review John Doe 21's statement to determine whether it actionable.

E. Plaintiffs are not able to succeed on their intentional or negligent infliction of emotional distress claims.

F. Plaintiff has not met the heightened standard required by the First Amendment.

G. The court must balance the harm of disclosure against its value.

H. Plaintiffs are using this subpoena, not for legitimate discovery purposes, but rather to intimidate John Doe 21 in the same manner that they intimidated other defendants in this case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396907)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:15 PM
Author: laughsome cyan skinny woman mediation
Subject: Posted thus far

JOHN DOE 21's MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF MOTION TO QUASH

PLAINTIFF'S SUBPOENA

Pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 45(c) and applicable local rules, John Doe 21 moves to quash Plaintiffs' third party subpoena to AT&T, Inc. for information pertaining to his identity. John Doe 21, referred to in the Amended Complaint as Internet pseudonym "AK47," asks this Court to quash Plaintiffs' subpoena because the Subpoena violates his First Amendment right to speak anonymously.

INTRODUCTION

Plaintiffs Doe I's and Doe II's February 15,2008 Subpoena ordering AT&T Inc. ("AT&T") to produce information relating to the identity of John Doe 21, a.k.a AK47, urges this court to help Plaintiffs trample upon John Doe's constitutionally protected right to speak anonymously. This subpoena, Plaintiffs' Amended Complaint and Ex Parte Motion for Expedited Discovery have heretofore gone unopposed by Defendants, like John Doe, who were neither properly noticed of the suit nor have the resources or legal know-how to wade through the legal and procedural thicket

presented by Plaintiffs, two Yale law students who have enlisted an elite law firm to uncover the identities of certain persons who posted unsavory but legally innocuous comments concerning Plaintiffs on an Internet website. Although the Amended Complaint and Motion For Expedited

Discovery, as they relate to John Doe 21, would not withstand even the most cursory challenge, it is extremely important that this Court protect the First Amendment and Due Process rights of John Doe 21 and the other anonymous Defendants drawn into this litigation. Though silly, the statement at issue here, i.e., "Women named Jill and [Doe II's equally common first name] should be raped,"

constitutes constitutionally protected speech. The Subpoena should be quashed.

BACKGROUND

Plaintiffs' Amended Complaint, which includes allegations ranging from intentional infliction of emotional distress and false light, Amended Complaint ("Complaint") at ~~ 62-83, appears to center on claims of defamation and copyright infringement. Most of the named Defendants, including John Doe 21, are anonymous, appear to have no relationship to each other, do not appear to know Plaintiffs, and are identified only by their screen names. John Doe 21 has never met Plaintiffs, nor does he reside in Connecticut.

Plaintiffs filed the original Complaint on June 8, 2007, in front of the Honorable Judge Christopher Droney of the Connecticut District Court for the District of Connecticut, alleging that certain posters on Autoadmit.com, a discussion site known for its silly banter and near absolute unreliability as a source of useful information, had posted comments that caused Plaintiffs a smorgasbord of harms, including causing one plaintiff to fail to receive job offers from top-tier law firms. Complaint at 1. After numerous extension requests, see Motions for Extension of Time (totaling 4), Plaintiffs on November 8, 2007, filed an Amended Complaint, dropping several Defendants and naming others, including John Doe 21. Amended Complaint at 1. Plaintiffs continued to file various motions which went unopposed by apparently unaware Defendants (see First MOTION for Extension of Time until July 7, 2008 to Modify the Scheduling Order; Plaintiffs' Motion for Expedited Discovery, Memorandum in Support Plaintiffs' Memorandum of Law in Support of Motion for Expedited Discovery), and sought and were granted leave to issue subpoenas to Internet service providers in order to locate and identify the anonymous Defendants, presumably for the purposes of drawing the actual identities of Defendants into this litigation and attributing to Defendants comments posted anonymously on Autoadmit. One such subpoena reached John Doe 21. The Subpoena was addressed to AT&T, Inc., an Internet service provider, and demanded the identity of the person who posted comments presumably traceable to the IP address 75.18.198.98. See Exhibit 1.

The Subpoena, received by John Doe 21 on or around the 18 of February 2008, originally sought and granted in Connecticut District Court, was apparently filed and issued from the United States District Court for the Central District of California. Exhibit 1. The Subpoena states that John Doe 21 has 10 days in which to prepare a motion to quash, a protective order or other motion to prevent AT&T from divulging information pertaining to his identity to Plaintiffs. This 10 day period was negotiated by Plaintiffs attorneys and AT&T. See Exhibit 1, Subpoena to AT&T at 1. Apparently, 10 days is enough time for John Doe 21 to prepare a motion concerning an area of law with which he has never dealt and concerning a multitude of federal procedural issues that only experienced litigators such as Plaintiffs' attorneys are able to navigate. On the other hand, Plaintiffs, by seeking time extension after extension, have carefully planned their strategy over a period of nearly 10 months. It has therefore taken Plaintiffs, with the aid of a cadre of competent attorneys, 10 months to craft their case, yet Plaintiffs think it appropriate to give John Doe 21 ten days to craft his.

Furthermore, the Subpoena fails to mention John Doe 21's pseudonymous identity, "AK47," fails to identify the specific court division within the Central District of California (the Central District of California contains four separate court divisions) that issued the Subpoena, and fails to otherwise identify the purpose for its issuance. Nor, to John Doe 21's knowledge, do any of Plaintiffs' moving documents in the Connecticut litigation contain any evidence linking the IP address sought to any comment posted on Autoadmit. The only piece of information related to this case mentioned in the Subpoena is John Doe 21's IP address, an address presumably linked to a comment that Plaintiffs found objectionable. Yet, this bare bones document has the potential to eviscerate John Doe 21's constitutionally guaranteed right to speak anonymously.

SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT

This Motion presents the Court with the issue of what standard should be applied to determine whether, in this particular case, the right to obtain redress from a silly statement on Autoadmit.com outweighs John Doe 21's First Amendment right to make speak anonymously. Few courts have considered this question, but it is becoming a crucial one, particularly in light of the increasing number of cases where those who have been criticized on the Internet seek to use the machinery of the courts to unmask, intimidate and silence their online critics. Indeed, as a California District Court recently remarked, "[p]eople who have committed no wrong should be able to participate online without fear that someone who wishes to harass or embarrass them can file a frivolous lawsuit and thereby gain the power of the court's order to discover their identities." Columbia Ins. Co. v. seescandy.com, 185 F.R.D. 573,578 (N.D. Cal. 1999) (considering the discovery standards applicable to the unveiling of a defendant's identity in a domain name/trademark matter).

In light of the significant privacy and free speech issues involved in unveiling the identities of anonymous speakers, a balancing test has been developed to decide whether to require the identification of anonymous speakers in litigation. Under that test, the Court will balance the harm to John Doe 21 against the Plaintiffs' need for discovery to pursue their claim. On the facts of this case, there can be no doubt that John Doe 21's right to speak anonymously should prevail.

A. THE FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTS JOHN DOE 21'S RIGHT TO SPEAK ANONYMOUSLY

It hardly bears mention that the First Amendment protects the right to speak anonymously. The Bill of Rights and the Constitution were designed by citizens who publicly debated these documents' virtues anonymously (or pseudonymously) in letters published later as the Federalist Papers. The First and Fourth Amendments are based "at least in part on the colonists' experience with the sedition laws of England which forbade anonymous writing and which allowed warrantless invasion of any home to root out the true identity of anonymous authors." Nelson B. Lasson, The History and Development of the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution, 37-50 (1937). The Supreme Court has repeatedly affirmed this right. Buckley v. American Constitutional Law Found. Inc., 525 U.S. 182, 197-200 (1999); McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Comm'n., 514 U.S. 334 (1995); Talley v. California, 362 U.S. 60 (1960). These cases signify the important role of anonymous speech in the United States' history.

