Date: May 5th, 2008 8:54 PM Author: contagious market
I know you're a 0L, bitch. That doesn't mean you can't work. I had a paid internship every summer as an undergrad. later, when i was in law school, i actually had something to talk about when firms interviewed me.
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:36 PM Author: heady ruby rehab death wish
Having professional internships on your resume is better than working at a summer camp. These internships are crucial when it comes time to getting hired as an associate who went straight to law school out of undergrad because you have some form of professional experience. HTFH
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:54 PM Author: Dashing stead alpha
d00d, not all of us can use our sexual perference to get us a gig. and, let's be fair, taking it from all those frat d00ds in ug basically = professional experience
Date: May 5th, 2008 11:02 PM Author: contagious market
I don't know about "crucial," but they help a lot. Partners like to see professional work experience. That way they know you actually know how to work in an office environment and aren't a complete fuckup.
Date: May 7th, 2008 8:12 PM Author: Duck-like partner brunch
there are plenty of proxies for being a compliant office lackey. and every little fucker who shows up at a law firm's doorstp has memorized what's "professional" and whats not. you might marvel at your own journey. but take a moment to look around and recognize how common you are (and that's assuming you actually go/went to a good law school, which you clearly don't)
Date: May 7th, 2008 8:05 PM Author: Duck-like partner brunch
"' firms love hiring people with minimal professional work experience."
i'm not sure they "love" it; but you seem to be vastly overstating how detrimental someone having enjoyed a summer that will in fact be totally irrelevant to most hiring decisions will be.
At least my summer of doing nothing was spent REALLY doing nothing, except enjoying myself on an actual prestigious coast line without any responsibility whatsoever (read: North Carolina or South Carolina, wherever, is shit).
I'll give you some advice, even though you are undeserving. Study abroad and party it up, travel, make friends, during the semester then do something meaningful over summer.
Date: May 7th, 2008 8:08 PM Author: Duck-like partner brunch
"hot chinese women"
you just lost me; i'll side with the douche up above who insists this will throw all your interviews off the rails because you lack "professional experience"
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:04 PM Author: Ungodly chapel
OP - fuck all these striver douches who think 'building a resume' is important during undergrad summers. Hang out and get drunk dude - there's plenty of time to work and get this precious 'experience' later.
Also, I make it to kiawah often. Not a whole lot of nightlife, but it's great for what it is. Enjoy.
Date: May 7th, 2008 8:16 PM Author: Duck-like partner brunch
if someone proposed these people as characters in a movie, they'd be rejected as unrealistic.
a douchebag actually cautioning against having fun one summer -- rather than getting some intership that will just cause the people who interview you to laugh at your self-important naivete -- just isn't plausible. and yet . . .
Date: May 5th, 2008 8:14 PM Author: excitant forum
Yeah, as the guy said gpa+lsat. And I really doubt SA interviewers care that much about prior work experience. I know more trad 1Ls doing firm SA stuff than non-trads. Probably because non-trads are shit in interviews. And fat. And balding.
To clarify: better from a career standpoint. I doubt you're "jealous" of this guy in the typical sense, but you're also pretty misinformed about the dangers (lol) of wasting your summers if you're going to law school anyway.
i'm not going to law school, but I see you point IF you have hindsight. This guy should be hedging himself for a possible change in plans for business or IR or god forbid medicine/research. Saying youre pre-law as an underclassman is meaningless.
Date: May 5th, 2008 8:22 PM Author: Bonkers address
The jealous, pathetic losers in this thread trying to put the OP down for not working during an UG summer need to STFU. Once you get in LS it's plain that UG summers are meaningless. Having worked every summer of UG, I would trade all of the internships and shitty jobs to have one, genuinely good story to tell about a summer where I just did nothing but had loads of fun. My summers were awesome, but they could have been so much better if I knew that UG summer "work experience" (lol @ even calling it that) was completely worthless.
It shows that you were assertive and smart enough, or had the proper connections, to do something like that. That is more meaningful than the actual experience.
Date: May 5th, 2008 8:38 PM Author: Bonkers address
I guarantee this is all but meaningless in LS.
Edit: If you have the stats to get into a T-14, and you do nothing for your summers, you'll end up at the same place as the strivers (myself included) who busted their asses for four summers.
Date: May 5th, 2008 8:43 PM Author: Bonkers address
What part of "Once you get in LS it's plain that UG summers are meaningless" did you not understand? I'm talking specifically about LS.
OP also makes it clear his end goal is LS when he says "GPA/LSAT."
Obviously if you're looking to get a banking job straight out of UG, you need to work, because that is all you have, but you're the only one here bringing up banking.
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:09 PM Author: Bonkers address
OMIGOD THE CASE STUDY IS ABOUT HOW TO MOST EFFICIENTLY ORDER LUNCHES FOR EXECUTIVES AND FILE INVOICES!!! THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I DID LAST SUMMER!!! I'LL BE HIRED FOR SURE!!!!
Date: May 6th, 2008 12:34 AM Author: comical stage
Being motivated and driven is not bullshit. You can go into banking without interning, but you better have a really good relationship with HR and the management level of the office.
Date: May 5th, 2008 8:33 PM Author: Bonkers address
LoL yea. Or how about:
"Well, we were really blown away by the previous applicant who is in the top 5% of your class, but we decided to extend you the offer instead because, despite being at the median, your internship at the municipal courthouse in your home town really put you over the top."
Date: May 5th, 2008 11:21 PM Author: Bonkers address
LOL. My point was, regardless of my internships, no matter how prestigious, I would have ended up in the same place. But feel free to cling to your wasted summers spent in an office developing your "skill set." On a website full of strivers, your post ranks high in the Pantheon of truly pathetic attempts at justifying risk-averse, and ultimately useless, striver behavior.
I think the argument that you should get a meaningful job is downright stupid, but of all the places to brag about your summer, a law school board seems an odd place to do it. Our summers will consist of making $36k for 12 weeks of eating lunch and socializing.
Month one: Sit around and do jack. Lunch, sometimes dinner as well, at nice restaurants. Happy hour every day. Drunk 3-5 nights a week. Everything paid for.
Month two: Sit around and do jack. Lunch, sometimes dinner as well, at nice restaurants. Happy hour every day. Drunk 3-5 nights a week. Everything paid for.
Month three: Sit around and do jack. Lunch, sometimes dinner as well, at nice restaurants. Happy hour every day. Drunk 3-5 nights a week. Everything paid for.
Oh, by the way, I get $40,000 for these three months.
So no, I'm not jealous of your BIGSUMMERCAMP where I have to wake up at 8 every morning and clean up shit
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:20 PM Author: mildly autistic cyan hospital queen of the night
ROFL.
Fun, drinking, nice dinners and lunches, goofing off and $40,000 >>>>>> picking up shit and waking up at 8 every morning to play with kid in the wilderness.
Sorry that you're stuck in small law and have never been a BIGLAW SA. ROFL what bitterness.
it's not even necessarily about being an SA or making $$$. there are countless fellowships/other experiences which may not amount to much money, but certainly a more interesting story than being a camp counselor (not that it wouldn't be fun, like i originally mentioned).
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:25 PM Author: Blathering azn
As a UG, I would go for fun over interesting or prestigious. It's just really sad that xoxo posters can't remember what fun it was to be 21 and able to spend all summer "working" as a lifeguard or camp counselor. I think it's because they've never had experiences like these.
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:27 PM Author: mildly autistic cyan hospital queen of the night
It's just really sad that small law posters don't know what fun it is to eat and drink all summer "working" as a summer associate. I think it's because they've never had experiences like these.
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:33 PM Author: Blathering azn
It's sad that you look to your job to provide fun. Oh well I'm glad people like you who have no friends are able to enjoy a summer of forced social interaction.
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:37 PM Author: mildly autistic cyan hospital queen of the night
It's just really sad that small law posters can't even keep up with a regular argument.
Let me try to take it slowly for you Cooley grads. We're comparing between two things: OP's summer and SA. OP's summer is summer camp. It isn't "college life" at large. Stop changing the subject just because you know you're getting fucking pwned
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:42 PM Author: Blathering azn
Who cares if it's at a summer camp? The beauty of college is not having responsibility and having tons of free time to get fucked up with friends. Working at a summer camp provides even more free time and less responsibility than taking classes does, since your grades have some impact on your future.
You're touchy about this because you expect your summer of "fun" eating at restaurants with partners and fellow summers who you will soon grow to hate to make up for missing out on the fun summers that normal cool people experienced during college.
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:50 PM Author: mildly autistic cyan hospital queen of the night
How can you not? You spent the past 8 years of your life photocopying and making coffee for a self-practicing retard. At least in college nobody realized you're stupid.
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:51 PM Author: Blathering azn
What are you babbling about? Sorry you had no friends in college, bro. Glad you have a group of people who will be forced to hang out with you all summer. I hope you don't tire of your SA class after a week as I did.
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:53 PM Author: mildly autistic cyan hospital queen of the night
Again, sorry you have to work in small law and never was a summer associate, bro. Glad you had a good time in college 10 years ago. I wish you all the best as you continue making $40K a year and hanging onto your "college summer" for dear life.
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:46 PM Author: mildly autistic cyan hospital queen of the night
Dude, it's obvious to everyone that you're touchy about this because you spent the past 8 years of your life trying to use your "college" experience to justify the fact that you never experienced real SA life and have to work in small law. It's okay, nobody thinks you're retarded, retard.
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:23 PM Author: Blathering azn
I'm not in smallaw, idiot. I'm a 3L at a T14.
Here's the thing. Losers on xoxo have no friends and no one would voluntarily spend time with them, so they prefer making money and going out to dinner with assholes at their law firm to being freeto hang out with their friends all day. Xoxo losers think going to biglaw receptions is the same sort of fun that you have drinking with your friends all summer and having not a responsibility in the world, only because they've never had friends or a decent social life of their own.
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:28 PM Author: Blathering azn
Am I supposed to be shocked by the use of the word "nigger?" Sorry you never had any fun in college bro. Don't worry. Sitting in an office all summer and attending fancy dinners with fellow lawyer assholes is as fun as being in college.
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:30 PM Author: mildly autistic cyan hospital queen of the night
Sorry you never had a chance to be a summer associate bro. Don't worry. Photocopying and making coffee is as fun as getting paid to eat and drink all summer.
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:32 PM Author: Blathering azn
I don't think you photocopy at a summer camp. This is the difference between us: you expect your job to provide your fun and excitement for the summer but I'd rather be 21 again, have no reasponsibilities and able to spend all day sleeping in, smoking and drinking with college buddies.
If you would honestly rather be a law student than a college student, well, I pity your college experience.
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:39 PM Author: Blathering azn
Have you ever worked at a summer camp? There is plenty of time for sleeping, smoking and drinking. What did you do during your college summers? I bet you had serious jobs and "internships."
Date: May 5th, 2008 9:51 PM Author: mildly autistic cyan hospital queen of the night
ROFL, I really don't know why you're trying so hard. It's obvious that nobody on here agrees with your retarded trolling. Why are you so bitter about your current life? What's so bad about working in small law?
Date: May 7th, 2008 7:56 PM Author: Greedy fishy roommate
My summer > your summer. Why do you think this is your last summer of fun though? If you're studying for the LSAT this summer, I would imagine you're a junior. That means you have the entire summer after senior year to party before LS starts.