The Supreme Court unequivocally held in Reno v. ACLU, 521 U.S. at 870, that speech on the Internet is entitled to the full spectrum of First Amendment protections. Observing that the World Wide Web is a medium for public argument and discussion that reaches more people than any other known medium, the Court stated that "content on the Internet is as diverse as human thought." Reno, 521 U.S. at 870

In the online realm, numerous cases have upheld the constitutional right to speak anonymously on the Internet. ACLU v. Johnson, 4 F. Supp. 2d 1029, 1033 (D.N.M. 1998) aff'd, 194 F.3d 1149 (10th Cir. 1999); ACLU of Georgia, 977 F. Supp. at 1232-33; see also ApolloMEDIA Corp. v. Reno, 526 U.S. 1061 (1999), aff'g 19 F. Supp. 2d 1081 (N.D. Cal. 1998) (protecting anonymous speakers on web site at www.annoy.com, a site "created and designed to annoy" legislators through anonymous communications). The mechanics of the Internet, however, provides numerous ways to track the statements of anonymous speakers, prompting many commentators to argue that the law ought to provide special protections for Internet anonymity. See, e.g., David G. Post, Pooling Intellectual Capital: Thoughts of Anonymity, Pseudonymity, and Limited Liability in Cyberspace, 1996 U. Chi. Legal F. 139; Lee Tien, Innovation and the Information Environment: Who's Afraid of Anonymous Speech? McIntyre and the Internet, 75 Or. L. Rev. 117 (1996).

Because the First Amendment protects the right to speak anonymously, a subpoena for anonymous speakers' names and addresses is subject to a qualified privilege. And, as in other cases in which litigants seek privileged information, courts must consider the privilege before authorizing discovery. See Sony Music Entmn't v. Does, 326 F.Supp.2d 556,565 (S.D.N.Y. 2004) ("Against the backdrop of First Amendment protection for anonymous speech, courts have held that civil subpoenas seeking information regarding anonymous individuals raise First Amendment concerns.").

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396914)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:16 PM
Author: Maniacal wrinkle forum

JOHN DOE 21's MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF MOTION TO QUASH

PLAINTIFF'S SUBPOENA

Pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 45(c) and applicable local rules, John Doe 21 moves to quash Plaintiffs' third party subpoena to AT&T, Inc. for information pertaining to his identity. John Doe 21, referred to in the Amended Complaint as Internet pseudonym "AK47," asks this Court to quash Plaintiffs' subpoena because the Subpoena violates his First Amendment right to speak anonymously.

INTRODUCTION

Plaintiffs Doe I's and Doe II's February 15,2008 Subpoena ordering AT&T Inc. ("AT&T") to produce information relating to the identity of John Doe 21, a.k.a AK47, urges this court to help Plaintiffs trample upon John Doe's constitutionally protected right to speak anonymously. This subpoena, Plaintiffs' Amended Complaint and Ex Parte Motion for Expedited Discovery have heretofore gone unopposed by Defendants, like John Doe, who were neither properly noticed of the suit nor have the resources or legal know-how to wade through the legal and procedural thicket

presented by Plaintiffs, two Yale law students who have enlisted an elite law firm to uncover the identities of certain persons who posted unsavory but legally innocuous comments concerning Plaintiffs on an Internet website. Although the Amended Complaint and Motion For Expedited

Discovery, as they relate to John Doe 21, would not withstand even the most cursory challenge, it is extremely important that this Court protect the First Amendment and Due Process rights of John Doe 21 and the other anonymous Defendants drawn into this litigation. Though silly, the statement at issue here, i.e., "Women named Jill and [Doe II's equally common first name] should be raped,"

constitutes constitutionally protected speech. The Subpoena should be quashed.

Link: http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=11559#11568

Author: Daily Docket [107] ()

Posted: 02/27/08 04:04 PM

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BACKGROUND

Plaintiffs' Amended Complaint, which includes allegations ranging from intentional infliction of emotional distress and false light, Amended Complaint ("Complaint") at ~~ 62-83, appears to center on claims of defamation and copyright infringement. Most of the named Defendants, including John Doe 21, are anonymous, appear to have no relationship to each other, do not appear to know Plaintiffs, and are identified only by their screen names. John Doe 21 has never met Plaintiffs, nor does he reside in Connecticut.

Plaintiffs filed the original Complaint on June 8, 2007, in front of the Honorable Judge Christopher Droney of the Connecticut District Court for the District of Connecticut, alleging that certain posters on Autoadmit.com, a discussion site known for its silly banter and near absolute unreliability as a source of useful information, had posted comments that caused Plaintiffs a smorgasbord of harms, including causing one plaintiff to fail to receive job offers from top-tier law firms. Complaint at 1. After numerous extension requests, see Motions for Extension of Time (totaling 4), Plaintiffs on November 8, 2007, filed an Amended Complaint, dropping several Defendants and naming others, including John Doe 21. Amended Complaint at 1. Plaintiffs continued to file various motions which went unopposed by apparently unaware Defendants (see First MOTION for Extension of Time until July 7, 2008 to Modify the Scheduling Order; Plaintiffs' Motion for Expedited Discovery, Memorandum in Support Plaintiffs' Memorandum of Law in Support of Motion for Expedited Discovery), and sought and were granted leave to issue subpoenas to Internet service providers in order to locate and identify the anonymous Defendants, presumably for the purposes of drawing the actual identities of Defendants into this litigation and attributing to Defendants comments posted anonymously on Autoadmit. One such subpoena reached John Doe 21. The Subpoena was addressed to AT&T, Inc., an Internet service provider, and demanded the identity of the person who posted comments presumably traceable to the IP address 75.18.198.98. See Exhibit 1.

The Subpoena, received by John Doe 21 on or around the 18 of February 2008, originally sought and granted in Connecticut District Court, was apparently filed and issued from the United States District Court for the Central District of California. Exhibit 1. The Subpoena states that John Doe 21 has 10 days in which to prepare a motion to quash, a protective order or other motion to prevent AT&T from divulging information pertaining to his identity to Plaintiffs. This 10 day period was negotiated by Plaintiffs attorneys and AT&T. See Exhibit 1, Subpoena to AT&T at 1. Apparently, 10 days is enough time for John Doe 21 to prepare a motion concerning an area of law with which he has never dealt and concerning a multitude of federal procedural issues that only experienced litigators such as Plaintiffs' attorneys are able to navigate. On the other hand, Plaintiffs, by seeking time extension after extension, have carefully planned their strategy over a period of nearly 10 months. It has therefore taken Plaintiffs, with the aid of a cadre of competent attorneys, 10 months to craft their case, yet Plaintiffs think it appropriate to give John Doe 21 ten days to craft his.

Furthermore, the Subpoena fails to mention John Doe 21's pseudonymous identity, "AK47," fails to identify the specific court division within the Central District of California (the Central District of California contains four separate court divisions) that issued the Subpoena, and fails to otherwise identify the purpose for its issuance. Nor, to John Doe 21's knowledge, do any of Plaintiffs' moving documents in the Connecticut litigation contain any evidence linking the IP address sought to any comment posted on Autoadmit. The only piece of information related to this case mentioned in the Subpoena is John Doe 21's IP address, an address presumably linked to a comment that Plaintiffs found objectionable. Yet, this bare bones document has the potential to eviscerate John Doe 21's constitutionally guaranteed right to speak anonymously.

Link: http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=11559#11569

Author: Daily Docket [107] ()

Posted: 02/27/08 04:07 PM

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SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT

This Motion presents the Court with the issue of what standard should be applied to determine whether, in this particular case, the right to obtain redress from a silly statement on Autoadmit.com outweighs John Doe 21's First Amendment right to make speak anonymously. Few courts have considered this question, but it is becoming a crucial one, particularly in light of the increasing number of cases where those who have been criticized on the Internet seek to use the machinery of the courts to unmask, intimidate and silence their online critics. Indeed, as a California District Court recently remarked, "[p]eople who have committed no wrong should be able to participate online without fear that someone who wishes to harass or embarrass them can file a frivolous lawsuit and thereby gain the power of the court's order to discover their identities." Columbia Ins. Co. v. seescandy.com, 185 F.R.D. 573,578 (N.D. Cal. 1999) (considering the discovery standards applicable to the unveiling of a defendant's identity in a domain name/trademark matter).

In light of the significant privacy and free speech issues involved in unveiling the identities of anonymous speakers, a balancing test has been developed to decide whether to require the identification of anonymous speakers in litigation. Under that test, the Court will balance the harm to John Doe 21 against the Plaintiffs' need for discovery to pursue their claim. On the facts of this case, there can be no doubt that John Doe 21's right to speak anonymously should prevail.

Link: http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=11559#11570

Author: Daily Docket [107] ()

Posted: 02/27/08 04:10 PM

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A. THE FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTS JOHN DOE 21'S RIGHT TO SPEAK ANONYMOUSLY

It hardly bears mention that the First Amendment protects the right to speak anonymously. The Bill of Rights and the Constitution were designed by citizens who publicly debated these documents' virtues anonymously (or pseudonymously) in letters published later as the Federalist Papers. The First and Fourth Amendments are based "at least in part on the colonists' experience with the sedition laws of England which forbade anonymous writing and which allowed warrantless invasion of any home to root out the true identity of anonymous authors." Nelson B. Lasson, The History and Development of the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution, 37-50 (1937). The Supreme Court has repeatedly affirmed this right. Buckley v. American Constitutional Law Found. Inc., 525 U.S. 182, 197-200 (1999); McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Comm'n., 514 U.S. 334 (1995); Talley v. California, 362 U.S. 60 (1960). These cases signify the important role of anonymous speech in the United States' history.

The Supreme Court unequivocally held in Reno v. ACLU, 521 U.S. at 870, that speech on the Internet is entitled to the full spectrum of First Amendment protections. Observing that the World Wide Web is a medium for public argument and discussion that reaches more people than any other known medium, the Court stated that "content on the Internet is as diverse as human thought." Reno, 521 U.S. at 870

In the online realm, numerous cases have upheld the constitutional right to speak anonymously on the Internet. ACLU v. Johnson, 4 F. Supp. 2d 1029, 1033 (D.N.M. 1998) aff'd, 194 F.3d 1149 (10th Cir. 1999); ACLU of Georgia, 977 F. Supp. at 1232-33; see also ApolloMEDIA Corp. v. Reno, 526 U.S. 1061 (1999), aff'g 19 F. Supp. 2d 1081 (N.D. Cal. 1998) (protecting anonymous speakers on web site at www.annoy.com, a site "created and designed to annoy" legislators through anonymous communications). The mechanics of the Internet, however, provides numerous ways to track the statements of anonymous speakers, prompting many commentators to argue that the law ought to provide special protections for Internet anonymity. See, e.g., David G. Post, Pooling Intellectual Capital: Thoughts of Anonymity, Pseudonymity, and Limited Liability in Cyberspace, 1996 U. Chi. Legal F. 139; Lee Tien, Innovation and the Information Environment: Who's Afraid of Anonymous Speech? McIntyre and the Internet, 75 Or. L. Rev. 117 (1996).

Because the First Amendment protects the right to speak anonymously, a subpoena for anonymous speakers' names and addresses is subject to a qualified privilege. And, as in other cases in which litigants seek privileged information, courts must consider the privilege before authorizing discovery. See Sony Music Entmn't v. Does, 326 F.Supp.2d 556,565 (S.D.N.Y. 2004) ("Against the backdrop of First Amendment protection for anonymous speech, courts have held that civil subpoenas seeking information regarding anonymous individuals raise First Amendment concerns.").

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396920)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:17 PM
Author: onyx razzle university

I dont think you understand the hilarity:

Date: November 10th, 2007 12:59 AM

Author: AK47

it's actually an interesting case. if you actually understood the issues or were familiar with any of the legal issues presented in it, i'd discuss it with you. thank goodness people like you never become prestigious lawyers or judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=714757&forum_id=2#8876598

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396924)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:32 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

ROFL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397003)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:41 PM
Author: Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman

fucking THANK YOU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397056)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:10 PM
Author: onyx razzle university

Lulz, NYU grads. Stick to basketball, whokebe!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396892)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:13 PM
Author: Abusive plaza

AK47 = whokebe? i mean, i wouldn't be surprised but he still posts here under like 45 different monikers, right?

also, whokebe/AK47 went to NYU?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396905)





Date: February 27th, 2008 8:13 PM
Author: Contagious Newt

whokebe went to Stern undergrad, everybody knows that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398048)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:13 PM
Author: Demanding aromatic station becky

whokebe would never live in vallejo.

hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396906)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:15 PM
Author: Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman

Is the lawsuit worth it, for this alone?

Possibly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396917)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:17 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

oh yes it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396921)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:18 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

TITCR.

I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of the Does trace back to that one IP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396926)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:19 PM
Author: Appetizing Flirting School Cafeteria

Was AK47 named in the original filing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396935)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:24 PM
Author: Maniacal wrinkle forum

i don't think so. i think he was added later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396960)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:26 PM
Author: Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman

I think he was added in the amended complaint, after he made comments about the Does when the lawsuit was originally filed (someone correct me here if I'm wrong)

That makes it doubley lulz-worthy, if I remember the timeline correctly. Even sweeter is that after he was added he came to the board laughing off the lawsuit, saying he'd never be outted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396969)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:32 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

yeah. seriously what a faggot. he knows there's litigation pending but doesnt stfu and tosses out "so and so should be raped."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396999)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:27 PM
Author: laughsome cyan skinny woman mediation

Yeah. I felt pretty bad for AHWIAB but I think this puts me in the Doe section of the bleachers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396974)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:18 PM
Author: Red gunner state

Will he be disbarred?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396931)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:19 PM
Author: onyx razzle university

If he wrote that brief, I doubt he is an attorney; but if he is, he should be disbarred just because of how terrible it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396939)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:25 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

pretty sure he's transactional

i guess he doesnt write memos/briefs too often. lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396964)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:18 PM
Author: dull temple jew

Has anyone confirmed this? Haven't they made up lawsuit related stuff before?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396932)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:18 PM
Author: Demanding aromatic station becky

So can we assume AK47 works in SF and takes the ferry to work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396933)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:19 PM
Author: Red gunner state

Yes, and he said he was from the Bay Area.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396936)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:23 PM
Author: avocado stead

Why the hell would he live in Vallejo? It always sounded like he worked in SF--Vallejo to SF is a shitty commute and Vallejo sucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396953)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:30 PM
Author: Harsh macaca

i just looked up my ip address. it shows a nearby city, but not the one i live in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396993)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:32 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Correct. This traces back to the ISP, not to the specific address of the internet user. Someone living in SF could very easy trace back to SBC in Vallejo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397007)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:33 PM
Author: avocado stead

OIC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397012)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:19 PM
Author: crawly motley school

i think he has a good argument (so far as i have read on blb).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396938)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:22 PM
Author: onyx razzle university

"This Motion presents the Court with the issue of what standard should be applied to determine whether, in this particular case, the right to obtain redress from a silly statement on Autoadmit.com outweighs John Doe 21's First Amendment right to make speak anonymously."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396950)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:24 PM
Author: Appetizing Flirting School Cafeteria

I guess this proves he might be AZN.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396958)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:24 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396959)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:24 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Rape is silly!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396962)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:28 PM
Author: laughsome cyan skinny woman mediation

Silly statement jurisprudence is quite a legal thicket indeed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396979)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:29 PM
Author: Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman

making speak is another undeniably murky area of law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396986)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:31 PM
Author: onyx razzle university

1 billion.

This is the second time you've made me laugh out loud at work today. ty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396995)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:37 PM
Author: laughsome cyan skinny woman mediation

yw, yw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397037)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:28 PM
Author: Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman

Do a "control-f" on that page for silly. It's awesome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396983)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:29 PM
Author: crawly motley school

well it seems like it could be edited over a few times, but he has done some research and apparently all federal cases to address the issue apply a favorable balancing test.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396987)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:30 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Karate

Obama is right. This really is SILLY SEASON.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396990)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:33 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

nice callback!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397291)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:32 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

fake, lame attempt to drive traffic to that board. No one reads that, so why would anything show up there first? FAKE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397001)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:33 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

hi ak47!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397009)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:34 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

stupid, it's obviously fake

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397021)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:35 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Karate

BLB scopes AA on the lawsuit all the time:

http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=10134&x=83

http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=9406&x=86

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397028)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:37 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

who reads that board? it gets like 10 hits per day.

Someone either confirms with a real link or its fake

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397036)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:11 PM
Author: onyx razzle university

You're right, someone spent 3 days researching and preparing a fake brief in order to drive 100 more hits over to BLB. You cracked the case, gumshoe!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397173)





Date: February 27th, 2008 10:18 PM
Author: blue diverse masturbator filthpig

Owned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398603)





Date: February 27th, 2008 11:04 PM
Author: Appetizing Flirting School Cafeteria

Damn you. I just spit my coke all over my laptop. Gumshoe did me in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398831)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:32 PM
Author: Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop

So he apparently either goes to Hastings, San Fran, Golden Gate (lulz), or Cal Western

anyone care to venture a guess which one?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397005)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:33 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Trustafarian strikes again?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397010)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:34 PM
Author: Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop

I think that dood went to Davis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397016)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:35 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

he went to boalt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397024)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:35 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Boalt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397025)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:37 PM
Author: avocado stead

I'm pretty sure he graduated. He was very active in Bar exam threads at one point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397035)





Date: March 4th, 2008 9:24 AM
Author: Cerebral legal warrant

Hastings.

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=269266&mc=21&forum_id=2#3937634

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=227720&mc=11&forum_id=2#3414206

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=213861&mc=51&forum_id=2#3210158

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9425635)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:35 PM
Author: Tripping bateful juggernaut national

He was pretty stupid to respond in the way he did. He should have denied that the IP was his and disputed the accuracy of the records at the ISP.

The way he responded shows that it actually was him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397023)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:36 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

This seems exactly wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397029)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:38 PM
Author: Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop

dooder I used to work for an ISP and I can tell you that would not have been a successful approach at all. it would be like trying to claim a phone number isn't yours, even though you paid the bills and made calls from the phone that it was assigned to

his only chance is to try to convince the judge that he should be able to remain anonymous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397040)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:42 PM
Author: Tripping bateful juggernaut national

it has worked in RIAA suits dood.

this is what has caused grandmothers and 6 year olds to get named in RIAA suits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397058)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:43 PM
Author: Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop

link?

ppl always tried to claim our records were wrong and I would have to either go testify or sign a sworn affidavit saying why they were wrong

it never went any further than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397063)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:46 PM
Author: Tripping bateful juggernaut national

plenty of it here http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397078)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:48 PM
Author: Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop

nah, you're just confusing lame legal arguments with legal precedent

ppl always try to argue that the records are wrong but its very simple to show that they're accurate

I've never heard of anyone winning on that argument, and neither have you

the kiddie porn people always tried to make that argument too, and it never worked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397084)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:51 PM
Author: Tripping bateful juggernaut national

please explain to me then how grandmothers who have never heard of "mp3" get sued then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397093)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:52 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

I believe the case you're referring to was a situation in which a grandmother got sued for the file-sharing done on her account by a grandchild. It wasn't a case of mistaken IP address.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397099)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:54 PM
Author: Tripping bateful juggernaut national

"the case" ?? It has happened a lot more than once

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397107)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:00 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Link? I've only heard one such claim made before and tend to think this is simply anti-RIAA mythology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397129)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:10 PM
Author: Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop

titcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397166)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:34 PM
Author: Tripping bateful juggernaut national

2005

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/6038.cfm

2003

"She does not trade music, she says, does not have any younger music-loving relatives living with her, and does not use her computer for much more than sending e-mail and checking the tides."

http://www.boingboing.net/2003/09/25/riaa-sues-grandmothe.html

another one

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/27/woman_sues_riaa/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397299)





Date: February 29th, 2008 2:20 PM
Author: Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop

these are cases where the ISP obviously made an error, and in these cases, it can be shown exactly what their error was...

this is a situation where the ISP simply goes back and looks at its records and says, "oops, yeah, we fucked up. that IP address really belonged to John Doe and not this old woman."

In which case, the RIAA just goes after the correct offender

In the vast majorty of cases though, the person who the ISP identifies as the offender is going to be the correct offender, and if that person challenges the accuracy of the ISPs records, the ISP will simply have someone go to court to testify to their authenticity or sign a sworn affidavit to that effect (which is what usually happens since people who know they are guilty don't spend too much time challenging this since they know they can and will be shown to be the offender anyway).

this is done all the time dooder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9406528)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:52 PM
Author: Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop

because they own the account from which the alleged infringement was taking place.

as the named account holder, they are deemed to be responsible, unless they can present evidence that it was another member of the household

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397100)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:48 PM
Author: Tripping bateful juggernaut national

Also, look at the recent motion to quash that was filed in oregon. I know it was for the university and not an ISP but the same arguments would probably work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397081)





Date: February 27th, 2008 9:07 PM
Author: Disturbing Geriatric Orchestra Pit Faggotry

Question @ Lamronba: What about wireless internet connections? I know in the past I've logged into wifi connections of my surrounding apt neighbors, albeit by accident. Whats to say an IP address was not used by someone other than the person who payed the bills?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398326)





Date: February 27th, 2008 9:14 PM
Author: Disturbing Geriatric Orchestra Pit Faggotry

??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398358)





Date: February 27th, 2008 9:15 PM
Author: autistic poppy coffee pot

Plausible explanation. To tell the difference I think they'd have to have a MAC address.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398361)





Date: February 28th, 2008 10:28 AM
Author: Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop

this is a bit of a gray area. as a matter of our company policy, we held the account holder responsible, but there's not a lot of legal precedent here

however, it's also a violation of state law in a lot of places for internet subscribers to redistribute or otherwise make available (i.e., not securing their wireless network) the internet connection that they pay their ISPs for, and we nailed people on that alone more than once.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9400377)





Date: February 27th, 2008 8:12 PM
Author: bonkers idiot

what a completely inane idea.

and have you ever heard of the concept "arguing in the alternative"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398040)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:41 PM
Author: Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman

Also, AK47, we know you're reading this thread.

PWNED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397052)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:41 PM
Author: Slimy Odious Faggot Firefighter

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397055)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:42 PM
Author: lavender fear-inspiring famous landscape painting laser beams

wgwag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397059)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:42 PM
Author: Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman

Date: November 10th, 2007 1:25 AM

Author: AK47

IIED is a nigger of a tort. you're right that it'd be fucked up if i were outed. you're definitely right about that. but again, IIED, defamation, or whatever the hell they're alleging AK47 did, is a hell of a nigger of a tort. NIGGER.

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=714757&forum_id=2#8876693

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397060)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:44 PM
Author: laughsome cyan skinny woman mediation

This really should have been incorporated in his brief.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397066)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:46 PM
Author: Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman

180 again. On fire today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397079)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:56 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

lulz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397111)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:56 PM
Author: onyx razzle university

I think that's going to be in the order the judge enters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397112)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:45 PM
Author: Red gunner state

Odds AK47 dropped the N-bomb in his brief?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397068)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:46 PM
Author: Ivory sadistic trust fund

His outting will be the biggest in xo history it seems. Have other outted posters made such inflammatory posts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397076)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:48 PM
Author: Adulterous Step-uncle's House Patrolman

The only other one that would be as legendary is pauliewalnuts, but he never said anything that inflammatory, and there's a good chance that he was pensive anyway.

So yeah, AK47 would be absolutely raped... er, fucked over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397082)





Date: February 27th, 2008 9:47 PM
Author: Buff Coldplay Fan Locale

Nice try... You are sooooooo getting sued and outted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398488)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:53 PM
Author: dull temple jew

I don't see anything about this on PACER. Where did they get it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397101)





Date: February 27th, 2008 4:58 PM
Author: crawly motley school

ha the ali g ice cream gloves defense (internet search for ice cream: 73,239 hits. Internet search for gloves: 24,243 hits):

"Indeed, a Google.com search for "Jill" produces more than 74,000,000 results, and a search for Doe II's first name produces more than 46,000,000. If John Doe 21's words are indeed actionable, then John Doe 21 - along with any other person that mentions "Jill" or Doe II's innumerably common first name on the Internet in the context of an unsavory, if silly, suggestion or opinion - may have opened himself to nearly 120,000,000 lawsuits."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397120)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:15 PM
Author: wine internet-worthy institution chad

nice Ali G reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397191)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:05 PM
Author: Stimulating ruddy ratface garrison

Can someone explain in laymen's terms what happened here? I'm not comfortable with the legal jargon and don't feel like deciphering all of that stuff at work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397146)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:07 PM
Author: pea-brained green athletic conference

does subpoena AT&T for IP address related to AK47

AK47 moves 3rd party to quash the subpoena, i.e. to keep AT&T from responding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397150)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:09 PM
Author: avocado stead

"legal jargon"?

You don't what the words "quash" and "subpoena" mean?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397162)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:24 PM
Author: Dashing lime theatre

those words constitute legal jargon dooder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397232)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:13 PM
Author: crawly motley school

GTO sold him out:

"Plaintiffs are attempting to intimidate John Doe 21 in much the same way that Plaintiffs intimidated and the original principal defendant in this case, Anthony Ciolli, into providing Does with the internet protocol ("IP") addresses of John Doe 21 and the other Defendants. Defendant Ciolli provided Plaintiffs with John Doe 21's IP address despite the lack of any legal duty or mandate to do so. Defendant Ciolli is immune from liability under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which states that "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider," and effectively immunizes ISPs, Internet discussion board operators such as Mr. Ciolli, and other service providers from torts committed by users over their systems. However, Defendant Ciolli acquiesced to the demands of Plaintiffs, no doubt because of the prospect of litigating an expensive suit in federal court."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397183)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:21 PM
Author: Irradiated transparent halford trailer park

What would it take to get GTO to sell out JBD?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397218)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:15 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Some googling and investigating has led me to this conclusion:

AK47 = old xoxo poster Chauncey

--

AK47's subpoenaed IP address is 75.18.198.98

--

A google search of 75.18.198.98 turns up a comment made by a user named "Chauncey" on the website blackprof.com http://www.blackprof.com/archives/exports/072007.txt

--

"Chauncey" is a frequent commentator on that site. See, e.g.,

COMMENT:

AUTHOR: Chauncey

EMAIL:

IP: 75.18.187.200

URL:

DATE: 06/29/2007 04:41:57 PM

blacks in america will stay poor and violent as long as they consider it an insult when anyone tells them they need to take more responsibility for their predicament. personality, i don't really care: i've already made it. if you people want to maintain the status-quo, then go right ahead.

http://www.blackprof.com/archives/exports/062007.txt

--

And finally, here's a post from xoxo's Chauncey where he admits to living in SF:

Date: August 19th, 2005 12:19 PM

Author: Chauncey

and to think. I used to be repulsed by the flambouyancy (sp?) of gay men. i live in san francisco.

please, please hurry up and die of AIDS, all of you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=242779&forum_id=2#3629575)

--

Okay xoxo investigators: get to work looking through blackprof and autoadmit archives to try and track down more information about this guy.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397189)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:16 PM
Author: Slimy Odious Faggot Firefighter

lol oh snap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397198)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:18 PM
Author: avocado stead

LOL. Damn, AK47 is a true psycho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397208)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:25 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

He appears to hold himself out on the blackprof site as a successful black man who is critical of today's black community, but here he is on xoxo admitting that he's Jewish:

Date: September 20th, 2005 1:47 AM

Author: Chauncey

As a flaming jooooooo, I can definitively confirm that it is pronounced "Sun- STEEN."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=262546&forum_id=2#3863053)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397240)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:35 PM
Author: Filthy Mauve Multi-billionaire

one of the rare black jews?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397300)





Date: February 27th, 2008 10:46 PM
Author: Tripping bateful juggernaut national

there was a gay black jew guy on the Real World once. He slapped some chick on the show and almost got kicked off. Was on the west coast too! (Seattle? I believe).

Anyways, this could be him, same demeanor. Wow we may have a real celebrity in our midst.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398740)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:20 PM
Author: Spectacular dingle berry gaming laptop

wowzer!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397214)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:24 PM
Author: Stimulating ruddy ratface garrison

i used to think the racism was schtick. now i doubt it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397237)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:27 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Same here. It's truly frightening. I also used to be convinced that people like aznazn are schtick, but I no longer believe so. This place attracts some truly fucked up psychotics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397258)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:34 PM
Author: laughsome cyan skinny woman mediation

At some point, even if it's meant to be schtick, the relentless pursuit of the schtick is itself evidence of psychosis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397294)





Date: February 27th, 2008 10:47 PM
Author: Tripping bateful juggernaut national

now maybe people will believe me when I say hizzla is real and not schtick. because I've met her and it's true, she's not schtick. gahhh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398746)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:26 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

NOW THIS IS PRICELESS!

OP: getting sued by RIAA/MPAA for copyright infringement

Date: August 26th, 2005 11:33 PM

Author: Chauncey

You're an idiot for getting caught, if that's any help.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=247489&forum_id=2#3685837)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397252)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:33 PM
Author: marvelous drunken principal's office rigpig

Welcome to last month.

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221577

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397286)





Date: February 27th, 2008 5:34 PM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Yes, but we now know it is Ak47. This was not known last month.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397296)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:06 AM
Author: scarlet shrine

One of those CA posts that got deleted called this one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399398)





Date: February 27th, 2008 6:15 PM
Author: Tripping bateful juggernaut national

The real question is, why did the faggots at BLB notice the filing and start the thread before the XOXOers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397537)





Date: February 27th, 2008 6:19 PM
Author: Cerebral legal warrant

Because no one on XO is an actual attorney or has access to PACER? It's all HS dropout flame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397557)





Date: February 27th, 2008 7:10 PM
Author: concupiscible apoplectic lodge water buffalo

Anyone can get access to PACER. I set up an account a few weeks ago to search for something for my brother. It only charges you when it gets to $10.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397763)





Date: February 27th, 2008 7:00 PM
Author: arousing voyeur meetinghouse

Because someone over there impulsively checks justia?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397725)





Date: February 27th, 2008 7:04 PM
Author: Territorial erotic cuck

It's not on justia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397733)





Date: February 27th, 2008 10:30 PM
Author: blue diverse masturbator filthpig

BLB posters are former XOXO regulars who got sick of all the garbage on here. As a result, BLB posts are of higher quality than XOXO posts. By far. That's why XOXO trolls emphasize the lack of quantity and ignore quality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398658)





Date: February 27th, 2008 7:09 PM
Author: sickened self-absorbed haunted graveyard

WAIT, HOW'D THEY GET HIS IP? I thought there were no IP logs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397757)





Date: February 27th, 2008 7:14 PM
Author: lake mad cow disease hominid

according to the AK47 brief, GTO told plaintiffs. that doesn't necessarily mean that Rach kept logs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397778)





Date: February 27th, 2008 9:11 PM
Author: autistic poppy coffee pot

GTO somehow had knowledge of his IP address and remembered it among others? wtf?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398346)





Date: February 27th, 2008 7:19 PM
Author: Adventurous doctorate people who are hurt

180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397805)





Date: February 27th, 2008 8:20 PM
Author: wine internet-worthy institution chad

AK47 was a well known spammer, Rach/GTO logged spammer IPs to ban them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398075)





Date: February 27th, 2008 8:24 PM
Author: Primrose aphrodisiac address mother

This is actually a very good point. If it turns out that nobody else but AK is outed, I think it's most likely what happened.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398098)





Date: February 27th, 2008 9:37 PM
Author: Harsh macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398441)





Date: February 27th, 2008 10:01 PM
Author: hairraiser persian blood rage

"Plaintiffs filed the original Complaint on June 8, 2007... alleging that certain posters on Autoadmit.com, a discussion site known for its silly banter and a pretty fucking shitty source of information, see http://xoxo-a-pretty-shitty-source-of-information.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=184688&mc=381&forum_id=2..."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398541)





Date: February 27th, 2008 10:36 PM
Author: mahogany federal azn

Whether he deserves it or not, if GTO sold him out, GTO is a piece of shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398688)





Date: February 27th, 2008 10:40 PM
Author: avocado stead

dood, GTO lost his fucking legal career due to this shit. If I were him why would I care about protecting AK47?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398703)





Date: February 27th, 2008 10:44 PM
Author: mahogany federal azn

The only thing left the fucker has is his dignity. His whole purpose here was to protect people's identity in order to create an environment in which people could say whatever they wanted. He has betrayed his prinicples.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398730)





Date: February 27th, 2008 11:04 PM
Author: floppy maroon philosopher-king

titcr. don't forget his holier-than-thou attitude when he was interacting with volokh back when.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398828)





Date: February 27th, 2008 10:59 PM
Author: Supple Useless Brakes Tattoo

what would he gain at this point from helping any party?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398810)





Date: February 27th, 2008 10:49 PM
Author: bonkers idiot

do you also believe "it's all about respect" and "it's wrong to be a tattle tale"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398756)





Date: February 27th, 2008 10:57 PM
Author: mahogany federal azn

no, wtf are you talking about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398801)





Date: February 27th, 2008 11:52 PM
Author: umber exciting theater stage

lol at you for thinking that it's more dignified for him to aid ak47 than seeking to placate the does

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399032)





Date: February 27th, 2008 11:42 PM
Author: Translucent sandwich

I am not a lawyer. Explain to me why I can't express my desire that specific individuals be raped.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399005)





Date: February 27th, 2008 11:49 PM
Author: umber exciting theater stage

cuz when you do it on a message board that the individuals' community reads, its intentional infliction of emotional distress. especially when it's part of a larger mob assault on the individuals' reputation and peace of mind.

redress for injury and deterring antisocial behavior are core principles of tort law, you simpleton faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399026)





Date: February 28th, 2008 12:01 AM
Author: Translucent sandwich

thanks mang. you're right, I should be aware of the core principles of tort law, not being a lawyer and all. my bad.

something just seems off about the whole thing. honestly, I have no idea how intentional infliction of emotional distress is proved. does it make a difference if it was intended as a joke? I mean, you could look at all that guys' posts and I'm guessing he's wished rape on a lot of people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399051)





Date: February 28th, 2008 12:43 AM
Author: umber exciting theater stage

i don't see what's off. given the context (a board campaign to harass the does), i think his motives are clear enough--certainly clear enough to support the subpeona. i have no idea about the specific standard for IIED in that jurisdiction, but it seems obvious to me that the traditional elements are met.

i think it sounds strange to you cuz if he's punished, it seems like we're all vulnerable. but then again, having a hair trigger on your gun doesn't justify shooting someone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399272)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:44 AM
Author: splenetic titillating ceo dog poop

There were some posts and actions that I believe constitute IIED.

I don't think 'Doe and doe should be raped' is even close, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399724)





Date: February 27th, 2008 11:48 PM
Author: floppy maroon philosopher-king

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/connecticut/ctdce/3:2007cv00909/78132/25/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399023)





Date: February 28th, 2008 12:14 AM
Author: indigo hideous sneaky criminal

TYTYTYTY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399120)





Date: February 28th, 2008 12:54 AM
Author: electric police squad travel guidebook

Wow. Unbelievable. There are some solid legal points in there, but they're pretty much lost amid the hyperbole and snide remarks.

Hint: if you want a court to rule in your favor, don't whine about how the suit has wasted your (and the court's) time. Just make your arguments and be done with it. If it really is a waste of time, the judge will be able to figure it out on his (or her) own. The attempts to rationalize the comments are the worst. They read like the rants of a petulant five year old. It's sad, because there are some seeds of legal analysis - quite possibly enough to win the motion - amidst the almost 30 pages of bile. But the tone and lack of propriety is almost certain to lead a judge to rule against him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399336)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:00 AM
Author: Territorial erotic cuck

"But the tone and lack of propriety is almost certain to lead a judge to rule against him."

Um, no. I take it you have never clerked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399366)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:05 AM
Author: electric police squad travel guidebook

i should have said "almost certain to lead a judge to look for any possible reason to rule against him."

obviously, tone alone won't make you lose if the law is on your side. but if you piss off the judge with a rambling, insulting 30 page response, the benefit of the doubt will go the other way when the law is murky.

but who knows. maybe the response will amuse the judge and the subpoena will be quashed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399395)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:20 AM
Author: Territorial erotic cuck

The comment is so crude that it may almost certainly "lead a judge to look for any possible reason to rule against him," like you said.But there's almost no doubt in my mind that the subpoena will be quashed. Even without getting into all the nitty gritty details of pseudonymous internet speech, the fact that there's virtually no way that the comment can be tied specifically to Doe II even if there was more discovery is pretty damning.

Certainly the crassness of the comment & his tone (and the excessive length) of his motion would draw a snide comment or two from the judge if there was a hearing or written ruling.

It's too bad for the Ps that this is one of the few (only?) Defendants whose IP address they uncovered.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399465)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:34 AM
Author: umber exciting theater stage

you seem not to realize how a normal IRL person reads a line like "X and Y should be raped". especially when Y is the first name of a famous board figure. its completely absurd to argue that he was referring to someone else, or speaking in generalizations

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399519)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:42 AM
Author: Territorial erotic cuck

You seem to not realize that there are literally millions of different topics posted about here- not just the Does- and that AK47's comment ("Women named [X] and [Y] should be raped") cannot be interpreted as referring to a specific individual. Especially since one of the names has nothing to do with the Does. If you take the situation and apply it IRL instead of on this board, it doesn't even pass the laugh test. Especially for an IIED claim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399544)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:45 AM
Author: umber exciting theater stage

theres assloads of circumstantial evidence. and this is a subpeona in a civil suit. he's going to be outted dood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399553)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:52 AM
Author: Territorial erotic cuck

We shall see. I look forward to reading the Opposition.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399575)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:50 AM
Author: splenetic titillating ceo dog poop

'raped' in that context means 'I hope bad things happen to' someone as much or more than it means 'sexually assaulted'.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399752)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:12 AM
Author: walnut cracking church

I appreciated smart-ass writing when I was clerking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399428)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:21 AM
Author: electric police squad travel guidebook

did you read it? i'd argue there's a difference between smart-ass and immature/petulant, and this is waaaay more the latter. it wasn't clever, it was just pathetic and whiny.

and it doesn't help when it's coming from a defendant that is already a rather unsympathetic figure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399469)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:23 AM
Author: Territorial erotic cuck

Almost all pro per/pro se papers are whiny, angry, and rambling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399480)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:12 AM
Author: Tripping bateful juggernaut national

that would be funny if he put his real name in the return address section on the envelope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399427)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:13 AM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Wow, this may be the highlight of the brief:

"The fact that Plaintiffs gratuitously mentioned one "R--n M-----r" in their moving documents (see, e.g., Plaintiffs' Memorandum of Law in Support of Motion for Expedited Discovery at 11) suggests that Plaintiffs' true goal in filing the complaint and this subpoena is simply to expose the identity of the Defendants in this case, humiliate them by attributing to them the comments made on the site, coerce them into silence, and then abandon the case due to its frivolity. Indeed, R--n M-----r has already been parodied, insulted and attacked on the Autoadmit site due to his name appearing in Plaintiffs' moving papers. A Google.com search for "R--n M-----r" produces, as thefirstfour results, four Autoadmit threads in which R--n M-----r is alleged to be a "dirty snitching nigger" due to his connection with this case."

AK47 begging the court to protect his identity so that nobody on xoxo can call him a "nigger" deserves a true 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399433)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:22 AM
Author: Territorial erotic cuck

Yeah, I really would have left out that part. He's basically asking the Court to spare him the same treatment that the Ds gave to the Does. Not very sympathetic at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399475)





Date: February 28th, 2008 12:10 AM
Author: crawly motley school

after the original suit was filed, did GTO have the duty not to destroy records relevant to the litigation? maybe ak47's stupid idea to post after the suit was his undoing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399088)





Date: February 28th, 2008 12:50 AM
Author: umber exciting theater stage

wow, i can't believe KVN/YLS are enlisted to engage this sort of nonsense:

Plaintiffs' Amended Complaint alleges that John Doe 21's comment constitutes a description of "sexual violence" against the plaintiff whose first name was mentioned in the comment. Amended Complaint at §§ 43-i; 49. As explained above, however, John Doe's comment was not a "description" of anything. He was not "describing" an event he had perceived, nor was he "describing" an event that had transpired or was to transpire. In any event, if "descriptions of sexual violence" were sufficient, in whole or in part, to bring an action for intentional infliction of emotional distress, then hundreds of thousands of police officers and crisis counselors across the country would be open to lawsuits alleging intentional infliction of emotional distress since they routinely articulate "descriptions of sexual violence" against persons. Courts should not countenance such a blatant abuse of the legal system to unveil and intimidate anonymous speakers, and it is rather offensive that Plaintiffs are attempting to appeal to this Courts' sympathies by misquoting John Doe 21's comment and lumping it with other more offensive comments, thereby attributing those other comments to John Doe 21.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399311)





Date: February 28th, 2008 12:56 AM
Author: electric police squad travel guidebook

That has to be the best quote from the entire response. Second would be the 120,000,000 Jills rant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399354)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:05 AM
Author: wine internet-worthy institution chad

jesus christ that is horrible reasoning

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399393)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:10 AM
Author: Irradiated transparent halford trailer park

There's probably an argument in there somewhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399414)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:54 AM
Author: splenetic titillating ceo dog poop

I think it's decent, ignoring the police/counselor crap part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399757)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:42 AM
Author: Narrow-minded Useless Rehab

lol.. cops and crisis counselors may describe sexual violence but they don't openly call on others to commit it either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399546)





Date: March 4th, 2008 9:51 AM
Author: razzmatazz theater windowlicker

his argument focuses on the word "description" but he only quoted the words "sexual violence" from the Ps' complaint

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9425678)





Date: February 28th, 2008 12:53 AM
Author: Chrome Charismatic Parlour Headpube

holy shit. the greatest moment in the history of this long board. in so many ways, i completely fucking loathe the racist megaposter, but we might as well shut it down because there will never be anything as awesome as this here ever again.

that said, fuck you racist megaposter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399330)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:35 AM
Author: umber exciting theater stage

titcr. this is like the barzini pwnage only with way more schadenfreude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399521)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:40 AM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Damn, I almost forgot about the barzini pwnage. I wonder what the hell that kid is up to. I can't even imagine him functioning without xoxo. He was the original aznazn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399536)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:51 AM
Author: Chrome Charismatic Parlour Headpube

i'm not one of the D's, obviously, but this kind of made me want to file another motion to quash that raised these legal issues without all the piffle. i'd just mail it anonymously claiming to be one of the posters, and while i don't like AK47 i think the does are being ridiculous about this and responding to a spitball with an a-bomb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399571)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:58 AM
Author: Tripping bateful juggernaut national

what was the barzini pwnage? I have been posting here for 3 years and still don't know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399597)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:01 AM
Author: navy embarrassed to the bone set

IIRC: posted here about a girl he had a date with or something, showed pics. someone who knew her IRL recognized her from pics, emailed her links of barzini threads. game over.

thread: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=395748&mc=225&forum_id=2#5535204

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399606)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:04 AM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Highlight of the thread in retrospect:

Date: April 13th, 2006 5:25 AM

Author: The Meanest Fish (ret.)

This is seriously among the most fucked up things that's happened here. Whoever did this is a little bitch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395748&forum_id=2#5573664)

Reply

Date: April 13th, 2006 5:27 AM

Author: AK47

it looks like he deserved it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395748&forum_id=2#5573669)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399615)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:08 AM
Author: navy embarrassed to the bone set

lol good find

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399626)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:49 AM
Author: Narrow-minded Useless Rehab

I personally hate AK47 and think 99% of this response is hyperbolic bullshit. However, one of his points resonates with me. His post, while incendiary as hell, did not constitute a specific reference to the Does. He should not have been named in the complaint.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399566)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:53 AM
Author: Territorial erotic cuck

I am generally sympathetic to the Does and I agree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399577)





Date: February 28th, 2008 1:57 AM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

This is true, but the implication was plenty clear to the intended audience. That might be enough to get them past discovery, but not to succeed on the merits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399590)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:17 AM
Author: indigo hideous sneaky criminal

I think after the Does were initially "outted", they were thrown to the wolves as de facto public figures. Does that mean AK47 needed actual malice to be liable for IIED? If so, I would argue that actual malice is impossible when your incendiary comment lacked adequate identifying information, even if one COULD reasonably infer he was referring to them based on context.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399658)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:23 AM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

This doesn't make any sense. If there's no specific (or implicit?) identification, you never even get to the actual malice issue.

Even if it made sense, there's no reasonable argument to be made that the plaintiffs were public figures.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399671)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:25 AM
Author: indigo hideous sneaky criminal

Once PaulieWalnuts plastered this public message board with the names and pics of the women they became public figures. Subsequent comments made about them by other posters were in reference to these newly minted public figures.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399676)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:27 AM
Author: umber exciting theater stage

psa: you can't invent legal definitions whenever you feel like it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399681)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:30 AM
Author: indigo hideous sneaky criminal

For all you know, I am a Supreme Court Justice and have every right to do so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399686)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:45 AM
Author: nofapping angry dilemma

go to bed clarence, you're up way too late

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399731)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:50 AM
Author: indigo hideous sneaky criminal

I can't get enough of this black on white porn on the net bro. Keeps me up all hours o' the night.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399754)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:30 AM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

That's not nearly enough to make them public figures. They certainly are not general public figures, and it's not even clear that case law recognizes an involuntary limited public figure.

The key issue is whether there was a defamatory statement. That's where the identification issue comes in. The public figure/actual malice issues are pretty cut and dry. They're private figures.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399684)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:33 AM
Author: floppy maroon philosopher-king

dont see any defamation on AK's part. Maybe IIED, but not defamation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399692)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:37 AM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Yeah, you're right. Which makes the entire public figure/actual malice discussion irrelevant as far as AK47 goes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399704)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:39 AM
Author: indigo hideous sneaky criminal

So there's no higher intent threshold for public figures when it comes to IIED?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399713)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:47 AM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

If I recall correctly, the actual malice standard only applies in IIED cases where you're dealing with 1.) a public figure; and 2.) matters of public concern.

Discussion of whether people name X and Y should be raped doesn't qualify as "matters of public concern." So it doesn't matter if the plaintiffs are public figures (which they obviously are not).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399741)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:51 AM
Author: indigo hideous sneaky criminal

Thanks for clearing that up for me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399755)





Date: February 28th, 2008 10:55 AM
Author: crawly motley school

i don't know if there is such a 2-part test...that jerry falwell case was about some playboy article that just parodied some liquor ad and talked about his "first time."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustler_Magazine_v._Falwell

that said, Doe is not a public figure and can't become one just b/c of her initiating litigation.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9400446)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:41 AM
Author: floppy maroon philosopher-king

I think ol' AK wins on the merits, but not so sure about quashing the subpoena.

But query if his firm fires him nonetheless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399717)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:56 AM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

This is probably right. If he can't quash the subpoena, you can be damn sure that he'll get the axe from his firm and be blackballed. Just look at what happened to GTO, who was never even accused of making any inflammatory or derogatory statements. The merits of the suit are practically irrelevant as far as AK47's career is concerned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399758)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:24 AM
Author: umber exciting theater stage

to become an involuntary public figure, you have to act/fail to act in a way in which a reasonable person would understand that publicity would ensue. HTH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399674)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:29 AM
Author: indigo hideous sneaky criminal

Attending the number one ranked law school in the country and flaunting yourself on youtube documentaries discussing your past extracurricular accomplishments might constitute acting in a way which a reasonable person would understand that publicity would ensue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399682)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:31 AM
Author: umber exciting theater stage

you don't know what you're talking about, you should just drop this theory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399689)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:35 AM
Author: indigo hideous sneaky criminal

Pardon me if I don't think going to Yale Law School isn't exactly living a Walden-esque lifestyle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399697)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:38 AM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

Lol. The legal definition of a private figure doesn't require a Walden-esque lifestyle.

99% of the public are private figures.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399711)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:52 AM
Author: indigo hideous sneaky criminal

and 99% of the public doesn't go to YLS. hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399756)





Date: February 28th, 2008 3:01 AM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

This logic is inscrutable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399761)





Date: February 29th, 2008 4:58 AM
Author: impertinent nibblets trump supporter

this is far and away the dumbest thing ive read in my entire life. you are a moron.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9404767)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:34 AM
Author: Exhilarant Twinkling Point

You're out of your element. While defining a public figure is extremely difficult to do, this isn't even a close call.

Attending a top law school and being in a video on youtube does not make one a public figure.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399696)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:37 AM
Author: indigo hideous sneaky criminal

The higher up the social ladder you climb, more people can see you from below

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399706)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:15 AM
Author: umber exciting theater stage

"did not constitute a specific reference to the Does"

this is an open factual matter that turns on circumstantial evidence (other AK47 posts, posts from other monikers at that domain) and AK47's credibility, which isn't helped by the fact that everyone in his right mind knows who he was talking about.

the most defendant friendly rule for subpoenas in anonymous posting cases is that P must have enough evidence to defeat SJ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399653)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:11 AM
Author: Histrionic Tantric Spot Cuckold

Wow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399636)





Date: February 28th, 2008 2:43 AM
Author: chocolate business firm

i am so glad I am a grl with no interest in grls or grls called Heidi

fuck

xoxogenderdickpwned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399720)





Date: February 28th, 2008 4:11 AM
Author: Harsh macaca

what go around come around, kid

what are his other monikers? is he Whitepride?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399822)





Date: February 28th, 2008 11:00 AM
Author: Narrow-minded Useless Rehab

obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9400469)





Date: February 28th, 2008 12:13 PM
Author: avocado stead

No.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9400735)





Date: February 28th, 2008 7:22 PM
Author: thirsty jet roast beef

First, what is the expected timeline here? Does anyone know when an outing would occur, assuming the subpoena is not squashed?

Also, odds that noted CA litigator 174/AK-47 is working both sides of this case?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9402508)





Date: February 29th, 2008 3:16 AM
Author: Arrogant maize space

"Also, odds that noted CA litigator 174/AK-47 is working both sides of this case?"

This would be hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9404556)





Date: March 12th, 2008 1:45 AM
Author: Cocky Weed Whacker Pisswyrm

You mean the odds that AK47 actually works at KVM? HOLY FUCK wouldn't that be hilarious? He would DEFINITELY get fired on the spot for cause and disbarred for that. It would make a hell of a great story though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9466325)





Date: February 29th, 2008 2:59 AM
Author: confused crackhouse boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9404515)





Date: March 4th, 2008 9:29 AM
Author: Cerebral legal warrant

Date: April 19th, 2007 12:36 AM

Author: AK47

in fairness, the people who post about raping jill F are 100 lb gay men with AIDS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=616591&forum_id=2#7960782)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9425645)





Date: March 12th, 2008 1:37 AM
Author: Talented hairless office party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9466308)